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		<title>By: The Science Behind Global Warming Not So "Irrefutable" &#124; The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/04/climate-change-scientific-consensus-cloudy-as-ever/#comment-89927</link>
		<dc:creator>The Science Behind Global Warming Not So "Irrefutable" &#124; The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the IPCC report.  These include everything from misreporting critical dates, sloppy sourcing—including the use of anecdotal evidence from mountain climbers and a student’s dissertation &#8211; to the erroneous assertion that 55% of the Netherlands is below sea levels, when only 26% [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the IPCC report.  These include everything from misreporting critical dates, sloppy sourcing—including the use of anecdotal evidence from mountain climbers and a student’s dissertation &#8211; to the erroneous assertion that 55% of the Netherlands is below sea levels, when only 26% [...]</p>
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		<title>By: david==goergia</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/04/climate-change-scientific-consensus-cloudy-as-ever/#comment-87908</link>
		<dc:creator>david==goergia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>climate change is a progressive euphemism for daily events that are a part of the natural phenomenon  of creating a climate by amassing a continuum  of collective relative data to draw a scientific conclusion; which is exactly what the scientists in england [UN ] DID NOT DO. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>climate change is a progressive euphemism for daily events that are a part of the natural phenomenon  of creating a climate by amassing a continuum  of collective relative data to draw a scientific conclusion; which is exactly what the scientists in england [UN ] DID NOT DO.</p>
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		<title>By: david==goergia</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/04/climate-change-scientific-consensus-cloudy-as-ever/#comment-87905</link>
		<dc:creator>david==goergia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cap-n-trade my bootie;; where is grease-man &quot;al gore&quot;? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cap-n-trade my bootie;; where is grease-man &quot;al gore&quot;?</p>
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		<title>By: david==goergia</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/04/climate-change-scientific-consensus-cloudy-as-ever/#comment-87904</link>
		<dc:creator>david==goergia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>climate change is another debacle perpetrated by this idiotic potus. obumbler is a frog out of his environment. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>climate change is another debacle perpetrated by this idiotic potus. obumbler is a frog out of his environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Craig, Glasgow,</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/04/climate-change-scientific-consensus-cloudy-as-ever/#comment-87124</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Craig, Glasgow,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, or indeed naybody like minded, if you claim the consensus is real you should be able to answwer this. I have asked journalists, politicians &amp; alarmist lobbyists now totalling in the thousands to name 2 prominent scientists, not funded by government or an alarmist lobby who have said that we are seeing a catastrophic degree of warming &amp; none of them have yet been able to do so. I extend this same invitation here.  
  
There is not &amp; never was a genuine scientific consensus on this, though scientists seeking government funds have been understandably reluctant to speak. If there were anything approaching a consensus it would, with over 31,000 scientists having signed the Oregon petition saying it is bunk, it would be easy to find a similar number of independent scientists saying it was true, let alone 2. The whole thing depends on a very small number of people &amp; a massive government publicity machine, both very well funded by the innocent taxpayer. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, or indeed naybody like minded, if you claim the consensus is real you should be able to answwer this. I have asked journalists, politicians &amp; alarmist lobbyists now totalling in the thousands to name 2 prominent scientists, not funded by government or an alarmist lobby who have said that we are seeing a catastrophic degree of warming &amp; none of them have yet been able to do so. I extend this same invitation here. </p>
<p>There is not &amp; never was a genuine scientific consensus on this, though scientists seeking government funds have been understandably reluctant to speak. If there were anything approaching a consensus it would, with over 31,000 scientists having signed the Oregon petition saying it is bunk, it would be easy to find a similar number of independent scientists saying it was true, let alone 2. The whole thing depends on a very small number of people &amp; a massive government publicity machine, both very well funded by the innocent taxpayer.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbie Jay</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/04/climate-change-scientific-consensus-cloudy-as-ever/#comment-87060</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobbie Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, my goodness, don&#039;t you see? This country is entering into a government induced free fall! There is absolutely nothing mankind can or has done to change the earth&#039;s climate! The sky is not falling. But if there&#039;s a chance, nothing mankind puts money into is going to stop it! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, my goodness, don&#039;t you see? This country is entering into a government induced free fall! There is absolutely nothing mankind can or has done to change the earth&#039;s climate! The sky is not falling. But if there&#039;s a chance, nothing mankind puts money into is going to stop it!</p>
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		<title>By: TonyfromOz Coomera Q</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/04/climate-change-scientific-consensus-cloudy-as-ever/#comment-87058</link>
		<dc:creator>TonyfromOz Coomera Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all this debate about the melting of &#039;Sea Ice&#039;, has everyone forgotten &#039;Archimedes Principle&#039;. 
All the &#039;Sea Ice&#039; can melt for all its worth. It will not raise the levels of the oceans. 
Only melting ice that is already on a land mass can add to the level of Oceanic waters. 
If the Average temperature in the Antarctic never reaches 0C or 32F, then that ice cannot melt. The outer levels of the ice sheets are already in the water, as they are in the Arctic. As the ice melts, it cannot raise the level of the water it is already in. 
That&#039;s not &#039;Deep&#039; Science&#039;. It&#039;s High School Science, that somewhere along the road, we were all told. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all this debate about the melting of &#039;Sea Ice&#039;, has everyone forgotten &#039;Archimedes Principle&#039;.</p>
<p>All the &#039;Sea Ice&#039; can melt for all its worth. It will not raise the levels of the oceans.</p>
<p>Only melting ice that is already on a land mass can add to the level of Oceanic waters.</p>
<p>If the Average temperature in the Antarctic never reaches 0C or 32F, then that ice cannot melt. The outer levels of the ice sheets are already in the water, as they are in the Arctic. As the ice melts, it cannot raise the level of the water it is already in.</p>
<p>That&#039;s not &#039;Deep&#039; Science&#039;. It&#039;s High School Science, that somewhere along the road, we were all told.</p>
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		<title>By: John B. San Diego</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/04/climate-change-scientific-consensus-cloudy-as-ever/#comment-87010</link>
		<dc:creator>John B. San Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Loris, I have decided. 
After reading many of the links provided in this and other articles. If the (Anthropogenic Global Warming) proponents want to discredit skeptics of their theory, here is what they should do and accomplish this with true scientific accuracy and flawless documentation. 
Fund and recognize on a totally level plane, the skeptics themselves.  
That says equal acquisition to grants, equal access to current data and documents, put the media on notice too, give equal time on both sides of the scientific debate, and encourage the researchers (Scientists) to quit throwing daggers at each other. 
They (Scientists) are now equal and should not be influenced by the anticipated funding from powers that be for their science endeavor, or the politics of recognition coming in to play with regard to the documented findings of research.  
They should be familiar with &quot;PEER REVIEW&quot; it is not new, it&#8217;s scientific... 
 
