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  • Senate GOP Will Use Reconciliation in Attempt to Repeal Obamacare

    Now that the Supreme Court has ruled that Obamacare’s health insurance mandate is in fact a tax levied on those who do not purchase insurance, Senate Republicans will look to repeal the full law through the budget reconciliation process.

    Reconciliation was used to push Obamacare through the Senate in 2009. Generally reserved strictly for budget-related measures, it eliminates the possibility of a filibuster, meaning Republicans would only need 51 votes to repeal that portion of the law – or even the full law itself.

    Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) seemed open to that approach during a speech at The Heritage Foundation shortly after the Supreme Court handed down its decision. The court’s ruling “does present some options for us” to pursue more unconventional options for repeal, DeMint said. He mentioned reconciliation as a potential avenue.

    A senior Senate Republican aide involved in the repeal effort later confirmed to Scribe that the GOP will use the budget reconciliation process in an attempt to repeal the full law, not just the portion requiring all Americans purchase health insurance.

    While a repeal effort via reconciliation would only require a majority of senators to pass, Republicans will likely wait until next year to employ the tactic.

    Senate Republican Whip Jon Kyl (R-AZ) said he expects Republicans to use reconciliation in the repeal effort during the 113th Congress. Kyl is not running for reelection.

    Mike Franc, Heritage’s Vice President of Government Studies, explained the details of reconciliation’s applicability thusly:

    Now that the individual mandate has acquired the official constitutional status of a “tax”, there is no longer any doubt that the Congress, and more specifically the Senate, can repeal it pursuant to the simple majority vote threshold available under the Budget Act’s reconciliation process. Some Senate insiders were concerned that the reconciliation process would leave too much of Obamacare intact, including the individual mandate. But today’s decision, while alarming in so many other ways, dispels with that concern.

    The mandate is now a revenue provision. Therefore, it is germane and not subject to a Senate parliamentary point of order to strike it from a repeal bill. The Senate’s filibuster process that would require a supermajority of 60 Senate votes to approve repeal is now irrelevant.

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    83 Responses to Senate GOP Will Use Reconciliation in Attempt to Repeal Obamacare

    1. steve h says:

      So when the conservatives and Heritage railed against the use of reconiliation in 2010, i presume you meant the use of reconciliation by Democrats, since you seem to like when it's used for your cause. The only issue will be Obama's veto pen. Too bad Republicans don't work on jobs bills and instead keep wasting time with this. The House Republicans have done zero to helpt he economy or create jobs. ZERO.

      • Les M says:

        And the Democrats have done less than zero. Which means that they have hurt the economy. The congressional Dems had 2 years of control and they did nothing but hurt the economy. This includes Obamacare.

      • Doug says:

        The republican house is the only chamber of congress that has does anything! Has that budget coming in the senate? Oh wait…

      • bob says:

        all is fair in war, it was passed using reconcilitation, no reason why it shouldn't be repealed the same way, the precedent has been set

        also, republicans in the house have passed numerous jobs bills, the senate just sits on them because then the great one can attempt to run against a do nothing congress

        look before you leap (or in this case be informed before you bash)

        • Eli says:

          The article is wrong. The Democrats did NOT use reconciliation to pass Obamacare in the Senate. They instead got all sixty Democratic Senators on board and passed it 60-39 on December 24, 2009.

          This is a key point because 1) reconciliation can only be used to pass budget related items, but the Democrats would have a right even under reconciliation to force a vote on each item, one at a time, and ONLY budget related items. Therefore, purely regulatory items (i.e. an end to pre-existing condition exclusions) could not be repealed this way, and further there would be some that would be politically impossible to do (like the vote on reinstating the donut hole); and 2) reconciliation has a ten year sunset (that's why, for example, the Bush tax cuts were originally scheduled to expire ten years after they were passed.) Since the original law was not passed by reconciliation but any part that is repealed would be, the repeal would only last for ten years and then it would be back with full force.,

      • Joey says:

        Using reconciliation the way it was done in 2010 was improper, but as this article says, now that it is clearly a tax, the budget rules apply.

