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    Do American citizens have the right to express pride in their country by wearing the American flag public? Not in California they don’t. KNTV reports:

    On any other day at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Daniel Galli and his four friends would not even be noticed for wearing T-shirts with the American flag. But Cinco de Mayo is not any typical day especially on a campus with a large Mexican American student population.

    Galli says he and his friends were sitting at a table during brunch break when the vice principal asked two of the boys to remove American flag bandannas that they wearing on their heads and for the others to turn their American flag T-shirts inside out. When they refused, the boys were ordered to go to the principal’s office.

    “I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day,” Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. “We don’t deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn’t do that on Fourth of July.”

    What country is Morgan Hill in again? When Americans celebrate St. Patricks Day or Columbus Day, don’t we always see American flags flying right along side Irish and Italian ones? Why are the Mexican Americans at Live Oak High so insulted by the flag of the country that they live in? Do they not consider themselves Americans first?

    The mother of one of the offending flag wearers gets it: “There will not be an apology. Matthew is part Hispanic. He is an American.” How many Californians consider themselves American these days? Heritage’s Israel Ortega wrote last week:

    If there’s one thing Americans agree on, it’s that the United States is a nation of immigrants. Virtually everyone came from somewhere at some time. Even more important, though, is the fact that, after they arrived, they became Americans.

    Sure, some people hyphenate. One can be African-American, Chinese-American or Italian-American, but there’s an “American” in there somewhere. This country was built by immigrants who understood they were indeed building something valuable. They assimilated to their new land.

    The United States can’t afford to promote the creation of a group of second-class citizens who receive government-funded Spanish-speaking programs and services that serve only to further suppress economic progress among recent arrivals.

    As the contentious debate nears, we should underscore the importance of ensuring that all freedom-loving people who come to the U.S. legally should be able to become Americans, regardless of race and creed.

    Hispanic-Americans find themselves at an important crossroads of our country’s history, similar to the German and the Irish of the mid-19th century, who were confronted with the choice of gradually assimilating to the United States or hanging on to the allegiances of the old country.

    Rather than politicize the debate, Hispanic leaders should seize the opportunity to reaffirm the virtues of equality, freedom and the pursuit of happiness. They’re living in the greatest country on the face of the earth. It’s time to help make it even better.

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    37 Responses to Outside the Beltway: What Country is California in Again?

    1. Billie says:

      What grateful people.

      If you don't want to be a part of America and so offended go back to Mexico. There is no time for this insidious intolerance. This exemplifies the racism obama and his friends insist there is. The illusion is the conditioned minds thinking it's the people that are racist, the reality is it's the direction of bias, discriminating, racist, GOVERNMENT! Influencing hatred and human weakness.

    2. stirling, Pennsylvan says:

      It amazes me that those, who do not like this country, want to outlaw anything that is patriotic, religious, or an opposing viewpoint (for the sake of Political Correctness, which is also a cover for stopping free speach.) If those people don't like the country please leave to the nearest country that you agree with, rather then trying to force the rest of us to conform to your ideology. The American Flag represents all of us as a country, so in essence to put down the flag or disrespect the showing of it should offend everyone. Califonia does nothing to help themselves by pandering to the left view here. This still is a free country, and yes plenty of lawers still practice law in CA. How about a lawsuit on this school for the BS. Maybe if enough leftists got sued in CA they would think before they infringed upon our first amendment rights.

    3. Kim, Texas says:

      There is nothing wrong with celebrating with Mexico, but not at the expense of our own sovereignty. If that is what those students were protesting, more power to them. Freedom from those who opress is what our government was about and should be what every public school teaches first and foremost. Don't be an opressor. Give students a choice today to attend another school and it sounds like that school would be loosing customers.

    4. Frank, Albuquerque says:

      Anyone happen to know the, ahhh, heritage of that Vice Principal?

    5. SAMUEL says:

      America is not mexican-america, or muslim-america, or african-america. When one enters AMERICA they must leave their country at home or return to their country. Leave their lanugage in their country. Hello, this is AMERICA!

    6. Tim AZ says:

      Just another reason to let Kalifornia collapse. To rebuild a respectable American state upon the ashes of liberalism. Kalifornia is a state without a country by it's own choosing.

    7. Normca says:

      These boys are real Americans. I salute them. And by the way, at least two of the four have Mexican American parents. 200 of the city's youth marched on the school board offices demanding more punishment for the waving of the American flag. Obama is spurring these actions on by showing a complete lack of respect for a sovereign state legislature, when the former law school professor has not read the AZ law which mirrors the Federal law. His words – get in their face. California is becoming an island of misfits.

    8. Larry Elrod, Ypsilan says:

      This is The United States of America, if these Hispanic-Americans want to be an Amerrican. They need to drop this hyphenat name and be an American and that is all.

