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  • Progressives: Caught in Their Own 'Living Document' Trap

    We know that “progressives” favor what they call “living constitutions,” governing documents that change easily to accommodate the changing tastes of voters. Sometimes they rely on judges to “breathe life” into the Constitution, as the Supreme Court did in 1965’s famous Griswold v. Connecticut.

    But some also seem to be rooting for dead constitutions. On Thursday, an NPR interviewer had an interesting idea: “I have to say that when I talk to friends across the country, they look at this system in California and they say: well, why don’t they just throw out this [state] constitution that requires voters to approve everything that they do?” Jeremy Hobson asked Governor Jerry Brown (D).

    But Brown seemed to realize he’s stuck living under the document that’s been “perfected” by his progressive predecessors.

    “Why don’t we just throw out this constitution?” Brown answered. “They’ve done that in a number of countries, it’s called a coup d’état. Look, this is a democracy, you can find fault with it but compared to the paralysis in Washington, at least we have an ultimate arbiter, which are the people themselves.”

    Brown and his fellow progressives are being hobbled by the very system they designed. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

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    19 Responses to Progressives: Caught in Their Own 'Living Document' Trap

    1. Stirling says:

      Mr. Brown would see a mass exodus of the people from his state if they actually took away the constitution. Progressive policies destroy economies, and the examples are many (California, Detroit, Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy, etc). The fact that they can't see the fiscal destruction in front of their faces is unbelivable.

    2. junkbin says:

      the will of the people is subverted by the liberal political agenda OF ITS JUDGES. twice no gay marriage has been passed by the people and judges have overturned it.. Second time, an amendment was passed. Gay judge with squeeze tossed it… Once something is part of the constitution, it can only be removed by the people, not commie politicians or judges, except in California of course

    3. Tim M says:

      Governor Moonbeem is the one the voters should throw out along with the California legislature who continue to tax and spend, tax and spend. Their solution to a 16 Billion Dollar deficit? You guessed it, Tax and Spend, Tax and Spend some more, until there are no business or people left in California to tax.

    4. madgorilla says:

      Ain't it great? Facts are inconvenient things, aren't they, Governor Moonbeam?

    5. Bobbie says:

      How about all idiots who've taken control in government positions, learn the peoples' constitution and respect the people and the constitution? Like those in government positions are expected to already and for those that just doesn't feel they should make the effort, humble by impeachment or criminal arrests!

    6. Madman says:

      Hell between Obama passing every thing around congress and congress looking the other way we don't have a Constutition any more. If you think some one is going to protect you better thing again.

    7. MidnightDStroyer says:

      Regardless of what they try to tell us, these politicians ARE under a lawfully binding Oath of Office to uphold the US Constitution…And State Officials are equally bound by both State AND United States Constitutions (look in Article 6). These Constitutions stand as lawfully-enforced "contracts of employment," with We the People as their employers.

      If they want to change the US Constitution, they tend to ignore it instead of exercising the lawfully-proscribed Article 5 Amendment Ratification process…Yes, indeed, it IS a "living Constitution," but they'd rather ignore the work it takes to make it grow & evolve. But ignoring the Constitution (contract of employment) also carries the specifies of penalties to include removal from Office (they're fired from the job) & are subject to charges under indictment according to the Due Process of Law (which is something else they ignore all too readily).

      After all is said & done, the answer itself is contained within the Constitution itself! The answer to their CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR is to fire them & have them arrested to stand trial under a Grand Jury.

    8. MidnightDStroyer says:

      Regardless of what they try to tell us, these politicians ARE under a lawfully binding Oath of Office to uphold the US Constitution…And State Officials are equally bound by both State AND United States Constitutions (look in Article 6). These Constitutions stand as lawfully-enforced "contracts of employment," with We the People as their employers.

      If they want to change the US Constitution, they tend to ignore it instead of exercising the lawfully-proscribed Article 5 Amendment Ratification process…Yes, indeed, it IS a "living Constitution," but they'd rather ignore the work it takes to make it grow & evolve. But ignoring the Constitution (contract of employment) also carries the specifies of penalties to include removal from Office (they're fired from the job) & are subject to charges under indictment according to the Due Process of Law (which is something else they ignore all too readily).

      After all is said & done, the answer is contained within the Constitution itself! The answer to their CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR is to fire them & have them arrested to stand trial under a Grand Jury.

    9. Rick Glackin says:

      Just one more example of the 'unintended consequences' of the liberal left. It's much like lies, once you tell enough of them they start catching up to you.

      How painful the lesson is going to be once we finally learn the hard way that our founding fathers had it exactly right.

      Congress has been stepping all over the Constitution for decades…because we let them get away with it.
      Congress stole the huge Social Security fund…because we let them get away with it.
      Our children did not learn about our heritage of freedom…because we didn't teach them our history.
      Socialism has taken over much of our country…because we did not instill in our children the fundamental values held dear by our founding fathers. Those men who learned from their European experience that a pure democracy cannot stand. Those men who determined that only our form of government (a constitutional republic) is the only good and, in fact, the best form of government.

      I pray I live long enough to see our country return to it's founding principles.

    10. Blair Franconia, NH says:

      Since the Constitution can be amended, it is a living document, of sorts.

    11. arline gordon says:

      we must bring this to all who believe in our constitution that the left would do anythng to change america to the ways of europe.and i say over my deadbody.

    12. Ron says:

      The only thing that the idea of the Constitution being a living document has ever meant to me is that it would NOT be a document that can be relied upon. What's here today is gone tomorrow without warning. The founders were brilliant men. Today, we cannot find such men. They clearly said what they meant to say. And they meant what they said.

    13. Greg B. says:

      To a democrat, the Constitution says what ever they say it says, not what it actually does say.

    14. Jeanne Stotler says:

      We do not live in a democracy, this is a Republic, designed as a Government OF THE PEOPLE< BY THE PEOPLE, some where along the line we have had infiltrators, who deemed that they were better qualified to make this a Goverment that rules the people, ignores their wishes and goes to many lengths to make sure we don't get heard. We seen voter fraud, intimidaton and other means in force, to change the outcome of local and Federal elections in their favor. We need to make sure that we turn this back to being a Republic and a true "Goverment of the People, for the People"

    15. okiejim says:

      Just because something doesn't work for progressives they want to throw it out and create anarchy? Makes sense to me. And, if the voters approve everything that happens in California, they deserve what they have, including the Governor.

    16. Sanford Olnhausen says:

      This is the 2nd 'go around" for governor Brown. Why should California change what is already perfect?

      S L Olnhausen

    17. Ron Marlar says:

      Serves Brown, et al, right. They made the bed, now must lie in it and lie they do like all good Dem Libs/Progs – since Liberal became such a dirty word.

    18. Cogito says:

      How many times do we have to tell these people it’s a republic, not a democracy?
      See: Article 4, Section 4. of the Constitution of the United States of America.
      But silly me; they don’t read it. They certainly don’t uphold it even though they must swear an oath to do so, in order to hold office. Article 6, Section 3.
      Ask them for a copy of the oath that they signed. Use the Freedom of Information Act, or your state’s Open Records Act. You’d be surprised how many of them haven’t taken the oath.
      Could that mean that they are breaking the law? If they didn’t take the oath, is anything that they did legal, or lawful? Seems like any act they were a part of, is null and void from it’s beginning. (Ab initio)

    19. Mike says:

      "…..at least we have an ultimate arbiter, which are the people themselves." Not! The librals on the bench strike down legislation they don't like. Time to let California collapse under the weight of its crushing debt burden!

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