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  • Let’s Make a Deal: Immigration Reform

    So why don’t President Barack Obama and Speaker Nancy Pelosi want to allow CSPAN to televise the final health care negotiations? What deals are being made to secure the votes necessary to pass a plan that vast majorities of the American public are against?

    TPM reports that Democratic lawmakers who were upset that illegal immigrants would not be allowed to participate in the new health care system may vote for final passage of a merged bill, “so long as the White House offers a substantive promise to start pushing comprehensive immigration legislation this year.”

    “Those familiar with the talks say any immigration legislation will include various amnesty provisions to allow for health care coverage,” TPM notes.

    Not only would there be a “substantive promise” from the Obama administration to take up sweeping immigration reform this year, but there also could be a promise from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to include an amendment in the final health care bill that would eliminate a five-year waiting period that currently is imposed on legal, naturalized immigrants before they can receive Medicaid benefits, according to The New Republic.

    This potential deal follows a long list of other sweetheart arrangements that Reid and other members have worked out to keep on-the-fence Democrats in-step with passing Obamacare.

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    33 Responses to Let’s Make a Deal: Immigration Reform

    1. Truth says:

      The real truth is never told by anyone because Truth has 3 sides, My side, Your Side and Gods side. When are we humans going to stop putting Almighty Gods Children down regardless of place of birth, race, faith, color or creed.

      Stop the foolish ignorant hate and see our nation prosper.

      What would you see yourself as if you were looking thru the Eyes of Almighty GOD ?

      BECAUSE,

      How you Treat others is how God TREATS You.

      How you Forgive others is how god FORGIVES You.

      How you See others is how God SEEs You.

      When you show Empathy for the plight of another HUMAN BEING, God takes empathy in YOUR PLIGHT.

      When others slight you and you ignore the call to Vengeance that burns inside, God erases all memory of your failures towards him.

      When you SEE THE IMAGE OF GOD in ANOTHER HUMAN BEING, Then the IMAGE of GOD Becomes REVEALED WITHIN YOU.

      The way You Judge other HUMANS is HOW GOD Judges You.

      All Humans are EQUAL, ALL Humans are created and are the same in Almighty GODS VISION.

      What You wish for the other is what GOD Gives YOU.

      STOP THE FOOLISH HATE TOWARDS GODS CHILDREN, ONE DAY WE WILL ALL STAND BEFORE ALMIGHTY AND BE ASKED WHY DID YOU HATE MY OTHER CHILDREN / CREATIONS?/ YOUBETTR HAVE A GRETA ANSWER.

      GOOD LUCK, GOD BLESS YOU , YOURS AND ALL HUMANITY.

    2. Steve Shirk Alanta, says:

      Is there no end to what these demwit socialists will inflict upon us?

    3. Julie B says:

      This is the ONE issue that will sever my Democratic roots.

      18% of Americans can not find full time employment and employers are cutting our wages.

      What in the heck do these Dem's think will happen when they flood the job market with millions of additional workers.

      Enforce our immigration laws, fire Napolitano and ask agian us in a few years.

      NO AMNESTY!

    4. Bobbie Jay says:

      only evil uses power to hide.

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    7. Jerry J, Omaha says:

      Buying votes. Blackmailing for votes. Threats for votes.

      Talk about Negative Politics. Behind Closed Doors.

      What does immigration Amnesty, legal or illegal, have to do with Health Care for American Citizens. Trying to buy "political support" who will do anything legal or illegally to get public votes and recruiting etc. for Democratic Party.

      This is a sad commentary on American Government at its Underhanded worst.

    8. Mike P, Texas says:

      Everyone always asks "What can I do?" The answer to that is: begin working immediately in organizing your street, neighborhood and precinct. It does not matter how many letters you write, phone calls you make or protests you go to unless you get your neighbors and fellow precinct members educated and to the polls. If you fail to capture the vote nothing else matters. We look forward to seeing everyone at the National Conservative Symposium in San Antonio January 22-24.

      Mike
      http://www.teapartysupport.com

    9. susan, ks says:

      Truth from above. God hates a liar. Illegals break the law on every level, that is lying. Reagan, Bush & Clinton all gave Amnesty. No more amnesty!

