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  • Morning Bell: "The American Public Is Not Behind This Bill"

    After more than a year of $862 billion dollar deficit stimulus bills, national-debt-doubling federal budgets, and government takeovers of the auto industry, it is difficult to remember that President Barack Obama actually ran as a moderate in many ways. On his way to a 53% – 46% win over Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), then-Sen. Obama promised to “cut taxes for 95% of workers and their families,” expand the Army by 65,000 and the Marines by 27,000, and enact “a net spending cut” for the federal government. Obama promised lower taxes, a strong defense and shrinking the size of government. No wonder independents in nine states that went for President George Bush in 2000 and 2004 switched their vote to Obama in 2008 (CO, FL, IN, IA, NV, NM, NC, OH and VA). But now those independents are beginning to reassess. Public Policy Polling (a liberal polling firm) notes that Obama now has a negative approval rating in every state that he flipped from the Bush column to his in 2008.

    And now President Obama has lost one of his biggest and earliest supporters on his signature issue: health care. Yesterday, when pressed on CNBC if he would be in favor of scrapping the Senate health care bill, Warren Buffett responded: “I would be.” Specifically, Buffett believes that the Senate bill will not contain health care costs: “We have a health system that, in terms of cost, is really out of control, and if you take this line and you project what has been happening into the future, we will get less and less competitive. So, we need something else. Unfortunately, we came up with a bill that really doesn’t attack the cost situation that much and we have to have a fundamental change.” Buffett is correct on both fronts: 1) the President’s own Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) has reported that the Senate health care bill would raise national health expenditures $234 billion by 2019; and 2) our current system is completely unable to control exploding health care costs.

    So why is our current system completely unable to control costs? For the same reason most Americans over-eat at buffets: when you don’t have to pay for each plate of food, you usually eat more. In recent decades, the percentage of health care spending paid “out of pocket” by patients has fallen substantially, from 52% in 1965 to only 15% in 2005. Instead of patients paying for the care they receive, our system is built around a third-party payment system where the government and insurance companies are the ones who actually pay for individual medical expenses. When prices are determined through administrative procedures rather than market processes, both patients and producers are anesthetized from normal market incentives to reduce prices and spending. That is why our health care costs are rising so rapidly.

    And every major pillar of Obamacare makes the third-party-payer problem worse: mandates that limit out-of-pocket spending by patients, mandates that extend the minimum benefits insurance must cover, a massive expansion of Medicaid, and lower limits on the tax deductibility of out-of-pocket spending. And the one measure that the left once pointed to as its key cost-reducing measure – the taxing of expensive health insurance plans – has been gutted and pushed back until 2018, when any honest observer knows it will never be implemented. Commenting on the state of health care reform, Buffet told CNBC yesterday:

    If it was a choice today between plan A, which is what we’ve got, or plan B, what is in front of — the Senate bill, I would vote for the Senate bill. But I would much rather see a plan C that really attacks costs. And I think that’s what the American public wants to see. I mean, the American public is not behind this bill. And we need the American public behind the bill, because it’s going to have to do some tough things.

    The current system is unsustainable. We do need heath care reform. But not reform that is opposed by the vast majority of the American people and makes the core problem of the current system worse. The President should follow Buffett’s advice, scrap the current bill and start over.

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    86 Responses to Morning Bell: "The American Public Is Not Behind This Bill"

    1. Dan, Illinois says:

      Thank you Mr. Buffet! You are a great American. Unfortunately, Obama will not listen to Mr. Buffet or the will of the people he is employed to represent.

      The plan is very simple, destroy the ecomomy and personal wealth to the point that the majority of Americans find themselves depending on a growing government for their income and health care. The result is a liberals utopia.

      Call your representatives! Vote conservative in November!

    2. Mike, McKinney,TX says:

      BHO and the Dems would have to admit failure to scrap the current proposals and that just will not happen until they can blame someone else for their failure….

    3. Bill,Mi. says:

      I thought Buffet was educated in Finance. What took him so long to figure this one out?

    4. Mary.... WI says:

      I think we all know BO, Pelosi and Reid WILL pass some kind of ridiculous healthcare bill. They DON"T CARE what the majority of Americans want. They will have thrown the Americans, the constitution and this country into the abyss because of THEIR "PROGRESSIVE" NEED FOR POWER AND GREED.

    5. clay ,dallas,texas says:

      All I can say is IMPEACH this MORON A.S.A.P. before "it" completely destroys this country! "IT" and the rest his cronies should ALL be in prison for treason!

    6. Bill says:

      Why would we want the Goverment running health care. Look what they have done to the Post Office. Look at all program and they have screwed up every time. We need term limits for Senators, just a President. * years for a Senator, that will give enough time to screw up something.

    7. Ken Jarvis says:

      GREAT. More joined in yesterday for our TRUTH discussion.

      Americans LIKE the pieces of ObamaCare,

      but Murdock and HF have convinced a few

      that ONLY THE RICH SHOULD BE COVERED.

      LVKen7@Gmail.com

    8. Dave Wooldridge Indi says:

      I'm just very tired of reading articles about how BHOs' agenda is going to destroy America. Don't get me wrong, I agree 110%, but it sounds so much like closing the barn door after the horse is out. What good does it do to keep saying that we're going to Hell in a handbasket over and over again, without substantial plans to counter his attacks? D.C. conservatives are as scarce as the original copy of the Constitution! Michael Steele?! Gimme a break! Talk about lemmings following over the cliff!! "We're off to see the Wizzard, the Wonderful Wizzard of Oz!"

      After one year, everybody knows BHOs' agenda, but we have to come up with a real plan, not just the Mt. Vernon Statement, but the next step to bring Conservatism back to the front burner. Are there any? If so, where are they?

    9. Jeff, Scottsdale, AZ says:

      What does Warren Buffet know about health care and its costs? Is he a doctor, hospital administrator or other industry professional?

      I think he's just another guy who buys insurance as the rest of us do and further, I doubt very much he even knows the amount of his annual premium.

      Mr. Buffet may do us all a favor by challenging the idea that it is the purpose of business owners and employers to provide health care benefits of any kind for their employees. Why aren't employers required to provide cars for their employees? Why not groceries or homes? It's a silly premise.

      To the extent that governments get out of health care and lose the "entitlement" mentality, health care costs will fall.

    10. William, Malta, Ohio says:

      And I suppose you posit that the current in its entirety will pay any attention to reasoned thought on this subject. Are you so naive to presume that the ignoramuses in Washington will actually read and heed the reasoning in this piece? It appears to me that some wild-eyed lunatic will have to invade congress with a thousand foul-smelling skunks and dump them all on an unsuspecting joint congressional meeting before the deaf and dumb reps and senators will listen. They are all hell-bent on passing a bill that will not only completely destroy what health care we currently enjoy, but our entire economy along with it. Now that's just what we all define as 'INSANITY"! None of the democrats will survive such a move, and perhaps that's the only positive thing about their attempts to drive us into an unwanted European style,, third world,

    11. Tuscaloosa Al says:

      I pay for my health care and sometimes it is a struggel. Well make that all the time,but I want to control my life and death issues and it's quality. Obama needs to but out. Fred

    12. Kevin McCarthy, Virg says:

      Independents are swinging away from Obama?. . .and so we are supposed to be happy and welcome them with open arms? NOT SO FAST. . .I want all independents, who voted Obama, expatriated to a tropical island where psychiatric examination can commence by a commission composed of rotating teams of the world's leading mental health professionals. Once certified as "clean" the independent may be reintegrated into society on the condition that they report, monthly, to a local mental health facility and give account. If after three years they show no signs of sickness (including believing in Santa, the Easter bunny. . etc) They will no longer be required to wear the yellow jumpsuit and helmet with the flashing red light on top.

