Comments on: Enabling the Opponents of Reform http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/24/enabling-the-opponents-of-reform/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:29:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: loves Dogs http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/24/enabling-the-opponents-of-reform/#comment-71435 loves Dogs Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:19:37 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20455#comment-71435 UNTIL YOU GET RID OF UNIONS THERE IS NO FREEDOM TO DO WHAT IS GOOD IN THIS COUNTRY. People are so stupid to believe business etc. have gone away because these company's chose to take their goods else where for cheaper labor. Well, folks, wake up and smell the roses....they left because the UNIONs destroyed what once was good. They are the middle man and if you have to pay someone like this then you are S.O.O.L.. Teachers, wake up----you have the best job out there.....you are off on holidays and summers etc. unless you live somewhere that parents want a free babysitter twelve months out of the year but if you get rid of the unions and just figure out how to speak up and do you job right ---this is what will happen..... Teacher use to teach because they loved the profession. Now, it 's about how much can they earn and how many days a year off can they get...... Then the unions controll you baby. UNTIL YOU GET RID OF UNIONS THERE IS NO FREEDOM TO DO WHAT IS GOOD IN THIS COUNTRY. People are so stupid to believe business etc. have gone away because these company's chose to take their goods else where for cheaper labor. Well, folks, wake up and smell the roses….they left because the UNIONs destroyed what once was good. They are the middle man and if you have to pay someone like this then you are S.O.O.L.. Teachers, wake up—-you have the best job out there…..you are off on holidays and summers etc. unless you live somewhere that parents want a free babysitter twelve months out of the year but if you get rid of the unions and just figure out how to speak up and do you job right —this is what will happen….. Teacher use to teach because they loved the profession. Now, it 's about how much can they earn and how many days a year off can they get…… Then the unions controll you baby.

]]> By: Bobbie Jay http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/24/enabling-the-opponents-of-reform/#comment-71383 Bobbie Jay Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:07:37 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20455#comment-71383 Thank you for pointing that out. I guess when I see "Ford" I think of the "Motor." Are they entirely separated or can the "foundation's" corrupted investments of working against honest education, infiltrate? Rewarding the undeserving and their corruption. I don't think I can look at the name the same way. Thank you for pointing that out. I guess when I see "Ford" I think of the "Motor." Are they entirely separated or can the "foundation's" corrupted investments of working against honest education, infiltrate?

Rewarding the undeserving and their corruption. I don't think I can look at the name the same way.

]]> By: Peter Cannon, Farmin http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/24/enabling-the-opponents-of-reform/#comment-71287 Peter Cannon, Farmin Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:35:44 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20455#comment-71287 Do not confuse the Ford Foundation with Ford Motor Company. The Ford family created the Ford Foundation and it has taken a liberal turn after its board of directors was flooded with liberals. It is no wonder the foundation supports socialist practices now. On the other hand, the Ford Motor Company still believes in free markets and competition and succeeds because of it. Do not confuse the Ford Foundation with Ford Motor Company. The Ford family created the Ford Foundation and it has taken a liberal turn after its board of directors was flooded with liberals. It is no wonder the foundation supports socialist practices now.

On the other hand, the Ford Motor Company still believes in free markets and competition and succeeds because of it.

]]> By: Ross writes from Bra http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/24/enabling-the-opponents-of-reform/#comment-71147 Ross writes from Bra Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:03:58 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20455#comment-71147 The teacher union's creed: "those that can't do, teach." When one works on an assembly line, the union can hide his incompetents. That's one issue. But teaching our children, America's future? Now that's all together another issue! I don't understand why government employees need a union under any condition (The same goes for college tenure!). Because of teachers unions, the government school/education system is a fiscal diaster, a major scandal, and an unconscionable crime against the American people! Hurray for Bill Gates and Exxon/Mobile Foundation for setting up such a program. "Hold to your guns" against the Teachers Union. Continue to reward the best teachers for their dedication to excellence in education. Ford, shame on you! Unions got you in the finacial trouble your in now. Why give teacher unions anything, they deserve nothing but contempt. The teacher union's creed: "those that can't do, teach." When one works on an assembly line, the union can hide his incompetents. That's one issue. But teaching our children, America's future? Now that's all together another issue!