      • GradivusGraham says:

        Zero… except for the 40+ job-creating and economy-repairing bills the House Republicans passed but the Democrat-controlled Senate has refused to vote on, which you neglected to mention. Or did you forget about those? Please explain how exactly you think the House Republicans can do other than "zero" if every bill they pass is stopped by Senate Democrats who refuse to even vote on it?

      • APO_AE_09173 says:

        The house GOP has passed and sent forward no less that 18 bills for job stimulus. Harry Reid (D) Nevada has REFUSED to bring a single one to the floor of the Senate for a vote–who is obstructing?

        The Dems passed this godawful law through schenanigans why not take it out that way. Now that it is a Tax don't cha know.

        I am not saying it is the best thing to do but it is the right thing to do for the people and job creation.

      • DisgustedVoter says:

        You forget about the 26 bills that Dirt Harry Reid has stashed on his desk and refuses to bring to the floor of the Senate.

      • @bradcundiff says:

        poor Steve. It's becoming apparent to him that his party is going to have to support the largest tax increase in history in a down economy without the benefit of running against the court. Poor steve, the court just took away another demagogue argument. Remember the Tea Party in 2010? What was that about? It was about Obamacare, now declared a tax.

      • KJinAZ says:

        Steve you obviously failed government class. It is not the job of the government to provide jobs. Just like it is not the governments job to provide healthcare. The mess we are in now is because the government is doing things they are not supposed to. Every job created by the stimulus bill cost taxpayers $4 million, how smart was that?

      • Tim says:

        Where is your Democrat controlled Senate on passing a budget. That's right, they haven't passed one in two years. Once you can educate yourself on what is going on in this county, you come back and post. Otherwise ZIP IT!!

      • bill says:

        I disagree with this not affecting jobs. The ACA requires companies that employee over 50 people to provide health care. My friend had to fire 2 people today to get under 50 employees. One was going to get fired anyway but the other was an older lady that did clerical work. Now she can go get government health care but doesn't have a job.

      • William says:

        No, they're saying since YOUR side used it to CRAM it down our throats, they're now going to use it to SHOVE IT UP YOUR…

      • just a patriot says:

        We know now to fight fire with fire. Your problem?

      • PVG says:

        Zero and his lackey in the senate will not consider or bring the GOP bills to the floor for debate or a vote. For over 3 years the dems have not bought anything meaningful, like say a BUDGET to the floor for a vote. BO's budget was defeated 100-0. They are out of ideas which is why they keep recycling the same old class warfare, tax anything that moves.
        Live by the sword, die by the sword…BO's health tax deserves it!

      • keyesforpres says:

        Oh my, you really believe that Congress creates private sector jobs?
        You want a jobs bill? Repeal Obama-NO-care. Many businesses aren't hiring because of this.
        You do know that your medical records are going to be kept in DC and that a bureaucrat will decide if you can get medical care?

        Did you know that there will be a 1% tax on your gross income (on top of what you are already taxed) from this bill?

        Did you know that the gov't will have direct access to your bank account? Loved one over 75? No surgery for them! That what you want? Over half the doctors say they will quit if this isn't overturned.

        WAKE UP!

      • Vote Loud says:

        The MAJORITY of Americans were AGAINST Obamacare when proposed and passed, and are AGAINST IT NOW…

        But then, what does the desire of the MAJORITY mean to a crowd of Marxist?

      • Charles says:

        You don't get it, do you? Reconciliation is supposed to be used on budget matters. Former Speaker Pelosi, used it to get a "non tax" bill through the house and the Senate followed suit. Republicans will be fully justified to use reconciliation on a bill that the Supreme Court has ruled a tax., Pelosi was not justified in her actions.

      • Mimi B. says:

        Steve, just to bring you up to date in the last 2 years: The House passed job bills that are awaiting action in the Senate – more than 16! The House went through the process of introducing, committee hearings, passing committee, passing the House and NOW STUCK IN THE SENATE! The passed bills dealt with empowering small business owners, maximizing domestic energy production ( as opposed to private land already in production) and a BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2012. The SENATE has NOT considered a budget of its own in more than 18 months. I would say the HOUSE has done its homework. HOW ABOUT the SENATE? AND YOU??