    13. William, Malta, Ohio says:

      And I suppose you posit that the current government in its entirety will pay any attention to reasoned thought on this subject. Are you so naive to presume that the ignoramuses in Washington will actually read and heed the reasoning in this piece? It appears to me that some wild-eyed lunatic will have to invade congress with a thousand foul-smelling skunks and dump them all on an unsuspecting joint congressional meeting before the deaf and dumb reps and senators will listen. They are all hell-bent on passing a bill that will not only completely destroy what health care we currently enjoy, but our entire economy along with it. Now that’s just what we all define as ‘INSANITY”! None of the democrats will survive such a move, and perhaps that’s the only positive thing about their attempts to drive us into an unwanted European style third rate country. This is, however, the stated goal of obama and his socialist minions.

    14. Whicket Williams Kin says:

      Glenn Beck is correct Everybody needs to listen to the words the progressive speak when they are speaking to those who support them. If you did not see the Glenn Beck show at least once yesterday, you need to go on-line and listen to the speeches he played of the progressive promising to destroy the United States of America. Our people are asleep. We are in the midst of a communist revolution and the American public is drugged. Why don't you people wake up?

    15. J.C. Hughes, Texas says:

      Again, as stated by the primary author of our nation's constitution in his commentary, The Federalist # 45, "The powers delegated to the federal government are few and defined … principally on external objects as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce. The powers reserved to the several states will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people." Health care reform belongs at the state level. Need I say more??? Congress, it's high time to correct past federal overreach and return America to its founding principals!!!

    16. lOUIS DI VENUTA says:

      YESTERDAY RUSH LIMBAUGH SAID , IF THE DEMS WANT TO LOSE IN NOV.SO THAT THEY CAN AT ALL COSTS PASS THEIR HEALTH CARE BILL ,THATS GREAT ,BUT REPB, NEED TO START NOW TODAY AND RUN ON THIS PREMISE,"ELECT ME AND I WILL CHANGE THE BILLS IN MY FIRST TERM".

      THAT IS GREAT CONSERVATIVE THINKING

    17. Freddie L Barnett,Tu says:

      Hello, I buy my health care and it is a struggel sometimes. No make that all the time. However I want control of my quality of care and life and death issues. I'm also on a fixed income of @1700.00 a month and health care coat 375.00 That is about 1/4 of my income. I just make it a pirioty and just do it. tell Obama to but out. He needs to get a real job. Maybe Jimmy can let him help at H/H. Fred

    18. bill984 says:

      obviously the heritage foundation doesn't know what it is talking about.

      i heard nacy pelosi say "this bill is what America wants" repeatedly.

    19. Richard Cancemi, Arl says:

      Obama posed as a moderate during his campaign to hide his radical intentions. Too many people were fooled by him and too many still are. This man thinks that because he is in office that he has the right to scrap everything that America is under the Constitution. He wants Socialism, Marxism, Progressivism, whatever you want to call it!

      It doesn't matter if we could afford "Obama care" or any version which gives control to the government; it should still be rejected outright because it would be a coup for him as a giant step to Socialization of these United States of America. We must be on guard and reject any and all of the Progressives' plans that would be contrary to the Constitution and our Rights. Big Government is NOT good! It is a Danger to freedom!

    20. david peacock=====ne says:

      all conservatives must walk away from this health bill;; JUST SAY NOT TO SOCIALISM, McCain would not say Obumbler is a socialist;; but he and his Marxist czars and minions are intentionally trying to tear AMERICA APART.

    21. Joseph Arsenault Dre says:

      The more I hrear on these procedings the more I beleive the people pushing this are more interested in getting this country into socialism than future elections. Once legislation is enacted, it generally stays in place.

      Joe A

    22. Ken Jarvis says:

      WONDER WHY THE HF DIDN'T POST THIS?

      Warren Buffett said "out of control" health care costs are a "tapeworm" limiting growth in an economy recovering only fitfully from the financial crisis.

      The world's second-richest person called on Washington policymakers to adopt fundamental reforms on such costs to address what he called a "national emergency."

      LVKen7@Gmail.com

    23. Charlotte O'Har says:

      Perhaps we should look to models that have worked to reform health care and contain costs such as Indiana's Health Savings Accounts for public employees and Safeway's plan that encourages (no mandates, individual choice and responsibility) healthier lifestyles. Both provide market incentives for individuals to have some "skin in the game" when purchasing health care services.

      Until the free market regains a place in the debate, all reform rhetoric will continue to be the Trojan Horse for the Democrat's radical agenda.

    24. Mel Nelson (Cary, NC says:

      I don't understand Buffetts statements. Seems like he says that he wants to scrap the Senate bill, but then says he is OK with "Plan B" that is in front of the Senate. Please Clarify

      Thanks

    25. Marilyn, Indiana on says:

      You have to be out of your mind! You would vote for the senate bill over our present system? I have had copies of the last bill on my computer and I did not read all of it because it is too lengthy and besides you do not have to read much to see that it is NOT about healthcare! It is about controlling every single man, women and child in this country! It is also about raising taxes to unheard of heights, and giving illegal immigrants not only care but taxpayers paying for translators for them, because a large number speak only spanish! It means having a layperson who knows little to nothing about healthcare telling you and everybody else when and possibly which doctor you can see! There is more except I wonder whose side you are on , actually??? I was a nurse in various positions for nearly 30 years I have relatives who are still working in the present healthcare system and I can tell you any poor and/or indigent person could walk into any Emergency Room and get the same treatment anybody else would and if it was serious enough to need surgery and ICU care, they would get it the same as anybody else! Hospitals have had money put back for these things for many years!

      The idea that thousands and possibly millions are dying from LACK of healthcare is a bald faced lie! If anybody dies it is because they did not try to get help and those people are few and far between. Please get your facts straight!

    26. Mel Nelson, (Cary, N says:

      Not sure if my first comment was accepted.

    27. Lloyd Scallan - New says:

      We all know Obama is an accomplished lier. We all know he has done nothing

      he said he would during the campaign. We all know Obama want to "transform" this country into his socialist utopia. Then why would we expect Obama to consede the "American public is not behind this Bill". Obama, and his Democrat lackeys will never admit to this fact. Many still don't get it. Obama is the culmination of 100 years of socialist planing to take over this country. Obama and the Dems will NEVER stop. We must stop them.

    28. Marilyn, Indiana on says:

      I want to correct my first comment, please! Instead of addressing my comments to you they should have been addressed to Warren Buffet!

      It is easy for him to say he would back the senate bill because he has the money to pay for his healthcare out of his pocket! He needs no insurance!

      I apologize for this glaring error! Another person, besides the entire congress, who does not know anything at all about how the entire healthcare system works! It is just that along with many people, I am truly more angry than I have ever been in my life and over this whole past year!

      It is getting very tiresome but we will not give up!

    29. Wildcat from Dallast says:

      The American people were never that much for any of the HCR bills that have emerged from smoke filled rooms where sleazy deals were made between politicians (Reid, Pelosi, Emanuel & BO himself) and everyone from unions that supported BO to tort lawyers to big Pharma and even health insurance companies. As the outright purchase of votes by Reid (BO or Emanuel) using your hard earned tax dollars (as well as money they do not even have access to yet) known by such names as “the Cornhusker Kickback” and the “Louisiana Purchase” became public any minor support for existing HCR bill(s) waned even more!

      The list of career politicians that have outlived their “use by-sell by” dates in Washington has grown. It does not matter which party is attached to their name, the list of those that actually served with integrity and honor with respect to the people they represent is incredibly small. Those on the longer list are the poster children for the next campaign for term limits.