I don't understand why government employees need a union under any condition (The same goes for college tenure!). Because of teachers unions, the government school/education system is a fiscal diaster, a major scandal, and an unconscionable crime against the American people!

Hurray for Bill Gates and Exxon/Mobile Foundation for setting up such a program. "Hold to your guns" against the Teachers Union. Continue to reward the best teachers for their dedication to excellence in education.

Ford, shame on you! Unions got you in the finacial trouble your in now. Why give teacher unions anything, they deserve nothing but contempt.

]]> By: Al, The Villages, Fl http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/24/enabling-the-opponents-of-reform/#comment-71136 Al, The Villages, Fl Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:35:25 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20455#comment-71136 How far the union has gone from the original concept of the union to fight for the working man. It no longer is relavent to the working man, except to take his money. On the contrary, the union bosses are a business onto itself, fighting for more power at the expense of the company and the workers who will lose their job as a result of the union demands. How far the union has gone from the original concept of the union to fight for the working man. It no longer is relavent to the working man, except to take his money. On the contrary, the union bosses are a business onto itself, fighting for more power at the expense of the company and the workers who will lose their job as a result of the union demands.

]]> By: Jerry from Chicago http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/24/enabling-the-opponents-of-reform/#comment-71126 Jerry from Chicago Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:19:27 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20455#comment-71126 I can tell you from experience that the medical insurance plans of school districts are very rich. In Illinois, each school district has a number of different pay scales, one higher than the other, one for those with only a Batchelor's degree, one for those with a Master's, another for those with a Master's and additional hours of instruction, and yet another for those with a PhD. Each of those pay scales provide for an automatic pay increase annually. And at every teacher contract renewal, each of the steps of each of those pay scales goes up 3%, 4%, 5%, and sometimes more. The standard teacher contract in IL calls for teachers to work 180 days per year. After working in a given district for 5 years, they attain tenure and can't be fired except for gross misconduct. After working for 30 years and attaining the age of at least 55, teachers are eligible for a full pension -- that being 75% of the the average of their three highest years of earnings. Up until a year or so ago, teachers and administrators who announced their intent three years prior to retirement would be given pay raises of from 15% to 20% of their annual salary to sweeten those pension benefits. The best part of all this was that the local school boards who approved these big pay raises didn't have to come up with the money - the IL State Teachers Retirement System (the tax payers of IL)has to pay out these hugh pension benefits. Currently, this pension fund is 50% underfunded because IL has not been meeting its pension fund obligations. One of the last, and possibly the only responsible things our former Governor Blagojevich did, before being impeached and removed from office, was to limit such end of career pay raises to 6%. Most teachers know how good they have it and don't complain. What is truly disgusting is listening to the Teacher's Union whine and complain about how they are underpaid. The problem with unions is that they don't police their own ranks. They insist that the worst and laziest of their members make as much money and receive the same benefits as the best and most productive member. I can tell you from experience that the medical insurance plans of school districts are very rich. In Illinois, each school district has a number of different pay scales, one higher than the other, one for those with only a Batchelor's degree, one for those with a Master's, another for those with a Master's and additional hours of instruction, and yet another for those with a PhD. Each of those pay scales provide for an automatic pay increase annually. And at every teacher contract renewal, each of the steps of each of those pay scales goes up 3%, 4%, 5%, and sometimes more.

The standard teacher contract in IL calls for teachers to work 180 days per year. After working in a given district for 5 years, they attain tenure and can't be fired except for gross misconduct.