      • Jeremy, CA says:

        I see where you're coming from, you want a unity correct? One problem. There is no such thing as just an "american", no such thing. I bet your father, grandfather, or someone in your family was an immigrant? I think it's important to never forget where you're from, It's a part of who you are. It would be sort of inaccurate to just call oneself "american".

    9. Jennifer, Houston, T says:

      We live in AMERICA.

      We serve the AMERICAN flag.

      We pay AMERICAN taxes.

      Every single AMERICAN should be allowed and be proud to wear our flag at any venue and at any time in AMERICA. If you are offended by the AMERICAN flag and what she represents…you should go home and not enjoy all the liberties and freedoms that our great nation provides. If you came here to "live the American dream" then you should realize that you left home for a reason! Don't lose your heritage, but you certainly better not ask me to lose mine! This is MY country and I am PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!!

      • Jeremy, CA says:

        No one is asking you to lose your heritage. Most of your post mentions "if you don't like america then go home." That's you asking them to lose their heritage.

        As a frenchman, If i were to wear a french flag, I'm not telling you that you shouldn't wear your flag, I'm telling you that "hey this is where I'm from". It's common sense and if you can't tell the difference, then that's just pathetic. Now calm down.

    10. Tom, Okinawa, Japan says:

      It appears that these students are Mexican first not really true proud Americans. What have their parents been teaching them that they place Mexico above America. Don't they realize why their parents brought them to America? I wonder if those students would enjoy living in Mexico today. Furthermore, this is not a Mexican holiday that Mexico celebrates. Mexican Independence Day is in September. They like the American benefits they get but are afraid to support the country that provides them with a better living than their parents had in their home country?

      • Jeremy, CA says:

        They aren't afraid to support america when they're celebrating Cinco De Mayo. They're just celebrating their first home. America is a nation of Immigrants, expect people to celebrate the holidays of where they are from. That in itself is american. Being able to celebrate your own holidays without getting killed for it. You can still celebrate american holidays. Its them expressing their freedom of speech.

    11. Paul, Georgia says:

      in•cen•di•ar•y: a person who stirs up strife, sedition, etc.; an agitator.

      I find it appalling that the admimistration at this school, through their own subjective actions and prejudice, have caused what was a non-event to become

      an incentive for misguided counter-protests by others at the school, as well as

      paving the way for it to become an exaggerated international news item. The vice principal was clearly attempting to limit the students right to free speech and bravo to all five students for standing up to that challenge. BTW, do they still recite the "Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag" every morning at Live Oak or is it only voluntary?

    12. Dennis Social Circle says:

      This is what happens when certain groups think they must be treated different. America is a nation of immigrants, the difference those immigrants wanted to make something better for themselves and their family. They were willing to become a part of American society. The immigrants today believe they are special and are willing to demand they be treated different. The bad part, the politicans and the politically correct bunch have made them believe they are different and are to be treated as special. IT IS A SAD DAY WHEN THE AMERICAN FLAG IS NOT RESPECTED IN THIS COUNTRY, AND PEOPLE ARE PUNISHED BECAUSE OF SOME PRECEPTION THAT CERTAIN GROUPS MAY BE OFFENDED. I fought for the flag and do not care if some one is offended, go back where you came from, goo riddence.

    13. Lawrence, New Hampsh says:

      I agree with the concept of honoring one's heritage and that, since America is

      a nation comprised of many cultures, celebrating the good qualities of one's culture should be a learning process for others and it should be a guide for the proginy as well. What we see in these Mexican vs. American issues goes beyond honor and learning, it is a matter of a conflict of dominance and subordination. I side with Americans first. I am a first generation legal Itallian-American. Mexicans are, in many instances, intinerants and, in too many cases, illegals. To tell the legal Mexicans and the legal Americans that they must be subordinate to the intinerants and illegals is a call for conlfict and

      the legal citizens have reacted. Don't pull down our national symbol or raise your symbol own higher. Much native blood has been given to keep that American symbol above all others. If you want to be accepted and respected you must reciprocate.

    14. Mark, CA says:

      This quote just makes me upset:

      “I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day,” Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. “We don’t deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn’t do that on Fourth of July.”

      How in the world was she "disrespected" by seeing the flag at school on an unimportant holiday that revolves around excessive drinking, anyway? The flag of the country that provided her with that education, in the first place?

      But this is a fundamental attitude shared by many from that background. People who think this way don't deserve to live here, and they certainly don't ever deserve to have citizenship.

    15. Ron, ND says:

      So we are supposed to apologize for being Americans? In our own country? If they are offended by our patriotism they do not deserve to be here! Send them back to where they came from! Long live Arizona!

