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  • Verizon Strike Update: Judge Prohibits Union From Throwing Feces

    A New Jersey Superior Court issued an injunction against a local chapter of the International Brotherhood of Electrical workers, which is one of the two unions currently on strike against Verizon Communications, and represents about 10,000 of the 45,000 striking employees.

    The injunction prohibits a range of activities, some of which have reportedly been employed by various union picketers in efforts to obstruct or harass the company or its workers since the strike began more than a week ago.

    Among the practices specifically forbidden under the court’s ruling: the throwing of feces. That the judge felt the need to explicitly include that “tactic” speaks to the ugliness of the protests so far.

    No vandalism.  No violence.  No Harassment.  No Obstruction.  No intimidating.  No threatening.  No Blocking.  No Trespassing.  Those were just a few of the restrictions placed on members of the local 827 IBEW bargaining unit,  their dependents, minors, households and relatives in an injunction signed by NJ Superior Court Justice Mary Beth Rogers last week.

    Rogers also set restrictions on picketing, allowing no more than six picketers at the entrance to any Verizon owned property at any one time.   Picketers were also advise that no more than two picketers may picket a private residence of a Verizon employee and must stay more than 10 feet away from any Verizon individuals performing work on a private residence or business.    Rogers’ decision also specified picketers may not have animals present or block any ingress or egress to prohibit movement of a Verizon contractor vehicle.

    Striking workers have also been barred from entering inside of any Verizon properties unless they are performing their duties as Verizon employees under the direction of Verizon.    Rules were also set for recording, video taping or photographing any individual at any Verizon or performing company.

    Ironically, section J is one that would normally go without saying, yet is clearly stated:

    “Dropping, spreading, throwing, placing or otherwise causing nails, glass, cinder  block, spikes, feces, clubs, rocks, screws, or puncture devices of any kind, or other object or debris to be thrown or strewn in, on, or about Verizon’s driveways, parking lots, entrances, exits, vehicles and adjoining roads to any of Verizon’s property or  at any work site.”

    The order took effect immediately after its filing on August 11th.  IBEW 827 agreed to the proposal and posted a $50,000 bond for payment of incurred future damages.

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    61 Responses to Verizon Strike Update: Judge Prohibits Union From Throwing Feces

    1. Bobbie says:

      wow! look where Americans have fallen! Everything spelt out as union employees exploit lost sense of common decency. Defining restrictions only gives these types initiative to find other ways.

    2. TheWaynester says:

      This is why I would NEVER belong to a union and choose to live in a right-to-wok state.

      • Telco Bob says:

        Hey genius,you probably have never had your company try to take away your medical ,down grade your pension when they had record profits or try to get rid of older workers so they could hire part-time workers with no benefits,we have with the other phone company, the union protects our rights,and fights for us and i,ll gladly strike to keep jobs for familys.I hope your right-to-wok state teaches you people to use spell check!

        • Entitled says:

          Teclo Bob – lets see are they really trying to take away your medical? No they want you to chip in like the other 125,000 Verizon union members do already. So contribute your $100 per month they are asking for. You are so entitled and everything wrong with america. I hope Mccadam fires all you, that are working in a declining business.

          Sorry the record profits are a lie, at least on the landline side.

        • cmc166 says:

          I have worked for a union in the telecom industry. Worked hard – promoted into management… You are wrong about your perspective on medical and pension. Really the only people left getting pensions and decent medical benefits without paying into them are union workers and the pay is really not much different then middle management when you are there several years. Everyone in this economy is suffering with high medical costs and the inability to retire due to the terrible state of our 401k's and the companies are taking a big hit as well. I don't understand why union workers don't get this. I believe the unions were very necessary at one time, but now they are just being unreasonable and choose not to pay attention to what is going on in the real world!

        • alanwillingham says:

          Why do you feel the need for someone to make your buying decisions for you? What is it about opening and running a business that makes you want that person to select your insurance and set up your savings account instead of doing it yourself?

        • UNIONS SUCK says:

          You know what we go through it every year. We have to pay more for a down graded health insurance. Pension, those were gone years ago. I worked in the telco and for Verizon and you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. This is not what the union is about. The employees called into to work are being harassed and even in some cases feared for their life due to the UNION. This is a argument you need to take to VZ execs not the people told to report to duty somewhere.