    10. PPotter, New Jersey says:

      Dear Truth,

      I don't think anyone is trying "to put Almighty God's children down." We are talking about God's children who have broken laws. We have legal ways of entering a country and becoming "legal" citizens entitled to all the benefits of this great country as well as participating in the tax paying system.

    11. Lwesson, Tejas says:

      "TRUTH" has put on GOD PANTS and now by God, tells us what to think. I wonder, just wonder how compassionate "TRUTH" is with those that are immediately around him. My personal experience with a liberal self righteous person was that she could tell me and the world what we should be doing but her own standards were what she decided that they would be from day to day being a self labeled, "Queen of the Universe".

      "TRUTH" really expands health care to a truly UNIVERSAL way for all the inhabitants of the Planet Earth at the expense of The United States. Perhaps wearing GOD PANTS makes mere mortals delusional. Obama must have a pair himself!

    12. Lloyd Scallan - New says:

      Can someone please tell me what is TRUTH writing about? Is TRUTH suggesting that all of God's childern are entitled to be allowed to enter and remain in the US, regardess of whether or not

      they are legal? And if we don't allow them to stay

      illegally, then God will get mad as us. Is TRUTH suggesting that by allowing illegals into this country will help this country prosper, when there are several million "AMERICANS" out of jobs that cannot "prosper" because their is not enough good jobs available. TRUTH is a prime example of

      a true socialist that uses God as an excuse to

      justify his/her ideology. I'll bet TRUTH voted

      for Obama.

    13. Dennis A. Social Cir says:

      The dems and obama are willing to forget the laws of the land to be re-elected. Power and controll is all they want. The illegals need to go back to where ever they come from, if they want to be in this country do it the right way and they will be welcomed.

    14. Duncan Bishop says:

      It is amazing how arrogant those in DC are. Here are some steps for us to take in 2010.

      We need to get a Senator to introduce this bill in the U.S. Senate and a Representative to introduce a similar bill in the U.S. House. If done, these people will become America's heros.

      Congressional Reform Act of 2010

      1. Lifetime term Limits: 12 years only, one of the possible options below.

      A. Two, Six year Senate terms

      B. Six, Two year House terms

      C. One Six year Senate term and three Two Year House terms

      2. No Tenure / No Pension:

      A congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

      3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security:

      All funds in the Congressional retirement fund moves to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, Congress participates with the American people.

      4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan just as all Americans do.

      5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

      6. Congress looses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

      7. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people and the American people will enjoy the same laws as those in Congress.

      8. All contracts with past and present congressmen and congresswomen are void effective 1/1/2011.

      The American people did not make ant of these contracts with Congress, Congress made all these contracts for themselves.

      Remember that serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

    15. Mike in Missouri says:

      Once again, the Dems show no respect for the rule of law. They don't seem to grasp what the word "illegal" means.

      Whether it is a public option:

      (it is "illegal" for the government to compete directly against private industry)

      . . .or immigration:

      (anyone here in the country without the proper papers or beyond the period they've been given permission is an "illegal" alien)

      Democrats and other left-leaning lawmakers continue to turn a blind eye on what is clearly "illegal".

      If any of us were found to be in another country illegally — we would be immediately detained and shown the border. Some countries even show-up at the place you're staying on the day your visa expires and make sure you are leaving (if you haven't already left beforehand).

    16. yes says:

      those those american citizens willing to go pick strawberries for 12 hours a day bent over, cut lettuce, etc and all for 8 bucks an hour without any benefits, by all means please go take the job.

      Try and understand that most of immigrants come looking for a better life, america was founded by people fleeing from perscution. Yes they need to do it following the laws, so lets focus on making laws that allow families and hard working, honest people come and help build the economy, just like all of our ancestors did.

    17. Eric Potter Nashvill says:

      Dear Truth,

      I am not sure what your point is. I will make the assumption that you believe those opposing immigration reform are breaking God's law. From my understanding, God directs us to follow the laws of the land in which we live if it does not oppose his law. Please explain how opposing condoning the activities of those who are breaking the law (illegal immigrants (note the word "illegal")) is against God's law?

      If someone breaks into your house, will you ask them to leave or invite them to have a cup of coffee and make some long distance calls. Or do you force them to leave before they take some of your possessions? I hope that clarifies things for "Truth" or better "Half-Truth".