      • Zorf says:

        If this abomination was passed by Reconciliation, it can be defeated by Reconciliation. I fail to see the contradiction. But then, not being a liberal, I have a functioning brain.

      • just sayin says:

        WEll, it's obvious that steve h is just here bloviating as he is factually deficient in his complaints that the House Republicans have done nothing. They are the only body that has done anything and all actions have died in the senate. 100-1 odds steve h is a marxist, progressive and a willing dupe with fervent socialist leanings and the belief that if you state a lie often enough, people will believe it to be true. Go back to your crib steve h and stop propagandizing!

      • Emmentaler Limburger says:

        Notably, Steve, the Demodrats used reconciliation to pass a law with not taxes – clearly not what reconciliation is intended for, hence the outrage. The Democrats used reconciliation to eliminate harmful discussion (remember: we famously were told we had to PASS it to see what in it – or have you forgotten that?) – discussion that would have created the outrage in the electorate tehy're experiencing since the time it passed.

        So, yes: you are correct – conservatives raled against the Democrats improper use of the reconciliation process to ram this upopular, ill-conceived, and, at that time, unfathomed legislation through Congress.

      • Salvatore A Apicelli says:

        Not true Steve. The last time I looked the house had passed at least thirty bills dealing with the economy and jobs including a balanced budget amendment.. None of these bills have even seen the light of day in the Senate because Harry Reid refuses to allow them to come to the floor. Please check your facts and if you find me wrong on this, please let me know.

      • Gunther says:

        NOW we are a tax liability to all of you…..My wife and I have always paid our medical bills in full at the time of treatment. *I* care about MY credit rating so I make sure to keep MY bills paid. We are ZERO liability on the state for medical purposes. Looking at the OboboCare numbers our insurance will run nearly $10,000 a year for the two of us and the TAX PAYERS will subsidize about $7500 of that from what I can tell. ObOzOcArE just turned a couple who WERENT costing the PEOPLE a single dime into a $7500 liabilty……GO OBAMA !!!

      • JCAT says:

        Justice Roberts was cleverly brilliant & not liberal in his ruling, he sent a gift of a platform to Romney & others, on a silver platter, by ruling the mandate a tax & in his opinion actaull stating he was not saying it was good law, but thereby left the final decision, repeal & replace, both the law & the President to the elected officials & the voters & in quoting said: "Those decisions are entrusted to our Nation’s elected leaders, who can be thrown out of office if the people disagree with them. It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices". In other words, the 29 taxes that go into place over the next 2 years, including those making way under $100,000….get what they voted for by voting for Obamacare.

      • @SlumLiberty says:

        Except that this would be a proper use of reconcilitation

    2. Nancy says:

      That's good news. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

    3. Cliff says:

      In 2010 the democrats were saying the individual mandate WASN'T a tax. The SC ruled today that it was.

      • ShadowMerlin says:

        And at the same time they showed us why Obama keeps his birth certificate hidden. He doesn't want anyone to find out that his real name is Pinocchio Hussein Obama!

    4. Gary says:

      GOP has no plans for replacing the ACA. So by repealing it will give people even more pressure to vote them out. There are too many good things in the ACA to repeal without replace. And what they going to replace it with Medicare for all, public option, single payer.

      • Conservative Wanderer says:

        News flash… polls all around the political spectrum (except perhaps those with only committed lefties in the sample) show that a majority of Americans want it repealed.

        So most people will applaud the GOP if/when they repeal it, and they're likely to punish the Democrats that passed it in the first place. If you thought 2010 was brutal to Democrats, wait till November.

        • Lyla Cavanaugh says:

          Naw. Nothing will happen in November since Obamacare won't be in until 2013 when people will be mad at the cost when forced by the IRS to pay extra money out, and for the less well off, get far less for their health care dollar than they expect under new restrictive guidelines!

      • janelasdedeus says:

        Romney has already specified that parts of Obamacare that he supports… and non-coincidentally, these are the same ones supported by the majority of the American people.