      While I personally do not base my decisions upon the utterances of Warren Buffet, many in Washington seem to give his words tremendous weight. It would be great to see how his words would be reported and taken had he more forcibly said to scrap the current versions of HCR and start from square one or forget any form of HCR for the next three years as the American people do not want their elected officials wasting another minute trying to do something they absolutely do not want. While some from Congress may take those words more seriously, BO and his merry band of pirates would still plan to push for subpar legislation.

    30. notmd says:

      I agree that if cost reduction is now the startegy versus universal coverage ,the proposal needs to address the follwing issues..

      1)5% of patients use up 50% of medicaid dollars

      2)the last year of life uses up 30% of the medicare funds

      3)60% of patients don't take their medications

      4)cost shifting must be prevented..

      time to deal with the tough questions which has been the elephant in the room..

    31. Ozzy6900, CT says:

      My God, when is this going to be understood? There is nothing wrong with our Health Care System, the problem is with the Health Care INSURANCE. If you cannot afford to go to a doctor, you go to an Emergency Room and they HAVE to take care of you!

      The problem is multi-fold.

      1. Insurance Companies are bound by the State lines that they operate in. If there was interstate competition, this would reduce prices.

      2. Torte laws are a joke! The judges allow the most frivolous suits to pass through the system so no matter what the ruling, the malpractice insurance goes up! Add to this people want $1 million for a hang nail and you see where this goes.

      3. People are also to blame. No one wants to pay for anything when it comes to Health Care. You go to the doctor for a checkup and you expect the insurance to pay for it. Why? Shouldn't Health Care Insurance be for the catastrophes? Surgery, hospital stay, cancer, recovery….. these are things that can put a person broke, not a doctor visit!

      4 Unions are one of the biggest pushers of "We don't want to pay a dime for Health Care." Well, the unions get a break because of the numbers but SOMEBODY has to make up the difference, and THAT is never thought of by anyone at all!

      5. Get the Government OUT of Health Care Insurance and let the Insurance Companies run the business. They sure are more qualified than the Government to do this, but everyone is afraid that the insurance companies will run a mock. They are a business and as a business, they know that there is competition (even more if item #1 was cleared up) and they want every bit of business the can get.

      Health Care Insurance is a SIMPLE fix, but you have to convince the Liberal Government to get the heck out of the pot….. and THAT's not going to happen.

    32. Christopher Popham S says:

      It is sad to say, but abundantly clear that the White House, Madame Speaker and

      the Rep. leader of the Senate, in their inimitable hubris and revolting arrogance are

      planning, by any means (reconciliation?), to force through passage of 2700 pages of

      a bill, which none of them have read. As we all know, the bill contains mandates,

      dictates and crushing taxes, not to mention the creation of 111 new federal

      bureaucracies! Since last August, the plurality of American citizens have refuted and

      rejected this costly and devastating piece of legislation to the economy.

      Washington has now wasted a whole year on a futile effort to abscond with 16% of

      the economy. Instead, their focus should have been on repairing and healing our

      on-going fiscal crisis. We are still in a serious recessionary period.

      As the Democrats persist in this hopeless and perilous attempt to control health care, they are drafting their demise for Nov. 2nd., for we shall eliminate members of both parties with the power of the people's vote at the polls.

      The 21st Century American Revolution has begun.

    33. Fox Hunter, Californ says:

      The obvious question is that if this is such a wonderful and important bill, why isn't everyone for it without all the backroom deals and coercion?

      2010 WILL be a bloodbath for Democrats. I just hope it's not too late.

    34. Kathy NC says:

      I think we are ignoring a very important reason for rising health care costs, law suits! Unpresidented law suits raise the liability insurance Drs and hospitals have to pay on a yearly basis. They also push medical facilities to run the maximum number of tests because if the diagnosis is delayed or incorrect the first time they will be sued.

      Decrease the laws suits, we would be surprised how much lower our medical bills will be.

      Also, those of us who can pay our medical bills have to cover the cost of those who can't or won't pay. There are over head costs just to keep a Drs office or a hospital open.

    35. C Hyatt, Albuquerque says:

      Nancy, "2010", and then we will finish the job in "2012". So, pass your bill. Regardless, it's time for some more "hope and change". Confusing? You and the rest are just not listening. We need jobs, not more expenses and we need jobs that are sustainable, not jobs that are nothing more than reallocation of wealth. We need jobs that produce something that can be sold for profit, not jobs that consume tax payer cash. I know, its a very difficult concept to get your hands around. Only 8 months and counting!

    36. Marc Schraeder (Flem says:

      Once again, we have let the Democrats frame the debate. The original focal point of the Health Care debate was Health Care Costs. Now, the debate has been modified by Democrat rhetoric into focusing on the cost of Health Care Insurance. Any attempt to control the cost of Insurance without robust modifications to the underlying cost of the item covered is doomed to fail. Federalizing health insurance is just throwing money into a pit that grow deeper with each penny.

      The debate should be redirected to fixing the issues that caused the problem to begin with – spiraling health care costs – NOT health care insurance costs. Tort reform – obscene jury awards – even more obscene punitive damage awards – frivolous suits – percentage remuneration for lawyers – the medical profession's white wall of silence.

      Let's remember that awards made against corporations are not absorbed by those entities, they are passed on to the consumers. Let's stop taking or legal system for granted by acknowledging every picayune problem as worthy. Let's acknowledge that every attorney wants to make as much as possible for his client and himself, even if it means jacking up the award request to levels never before seen, and that we all pay for it in the end. Let's stop allowing medical professionals to skate by unscathed when they know a colleague has done something wrong, but do nothing to help, educate or stop the wrong-doer.

      Take back the debate – refocus on the real issue – the cost of modern medicine, NOT its derivative insurance cost.

    37. Robert, Newdale, Ida says:

      Start over???

      This comment simply tells me that you do not understand the Constitution or the limitation of powers defined therein. Healthcare is NOT a proper function of the federal government.

      Start over??? Haven't we learned anything from this mess? This is not an issue situation – this is a principle situation. Violate the principle (limitation of government) and the issue will result in our total loss of freedom.

      Start over???? God forbid!

    38. Dave White, Provo, U says:

      I retired after teaching HS and college students Biology and Health for 42 years. Over the years the attitudes of my students changed from "I'm responsible for me and the results of my actions" to "I'm owed every thing." I'm not surprised that so many believe that health care is a right that should be provided for them instead of accepting any personal responsibility. How many seniors carry catastrophic health insurance to pay for possible expensive care? It could have been built into medicare. Until we solve the the two greatest problems– Lack of real long term planning in health care and more self responsibility (they are inter dependent)- we will never solve the problems or reduce costs.

    39. Susanna, Kansas says:

      So, for the alleged sake of a few (31 million give or take), the other 280 million of us must put up with this(???!!!) I don't think so.

      I carry my own insurance – pay for it out of my own pocket. I am currently unemployed – Now THERE is the HERD OF ELEPHANTS IN THE ROOM!!! These nitwits need to give it up and get Americans back to work! Even it they get this health care debacle passed using a slimeball approach – who the Sam Hill do they expect is going to PAY for it? The wealthy??? Isn't that THEM????

      Furthermore, as long as the government, the unions, the Congress, the President don't include their own healthcare plans in this debacle – where EVERYONE legally in this country is covered – they are disingenuous and it is all horse hockey to me! Criminal and treasonous, actually.