      • Brett says:

        I'll make sure no one takes away your low-mein

      • union guest says:

        ok, that's why u make a 1/10 of what a union worker makes! Plus, u can/will be let go without cause!

        • Jason says:

          Actually, if he has a job, in this economy, that's because he is actually skilled and is paid based on his talents and what he brings to the company, not what some politician mandated his company must do for his croonies.

    3. Agenda Driven says:

      Are there any actual reports of Union members using feces during their pickets? Makes for a great headline for those with an agenda though.

      • rNOT says:

        Yes, there has been actual documentation of this (and first hand knowledge), including an air horn blown into a persons ear, causing physical damage. It's ugly, but isn't that what they're trying to do, intimidate, harass, obstruct, and demoralize the management staff? Basically, everything illegal. What is important to remember, this is a small "rouge" of people doing this. The vast majority of strikers are doing things legally. They should not be blamed as a whole, which we know is hard to do. This is unfortunate for everyone. Both have compelling arguments (Union: Sustaining what they already have; Management: Cannot sustain these benefits on a market that's shrinking.) What I do know, it's hurting everyone involved, strikers (not getting paid and potentially losing their benefits if this goes on longer) and management (who has had to travel across the country leaving their families) to support customers. Both parties are making great sacrifices and I hope they realize that there has to be some concessions on both sides to reach a compromise. Right now, they're just acting like our government.

    4. Matt says:

      Don't believe everything you read!just because verizon claims something happened doesn't mean it really did.verizon has a huge propaganda machine in place and things like these are introduced by them to influence public opinion! there are service outages every day even when there isn't a strike yet now every large outage is supposed to be vandalism? It's just as likely the unskilled,untrained management employees causing these problems.Don't be naive!

      • FrOsTbYtE says:

        We just received reports of union members that have been prosecuted for sabotaging a Verizon facility in Virginia. That is a fact!

    5. erik says:

      that why you're on welfare and collecting food stamps you welfare queen thewaynester

    6. GetReal says:

      that is all class! I always thought the majority of Verizon union employees were garbage… this just proves it. No wonder Verizon is taking the hard line with you. Who would want someone like this back in the workforce representing the company? And from the rumors abounding, good advice would be to rethink your tactics…if you do settle…and i do not think you will… i dont believe amnesty for being an idiot will be included in this contract.
      oh.. and if you are worth your contract you should have no problem getting a better job! Ba ha ha ha ha ha~!

      • YOU GET REAL says:

        Thats very rude and very offensive to classify ALL Verizon union employees. It proves nothing! There are honest people out there fighting for their jobs right now for the sake of their families and their children. Its ignorants like you that make you no better than anyone else!

    7. MRM says:

      Class and decency certainly cannot be bought, can they? The fact that this judge had to spell out this order in such detail speaks volumes on the type of people involved in this strike!

    8. Guest says:

      They get what they want…to cause Verizon loss customers, but then they bite themselves in the butt by acting like idiots, losing lots of sympathy in the process. They win, but they lose more.

    9. Highland444 says:

      Note how they're all wearing their Soviet red T-shirts. You go, comrades!

    10. Annakin says:

      I do not agree with judge retricting a person right to picket-Everyone has the right inn most states labor laws-he usurped his judical powers-I do, however, agree with most of the defined restrictions. The Union should appeal the obstruction of their rights.

    11. Cathy says:

      This is a few bad people out of thousands of union employees at Verizon. You will always have your handful of "bad" people

    12. Luscombe Flyer says:

      Has anyone ever seen a violent mob of striking right wingers? Has anyone ever witnessed feces flinging (or rocks or anything else) at a TEA Party rally? Has anyone ever had to get an injunction against violence by the 9-12 Project? Has anyone ever seen a rampaging right-wing riot (just the thought of it seems absurd)?

      I didn't think so.

    13. Frank Connelly says:

      During the Strike against Verizon in August of 2000, During a rally outside Verizon Corporate Headquarters at 1095 Avenue of the Americas; unknown management employees gained access to the the roof. From that location, they dumped huge amounts of accumulated bird droppings. They did not hit Verizon Strikers with the droppings. They hit Officers of the New York City Police Department who were stationed alongside the building to Protect them …. So much for the rectitude of these "Management Employees"

      • Jason says:

        That anacdote totally proves your case. A couple idiots did something stupid in 2000, so all 150,000 non-union VZ employees are evil.