      • Dyreka says:

        What do you mean they have no plans for replacing it? Republicans have been pushing for common sense healthcare reforms forever! Just because they don't have a 2,000 plus page bill to replace it with doesn't mean there aren't plans and ideas in place to fix what's wrong with the healthcare system. Most Republicans, when asked instead of having words put in their mouths, will say that they support actions like tort reform, incentivizing medical school to increase supply, deregulating where appropriate to free up the market (especially interstate health insurance restrictions), and regulating where appropriate (like big pharma lobbying) etc.. This is not something that can be fixed by brute government force. It is a delicate economic balance that has to be understood and healed in the places where it's diseased.

      • malcolm says:

        Enjoy paying higher taxes and receiving rationed health care.

      • guest says:

        Read the polls; same as in 2012, massive opposition to Obamacare. It's what gave republicans control of the House in 2010 and will hive them control of the Senate and presidency in 2012.

    5. Traveler says:

      Good chance Obama just sealed his fate as a one-termer. I wouldn't dignifiy it by calling him a President. Ok smart guy- you wanted a fight? Hold on tight – here it comes.

    6. Rich says:

      So Obama lied (again) when stating that the mandate was NOT A TAX on the American people. I feel a bit consoled with the SC's ruling that IT IS A TAX and is once again proof that in the eyes of the law, and the highest court in the land, that Obama lied to the American people by stating it was not. This alone warrents immediate repeal since the American people were sold a "bill" of goods.

      • Jeff Adler says:

        What I find so very very funny about a post like this is, that the poster is not aware, or ignores, that the conservative members of the SC ruled that it was NOT a tax.

        So, we now have Romeny and 4 conservative judges all stating that they think it is NOT a tax, but posters like this now want to ignore the views of their own leaders.

        Too funny!

    7. janelasdedeus says:

      Live by the sword, die by the sword. I just hope we get HD videos of Harry Reid's face when this goes down.

    8. steve h says:

      Really Les, did nothing? Stimulus Act was nothing? I know the right wing tells you it failed, but look at the numbers and decide for yourself. The economy was losing 750,000 jobs a month before and after it started to gain about 200,000 jobs a month. A swing of about 1 million jobs a month. GDP declined 8% in the last quarter of 08 and since stimulus passed, it has increased between 2 and 3%. The DOW has doubled since stimulus passed. And yet you say they did nothing? I'm amazed at how so many (not all) conservatives refuse to look at the numbers and decide for themselves instead they just repeat what they are told. The Dem congress was most productive one in decades – maybe ever. The GOP House has literally passed ZERO legislation of impact except the BCA which they are now trying to undo.

      • Bobbie says:

        oh, okay steve. Did nothing that didn't cost us inefficient work at trillions of dollars or anything we couldn't do better without him collecting America's cash. What jobs are you talking about that didn't already exist but now added government "green" in the description? recycling energy green. The dow is paid by government, it can say anything government wants it to. Most conservatives are living the consequences of Obama's presidency that you won't bring yourself to consider, accept or understand. Narrow thinking epidemic. Or you're one of the antiAmericans. Dems have been nothing and continue to be nothing but poison, steve.

        Maybe you don't have the self respect to hold a person at a level of honor and dignity this country commonly sees in her people and the roles in American government that this man and his established are without! Sad you support blatant lies. Sad you support abuse! Sad you don't respect freedom and enjoy it taken away from everyone else. This isn't a game, steve h. It's a rape!

      • di4independents says:

        That's right, Steve, and your precious stimulus also funded Fast & Furious to the tune of $40 million. Bush stopped his failed gun-running op, but Obama funded his with our taxes. No one in their right mind would give this president any more money than they already have. He is incompetent, childish, and a disgrace to his office. The senate denies the republicans the right to vote, much like they did to pass healthcare. The political will has changed. The only zero-club belongs to the dems.

    9. steve h says:

      Hehe Grad……maybe if the House GOP passed real job creating bills instead of passing repeal of health reform 40 times and calling it job creating bills. It's silly. They pass bills to cut regulation and call them job creating bills. All the House does is pass messaging bills for the election knowing full well they can't pass Congress. Why not negotiate and try to pass something real insteadof wasting the two years of the do-nothing house.