    40. Giles, Winnsboro, TX says:

      The guise of health care reform. Reform is to usurp 1/6th of our economy, tax the citizens until they are broke and point the US to global governance. Create hundreds more jobs to administer the new reform, collect funds before implementation of the first stages of the new reform, take the funds and place them into a fund that is not protected, remember medicare.Think of the new directives of the USPS, no more Saturday deliveries because they are broke!!! USPS may be "privatized" however they are completely government regulated. The government created the problem and is not capable of solving the problem. Throw all this reform out and start over, but the egos won't let that happen, now it is a personal affront to their "job performance" if they don't pass this devastating legislation now. Allow the free market system (regulations currently tell us who we can buy from and where they must be so we can buy from them) to right the high costs by the government butting out and eliminating the ineffective redundant regulations that have caused the problem in the first place. People need to realize that insurance was not meant for the sniffles nor was it expected to pay everything with little cost to the consumer. If you want the government to subsidize the cost they will regulate the products, you will pay for your premium and your taxes will be placed in government coffers (see you are already paying 2 times for one service). If you want the costs to come down, purchase insurance for the "big" illnesses, pay your way as you go and don't expect someone else to pay for your health care. The free market would demand, by consumers, those products that are not competitive in cost and coverage disappear as consumers would not purchase them, those that offered reasonable cost and coverage products but also assured (through performance and fiscal accountability) consumers if the catastrophic illness comes they are covered. There does need to be some regulation, but regulation upon regulation only guarantees, accountability of the insurance company is arbitrary and ferreting out which regulation applies to your case is like finding the proverbial needle in the hay stack. Let the states handle this issue, not the federal government. We don't need permanent Congressional employees in Washington, D.C. No to health care, cap and trade, global governance, gun control, speech control, more and remove taxes upon taxes upon taxes upon taxes. Yes to the simplicity of the Constitution of the United States.

    41. bigdave, ocala fl says:

      This is so simple even Ken in Vegas should get it. Many republican senators/congressmen are DOCTORS. The democrats? ATTORNEYS! Hence, the most important FIRST STEP to lowering costs is TORT REFORM, but the dems say NO because they are INDEBTED TO TRIAL LAWYERS ASSO! Talk about CORRUPTION and PAYOFFS and TO HECK WITH THE PEOPLE! You should be proud Ken! AND, government REGULATIONS PREVENT INSURANCE COMPANIES from selling across state lines! Did you watch CSPAN Ken? Did you see a "president" so DEFENSIVE, so ARROGANT, so UNTRUTHFUL and so CONDESCENDING…hint…because he has not a CLUE what he is talking about! He has ZERO EXPERIENCE!!!!! Like I said before Ken, you can put a crown on a pig, it won't make him a KING! And, the more people find out who the REAL OBAMA is, the less they will like.

    42. Kevin Habib, Glen Bu says:

      The fact is these Members of Congress were elected into office and should act on what they were put there to do. In all the exit polls in 2008, health care was either the 2nd or 3rd most important to voters.

      It's amazing how much these folks regurgitate the nonsense. I keep hearing 'no one has read the bill'. That is silly. I have read the bill. I read it months ago. Every single member has read the bill, except maybe the republicans who have decided to vote against health reform regardless of what is in the bill.

      I also enjoy to see all the calls for government to stay out of health care – yet the very same people don't want their Medicare or Medicaid or VA health system touched – all government run health care.

      Just shows me how many orgs like Heritage have been bought out by for profit hospitals, health insurers and pharma. And so many americans watch these news programs and get brainwashed.

      The Majority was elected – they shoudl use their majority and pass the bill by majority rules. That is what America is all about – majority rules~!~!

    43. Rich Burlington says:

      why do you all think that the federal government can't improve services, reduce costs, make compassionate personal decisions for me, and make our private health care system work more efficiantly and effectively for everyone. Look at how compassionate and effective they are in everything else they do.

    44. bigdave, ocala fl says:

      By the way folks, this SHAM of an administration continues to rant " more people are losing their healthcare because they lost their jobs", as if the loss of a job is SECONDARY!! Democrats are the most insidious people on the planet! They even rant against the Bush tax cuts! Yeah, its criminal that American Workers are "allowed" to keep MORE of the money they EARNED!!!HUh? The audacity and stupidity of these demorat morons is just astounding! And the dems say lets cut even more jobs with the sham cap and trade, put more businesses out of work, raise the cost of energy so people have less to spend thereby closing even more businesses and more job losses and then EVERYONE will be dependent on the government…YEAH! What a party! Yeah Ken, way to go guy! We should cut 50% of government "workers", then cut 30% of salaries and benefits of politicians, AND NO PRIVATE PLANES PELOSI!

    45. Lloyd Welch Valdese, says:

      I have commented so much on this issue I don't think I have anything left to say except I suppose I will soon be in prison because I absolutely refuse to be part of this. I will go to prison in protest of this.

    46. Robert, Boca Raton F says:

      The "Twitter" aspect of Obama's plan is highly disturbing – SPN Headlined has the story at:

      http://stupidassnews.wordpress.com/2010/02/21/fin

      Keep smiling! :-)

    47. vincent loffredo, ne says:

      this health bill is a waste of time. The only solution is private afforable health care. the government distroy's everything it touches. Amac solution would be a start. stop all bailout. freeze all government spend. cut the federal government by 10 percent, get back our money from aig,general motors, and freddie and fannie may. if they dont pay cut them up in quarters and sell them off. All money that has been returned or will be should go to pay off the debt. Cut all elected officials and appointees jobs pay by fifteen percent. This is a good common sense solution to start with. if we do not it will brankrupt this country, this government is a imernate threat to every US citizen freedom and liberty.

    48. Bob Veigel, Arlingto says:

      Obama is trying to destroy 'The Home of the Brave and The Land of the Free'. Why would any real American and thinking person be behind any bill Obama proposes?

    49. A Go California says:

      Can't Americans immediately remove government officials who lied more than once? It is unbelievable that they said "we the people were un-americans, thumb and idiots"? They think we can be trashed by dictators? Americans, stand up. Let them look at us, face to face. Scrab Obamacare. Let us take care of the national debt, jobs, uncontrollable spending. Do we want America obliterated and tramped by other nations? Our children and grandchildren do not deserve to be treated in this way by this socialist government.

    50. Dennis Social Circle says:

      This bill is the ruin of this country. During the campaign of 2008 obama stated he belived in spreading the wealth. To me that means take from those that have worked hard and give to those that sit on their butts and do nothing to help themselves. Yes the health care system needs to be improved, but not the way of a socialist. As a country and a people we all know we can not afford this massive thing the dems want and are willing to push down our throats. Congress must realize they need to start over and come up with a plan that we can afford, the give away programs have not and will not work. Today we have to many on the roll of give me, and have no one that will say it is to much.
      It is time for all Americans to get back to the basics of what made this country great, hard work, dedication to doing what is right, and be willing to work to get ahead. Society does not owe any of us a living nor does society owe one the luxuries of life. If you want it, work for it.

    51. Ron Derry nh says:

      The Republicans have sent forth bill after bill addressing the corruption, and costs to no avail; this is about socialism not about costs. The argument here is; are we ready to allow this country to be taken over by a fundamental shift toward more government coercion into price manipulation so wealthy investors can use the medical field to define their economic futures or are we going to break up the coercion and collusion between Congress and the health care industry and allow some competitive risk to clean up the snake pit.

      What Obama is proposing is MORE government induced cost fixing with a moderate amount of deception and a whole lot of promises devised to convince the naive that he can pull off a socializing of the american economic system through the backdoor, disguise as a health care initiative. All of this seems to be designed to gain the illegal alien voting block, and will secure another business to be unionized and consumed in inefficiency and graft.

      The DEMS would have come to the table with some of the Republican ideas if this was about HEALTH CARE.