      Sincerely,

      Eric Potter MD

    18. Flo in Arizona says:

      The time has come to abolish the welfare and food stamps to all illegals. This keeps them here. The Democrats are counting on them for votes therefore, amnesty is what their ultimate goal for these illegal aliens. The illegal aliens need to be transport back to their homeland. Enough is enough and we the residents of Arizona cannot afford them any longer.

    19. Char B., Phoenix, AZ says:

      Truth doesn't get that we can't afford to pay other people's way. They get a free ride on the

      taxpayer's back. It is bankrupting our country!

    20. Holly, CA says:

      As far as picking crops goes, the cost of picking the fruit/vegetables makes up 6% of the what you pay for food. So we could triple the wages of farm workers (and be willing to get more Americans to do the job), and only increase costs for food by 12% (and that is excluding the fact that 12 million illegals aren't being employed entirely within the agricultural industry – there are jobs that they are taking that would be readily taken by American citizens). Just a little ammo when you hear people bring that up as a reason to give amnesty to all illegals.

    21. Holly, CA says:

      What do you think "Truth" does for a living? My bet is teaching. Theory is great, but we have to live in the real world.

    22. Dave, Laguna Niguel says:

      Isn't YES so sweet and caring? Liberalism is a mental disorder. I would rather pay $2 for a head of lettuce than to pay minimum wage to ILLEGALS! We shold not be encouraging illegal immigration in this country. Not one word in this entire nonsensical healthcare debate about ILLEGAL ALIEN HEALTH ISSUES! WELL BABY CARE AS WELL AS BIRTHS OF MILLIONS OF BABIES, TOO MANY OPERATIONS TO COUNT, PRESCRIPTIONS, ETC.,EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS FOR FLU, ITCHING, COLDS, WHATEVER, we are talking BILLIONS OF Americans dollars here, snatched right out of their pockets by the crooks in Washington! Heck, the chain gang and inmates used to do these jobs. Libs object so we just pay $45,ooo per yr for inmates to sit on their butts! No wonder they come back in 2 weeks.

    23. Joyce, Las Vegas says:

      American citizens are enjoying a 14% unemployment so close the borders and send the illegal immigrants home and then check unemployment and see where we are. Unemployed Americans can't pay taxes and illegals don't pay so get Americans employed.

    24. Jeanne Stotler, Wood says:

      I would like "truth" to tell my sons that they should be going hungry, have no health Ins. because they don't have jobs and have to tell their sons that they would not have any Christmas at home because of the economy and that Immigrants legal and illegal get preverence over them. The word "illegal" shows the law was broken, my grandparents came here in the late 1800's from Denmark, they were required to 1) bea able to read, speak and write ENGLISH 2) know Our history and Laws 3) PROVE that they could support themselves and their families and not go on the Dole(Welfare). My Bestapa was a baker as was his son-in law, Bestama was a stay at home mother. Danish was s poken in the home but NEVER in public,I am second generation as are most of my cousins and we speak very little Danish, we do write some and can read a little. My mother was11th generation from the mAYFLOWER English, scottish and french decent and spoke only English except wha little Danish she picked up. Now we have to Press one for English and are berated for NOT learning and speaking Spanish. This is USA and someone should declare ENGLISH the official lang.

    25. greg, homestead, fl says:

      truth, remember when Jesus said, "render unto cesear what is cesear's and render unto GOD what is His"? you are required to rebuke others when they error from the truth, but liberals do not like to be told they are wrong. you will be judged only on if you believe in Jesus as your savior or not.

      yes, learn your history. before the last 40 years most immigrants came here lawfully, looking to better their lives. most were not fleeing persecution as you state. many went back to their own countries. if we give criminals amnesty why not open the prison gates and free all inmates?

    26. Big Daddy, PHX says:

      In Phoenix, there aren't enough jobs for those of us in the construction industry. So, we are often offered fewer hours or lower pay in lieu of job loss. We lose insurance benefits. We still "technically" make too much for food stamps and healthcare benefits but we don't make enough to keep our homes. Our options are simple: Suffer through the down-turn or commit crimes to augment our income… This is true for MOST of us.