    14. mhelmer says:

      If not for unions mexico would have all our jobs due to corporate greed and overly compensated puppet ceo's. Most non union workers deep down would love to have the benefits of a collective group to keep these greedy corporate heathens from continually rapeing the the american worker.

      • Lakis Velotris says:

        Arthur Cheliotis of the Commie Workers Arc wants to force Verizon into his lazy soviet Greek religion! Athens Archbishop Christodoulos said we deserved 9/11 (ISBN 960-252-007-8). On the Thursday before Easter Greeks chant pogrom inciting Beatitudes against "godslaying lawless Jews"in Greek, but change it to "Assemby of Jews" in English. They removed American Archbishop Iakovos because he was too American and Jerusalem Patriarch Irineos because he was too friendly with Israelis. Old witches who used to work at diners until they dropped now slip "Elder Protocols" and other terror claptrap in the pews. When I was growing up priests, would bathe, shave, wear pants – Robed, bearded, stovetopped priest is terror sympathist by definition. Greece was only euronation not to vote for 1947 Israel creation. In such time of war, we should insist that any public assembly of more than ten mandatorily be only in English! These heathen necromantic iconolaters have the nerve to ban Psalm 150 organs? If the Greek government did an Enron with its own books, and Greeks Trojan Horse their Greek taxes, what makes you think they pay the IRS? They go to Greece annually to tend their undisclosed accounts on soviet Cyprus. Notice the soviet spy money laundered Metsos disappeared with Cyprus complicity? Did Illinois Giannoulias, Florida's Crist, California's Angelides and New York's Gianaris apply Greek budgeting techniques like Sarbanes Oxen? Greek Ponzi fourfold Eurodefecit boasts Trojan Horse Perfidy, Klephth Brigandage. Upset that industrious Albanians invaded their lazy, gungrabbing, babykilling homeland, the soviet-churched Greeks vindictively hire, house and promote illegals. As quakes render their homes disposable, Greeks are oblivious to the very concept of maintenance. Instead of blaming environmetalists for fires and socialists for deficits, jealousy driven soviet faith seeks scapegoats. Olympia Snowjob supports Obamacare and abortion because of her gangreen patriarch (Is Orthodox Christianity progressive? Michelle Boorstein Washington Post 11-4-09 Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew spoke about the spiritual imperative for nonviolence, universal health care and reducing consumption to help the environment.) Ancient Greeks reduced consumption to help the environment through infanticide and sodomy. Palamite Zealotes massacred Thessalonian aristocracy in preparation for Cantacuzene usurpation via hesychast hyperventilatory hallucination. This soviet socialism motivated Anatolian farmers to embrace Turks in the 1400s to avoid redistributative taxation and then for liberated mainlanders to migrate to Smyrna in the 1800s.

    15. Solidarity says:

      Remember all you union critics, unions forced companies to provide an 8 hr work day, weekends off, paid vacation, child labor laws, safety standards (OSHA) overtime pay, etc. that we ALL enjoy today. Just read some history about the working conditions during the industrial revolution. Instead of bitching about unions who are backbone of the middle glass, focus your attention on the CEO's making 1200 times the average worker. The corporations, including VZ, are making record profits this year. Why is everyone harping on union workers? They're just trying to make an honest living to support their familes. I'm not in a union, but I support those who are because they represent the middle class of American. Destroy the unions and you destroy the middle class.

      • Thephantom says:

        The so called record profits are not coming from the group that's striking. Unions did much for workers in the distant past. Today they are a shell of what they used to be. For the most part, time has passed them by

      • entitled says:

        Old news the world has changed the country is bankrupt…stop being so entitled no more fully paid benefits and a 401K is what 95% of people get…live with it