      IT IS NOT.

      America is being corrupted and brainwashed into thinking "It can't happen here" in regards to an aggressive transformation into a Marxist state. Americans never used to allow themselves to be threatened either by Armies or by Politicians at home. What happened?

      Did we suddenly forget the lessons of Lenin, Mayo, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini that some one must die to make way for monetary success in socialism final trap??

    52. Blair, Franconia, NH says:

      If Obama's lost Warren Buffet, then he's in deep trouble. Why? Because Warren Buffet knows that Obamacare, like Clintoncare before it, won't, repeat, WON'T WORK! The American people aren't behind this bull—–I mean bill. If Queen Nancy

      thinks that the Democrats who are up for re-election will follow her on the political

      equivalents of the Charge of the Light Brigade, the Confederate charge up Little Round Top, and Pickett's Charge, then she's sadly mistaken. It's a no-brainer. Democrats who want to keep their seats, should vote with, not against, their constituents. WHAT WE DON'T NEED IS THE INCUMBENT PROTECTION CLUB!

      Remember this, Your Majesty, WE THE PEOPLE, WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!

    53. J.C. Hughes, Texas says:

      Kevin H. verbalized "That is what America is all about – majority rules~!~!". You obviously don't understand our founding charter, the U.S. Constitution. This document speaks out against majority rule. We are a nation of laws designed to protect the rights of individuals. Consumer choice, such as one's personal health care, happen to be an example of such right. In addition, the constitution actually prohibits federal power over private and/or public domestic services. That's a fact! I know this comes as a big disappointing surprise to the progressive left. Be darned glad we don't live by majority rule.

    54. robert jones golden says:

      IMPEACH OBAMA AND PELOSI

    55. Rick J says:

      Tim Kaine, DNC Chairman just said on Fox News that he believes the American People are behind ObamaCare and that the Dems will pull the Nuclear Option. Kaine admitted on National TV that they will do Reconciliation — These guys are so out of touch with the American Public, it's mind boggling.

    56. Brother Dave Annapol says:

      Gaining control of costs requires a move to global transparency in all aspects of health services and the insurance mechanisms used to finance them. Competitiveness must be increased at all levels of care and at each point consumers make decisions to seek services.

      This can only be accomplished with full disclosure of costs, quality of care received, better application of technology to impliment these — all designed to engage and empower the consumer in an easy to understand way. Such engagement would energize providers and insurers to compete honestly and openly for customers.

      The govt. can be involved in a Constituional way by helping to in effect set the "values of weights and measurements" without dictating or setting costs.

      They can do this by setting "units" of value for any given procedure or outcome anywhere in the country. In fact, Medicare is already doing exactly this in determining their rate of payment for services. Providers and insurers then simply post the number of units or the percentage of the "standard unit" they are willing to charge for services or accept as payment.

      In addition to helping set reasonable guidelines for costs (letting providers and consumers work within a range of these) the govt. can help by publishing data to consumers on care outcomes and unit costs for the same procedures. Govt. can also help by requiring adoption of universal/standardized claim forms and electronic submissions platforms. Health providers and insurers would both have to disclose what level of the "unit cost" for any procedure or service they will charge (if a providers) or pay out (if an insurer). Such disclosures would have to be upfront and in advance of any treatment or service provided.

      Going to a "unit cost" basis would also eliminate the costly and duplicative process of networks negotiating "discounts" with all the many health care networks and insurance companies. In such a system, each could adopt any level of participation from say 80% of standard unit costs to 120% of unit costs. Unit costs can also be adjusted by region of the country, as is done now. But this eliminates issues of "network participation" and the constant negotiations and contracting that providers, insurers and consumers must endure.

      Going to unit costs is not price fixing, but simply communicating to all parties involved what to expect on any given service or procedure. And it is important that all be charged the same for the same service – - – - no discrimination in favor of any one person, organization, etc.

      By bringing true global transparency as the basis for health reform, we can replace expensive govt. intervention with inexpensive standards and easy to understand regulations. This will allow the American health system to continue it's advances in excellence, retain innovation and make best use of technological innovations that only free enterprise can foster.

    57. James says:

      Currently, I am unemployed with no healthcare. Still I do not support the healthcare bill because it only demonstrates and promotes the corruption and bald-face liars the elite politicians and special interests are. They got you all fired-up and dumbed down to their way of thinking. The national debt, healthcare, national security, war, the economy. In reality while these theifs ensnare your minds with their false concerns for your well-being and cry their crocidile tears on your shoulders, literatly. They laugh and conspire against you while filling their couffers only to lie and conspire again, against you. Wake up !!!!!! Here is what their really all about:your nations wealth, your tax dollars that you own. Become educated to their fraud. The United States currently has a 80 trillion dollar surplus in monies.The (CAFR) Certified Annual Financial Report is what they don't want you to know about. Economics 101.

    58. Jerry Bateman, Ovied says:

      I have not heard anyone say that the increasing cost of health care is attributable to our aging population, the increasing value and cost of new medical technologies and certainly greater utilizaition of medical care in general. Let's not forget, that the older we become the more health care we will consume. Most Americans will not abandon their aging parents and grandparents. If your grandmother is 91 and in good health and she falls and breaks a hip, in America we will replace her hip so that she can retain her quality of life. In many other countries, she will not get the treatment she needs. It is called RATIONING! When it comes to medical technology, Americans want the best that money can buy. They do not want treatment that is outdated regardless of a lower cost. Americans expect the best. Our health care system has always focused on delivering the best. Lastly, thanks to HMO's, Americans have now accepted the idea that preventative care has value and it does. There is only one problem, preventative care does not save money, it costs money by increasing utilization of medical services, which increases mortality and the quality of life. Both are a significant benefit to all. There are many things that can be done to lower the cost of health care. The main thing we should do is get the government out of the way and focus on things that can be streamlined to lower the cost of health care delivery.

    59. Ben C. Ann Arbor, MI says:

      Its late in the day and I am tired. I absolutely am against government intervention in health care. Bad idea. However, I was taken back by Dr. Gupta on Fox News declaring a 1 liter bag of LRS cost $248.00 The wholesale cost (what I pay) is about $1.40. A package of suture material costs me about $2.00 and he listed it at $80.00. Something is amuck. Rather than the government "regulating" health care I suggest Fox News et al do some in depth investigative reporting to focus on wholesale costs for hospitals and why the make ups are so high. In all of the health care discussions I have not heard any discussions on the business side of health care – just a lot of blame being passed onto insurance companies. Sooner or later an interested third party will need to digest the business side of medicine to help consumers make better choices. The health care problem is complex and I doubt Congress is bright enough to understand it. After all, most have never run a business or even had a real job.

    60. Beverly Bradshaw, Fr says:

      Why has Obama changed his thoughts and policies from when he was on the campaign trail. He is heading America for a great fall and deep depression. Where is his mind. Surely not on helping the American people. Why is he so far out in left field. I hope someone can curb his way of running the presidency. Also make him produce his birth certificate and other pertinent documents he has refused to produce.

      Prefer not to have full name released.

    61. Peyton, a Libertaria says:

      Congress can't do anything SIMPLY!

      The solution to this problem is to do as the Republicans have demanded, and START OVER! There should be BI-PARTISAN effort towards REFORM, not ENTITLEMENTS. The first issue the Congress needs to address is TORTE REFORM, then serious work can be done finding a way to cover those less fortunate.

      BUT THE R IN HCR STANDS FOR REFORM!~!`!

