Comments on: A Thinly-Disguised Power Grab: The Latest Senate “Compromise” On The Government-Run Health Plan http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/08/a-thinly-disguised-power-grab-the-latest-senate-compromise-on-the-government-run-health-plan/ Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:27:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: The House and Senate Cloakrooms: Dec. 14 – 18 | Conservative Principles Now http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/08/a-thinly-disguised-power-grab-the-latest-senate-compromise-on-the-government-run-health-plan/#comment-75184 The House and Senate Cloakrooms: Dec. 14 – 18 | Conservative Principles Now Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:07:22 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=21385#comment-75184 [...] the week much the same way as it awaits the Congressional Budget Office score of the latest “major breakthrough.” Insiders suggest that once Majority Leader Reid (D-NV) receives an “acceptable” score from [...] [...] the week much the same way as it awaits the Congressional Budget Office score of the latest “major breakthrough.” Insiders suggest that once Majority Leader Reid (D-NV) receives an “acceptable” score from [...]

]]> By: Will Obamacare Be Run from the West Wing? | Conservative Principles Now http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/08/a-thinly-disguised-power-grab-the-latest-senate-compromise-on-the-government-run-health-plan/#comment-74914 Will Obamacare Be Run from the West Wing? | Conservative Principles Now Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:42:36 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=21385#comment-74914 [...] Part II of the compromise consists of an expansion of Medicare (including people as young as 55). And it’s big entitlement expansion. (That’s how the Congressional liberals now define “reform.”) Not surprisingly, Rep Anthony Weiner (D-NY) has applauded this part of the compromise as a big step toward the single payer option, and told the Los Angeles Times: “Expanding Medicare is an unvarnished, complete victory for people like me. It’s the mother of all public options.” Not to be outdone, the editors of The Washington Post said this morning: “ The irony of this late breaking Medicare proposal is that it could be a bigger step toward a single payer system than the milquetoast public option plans rejected by Senate moderates as too disruptive of the private market.” [...] [...] Part II of the compromise consists of an expansion of Medicare (including people as young as 55). And it’s big entitlement expansion. (That’s how the Congressional liberals now define “reform.”) Not surprisingly, Rep Anthony Weiner (D-NY) has applauded this part of the compromise as a big step toward the single payer option, and told the Los Angeles Times: “Expanding Medicare is an unvarnished, complete victory for people like me. It’s the mother of all public options.” Not to be outdone, the editors of The Washington Post said this morning: “ The irony of this late breaking Medicare proposal is that it could be a bigger step toward a single payer system than the milquetoast public option plans rejected by Senate moderates as too disruptive of the private market.” [...]

]]> By: Will Obamacare Be Run from the West Wing? | Fix Health Care Policy http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/08/a-thinly-disguised-power-grab-the-latest-senate-compromise-on-the-government-run-health-plan/#comment-74250 Will Obamacare Be Run from the West Wing? | Fix Health Care Policy Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:41:23 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=21385#comment-74250 [...] Part II of the compromise consists of an expansion of Medicare (including people as young as 55). And it’s big entitlement expansion. (That’s how the Congressional liberals now define “reform.”) Not surprisingly, Rep Anthony Weiner (D-NY) has applauded this part of the compromise as a big step toward the single payer option, and told the Los Angeles Times: “Expanding Medicare is an unvarnished, complete victory for people like me. It’s the mother of all public options.” Not to be outdone, the editors of The Washington Post said this morning: “ The irony of this late breaking Medicare proposal is that it could be a bigger step toward a single payer system than the milquetoast public option plans rejected by Senate moderates as too disruptive of the private market.” [...] [...] Part II of the compromise consists of an expansion of Medicare (including people as young as 55). And it’s big entitlement expansion. (That’s how the Congressional liberals now define “reform.”) Not surprisingly, Rep Anthony Weiner (D-NY) has applauded this part of the compromise as a big step toward the single payer option, and told the Los Angeles Times: “Expanding Medicare is an unvarnished, complete victory for people like me. It’s the mother of all public options.” Not to be outdone, the editors of The Washington Post said this morning: “ The irony of this late breaking Medicare proposal is that it could be a bigger step toward a single payer system than the milquetoast public option plans rejected by Senate moderates as too disruptive of the private market.” [...]