      • George Washington says:

        Hey stevie – we’ll see about that in November, and you are crazy if you really think we are walking away from this. How about a revolution,slick?

      • George Patton says:

        Stevie – think again if you think we are gonna walk away from this – BHO wants a fight, he will get it.

    10. peter says:

      Yet Republicans could only come up with Romney as their pick for presidential candidate. REALLY? This guy has to be the phoniest, most two-faced politician we've seen in years. Even the right didn't want him but because he bought and paid for the primaries, he's now being shoved down their "anyone-but-Obama" throats. The insult to the injury is Obamacare was modeled after his own Massachusetts plan.

      • Jerry says:

        Most 2-faced politician? You forgot about Obama.

      • saveamerica says:

        And all dems could come up with is Obama?

      • Janice says:

        Mitt Romney is on record for saying his health care plan was never meant to be scaled. Yes scaled.
        The "El stupido" demo bandits obviously can't read, thus Pelosi's comment "we have to pass it to find out what's in it".

      • James Green says:

        I know Mitt personally and he as fine a man as ever walked the earth. He is moral, hardworking, honest, brilliant, and very presidential. Our country needs him like never before. Obama has run us right to the edge of the precipice and if he is re-elected will take us over the edge. If you value your freedom and the prospect of having a job or even a republic left, you'd better be rethinking your position.

    11. Paul says:

      As Chief Justice Robert's opined, "It is not our duty to protect the people from the consequences of their political choice". It clearly means that when you vote in a complete inexperienced dufus like Obama we are all stuck with the results…and we can correct that in 2012'

    12. Big Al says:

      Lets see, how much ideological angst did the Democrats have about employing this tactic in the first place? It is time that the conservative side apply wisdom and courage along with their desire to just be "nice guys". The folks behind Obamacare are not "nice guys" that is for certain. This country will continue down the road to ruin until people in general gen up the courage to say "enough" and begin fighting for what this country stands for and what it was built on.

      In short, I think the reconciliation process has a delicious irony to it.

    13. @Mrwirez says:

      "Romney Care" proved to be a great model for "Obama Care", even the Supreme Court approves of it. Romney was FOR Health Care Mandates, before he was AGAINST them… Sound familiar? I see a new "Swift boat" ad coming

      • JCAT says:

        Romney's healthcare bill was state law not federal, two totally different arenas, it passed not as a tax, but under the laws of the Constitution of the State of Massachusetts, plus the people of Massachusetts wanted it & at the time they had low employment of approximately 4% from where most of the people of Massachusetts received their insurance. The Obamacare law is a tax & national unemployment is 9% with under-employment over 20%….which will rise with the implementation of Obamacare….flatly no one can afford Obamacare, including a nation on the brink of financial disaster.

    14. Why would the Heritage Foundation want to repeal a bill they wrote?

      • steve h says:

        They wrote it for a Republican. When Dems want to use their plans, then it's terrible idea. Look back all the Heritage pieces calling for an individual mandate in MA, and now they oppose. Hehe…

        • Bryan P says:

          The Republicans who proposed the mandate in the 1970s have long abandoned that policy (about 30 years ago). Many of them are even dead. What happens when liberals can't "move on"?

          • Guest says:

            Move on? 30 years ago?? The Heritage Foundation wrote in 1993 (including the Individual Mandate) what ultimately became RomneyCare in 2006 under the directive of Republican senators in the early 1990's. Republican Congressmen (and women) supported the bill then and it was even seen as a possible Republican counter to the Clinton's efforts to reform healthcare, and even as late as early 2009–before Obama formally co-opted RomneyCare (nearly line-by-line identical to what is in Obamacare). The Republican opposition is so juvenile, instead of getting something constructive done for our country, they insist on caving to the demands of the health insurance lobby (who don't want to lose their power and massive profits at the expense of American's health and health care.) How brilliant of Obama to seize upon an effective Republican idea, although Obama probably did it out of his naivete that he was putting America ahead of party. And course we can never count on Republicans to act like adults. RomneyCare = ObamaCare! Obama2012!