    62. Lloyd Welch Valdese, says:

      Start over………..Start over,,..???//'';;[[[__)(*%%&^*$@@##$#.This should never have been started The Constitution says PROMOTE the general welfare. To anyone that this is unclear to here is a definition for promote.

      pro·mote [pr? m?t]

      (past pro·mot·ed, past participle pro·mot·ed, present participle pro·mot·ing, 3rd person present singular pro·motes)

      vt

      1. human resources advance in rank: to raise somebody to a more senior job or a higher position or rank

      2. support or encourage: to encourage the growth and development of something

      3. business advertise something: to publicize a product so that people will buy or rent it

      4. advance something: to further something by helping to arrange or introduce it

      5. chess exchange pawn for more powerful piece: in chess, to exchange a pawn for a more powerful piece, usually a queen, when it reaches an opponent’s end of the board

      [14th century. Formed from Latin promot- , the past participle stem of promovere “to move forward,” from movere “to move” (source of English move, motor, and moment).]

      -pro·mot·a·ble, adj

      Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

      This is the definition for provide. does anyone see the difference?

      pro·vide [pr? v?d]

      (past pro·vid·ed, past participle pro·vid·ed, present participle pro·vid·ing, 3rd person present singular pro·vides)

      v

      1. vt supply somebody with something: to supply somebody with or be a source of something needed or wanted

      2. vt make something available: to make something available to somebody

      3. vt law require something as a condition: to require something in advance as a condition or as part of a contract

      4. vi take precautions: to take precautions to prevent harm or bring about good

      5. vi supply means of support: to supply the material means of support for somebody

      provides for his children

      6. vt prepare something in advance: to get something ready in advance (archaic)

      [15th century. From Latin providere “to prepare in advance, supply,” literally “to see ahead,” from videre “to see.”]

      Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    63. John, New Jersey says:

      Sorry, but I can't get too excited here. Unless I misread, Mr. Buffet said he would take the Senate bill over our current healthcare system. Why would a free enterprise genious want to turn over 1/6 of the economy to a group of legislators?

    64. carlene wendel Ok says:

      Ozzie6900

      YOUR STATEMENT " THAT IF THEY COULDN'T AFFORD TO GO TO A DR., THEY COULD GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, AND THEY HAD TO TAKE CARE OF YOU" . WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS CALLED AN EMERGENCY ROOM.?? . IT IS BECAUSE IT IS FOR EMERGENCIES ONLY. THERE ARE FREE HEALTH DEPT'S AND CLINIC'S FOR THE ONES THAT CAN'T PAY. IF EVERYONE THAT COULDN'T PAY WENT TO THE E R, THE ONES THAT WERE HAVING A LIFE OR DEATH SITUATION, WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET TREATED. THAT COULD BE YOU SOMEDAY.. MOST EMERGENCIES ARE::: HIGH TEMP, HEART ATTACK, ACCIDENTS, UNCONSCIOUSNESS. . EVERYONE NEEDS A FAMILY PHYSICIAN, AND TRY TO WORK OUT PAYMENT PLAN WITH THEM. I WORKED IN THE ER FOR SOME TIME, AND WE WOULD GET SOME PEOPLE IN ALMOST WEEKLY WITH A BACKACHE / HEADACHE THAT THEY HAD BEEN SUFFERING WITH FOR A WEEK. THIS IS AN EMERGENCY??? MANY ON MEDICAID WOULD COME IN FOR SUCH MINOR THINGS MOST PEOPLE COULD TREAT AT HOME THEMSELVES… BUT IT WAS FREE TO THEM..AND LIKE ANYTHING FREE, IT GETS ABUSED… OUR HEALTH CARE ISN'T ALL AS BAD AS SOME THINK, IT IS THE ABUSE OF IT THAT HAS MADE IT BAD FOR ALL. IT JUST NEEDS THE FRAUD AND MIS-USE TAKEN OUT OF IT… MOST ER'S HAVE STOPPED TAKING CARE OF NON-EMERGENCY CASES AND REFER THE PATIENT TO THEIR FAMILY PHYSICIAN FOR THE NEXT DAY. DON'T GO GIVING ADVICE THAT YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED / AUTHORIZED TO GIVE…I'M SURE ALL HOSPITAL ER'S WILL THANK YOU FOR THAT ADVICE… NOW THEIR WAITING ROOMS WILL BE FILLED WITH NON-EMERGENCIES.

    65. Judith, Louisiana says:

      My family wants the federal goverment out of our lives. Our goverment run school systems are a complete failure, don't blame the teachers, Our postal service is good but broke, all the programs or pork barrel projects the federal goverment is spending $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on and I'm sure the projects are costing more than that are bankrupting our Country & most are not needed, then we have age old companies that we Americans have made "GREAT" leaving the United States to relocate in countries where people are paid next to nothing & this leaves Americans out of jobs. Then what does the federal goverment do? I'll tell you, the age old companies made great by Americans are allowed to import the now foreign made products to the United States with hardly any import tax thanks to the federal goverment and we are forced to buy this junk! Don't get me started on our tax dollars that the federal goverment is bailing out these huge banks, credit institutions and Almighty God knows what else. (ceo's) Now the federal goverment wants to run Americas health care system. Goverment spends jillions of dollars on these big talk & talk plans, and yes United States Citizens we are allowing it to continue day after day! I'm sick to death of Obamas health care plan. This goverment can't even take care of the medicare plan for the elderly. The same American Citizens that made this country great. I say that the federal goverment should concentrate on defending America. Remember now that is what the goverment is obligated to do. Protect this country by protecting all the Brave American Soldiers by giving them the tools to get their job done and get out of Asia and Africa. Now that's the only job the federal goverment should be involved in.

    66. Elsie Hutton - San M says:

      This is a really clear and concise explanation of the health care crisis and the proposals of all the players. We need reform, but the Obama Plan is dead wrong… We need a panel of about 12, a couple of Dems, a couple of Reps, an insurance representative, a hospital rep, a couple of doctors and some ordinary citizens who are in the trenches. Give them the support they need to come up with a proposal that does not raise the deficit, and that we can all support.

      Thanks for a great article!

    67. Katie Dr says:

      Public Option is Kenyan Communism! When the libs that covered up the illigitmate Presidency of Obama are revealed, most dems will be up on treason charges like BO. NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE, NOT PRESIDENT. It's that simple. If B. Hussein had a birth certificate, why doesn't he just show it? Think about it. Stop the spending! Attend a TEA Party Rally! PALIN 2012!

    68. CORKY, Howey in the says:

      Mr. obama's true agenda is showing. He wants to be a "DICTATOR" (yes, I said it!) He is FORCING us to take whatever He and the REST OF CONGRESS thinks is good for us…Him. People like pelosi, reid, dodd and many more on the left side of the isle are just giddy with stupidity and SHOW IT by the way they are voting for a healthcare that is not wanted by the PEOPLE! Obama is a one term president and MANY of the demo-rats will also be losing their jobs as well. IF they pass the bill then we as a PEOPLE should just ignor it. Can't throw 300 million people in jail……….

    69. Rod McDowell ,Pueblo says:

      Mr. Buffet is right but we must somewhere if we are going to attack health problems. I believe we must reel in the insurance industry now.

    70. William Person says:

      CUT SPENDING, CUT SPENDING, CUT SPENDING, NOTHING BUT CUT SPENDING!!!

      EVERYONE GOT THAT? SO NOW …

      CUT SPENDING, CUT SPENDING, CUT SPENDING, NOTHING BUT CUT SPENDING!!!