]]> By: DayOwl, Greensboro, http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/08/a-thinly-disguised-power-grab-the-latest-senate-compromise-on-the-government-run-health-plan/#comment-73933 DayOwl, Greensboro, Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:34:19 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=21385#comment-73933 Rationing of care does and will continue to happen regardless of the outcome of the bill. Demand will continue to outstrip supply and funding no matter what kind of system is in place. The public option is a non-issue where insurance companies are concerned. Eliminating the pre-existing condition exclusion will be the death knell for the industry. They will not be able to maintain profits without this highly effective, albeit socially and morally repugnant, cost control. Subsidies and mandates will be accompanied by increasing government control that will lead to an eventual de facto single payer system, with insurance bureaucracies competing for administration contracts only. This is a prediction, not an endorsement. This particular bill is a travesty, but the system is headed for collapse. Uncomfortable changes are in the future, no matter what we do. Rationing of care does and will continue to happen regardless of the outcome of the bill. Demand will continue to outstrip supply and funding no matter what kind of system is in place.

The public option is a non-issue where insurance companies are concerned. Eliminating the pre-existing condition exclusion will be the death knell for the industry. They will not be able to maintain profits without this highly effective, albeit socially and morally repugnant, cost control.

Subsidies and mandates will be accompanied by increasing government control that will lead to an eventual de facto single payer system, with insurance bureaucracies competing for administration contracts only.

This is a prediction, not an endorsement. This particular bill is a travesty, but the system is headed for collapse. Uncomfortable changes are in the future, no matter what we do.

]]> By: EJM, Geneva http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/08/a-thinly-disguised-power-grab-the-latest-senate-compromise-on-the-government-run-health-plan/#comment-73908 EJM, Geneva Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:54:40 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=21385#comment-73908 As a compromise why not propose this plan for 18 months? Then if it doesn't work by July, 2011, we will have an exit strategy. Time is running out to write your Senators & Congressperson. Tell them we are watching and will not be fooled by these tricks. No coerced insurance for the young. No rationing of care for the old. No unfunded expansion of federal entitlements. Kill the bill. As a compromise why not propose this plan for 18 months? Then if it doesn't work by July, 2011, we will have an exit strategy.

Time is running out to write your Senators & Congressperson. Tell them we are watching and will not be fooled by these tricks.

No coerced insurance for the young.

No rationing of care for the old.

No unfunded expansion of federal entitlements.

Kill the bill.

]]> By: A Thinly-Disguised Power Grab: The Latest Senate “Compromise” On The Government-Run Health Plan « http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/08/a-thinly-disguised-power-grab-the-latest-senate-compromise-on-the-government-run-health-plan/#comment-73828 A Thinly-Disguised Power Grab: The Latest Senate “Compromise” On The Government-Run Health Plan « Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:45:43 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=21385#comment-73828 [...] PDRTJS_settings_266709_post_7774 = { "id" : "266709", "unique_id" : "wp-post-7774", "title" : "A+Thinly-Disguised+Power+Grab%3A+The+Latest+Senate+%E2%80%9CCompromise%E2%80%9D+On+The+Government-Run+Health+Plan", "item_id" : "_post_7774", "permalink" : "http%3A%2F%2Fwaltjr.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F12%2F08%2Fa-thinly-disguised-power-grab-the-latest-senate-%25e2%2580%259ccompromise%25e2%2580%259d-on-the-government-run-health-plan%2F" } Source: Heritage [...] [...] PDRTJS_settings_266709_post_7774 = { “id” : “266709″, “unique_id” : “wp-post-7774″, “title” : “A+Thinly-Disguised+Power+Grab%3A+The+Latest+Senate+%E2%80%9CCompromise%E2%80%9D+On+The+Government-Run+Health+Plan”, “item_id” : “_post_7774″, “permalink” : “http%3A%2F%2Fwaltjr.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F12%2F08%2Fa-thinly-disguised-power-grab-the-latest-senate-%25e2%2580%259ccompromise%25e2%2580%259d-on-the-government-run-health-plan%2F” } Source: Heritage [...]

]]> By: Bobbie Jay http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/08/a-thinly-disguised-power-grab-the-latest-senate-compromise-on-the-government-run-health-plan/#comment-73862 Bobbie Jay Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:47:35 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=21385#comment-73862 I distinctly recall the President calling this "my plan." Also stating "my plan will pass." The President is the seed of this corruption. I distinctly recall the President calling this "my plan." Also stating "my plan will pass." The President is the seed of this corruption.