    16. Brian, Dallas, TX says:

      The last time I checked this is America, not Mexico, Canada, England, Ireland, France, Italy, China, Russia, or any other country someone decides to immigrate here from. You and I are Americans! No mater what anyone tells you, never apologize for showing your pride and patriotism for this great nation!…

    17. Don Harper says:

      Cinco de Mayo is the celebration of the victory of Mexicans over their Spanish rulers, just as Fourth of July is our celebration of American victory over our English rulers. As such, we, as people with different cultures, should embrace each other in recognizing and appreciating this mutual commonality – a victory of freedom over oppression. Similarly, the Juneteenth celebration should be embraced by all freedom loving people as an important historic landmark in our jouney from oppression to liberty. American flags should be flown during Cinco de Mayo, right along side the Mexican flag symbolizing the ascension of the New World over the Old. Don't let the bigots on either side turn us against each other.

    18. Gene, North Carolina says:

      What is this Mexican Holiday? I remember years ago, the Bars would sell Mexican beer at half price. I always believed that the Mexican beer companies created the holiday to introduce Mexican beer to Americans.

      .

    19. Drew Page, IL says:

      Drop the hyphens. You either want to be American or you don't.

      Don't come here, demand equality and then waive the flag of your former country and crow about how proud you are to be from somewhere else. If you are so proud to be from someplace else, go back and be proud there.

      What would that same school have done if students of Japanese ancestry had worn Japanese battle flag emblems on shirts on December 7th? What would they have done to students who wanted to wear German flag emblems on their shirts on D-Day? The best way to deal with this is to limit the wearing of national flags or emblems to those of the U.S. only, or none at all.

    20. Ben Franklin, Indian says:

      These idiots aren't even aware of their own history: Cinco de Mayo commemorates a relatively minor event in Mexico… It's not even recognized as a national holiday. Mexican Independence Day is Sept 16th

    21. Patti, Michigan says:

      Thank you for a great article. I think it is a travesty that these kids were suspended from school for demonstrating patriotism to the country they live in. People who immigate here are offended when this countries citizens are patriotic, then why are they here? I respect the Mexican's right to celebrate Cinco De Mayo and would never criticize, punish or offend them for doing so.

      I want to thank those young men for wearing things that showed their patriotism to the United States and for not backing down.

    22. Bob , Florida says:

      I fly the American flag in front of my home every day including Cinco de Mayo. Am I being insensative also? Should I not have flown the flag because it was Mexican Heritage Day?

    23. John Smith says:

      The real story here lies in the quotes of the Hispanic students. And there were many. They talk like the US isn't their country too. The mainstream media is ignoring story because they know it underscores the reasoning behind the AZ anti-illegal immigration law, and the MSM is still trying to convince the general population that the law is motivated by racism etc.

    24. Diane Curtis says:

      To what country do these young people pledge allegiance ????? If it isn't the United States of American, then they need to take their derriere to the country they wish to pledge their allegiance to….By the way, do they know that the American flag is a whole lot more important than any other flag in this country.???????..Sorry guys, I nor anyone else who wears a t-shirt with an American flag or flies an American flag owe you an apology…maybe you are definitely in the wrong country. Also those of you who want to wear the flag of Mexico, shame on you when you get your derriere on your shoulder.because someone else wears a flag from their country, which is suppose to be your country. What do you mean,"Disrespect you?"Good grief, alive, I cannot believe that some of you said that…

      What did that vice-principal mean sending those boys home? Now let me see, this school is in the United States of America. AMERICA, AMERICA…THE LAND OF THE FREE… Did the vice-principal forget to which country he owed his loyalties? While I am at it…let me tell you what a young man from Mexico told me…that Cinco de Mayo is not even a national holiday in Mexico, only a minor one. He also stated that these young Hispanic Americans make it difficult on other Hispanics. He also stated that whether they realize it or not,

      they are living in the best country on this earth..He really thinks that they are unaware what is going on in Mexico and maybe they need to live there for a while. I ask him, "What type of American are you?" He stated,"I am an American of Hispanic descent therefore I am an American."" Good answer", I told him.

    25. Regina, Atlanta, GA says:

      I think we should give Mexico a gift: the state of California.

    26. Regina, Atlanta, GA says:

      I think we should give Mexico a gift – the state of California.

    27. Vivien Vandehey says:

      Cinco de Mayo is not even a Mexican holiday, except in state of Puebla. This day is celebrated primarily in the U.S., like St. Patrick’s Day. Those hispanic students should study Mexican history, but more impotantly, U.S. history. which allowed them to be living in this wonderful country. They would not have the same rights to protest in Mexico.

    28. David says:

      Two of the four boys who wore the American flag clothing have Mexican ancestry. Why do the people who want to leverage this unfortunate local incident at Live Oak HS in Morgan Hill, CA into a national issue fail to mention that, and why do they ignore its implication? I’m going to hypothesize that it is because it would contradict the “this country is being overrun by Mexicans who will never integrate; we’re losing our national identity” narrative.