        BS on the record profits

      • Bobbie says:

        of course we respect the union for it's initial intent. it created the government tax paid, NLRB. NLRB eliminated the need for a union as the labor laws are written. Today unions show thuggery, intimidation and an agenda not necessarily in favor of the employees and a definite opposition with little to no consideration to the employer. employees are tools. If people want the middle class (which we do) it's the union corruption and abuse of power destroying it. The effects of unions are hitting more then the employees and businesses as unions are influential with their promises to employees to ease their way into a business regardless of the business and with corruption, buy votes regardless of their members personal opinion for those elected officials whose acts invite destroying America. Seems a bit distasteful that government and companies with unions go so far to say "we're superior, we don't have to sacrifice"… like spoiled children… dangerous, spoiled children. the time for "the middle man" union is over! their conduct merits indecency with no will to negotiate but demand in obscene ways. they're more trouble then their worth. get rid of the cost and union and GIVE BACK the power to the employees…

      • factsdontlie says:

        bs, somewhere around 50 years ago they went from do good to just takers… real Americans make the middle class not these left of Lenin types

      • Jason says:

        Union workers aren't middle class. VZ Union make an avg. $90,000 plus $50,000 benefits. I have no problem with individuals choosing to join together to ask for good wages and working conditions. I also thoroughly support lobbying the government for Federal Labor Laws. What I do not agree with, is mandating a person Must join a Union as a condition of employment. Then you can extort dues from them which are used to fund a political party that the individual may or may not agree with, which in turn give kickbacks borrowed from China.

        • Jason says:

          VZ Wireline is not making record profit, which is where the Union workers work. If I thought it would help the company prosper, I would totally vote for the CEO cutting his pay to $1, so each of the 45,000 Union workers could have their share of $644.44/year, if the unions will agree to cut their benefits to the level of every other VZ employee, roughly a cut of $20,000 per worker as the Union workers claim. That cut would equate to 18,000, $50,000 jobs saved for non-union VZ workers next year. The real middle class. However, as a shareholder in a 401k, if a $29 million a year CEO, will prosper the company by billions over a $1 a year CEO, then I'll gladly see him paid to see everyone's shares rise.

      • barney m says:

        Unions are just organized extortion now. In the past needed, now just a thorn in our existence and driving prices up on everything made here. Cars are rediculous and it's because of what the unions created. One question: Are the union bosses still being paid during this strike??? If they are still drawing their salary then where is their incentive to come to an agreement. negotiate jackasses, everyone is paying into their healthcare now. I work for a healthcare system and I have to. I agree about the CEO pay at most corporations being obscene and criminal, but you need to negotiate a fair deal. Just do it.

      • Quest says:

        No question ALL workers have gained from Unions during a VERY different time and culture when the middle class was manual/skilled labor and a small minority were educated past highschool, when America BUILT things. Fast forward 50-75 years to today and middle class is College Educated and competing in a Global Economy. It may not be popular to say but the kind of work represented by unions today is no longer middle class becasue the country has shifted , not because of Verizon or any other large corporation. China and Mexico is who needs unions today, maybe then skilled labor in the US would be iin the position it was 50 years ago.

    16. Cubicle93 says:

      After reading the comments that follow dozens of online news articles, I'm convinced that most Americans have forgotten something important. The basic purpose of maintaining a civilization is to raise the standard of living for as many people as possible, not to funnel the fruits of the many into the pockets of a privileged few.

      Could people possibly get any dumber?

      • Jason says:

        Typical left wing misperseption. Economic growth is not a 0 sum game. If you have 10 people making $40,000, ($1000 per thingamagig they produce) one of them comes up with an ingenious way to be more productive and suddenly makes $80,000 (80 thingamagigs instead of 40), he is not "funnelling the fruits" off of anyone. Should the 9 people who are still only making $40,000 have the right to rob the one because he is evil? Or should they be pissed when he does what an average entreprenuer would do, which is, offer to let the other 9 use his new process as long as they pay him a little. Now you have 9 making $70,000 and one making… $170,000…Ah!!!!! that rich jerk!!!! stone him!!!!

      • Bobbie says:

        it's no one's job but the freedom of the individual to set their own standard, Cubicle93. It's interference and favoritism of those in authority have it be government and or unions, causing the lower living standards to the unsuspecting, whose only connection are costs of both, while government, unions and preferred workers standard of living is undeservedly raised! Hopefully people won't get any dumber!