      So now on your own—-

    71. Jeanne Stotler,Woodb says:

      Yesterday I went to get a Bible given me when my husband died, I wanted my grandson, his namesake to have it, I have our family bible, . When I took this Bible out of the dresser drawer a paper fell out, it was the account of my husbands stay in a local hospital. He was hospitalized for 8 days, admitted through the ER with having a TIA and a heart attack. The WHOLE bill for the 8 days in a semi private room incl all meds, EKG's etc came to $829.05, I had to pay out of pocket $5.25 for the phone, the cost today are way out of line. Of course as a nurse back then I would have made less than a tenth of what nurses make today, but then I fed a family of 10 on less than $150.00 a week, my mortgage was about $200. amonth for a victorian style house, oil was less than.30 a gal to heat this house, largest winter would cost about $300. This is to show how much cost has risen but life styes are not better, we paid less than $30,000 for this house today the same house would sell around a millionl. Everything has gotten bigger but not in proportion and BHO wants to make it even worse.

    72. Dale Cord says:

      THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THE INSANITY THAT IS COMING OUT OF WASHINGTON DC, IS FOR OUR MILITARY TO INTERVENE ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THE PRESENT ADMINISTRATION FROM THE PRESIDENT ON DOWN TO THE SUPREME COURT, WHICH INCLUDES THE CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED AND PROSECUTED FOR TREASON AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES AND OUR GOVERNING CONSTITUTION!

    73. Joseph Sutton, Brook says:

      Instead of a government takeover, all you need to do is the following to start getting good results:

      Allow purchasing of insurance across state lines, from many more companies, thus increasing competition, and significantly reducing premium costs. This would open access to millions of people, simply through the free market.

      Tort Reform. Limit damage awards against doctors. This will bring premiums down, and avoid the practice of defensive medicine and ordering unnecessary tests, which drives premiums up.

      Eliminate Paper and switch to electronic records and filing. This alone will save 10% on premiums and other costs according to experts.

      Cannot deny insurance or drop insurance with respect to someone who is insured but then gets sick.

      Cannot deny issuing a policy to someone with a preexisting condition. A policy must be issued, although a higher premium is acceptable due to higher risk.

      Half of the 45 million without insurance fall into the following: 1) 18-30 year olds who can afford it but voluntarily choose not to have it since they feel invincible; 2) Those who can afford it but voluntarily choose not to pay for it. So really it’s closer to 20 million people, out of 300 million Americans, who truly cannot get access to insurance. That’s about 7% of the population. 93% already have coverage. While there is a problem with about 7% of our fellow Americans not having access, the problem for the other 93% of Americans is the high premium costs, which keep increasing yearly at a rate more than triple the rate of inflation, and well beyond the rate of American’s income .

    74. Willie P. Smith, Har says:

      This Administration doesn't care what the people want or say.

      Remember, we are dummies. Obama, Pelosi and Reed know

      what is best for us.

    75. Tenn Slim Tennessee says:

      Opine

      I have and will, continue to contact key Senators, Representatives across the USA re the Deficit, HC, and key spending legislation.

      bt

      By noting the USA ELECTORATE in every memo, the response generaly has been with their feet. Many have chosen to not run, to retire. They are beginning to "get the message".

      bt

      It does help to voice your Opines, as we here in Tenn like to say.

      We Will Prevail come November 2010

      Semper Fi

    76. Phyllis, Tx says:

      It is all so ridiculous. It is evil. It is against the Constitution to force the American people to this health care. We know it is not about healthcare, it is about greed, power and proving they do not believe the Constitution or care about "we the people".

      Humans with brains, lacking by the way of the "3 stooges" Pelosi, Reid and Obama know and realize what this bill is all about, taking over America and transforming it to be a 3rd world country, not exactly what the Founding Fathers planned and NOT WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT!!!!!!!!!! I am 75 and a widow but I am well read and know exactly what is going on, and more speeches by Obama does not change my mind, I think there have been around 40 speeches by him on healthcare. Mr Obama is a distinct president with instincts that stink. How's that?

    77. elenore,michigan says:

      You do realize Obama was trying to bail out Boomers who gave away their S.S. out to Rich tax cuts and 2 wars under Bush right.Every day Boomers are dying and the younger generations hate you literally hate you for sell out your country to Communist slave state,Capitalist,Oil dependence,etc…He's trying to cover you using younger people to pay into the system because in 10 years your kids and grand kids are going to reduce your benefits for both.Boomers are draining this country dry.And the mass Boomer retirement hasn't even started yet.Your taxing children future now to pay for Boomer mistakes while you steal from their educational systems.Keep fighting Obama.It will happen either you reform health care costs now or your children will cut you off later your choice Boomers.Why would you trust capitalists to inform you about health care.I don't want federal health care but I don't want Corporate Welfare or Tax free entities either.We either be Free Business or Socialists but the way we try melting the 2 together is whats the real problem.We have adopted the worst part about Socialism and Free market regulations it isn't working and not just for health care but basically all our businesses.

    78. elenore,michigan says:

      I agree I want the STATE GOVERNMENTS TO MANDATE HEALTH CARE NOT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.They haven't done anything right in years.Federal Congress is a mess.

    79. GEORGE Swallow says:

      Health Care change is already happening, Two caller to the Hannity show told him

      their Doctors had Medicare cut the allowable charge 20% making it impossible to work in their office.This means all Medicare patients must pay the missing 20%.

      We deduct the amount from taxes but this is still a new tax cost to the nation, Only Solution..impeach him.

    80. Paul Greene says:

      I have met many people out of work. They have Healthcare "ACCESS" Arizona has a program in place. It works, why CHANGE it???

    81. Paul Greene Payson A says:

      I have met many People down on there luck. They have Medical, Its called ACCSES Arizona has a plan thats working,Why change it??

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    83. Richard E. Poulin Jr says:

      We need to end this madness of our law makers going against our wishes. I would like to see something done, Tort Reform, elimination of fraud and insurance companies free to do business anywhere in the United States. These small steps would be more than what is needed as far as legislation. The other aspect is get people to quit sucking on the breast of the U.S. government and go out and become a productive member of society! The only thing that comes from providing something for nothing is providing even more for nothing! This mess that is in the House and Senate needs to be buried and forgotton!

    84. Dale Cord says:

      Anatomy of a Failing Presidency

      Barack Obama is on track to have the most spectacularly failed presidency

      since Woodrow Wilson. In the modern era, we've seen several failed

      presidencies–led by Jimmy Carter and LBJ. Failed presidents have one strong common trait– they are repudiated, in the vernacular, spat out. Of course, LBJ wisely took the exit ramp early, avoiding a shove into oncoming traffic by his

      own party. Richard Nixon indeed resigned in disgrace, yet his reputation as a

      statesman has been partially restored by his triumphant overture to China 20.

      But, Barack Obama is failing. Failing big. Failing fast. And failing

      everywhere: foreign policy, domestic initiatives, and most importantly, in

      forging connections with the American people.

      The incomparable Dorothy Rabinowitz in the Wall Street Journal put her finger on it: He is failing because he has no understanding of the American people, and may indeed loathe them.

      Fred Barnes of the Weekly Standard says he is failing because he has lost

      control of his message, and is overexposed.

      Clarice Feldman of American Thinker produced a dispositive commentary showing that Obama is failing because fundamentally he is neither smart nor articulate; his intellectual dishonesty is conspicuous by its audacity and lack of shame.

      But, there is something more seriously wrong: How could a new president riding in on a wave of unprecedented promise and goodwill have forfeited his tenure and become a lame duck in six months? His poll ratings are in free fall. In generic balloting, the Republicans have now seized a five point advantage. This truly is unbelievable. What's going on?

      No narrative. Obama doesn't have a narrative. No, not a narrative about

      himself. He has a self-narrative, much of it fabricated, cleverly disguised or

      written by someone else. But this self-narrative is isolated and doesn't

      connect with us. He doesn't have an American narrative that draws upon the rest of us.