]]> By: Bobbie Jay http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/08/a-thinly-disguised-power-grab-the-latest-senate-compromise-on-the-government-run-health-plan/#comment-73861 Bobbie Jay Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:44:28 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=21385#comment-73861 This bill has to be killed. The corruption is sickening. The set-up, deadly. If laws were upheld, these people would be in jail. This bill has to be killed. The corruption is sickening. The set-up, deadly.

If laws were upheld, these people would be in jail.

]]> By: Catherine West http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/08/a-thinly-disguised-power-grab-the-latest-senate-compromise-on-the-government-run-health-plan/#comment-73849 Catherine West Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:26:36 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=21385#comment-73849 Does anyone out there see that the HR3590, whatever form it takes, continues violation Article V: Checks & Balances between the 3 branches of government which allows encroachment with too much power in the hands of to few men -- especially like Mr. Obama & czars!? That is because Mr. Obama won the election and even though he knows better, he feels he can alter 'We the people's' Constitution by shifting the overlapping powers & thereby altering the balance which helps protect our liberty from a Federal government which wants to justify 'Supplying' 100% of all health-care from before birth to death with all providers including the business' that provide the providers! And Save money!? That is also why the Patient Protection Plan is Not about Medical Care it will not be successful at providing at the monstrous size & cost, but will solidify power in the Executive Branch of Government. Also expands the Executive Branch's power into all areas of government. Think about what is already law with this Administration - then think about the businesses that supply providers of medical care; then think about standardization of each individual's data about themselves & their family - far away from any medical need! This is a government of force; or we wouldn't be having talks about the above power-grab. This is who Mr. Obama,his friends & some members of Congress are as leaders! If you don't see, please read Federalist Papers #47 and read G. Washington's Farewell Address approx. the 16th through the 23rd paragraphs or New Constitution, Rule of Law, Faction, opposition to Constitution, liberty, Rights, spirit of Party, separation of power and love of Power. Thank you, Cathy West San Marcos, CA Does anyone out there see that the HR3590, whatever form it takes, continues violation Article V: Checks & Balances between the 3 branches of government which allows encroachment with too much power in the hands of to few men — especially like Mr. Obama & czars!? That is because Mr. Obama won the election and even though he knows better, he feels he can alter 'We the people's' Constitution by shifting the overlapping powers & thereby altering the balance which helps protect our liberty from a Federal government which wants to justify 'Supplying' 100% of all health-care from before birth to death with all providers including the business' that provide the providers! And Save money!? That is also why the Patient Protection Plan is Not about Medical Care it will not be successful at providing at the monstrous size & cost, but will solidify power in the Executive Branch of Government. Also expands the Executive Branch's power into all areas of government. Think about what is already law with this Administration – then think about the businesses that supply providers of medical care; then think about standardization of each individual's data about themselves & their family – far away from any medical need! This is a government of force; or we wouldn't be having talks about the above power-grab.

This is who Mr. Obama,his friends & some members of Congress are as leaders!

If you don't see, please read Federalist Papers #47 and read G. Washington's Farewell Address approx. the 16th through the 23rd paragraphs or New Constitution, Rule of Law, Faction, opposition to Constitution, liberty, Rights, spirit of Party, separation of power and love of Power.

Thank you, Cathy West San Marcos, CA

]]> By: Ron in Denver http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/08/a-thinly-disguised-power-grab-the-latest-senate-compromise-on-the-government-run-health-plan/#comment-73803 Ron in Denver Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:47:06 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=21385#comment-73803 It appears that the Democrats are going to try to slip a "revised??" Senate bill through so as to quickly get it in the hands of a "democratically controlled" conference committee. Therefore, I think it is now time that we demand that any Senator who votes for this reform plan must be willing to have a little "skin" in the game. For example, in the event that ten years from now that the reform plan does not meet the stated benchmarks and goals in the bill, then, those supporting Senators have to "forfeit" their special federal pension and health insurance benefits and have to go on SS and under the new health/medicare plan that all the rest of us are stuck with. It appears that the Democrats are going to try to slip a "revised??" Senate bill through so as to quickly get it in the hands of a "democratically controlled" conference committee. Therefore, I think it is now time that we demand that any Senator who votes for this reform plan must be willing to have a little "skin" in the game. For example, in the event that ten years from now that the reform plan does not meet the stated benchmarks and goals in the bill, then, those supporting Senators have to "forfeit" their special federal pension and health insurance benefits and have to go on SS and under the new health/medicare plan that all the rest of us are stuck with.

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