      If you are illegal and therefore, by definition, a criminal. You simply print up another ID and SSN (usually stolen from a legal citizen), go down to DES and get food stamps. If you get caught, you just repeat the process.

    27. gene,minnesota says:

      Duncan I'm right along with you on that, these guys are just in office to long. We do need term limits plus they make way to mush money for what they do. They should be able to live on what an average American man or women has to live on pre year.

    28. joan, connecticut says:

      The president's right hand man Rham Emanuel, made the statement, "never waste a crisis." Mr.Emanuel was talking politics, and we know that he was talking as only a politician can,about turning a bad situation around. We as Americans, should take Rham's advice,because we are in a crisis, and we need to let the Washington politicians know, that we do not want the socialist ideals they are trying to force on us. The crisis, we all face is Government control of every aspect of our lives, unless we stand up and let our politicians know, that we as a group, will not them shred our Constitution and stomp on our rights as well as the loss of our Republic Our Washington DC office holders, took an oath to protect and defend that great document,but seem to have forgotten that inconvenient truth. The Amnesty bill, is being prepared in secret and unless we speak it, if passed, will further the unemployment in America, and create a country dependent on the Government for its very survival. That's socialism in its finest form! The Health care bill, being written under the cover of darkness, should be an awakening, to the dirty dealing that is practiced in Congress. Is this the way we want our country run? Bribes,cheating and personal attacks are what Washington politics has become. It is time for True Americans, to tell Congress "NO MORE," and follow through by voting out all those who fail to listen to the citizens, who pay them to represent us. We are being walked on. and it is time to let Our Senators and House Members that we are tired of the lack of representation.Term limits are a necessity,as well pork barrel spending. One Republic for which we stand, is the creed we have lived by for over two hundred years, and we want it to stay that way!

    29. Man says:

      Truth is talking jiberish! If truth has even read the Bible, she would recognize the Real Truth.

      The Bible provides overwelming evidence that God belives in borders!

      Here are just a few examples, A border exists between Heaven and Hell. A border exists between Life and Death. A border exists between land and water. A border exists between darkness and light.

      The fact of the matter is that truth is a deceiver disguised as an angel of light. God has warned belivers about your kind in His Word. God rebukes you!

      God bless America's service women and men. I pray that He gives America the strenght to secure its borders. God bless America! Patriotic American

    30. Corky says:

      Dial 1 for Spanish. I am sick and tired of paying MY TAXES to free loaders!! The only reason for allowing healthcare for illegal's are VOTES. The healthcare reform (take over) should NOT include illegal's. That in of it's self will open the flood gates along or southern border. Our taxes will have to pick up the tabe for MANY MILLIONS MORE then. This administration must be stopped brfore it is to late…

    31. Karen, Denver says:

      There is only one reason and one reason alone why the Democrats are pushing to legalize illegal aliens – to make more Democrats! They will swell their ranks by five million voters and go on to change this country into a socialist nation. Well, more socialist than it already is…

    32. Carol, AZ says:

      The clear , unbias accountability on this issue has been intelligently stated recently, on a National Geographic special aired named, " "Border Wars."

      You my see it on the web if you missed it. .

      To big Daddy from Phoenix ;

      I have had my identity stolen twice since living in AZ.

      So you are correct on all levels.

      To those of you who feel that this act of personal violation had something to do with God, I'm here to telll you that, " God had nothing to do with this."

      It was an illegal act of personal violation on us by illegal persons living here.

      It completely messed-up our personal accounts for weeks and took several weeks to straightent out.

      This is not our grand-parents' America.

      This a human rush to our borders (which are not secured,) by people who "know" all too well ,what they will be "gifted with" or can take, if they make it across any given opening .

      We are all paying and paying and paying for our Gov't duplicity over this issue. .

      In most states you , have no clue, what the % in paid- out, for entitlement costs, for this free ride and " how deep the pockets are.

      I am so upset about the lack of this accountability on this subject that I have re-registered as an Independent.

      100 % of all conversations on this issue from both, Dems. and Rep. friends express the same feelings.

      Meanwhile funding for our Border protection has recently been cut.

      I support the men and women who do this dangerous job everyday and the full combat scenario's they are comfronted with.