    15. Blair Franconia, NH says:

      That's how Obamacare was passed in the first place. Wasn't it, Comrades?

    16. Two separate issues: 1) abusive taxation across the board and this is just one example of bloated government; 2) taking away the freedom of choice by forcing everyone into the same medical system and federal government "managing" healthcare options. Until the medical system in this country (including physicians, hospitals, pharmaceutical industry and all big medical business) is completely overhauled to integrate alternative medicine, we are on a crash course to bankrupting healthcare with expensive and often unnecessary or even downright dangerous drugs & surgery. Because of poor lifestyle habits and environmental pollution, millions of Americans are developing disease that is not natural. First you make people sick, then kill them with a medical system designed to alleviate symptoms rather than deal with the cause. Obamacare funds medical big business. Change or reap the consequences.

    17. deadelvis666 says:

      I wonder how hard it would be get four squishy democrat senators who are terrified for their jobs to go along with this? If the GOP is serious about this they should ask these five if they really want to campaign on the largest tax hike in history. If the GOP would grow a pair this monstrosity could be gone by August.

    18. Tonie says:

      reconciliation is for cowards who do not believe obama's mess needs to be put in the trash/taken to the dump and burned out of existence/never to see the light of day again. It belongs in th fires of hell.

    19. Mark says:

      If reconciliation helps in the end to get rid of Obamacare tax, it would be nice. But I no longer trust the process. We all have seen how Democrats came up with all kinds of tricks to scam the process in "passing" Obamacare. If they are capable of "passing", they might be capable of "blocking". They have no honor or integrity. They are shameless. They seem to be capable of ANYTHING. If they like it, they deem it passed. If they do not like it, they deem it blocked

    20. Gatspy says:

      I have been looking closer at ObamaCare now that it passed the Supreme Court hurtle, which to be honest I was Floored when I heard what Chief Justice Roberts did. Now that it is a Tax, it is somewhat ironic that the first progressive President Wilson signed the Income Tax into law, which was only to be for the rich now look at its reach. Progressive President FDR signed Social Security into law, which is going bankrupt. President Johnson's progressive "Great Society" Medicare and Medicaid, which is also going bankrupt. And now ObamaCare the largest tax increase in the history of the United States. Obama is not interested in growing the American pie so that economic inequality does not really matter. Obama's policies are out to shrink the American pie and give everyone the same small slice of it. Obama is Killing our Country. He is the worst thing to ever happen to America.

    21. @BlueDem1 says:

      No, they cannot repeal the entire law with a simple majority. There were two (2) bills that were passed: one was the Affordable Care Act, which was passed by the Senate in 12/2009 by a 60-39 vote and by the House in 03/2010 by a 219-212 vote, was NOT a reconciliation measure. The second bill, The Health Care Education & Reconciliation Act was a reconciliation measure which passed both the House and Senate in 03/2010.__Only the reconciliation measure can be repealed using the same method of simple majority. The ACA is the law which prohibits insurance companies from cancelling people's coverage after they become sick, denying children with pre-existing conditions coverage, and assesses a tax penalty to Americans who can afford to buy health insurance but choose not to do so. Those basic provisions cannot be repealed without 60 votes in the Senate.__Health Care Reform is the law of the land. Instead of fighting to repeal the entire law, let's work to IMPROVE the existing law. Adding tort reform and allowing people to buy insurance coverage across interstate lines would be a great start, and there are many Democrats in Congress who support those proposals.

      • stephen says:

        Excellent post. I really hope you are right because this law is a good starting place. Health Care should be a right for every citizen of this great country.

    22. Gravelyvoice Jim says:

      From Article 1, Section 7 of the U.S. Constitution:

      "All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills."

      Rewind to late 2009 when Both the House AND the Senate had separate bills that were never merged. Pelosi ram-rodded the Senate bill through the House to give us what eventually became Obama Care. This bill originated in the SENATE. Now that it has been declared to contain a TAX to raise revenue, is an Article 1 Section 7 challenge in order?