    17. Dr. Davis says:

      We are a decent family with morals, and a belief that people who work hard, should be paid properly and respected. These comments about the union workers and their tactics represent the actions of few. Please consider the majority of union men are honest and hardworking. Most just want to go to work and come home to their family, like my husband. He just wants a pay check and some job security. We have 2 small children and are trying to raise them right- to stand up for what you believe. It is a difficult time for all involved. I ask that you consider if it were your job, your family. This country was built on freedom of speech, but why always such negative speech? Please think, before personally attacking and generalizing with such harsh and
      scathing words. Hopefully everyone will compromise and the strike will end. I am a manager and I support the union. Union- YES!

    18. Rachel says:

      I belong to the CWA and it is a complete waste! The unions protect the "dead weight" and lazy employees and do nothing for those who work hard and want to get ahead! I can't even collect unemployment and the 300 bucks a week I get from the union doesn't go far at all! Is the union going to pay my mortgage and other bills? The next job I get will be union free like my brother has who makes more money than me and enjoys the union free mentality!

      • Missy says:

        Kudos to you for telling it like it is…most won't because they are afraid of union retaliation.

      • Jason says:

        Right to Work. Couldn't have said it better myself. Why doesn't Rachel have a right to choose whether to fund an organization she doesn't agree with and who's money is probably going to fund a party she doesn't agree with.

      • MRM says:

        I've wondered why anyone who is a "go getter" would want to be in a union! For those like you who want to excel and get ahead, why wouldn't you want to be in a system that incents people who are overachievers? We have gotten to a point in this country where we reward mediocrity, and it is one of the reasons we are in such an economic mess. The issue goes far beyond this strike and is more about the highest ideals we promote as a nation. I applaud you for speaking out about this issue and for your desire to do well. Best of luck and I hope your efforts lead to tremendous success!

    19. luckyone4 says:

      It's sad to see that the money these large corporations have can even manipulate the NJ Supreme court. Big Brother is pulling our strings, and from some of the posts I read, they are Masters at it. If you think Verizon hired a bunch of disgusting dirt bags for upper middle class jobs, you are very misguided. They have multiple test you must pass in order to get a job with this company, and only a small percentage pass. Wake up and don't believe everything you read. It's the begining of a class war, and I'm signing up for the Militia…

      • Bobbie says:

        wow. scary. Union influenced, eh? Or is that who you REALLY are? Actions speak for the unions and so do their members. You would be respected inherently, if you could handle your job without today's corrupt union.

    20. cmc166 says:

      Ok – I really don't get this. I worked in telecom – union and management jobs my whole career. Everyone but union members are losing their pensions (replaced by 401K's that we need to contribute to), paying more and more money for medical benefits every year…. and middle management really doesn't make any more than a senior union worker. Retirement is not even an option for a large part of the working community now because they don't have pensions and their 401k's are in the crapper! Union members should be thankful that they still have pensions and can get overtime and have benefits that are far better then the average person. Companies are losing money, they need to consolidate and cut costs so that they can continue to employ people. Union workers need to recognize this and make sacrifices like the rest of us.

      • what's left? says:

        Apparently a lot of yous don't get it. To all those who think the union workers should be glad they have a job and just step aside as the company guts their benefits and pay I want you to ponder this… Is it the union who has protected the pensions and healthcare all these years? YES. Wouldn't the wages of these workers be significantly lower without the backing of the union? YES. And is it not the union who has fought against the company outsourcing jobs overseas? Again YES. Just because so many across america have allowed corporate greed to run rampant and drive wages to the bottom does not make it right. It's about time people started standing up to save whats left of the rapidly declining middle class in this country. I'm sure those workers are thinking its better to die on their feet fighting for something than to live on their knees begging for nothing.

    21. joeskrote says:

      The fact that the throwing of feces is included in a laundry list of other activities DOES NOT mean that any of the strikers have done so. Your implication that they have is an obvious distortion. Can you produce one instance where strikers threw feces at anyone? If anyone is throwing feces it's you and your "corporate state" cronies.

    22. alanwillingham says:

      Suggesting people exercise personal responsibility and make their own purchasing decisions instead of relying on some business to do it has resulted in expressions of hatred and a Minus ( -86) comment score.

      Is it really that offensive to suggest you might make better decisions for yourself and your family than leaving it to business and then getting mad about it?

    23. FrOsTbYtE says:

      What surprises me the most is that most of these abusive behaviors have been videotaped and posted on YouTube by the union members themselves. What's worse is that they are proud that they are doing it. I believe they have the right to protest and the right to express their grievances. But, throwing feces — that's just downright nasty!