      Clearly the mainstream press has been stilled on this topic.

      I realize that those of you who do not live on a border state, this subject maybe difficult for you to undestand.

      The illegals in your State are more in the shadows .

      But if you were to sit in any emergency room of any public hospital for one week, I'm certain you would see a very different picture of the "costs' of health care in the millions in over-runs and "why".

      That is just one small aspect of how stupid we have become over this issue.

      IF you want to come to America we will welcome you with our arms opened also allowing you to have all the legal aspects of living here freely, openingly, as a legal member of our society.

    33. rbjlove, Conroe Texa says:

      It is easy for the American People to see the negative part of “illegal” immigration, but a little harder to accept and see the positive contribution they make towards our country. Yes, we need to focus on tightening border security and deport the criminals, I fully support that, but why deport the people who work hard and believe in prosperity though their own efforts? I believe all people have the right to pursue a better future for their children; if they are not hurting anybody, let them pay taxes and contribute to our economy legally since their doing it illegally now.

      We’re a nation of immigrants; if we were not the ones who immigrate to this country, then, our ancestors did; just because there was no immigration law back then or just because they were white does not make it legal. There is no illegal creature in the eyes of God for we are all sinners; God has blessed America for a reason. We give the image of “America, land of the free!”. What right do we have to deny them that? Shouldn’t everyone have the right to pursue happiness, freedom and equality? I, along with many others believe so.

      We want cheaper goods and services, but we do not want the people who provide them to us; it’s not their fault we have less jobs. The reasons people have lost their jobs is because companies have had to cut down on cost, move to other countries for cheaper labor and less taxation, or shut down completely because they cannot legally provide cheaper goods and services with highly paid employees. To be honest, we do not need to blind ourselves to the fact that there are some people out there that would much rather stay home and get the Government to help them than work at a low paying job. Maybe they have too much pride? Or maybe they’re too lazy to work? The immigration reform will help the small businesses that need employees that really want to work and are willing to work for less, these small businesses are the heart of our economy and they are struggling right now.

      If blaming other make you feel better about yourself, go ahead, all I know is that you do not fix problems by blaming others. With that, you just become a foolish, ignorant, person with hatred in your heart. “Please God forgive their ignorance and protect us from Evil!” Instead of focusing on all the bad, it’s time for an American solution that combines fairness, accountability, dignity, and getting things done. My belief is that now is the time to stand up to these racists, extremists who want to expel our hard working immigrants from our country. It’s time to fight for a practical immigration solution rooted in the restoration of the rule of law, earned citizenship, united families, and fair treatment of workers. These extremist enjoy having cheaper goods and services but they don’t want the people who provide them. I guess they love everything made in China because they have slaves without having to deal with them.

      People for the immigration reform are neither Republican nor Democrat, they are people who feel the love of God in their hearts and believe in fairness and people’s rights. Although President Obama was not my favorite President, he will be if he passes the Immigrations Reform without Republican support, like he did with the Health Care Reform. We need the Immigration Reform to prevent other States from becoming racists like Arizona. It is shameful the image that Arizona is giving to the world, they dishonor the meaning of “The Melting Pot” “America land of the free”.

      Our Latino younger generation is suffering because the government is taking their parents away from them. ICE is tearing our families apart! We don’t want our kids to grow up with hatred in their heart and resentment toward their own country; we want them to be law-abiding citizens that believe in the “American Dream” not in the “American Nightmare”. These kids may be defenseless now for not being able to vote, but there is a lot of Latinos that will do it for them.

      My family use to be Republican, but this year we have decided to be independents. I have voted Republican since I was able to vote; I was a Republican because of Reagan, Bush and McCain, they are true Republicans that made me feel proud of being Conservative Republican; now, I feel sad to see that the party that I used to feel connected to, that I used to defend from my friends and family members that are Democrats; that Party makes me feel rejected.

      What the Republican Party is doing is giving away the support they had from the Latino Community and the Democrats are gladly welcoming them. I agree with the Republican Party in very other issue except Immigration, because I know that not all immigrants are criminals like they are trying to portray them.

      I used to listen to Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity every day at the office, but it became so painful to listen to them that I had to quit for my own good. Now I listen to the Spanish Radio.

      God Bless America!

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