      Two school administrators made an error of judgment one morning in a small town in Northern California out of an abundance of caution to ensure the safety of all students–which is their responsibility. They erred because they sold their Mexican-American students short. Having lived in southern Santa Clara County all my life, I am certain nothing of note would occurred if the students had been allowed to wear their shirts. There is no ethnic tension here. Everyone involved has acknowledged that.

      This part of the county bred a red-headed Mexican-Irish-American, four time All-Pro quarterback named Jeff Garcia, whose paternal grandparents left a small town in the Mexican state of Jalisco, just like my great grandparents did, for a better life. This is the land that gave my great grandparents and their descendants an opportunity for a better life 92 years ago, and I am incredibly grateful for it. We’re American period, who just happen to occasionally enjoy mariachi music at family events. But if anyone would like question our American credentials, I’d refer them to one of the dozen relatives who served our country in Korea, Vietnam, Kosovo, Iraq, and Afghanistan, or to the location of my great uncle’s gravesite in Margraten.

    29. Carol, AZ says:

      Are we all sleeping walking through this list of changes that clearly has supported a sub culture approved by our Federal GOV't that we all pay for. .?

      Have you ever wondered about the reverse of all this banter over , backlash, racial profiling, reverse discrinmination, or just plain stupidity?

      Take your pick par favor .

      Press #2.

      We paid for cable programing offered in spanish forced on us ,no options there…

      We print job applications in Sp and entitlement handouts in Sp. paid for by the Fed G.

      We have re-formatted entire educational system to Sp/to english, as an answer to?.

      We print tests in Sp at places like the DMV.( paid for by the Fed G).

      Does any one ask, "do you have car insurance?" or is that profiling?

      We come to the huge dollars deficits carried by hospitals ( fed law passed in 1886 ) for free healh care. …but we quibble over a quasi Sp holiday ..

      As for the suggestion that Ca just be handed over to Mexico…..

      You kind of got it backwards.

      Mexcio has handed over to you their responsibily.

      This corrupt country for decades is making a tidy piece of change off of all the money coming-in form here to there.

      The word is certainly out in there.

      They head for the states that they know will hire them

      and the states that will also welcome them., and support them openingly.

      CA and CO or bust.. ….

      Ca was the first State to boycott AZ

      when Governor Brewer signed to law ,SN-1070.

      All we heard your screams about racial profiling yadda, yadda.

      The media talked about nothing else for one week untill the oil spill took center..

      We all know here that CA never read this well crafted law .

      If you do, ( Eng press 1, Sp press 2). .which has nothing to do about profiling people. It's about enforcing the the law.

      Az currently has a deficit of $1. billion dollars just for education.

      Also considered, at the bottom (46th) in quality for education out, of 50 states.

      We also refuse to become Sancturay status , as CA is soooo proud of

      And your are worried about Conco de Mayo?

    30. Guillame Cincinnati says:

      The first mistake is believing that the most aggressive “young people” have any clue or care about the right or wrong of an argument. Having worked with teens for years, I know that many of them will take any position simply to create trouble. The issue is of no importance.

    31. Billie says:

      The children wouldn't have minded if they didn't have government influence reflecting INTOLERANCE!

    32. RONNIE NOWELL DALLAS says:

      well written

    33. Lainey, Dallas, TX says:

      Why did they choose to wear the flag this particular day – and all four? What were they trying to say? Were they supportive of the day or were they saying to Mexican Independence Day "In your face!"……that is not clear. If they were wearing the flag to acknowledge the Hispanic heritige and the American heritige…that is one thing. If they were wearing it to essential say "We are Americans, not Mexicans….why are we celebrating – get over it!" that is completely another. Which is it? Because if they wore them to be "Anti-Cinco de Mayo" it should be questioned. It is a school and in this day and age free speech is great, but why should they be allowed to instigate possible trouble with their actions at a school? If so, invite the KKK to the next Martin Luther King celebration at all high schools.

    34. Gray_Stroke in the R says:

      "Don Harper on May 6th, 2010 at 5:00pm said:

      Cinco de Mayo is the celebration of the victory of Mexicans over their Spanish rulers, just as Fourth of July is our celebration of American victory over our English rulers. As such, we, as people with different cultures, should embrace each other in recognizing and appreciating this mutual commonality – a victory of freedom over oppression. "

      This is very shallow understanding of history. It is a small battle against the French and not even worth a footnote in history were it not for a beer company that successfully found a market niche. So, for one get your history correct, second I refuse to accept any race/ethnic group that promotes its own over assimilating into America and our culture. My ethnicity is Spaniard, German, Mexican and some Native Indian, BUT I'm AMERICAN FIRST and FOREMOST. It is sad to see how little intellect is invested and to see how much estrogen modern men spray into the public for consumption…….where are the rest of us Alpha males…?

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