      All successful presidents have a narrative about the American character

      that intersects with their own where they display a command of history and

      reveal an authenticity at the core of their personality that resonates in a

      positive endearing way with the majority of Americans.

      We admire those presidents whose narratives not only touch our own, but who seem stronger, wiser, and smarter than we are. Presidents we admire are aspirational peers, even those whose politics don't align exactly with our own: Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Harry Truman, Ike, and Reagan.

      But not this president. It's not so much that he's a phony, knows nothing

      about economics, and is historically illiterate and woefully small minded for

      the size of the task–all contributory of course. It's that he's not one of

      us.

      And, whatever he is, his profile is fuzzy and devoid of content, like a

      cardboard cutout made from delaminated corrugated paper. Moreover, he doesn't command our respect and is unable to appeal to our own common sense. His notions of right and wrong are repugnant and how things work just don't add up. They are not existential. His descriptions of the world we live in don't make sense and don't correspond with our experience.

      In the meantime, while we've been struggling to take a measurement of this man, he's dissed just about every one of us –financiers, energy producers, banks, insurance executives, police officers, doctors, nurses, hospital administrators, post office workers, and anybody else who has a non-green job.

      Expect Obama to lament at his last press conference in 2012: "For those of you I offended, I apologize. For those of you who were not offended, you just didn't give me enough time; if only I'd had a second term, I could have offended you too."

      Mercifully, the Founders at the Constitutional Convention in 1787 devised

      a useful remedy for such a desperate state–staggered terms for both houses of the legislature and the executive. An equally abominable Congress can get voted out next year. With a new Congress, there's always hope of legislative gridlock until we vote for president again two short years after that.

      Yes, small presidents do fail, Barack Obama among them. The coyotes howl but the wagon train keeps rolling along.

      Margaret Thatcher: "The trouble with Socialism is, sooner or later you run

      out of other people's money."

      "When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both." – James

      Dale Davidson, National Taxpayers Union

      "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus

      "A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own." – Unknown

    85. Dale Cord says:

      Neil Sankey, a former British policeman who’s now a licensed private investigator in Los Angeles, initiated a preliminary background investigation of Barack Obama and uncovered 49 addresses and 16 different Social Security numbers.

      Forty-nine different addresses? Sixteen different Social Security numbers? That’s beyond bizarre.

      At the Illinois addresses listed for Obama, two Social Security numbers appear with frequency. One begins with the number 042… the other begins with the number 364.

      The Social Security number beginning with 042 was issued in Connecticut… even though Obama apparently never lived or worked in Connecticut.

      One can only ask why? Is the President of the United States a victim of ID fraud? Or, is something else entirely going on?

      More Questions Than Answers.

      Sankey, who discovered the many addresses and Social Security numbers suggests what we may be facing:

      “I have personally experienced many, many cases where such information has led to subsequent exposure of fraud, deception, money laundering and other crimes.”

      Let’s be perfectly clear… we are not saying that Obama has a criminal past. We are not saying that Barack Obama has committed any crime.

      We are, however, saying that what Sankey has uncovered demands… begs for… further investigation.

      But don't hold your breath waiting for anyone in the liberal media to take the bull by the horns.

      Don’t wait around for the liberal media to ask Obama if he really lived at all the addresses that Sankey found, or why 16 different Social Security numbers pop up under Obama's name at these 49 addresses. Remember, this is the same liberal media that will not ask Barack Obama why he refuses to produce a valid birth certificate.

      Let's face it: the liberal media won’t investigate the strange facts surrounding Barack Hussein Obama. That's up to patriotic Americans like you and me.

      The Western Center for Journalism is willing and able to take on that responsibility… but investigating these and other such matters takes time and money… and that's why we need your help.

      More Questions Than Answers.

      Let's just examine one of those questions.

      In an exclusive investigative report for the Western Center for Journalism, former California legislator, Steven Baldwin writes:

      “After Obama was elected to the United States Senate in 2005, he moved into an apartment at 300 Massachusetts Ave NW; the Social Security number attached to that address is the 042 one. Yet, three years later, Obama used a different Social Security number for an address listed as: 713 Hart Senate Office Building… the address of his United States Senate office. This Social Security number began with 282 and was verified by the government in 2008.”

      Will Obama clear up this strange situation up for us? Don’t hold your breath: the more hard questions Americans ask, the more Obama clams up.

      Will the liberal media – also known as the OAS, or the Obama Adoration Society – investigate the matter?

      Don't count on it. This is the same liberal media that derisively calls those who ask the important questions: “teabaggers” … or “birthers” … or “deniers.”

      In short, the liberal media ignores the problems and attacks the messengers.

      The Western Center for Journalism has done ground-breaking research into the parts of Obama’s life that he wants to keep under wraps.

      With your financial support, we can shed journalistic light on areas of Obama’s life that he would prefer remain in the dark.

      We don’t know precisely where our research will lead, but we know that it must be done.

      And we need your help.

      He's A Real Nowhere Man.

      Remember the old Beetle's song “Nowhere Man?”

      He’s a real nowhere man

      Sitting in his Nowhere land

      Making all his nowhere plans

      For nobody

      Doesn’t have a point of view

      Knows not where he’s going to…

      Of course, Obama is not "a bit like you and me" … an examination of his life reverals a series of endless questions… and no answers.

      Baldwin again:

      “The president who campaigned for a more ‘open government’ and ‘full disclosure’ will not unseal his medical records, his school records, his birth records or his passport records. He will not release his Harvard records, his Columbia College records, or his Occidental College records—he will not even release his Columbia College thesis. All his legislative records from the Illinois State Senate are missing, and he claims his scheduling records during those State Senate years are lost as well. In addition, no one can find his school records for the elite K-12 college prep school, Punahou School, he attended in Hawaii.”

      As Baldwin indicates, the man who now leads what we used to call the free world has refused to share any relevant information about his life. He might as well have descended here from another planet.

      Some people frankly wonder if he’s not a real-life version of the“Manchurian Candidate,” someone programmed by others to do serious damage to the U.S.

      Is that an outlandish view, given Obama’s life-long attachments to various radicals, including: his early Communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis, domestic terrorists William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, Muslin fanatic Rashid Khalidi, and crazed preacher Jeremiah Wright?

      Is that an outlandish view, considering the various self-admitted Marxists and extreme leftists hand-picked to serve in the Obama Administration, including disgraced “green jobs czar” Van Jones… Chavez-admiring Communication Czar Mark Lloyd… and Mao-admirer and manufacturing Czar Ron Bloom?

      Obama is not only a bad president. He’s a dangerous one… and getting information about Obama is worse than pulling teeth.

      As Baldwin puts it: “Everywhere one looks into Obama’s background, we find sealed records, scrubbed websites, altered documents, deception and unanswered questions.”

      However, with your financial assistance, the Western Center for Journalism will tirelessly look for the answers to the questions that Obama won’t answer. We'll tackle the crucial questions the liberal media refuses to ask.

      Who exactly is this man? And what’s he really up to? Exactly what are you – Barack Hussein Obama – hiding from the American people?

      Call him the Man Behind the Mask . . . call him The Great Impostor . . . call him The Worst Thing That’s Ever Happened to the American Presidency… call him whatever you like… but one thing is certain.

      Barack Obama is a man who holds many secrets… secrets that, if uncovered, might be fatal to his presidency.

      At the Western Center for Journalism, we want to unlock those secrets.

      And we need your help.

      Floyd Brown

      Western Center for Journalism

      P.S. Even if you can not join us in this effort right now, you can still help us expose Barack Hussein Obama by sending this e-mail to at least 10 of your friends.

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