You understand there is a built in bias with regard to real credible climate research because the political and media entities are fixated on a goal. 
For God&#039;s sake Mr. Loris on our best day National Weather Service using the &quot;GFS&quot; ,the &quot;ECMWF&quot;&amp;&quot;NAM&#8221; Models ; current observations, aircraft soundings , current radar images, spotter reports on the ground, ships reports and the forecasters routinely will not lock in forecasts in a specific area any more than three days out. 
 
So, there are some variables rational minds should contemplate before we jump off the cliff on either side of this Grand Canyon of differing interests, political persuasion, or scientific evidence, and last but not least economic consequence; whether the is consequences are &quot;Intended or Unintended!&#8221; 
 
I&#039;ll shut-up and go away now, but before I do, I must remind everyone on both sides the fate of one skeptic we all know well, he was placed under house arrest for being a skeptic....&quot;GALILEO GALILEI&quot; 1564-1642!  
The TRUTH is out THERE...FIND IT! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Loris, I have decided.</p>
<p>After reading many of the links provided in this and other articles. If the (Anthropogenic Global Warming) proponents want to discredit skeptics of their theory, here is what they should do and accomplish this with true scientific accuracy and flawless documentation.</p>
<p>Fund and recognize on a totally level plane, the skeptics themselves. </p>
<p>That says equal acquisition to grants, equal access to current data and documents, put the media on notice too, give equal time on both sides of the scientific debate, and encourage the researchers (Scientists) to quit throwing daggers at each other.</p>
<p>They (Scientists) are now equal and should not be influenced by the anticipated funding from powers that be for their science endeavor, or the politics of recognition coming in to play with regard to the documented findings of research. </p>
<p>They should be familiar with &quot;PEER REVIEW&quot; it is not new, it&rsquo;s scientific&#8230;</p>
<p>You understand there is a built in bias with regard to real credible climate research because the political and media entities are fixated on a goal.</p>
<p>For God&#039;s sake Mr. Loris on our best day National Weather Service using the &quot;GFS&quot; ,the &quot;ECMWF&quot;&amp;&quot;NAM&rdquo; Models ; current observations, aircraft soundings , current radar images, spotter reports on the ground, ships reports and the forecasters routinely will not lock in forecasts in a specific area any more than three days out.</p>
<p>So, there are some variables rational minds should contemplate before we jump off the cliff on either side of this Grand Canyon of differing interests, political persuasion, or scientific evidence, and last but not least economic consequence; whether the is consequences are &quot;Intended or Unintended!&rdquo;</p>
<p>I&#039;ll shut-up and go away now, but before I do, I must remind everyone on both sides the fate of one skeptic we all know well, he was placed under house arrest for being a skeptic&#8230;.&quot;GALILEO GALILEI&quot; 1564-1642! </p>
<p>The TRUTH is out THERE&#8230;FIND IT!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert, Canada</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/04/climate-change-scientific-consensus-cloudy-as-ever/#comment-86996</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert, Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right wing thinktanks are not experts on climate, so stop citing them? If you want to talk about independance than take your information from groups not affiliated with oil companies or green industries. I think you have no right, or intellectual capacity to dictate to others the effects or existance of climate change. IF you would like some real information, you have my email. Otherwise dont post if you&#039;re incorrect. Why mention the Himilayan gaff? You do realise the IPCC was incredibly wrong in assuming that the antarctic ice losses wouldnt exist. Why not talk about that mistake? and how antarctica is now joining greenland as the leading contributors to sea level rise. What a shock that would be omitted. Not surprising that you would show one side of an argument. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right wing thinktanks are not experts on climate, so stop citing them? If you want to talk about independance than take your information from groups not affiliated with oil companies or green industries. I think you have no right, or intellectual capacity to dictate to others the effects or existance of climate change. IF you would like some real information, you have my email. Otherwise dont post if you&#039;re incorrect. Why mention the Himilayan gaff? You do realise the IPCC was incredibly wrong in assuming that the antarctic ice losses wouldnt exist. Why not talk about that mistake? and how antarctica is now joining greenland as the leading contributors to sea level rise. What a shock that would be omitted. Not surprising that you would show one side of an argument.</p>
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