After working for 30 years and attaining the age of at least 55, teachers are eligible for a full pension — that being 75% of the the average of their three highest years of earnings. Up until a year or so ago, teachers and administrators who announced their intent three years prior to retirement would be given pay raises of from 15% to 20% of their annual salary to sweeten those pension benefits. The best part of all this was that the local school boards who approved these big pay raises didn't have to come up with the money – the IL State Teachers Retirement System (the tax payers of IL)has to pay out these hugh pension benefits. Currently, this pension fund is 50% underfunded because IL has not been meeting its pension fund obligations. One of the last, and possibly the only responsible things our former Governor Blagojevich did, before being impeached and removed from office, was to limit such end of career pay raises to 6%.

Most teachers know how good they have it and don't complain. What is truly disgusting is listening to the Teacher's Union whine and complain about how they are underpaid.

The problem with unions is that they don't police their own ranks. They insist that the worst and laziest of their members make as much money and receive the same benefits as the best and most productive member.

]]> By: Peter- Minnesota http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/24/enabling-the-opponents-of-reform/#comment-71125 Peter- Minnesota Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:18:54 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20455#comment-71125 How typical of unions, wanting the lazy & nonproductive majority to make the same as the ambitious and productive minority. For the most part unions have outlived their usefullness and have started doing more harm than good by basing pay on position & tenure rather than on contribution and effectiveness. How typical of unions, wanting the lazy & nonproductive majority to make the same as the ambitious and productive minority. For the most part unions have outlived their usefullness and have started doing more harm than good by basing pay on position & tenure rather than on contribution and effectiveness.

]]> By: cadli lv. http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/24/enabling-the-opponents-of-reform/#comment-71107 cadli lv. Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:13:06 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20455#comment-71107 In my last comment on another subject I wrote that Ford Foundation had donated 500ml to teachers union. It was not 500ml. it was 500th.Any way, that money will help the Teacher,s unions to advance their agenda. In my last comment on another subject I wrote that Ford Foundation had donated 500ml to teachers union. It was not 500ml. it was 500th.Any way, that money will help the Teacher,s unions to advance their agenda.

]]> By: Tim Az http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/24/enabling-the-opponents-of-reform/#comment-71088 Tim Az Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:23:03 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20455#comment-71088 For you teachers who complain that you don't get paid enough. The opportunities are out there all you have to do is throw your union under the bus so you can keep your hard earned dues and recieve your hard earned bonuses. Or is that boot on your throat more than comfortable. For you teachers who complain that you don't get paid enough. The opportunities are out there all you have to do is throw your union under the bus so you can keep your hard earned dues and recieve your hard earned bonuses. Or is that boot on your throat more than comfortable.

]]> By: Jeanne Stotler, wood http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/24/enabling-the-opponents-of-reform/#comment-71084 Jeanne Stotler, wood Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:21:30 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20455#comment-71084 Edgucation does need to be reformed, first we need to TEACH AMERICAN HISTORY, maybe go back to when I went to school, we had an academic program for those of us who were going to college, a program for those who were going into office work, taught shorthand and typing, then a program for those who most likely would be in the service or general work force, later a tech program was instituted. Children are not made with a cookie cutter and all have different goals and different abilities, schools should e able to handle them. I know they don't and unfortunatly there are some educators who KEEP students from their aims. I know this as it happened to two of my grandson's, both very smart but one is persuing a career at making video games and animatation, the other is into video another way, both quit in SR. YR and aced their GED's and doing well in college. Edgucation does need to be reformed, first we need to TEACH AMERICAN HISTORY, maybe go back to when I went to school, we had an academic program for those of us who were going to college, a program for those who were going into office work, taught shorthand and typing, then a program for those who most likely would be in the service or general work force, later a tech program was instituted. Children are not made with a cookie cutter and all have different goals and different abilities, schools should e able to handle them. I know they don't and unfortunatly there are some educators who KEEP students from their aims. I know this as it happened to two of my grandson's, both very smart but one is persuing a career at making video games and animatation, the other is into video another way, both quit in SR. YR and aced their GED's and doing well in college.

]]>