    24. guest says:

      don't these strikers realize, no one ever wins when there is a strike, they will never recoup the wages they are losing being off work, anyone that needs a phone installed, phew, you'll just have to wait. I have a daughter and son in law, waiting for a land line that was promised 2 weeks ago. They are living in a cell phone dead zone, and their baby is due any day now, I would think someone would have the decency to call them back, but so far they have heard nothing. God how I hate big business. they are all too busy chasing the dime, and holding peole hostage to think about anything but themselves.

    25. Trueblu says:

      Reading some of these anti union post I can not really understand. The personal attacks. I am a tech whom works at Verizon. Verizon makes a great deal of money and pays little or no fed taxes. The idea that my skills can be replace by a 7-11 day laborer is crazy. Verizon does not care at all about the customers they say they what to improve service for. For all customers that have DSL or FIOS HOW IS YOUR SERVICE? I can bet you it could be a lot better. I have worked very hard for Verizon and this is how they say a great job. I have worked for Verizon for 27 years. It is very sad. This is a lose for everyone For Verizon, the workers , and customers. Just sad.

    26. Craig says:

      I am a retired vietnam vet and a verizon retiree !UNFORTUNATLEY, strikes bring out the best and the worst of people ! The public should be aware C W A over fifty years built, maintained installed and upgraded state of the
      art software hardware to provide residences, businesses and corporations alike.

      WE want the public to understand that Verizon wants us to make consessions like pensions healthcare cuts

    27. Angryasheck says:

      These union workers are animals, They will stop at nothing,,,,Where is there humanity, They are part of tge mafia seems like, Having worked for Verizon in the past these members are over paid and the lowest scum suckers in corporate america, Does everyone understand they have a no lay off clause which prevents the company from laying them off but yet they dont work a lick and management cant do a thing to rid a company of this scum, In other states where employees are hard workers get laid off instead and those employees want the job, pay & benefits and are willing to give up a liitle, When I worked there I was appalled that they steal money from the company by not working and abusing sick benefits which get paid by the state (tax payers). Verizon needs to give them a wake up call and bust the union down, Get a clue scum suckers you aint worth all that and especially not what verizon pays you and has afforded you over the years. Now go throw some crap on someone else

    28. guest says:

      Just received an email from Verizon after signing up this afternoon for phone and internet package.

      Service Ready Date*: Due to a temporary strike, we're unable to schedule a Service Ready Date at this time. A Verizon representative will contact you as soon as a date becomes available. You will not be billed for any equipment or service usage until your High Speed Internet is provisioned in our network. We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience.

      my reply was…

      Uh yea,

      The sales representative said nothing about a strike interfering with my service being established. He clearly stated that service is usually ready within 3 business days.

      I expect that to be honored, since that's what I agreed to.
      If this is going to take weeks or months, then just cancel this order…and I'll reject the equipment shipment…..I need internet connectivity NOW.

      Thank You,

      yes they will lose business.

    29. Guest says:

      I have worked at Verizon for many years, beginning as an hourly/union employee then promoted to management, and further promoted. Unions were originally created to guard against slave labor and poor working conditions. Management was running the business ensuring profits and growth. Both serve a purpose and create balance. I have worked with many hourly union members that took complete advantage of the union process to get away with poor work performance and lack of ethics. I have also worked with management that definitely showed obvious favortism to their subordinates and attempted to use their position to rid them of those they didn't care for at a personal level. Both entities have been needed to keep those with negative agendas on the right path. Hopefully, the Company and Union can reach a compromise without becoming too extreme. Perhaps setting an example for our government to communicate as opposed to totally shutting down because of differences.

    30. h washington says:

      The talk of union sabotage is a joke 2 cables damaged in DC reported sabotage were damaged by contractors working in area.M ost union people work hard for company and company keeps changing what they require from you every month.Men and women just trying to support there familieshe people at top of Verizon get Millions from the work we do company makes billions in profit but wants to take away from middle class worker. Just greed

    31. Guillermo says:

      The judge roon they freedom of throw in sheet. He is bad hombre. They should sheet his car. May be his home. Some day they have power. AK and RPG. Venceremos. Throw sheet.

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