    23. Gravelyvoice Jim says:

      From Article 1, Section 7 of the U.S. Constitution:

      "All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills."

      Flash back to late 2009 when there were two separate healthcare bills – on in the House and one in the Senate. Since the bills couldn't be merged after the Scott Brown election, Pelosi took the Senate bill and rammed it through the House, eventually giving us "Obama Care"..

      Now that the court has declared the bill to contain a tax, is an Article 1, Section 7 challenge in order since this revenue raising bill originated in the Senate?

    24. okey dokey says:

      only one thing missing in this article.

      the Presidents signature.

    25. Dave says:

      Robers tried to give both sides something instead of just ruling on whether this was constitutional. He tells us the bill is unconstitutional as passed and then rules it constitutional because it "could have" been written as a tax. Then some silly blathering about the court not being there to protect taxpayers from themselves. Oh Really? How many times has the court ruled that this or that Prop# passed by the electorate was unconstitutional?

      If you really believe that Justice Roberts, why didn't you send it back to the electorate to vote on as a tax, instead of allowing the lying politicians to pass it as something else. You've effectively made it good political strategy to lie to the public about what they are voting on.

    26. Jeff says:

      For those who appose the new laws……….
      Which one of you wants to be the one to tell me I cannot buy health insurance? I am disabled but it takes years for Social Security to approve disability. Meanwhile I am living off my IRA which demands a 10% penalty because I am only 56. I've had zero income for 15 months while waiting for Social Security to get their jobs done. I had 3 operations that saved my life but left me with complications that makes it impossible to hold a job. Unfortunately the new laws that allow me to buy health insurance don't go into affect until 2014. Now I have to sell my house in a depressed market and move in with my son until my disability starts up. I worked hard my entire life only to wind up disabled. Now when I need some of that money I paid in all those years, the system is failing me. Do you really want to take away my right to buy health insurance on top of all this? I'm not alone. A lot of people who don't have health insurance are disabled and would buy insurance if the insurance companies would sell it to us. I will gladly pay for health insurance that covers my condition. Why deny me that right?

      • Bobbie says:

        Nobody denies you the right to purchase insurance. It's always been available. We all have problems, don't we Jeff? The cost of government and their unconstitutional intrusions surrounds all problems we have. The social security is abused by those in control of it, government! Why would you trust any program controlled by government and today with no accountability? Where the work ethic is unethical? Where salaries on the democratic side are unwarranted and without merit?

    27. Please tell me there are still rational people among the ranks of conservatives. Obamacare is a Republican health care plan laid out and once endorsed by the Heritage Foundation. Stop ripping this country apart with your blinded ideologies. Please.

    28. steve h says:

      The can attempt all they want, but it won't happen. Repeal would increase the deficit and after the Repubs used reconciliation for passing the deficit increasing 01 and 03 tax cuts, there is rule in place to forbid using reconciliation for deficit increasing measures, like repealing Obamacare. Sorry, just suck it up and move on.

    29. Republicans are so pathetic. They want their kickbacks from the special interest health insurance cartel so bad they could care less if instantly over 30 million people aren't able to attain access to medical care. It's one thing they haven't thought about. If they do use this tactic who will sign it? When President Obama get re-elected this will blow up right in their pathetic right-wing faces.

    30. kenneth Green says:

      What people need to understand and also write their Congressmen is that Obamacare originated in the Senate. Congress has sole authority to raise revenue (tax), not the Senate. Since the Supreme Court has said it is a tax, Obamacare is unconstitutional. It is invalid. People let's get letters going to our Congressmen.

    31. Crown City Voice says:

      From The New Yorker… "… reconciliation wouldn’t work here—the process can only be used for policies that have budgetary effects and a C.B.O. score. Much of the A.C.A., such as the insurance exchanges and subsidies, would fall under these categories. But a lot of it, including the hated individual mandate, does not. Repealing the exchanges and subsides without repealing the mandate and the other regulations and cost controls in the law would create a health-care Frankenstein that a President Romney would be rather nuts to support."
      All of you out there with preexisting conditions of hereditary disease, teetering on the edge of financial ruin, no need to worry… just 14 months to go my friends.

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