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	<title>Comments on: Morning Bell: A Health Bill Nobody Believes In</title>
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		<title>By: July &#8211; Dec 2009 Browseworthy Stories Archives &#171; Clear Thinking</title>
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		<dc:creator>July &#8211; Dec 2009 Browseworthy Stories Archives &#171; Clear Thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 22:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 11-20-09 Heritage Foundation Smelly legislation that will destroy person freedom&#8211;and know-it-all liberals will ram it through precisely for that reason. A Health Bill Nobody Believes In [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 11-20-09 Heritage Foundation Smelly legislation that will destroy person freedom&#8211;and know-it-all liberals will ram it through precisely for that reason. A Health Bill Nobody Believes In [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mothtramp</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/20/morning-bell-a-health-bill-nobody-believes-in/#comment-83775</link>
		<dc:creator>mothtramp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The information here is great. I will invite my friends here. 
 
Thanks </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The information here is great. I will invite my friends here.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Six differences in health care need to be reconciled : Wigderson Library &#38; Pub</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/20/morning-bell-a-health-bill-nobody-believes-in/#comment-76852</link>
		<dc:creator>Six differences in health care need to be reconciled : Wigderson Library &#38; Pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to 150 percent FPL, the same level suggested in earlier versions of the Senate HELP Committee bill. Both Democrat and Republican Governors are against this state budget-busting welfare [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to 150 percent FPL, the same level suggested in earlier versions of the Senate HELP Committee bill. Both Democrat and Republican Governors are against this state budget-busting welfare [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Edgar Oh</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/20/morning-bell-a-health-bill-nobody-believes-in/#comment-76338</link>
		<dc:creator>Edgar Oh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.campaignmoney.org/HMO_insurance_spend_to_kill_reform&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.campaignmoney.org/HMO_insurance_spend_...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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		<title>By: Edgar Oh</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/20/morning-bell-a-health-bill-nobody-believes-in/#comment-76337</link>
		<dc:creator>Edgar Oh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe in the bill 100% </description>
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		<title>By: edgar Cleveland</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/20/morning-bell-a-health-bill-nobody-believes-in/#comment-76330</link>
		<dc:creator>edgar Cleveland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MORE - SCARE TACTICS HEADLINES 
A Health Bill Nobody Believes In. 
WRONG!!! 
I belive in it. 
LVKen7@Gmail.com 
Wrong!!!! I also believe in it.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.campaignmoney.org/HMO_insurance_spend_to_kill_reform&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.campaignmoney.org/HMO_insurance_spend_...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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<p>A Health Bill Nobody Believes In.</p>
<p>WRONG!!!</p>
<p>I belive in it.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:LVKen7@Gmail.com">LVKen7@Gmail.com</a></p>
<p>Wrong!!!! I also believe in it.<br />
  <a href="http://www.campaignmoney.org/HMO_insurance_spend_to_kill_reform" rel="nofollow">http://www.campaignmoney.org/HMO_insurance_spend_&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Video: Baucus Admits Obamacare Costs $2.5 Trillion &#124; Step Down Obama</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/20/morning-bell-a-health-bill-nobody-believes-in/#comment-72737</link>
		<dc:creator>Video: Baucus Admits Obamacare Costs $2.5 Trillion &#124; Step Down Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CBO was willing to score at $848 billion. Problem is, the bill is filled with so many gimmicks that nobody believes that $848 billion score is the true cost of the bill. And yesterday on the Senate floor, Sen. Max [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] CBO was willing to score at $848 billion. Problem is, the bill is filled with so many gimmicks that nobody believes that $848 billion score is the true cost of the bill. And yesterday on the Senate floor, Sen. Max [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Senate Votes Obamacare One Step Closer to the Finish Line &#124; Conservative Principles Now</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/20/morning-bell-a-health-bill-nobody-believes-in/#comment-70587</link>
		<dc:creator>Senate Votes Obamacare One Step Closer to the Finish Line &#124; Conservative Principles Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not even scheduled to be paid out until 2014. There is a huge disparity between the two sides as to the cost of the bill and if it gets bigger and bigger on the Senate floor, then it may suffer a legislative [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not even scheduled to be paid out until 2014. There is a huge disparity between the two sides as to the cost of the bill and if it gets bigger and bigger on the Senate floor, then it may suffer a legislative [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blair Franconia, NH</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blair Franconia, NH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If nobody believes in it, then why pass it? Maybe to massage the egos of Reid, Obama, and Pelosi. Obama&#039;s belief in a single payer health care system. Which countries have that are 
economically sound? Britain, Canada, and Cuba. They aren&#039;t economically sound. Will we? No. Why? because countries with 
state-run health care systems, just aren&#039;t. Would you like the 
same government that ran the Postal Service, Amtrak, and Conrail, into the ground, to do the same with the health care 
system? I wouldn&#039;t. The head of the Canadian Medical Association said last summer that Canada needs to be more like the the United States. The Netherlands recently opened up its health care system to private insurance companies. Why not allow the private sector do this? Here&#039;s my plan for health care reform: First, do what Chile did, and privatize the Social System, second, put a cap on the nebulous &quot;pain and suffering&quot; damages that juries love to award like they&#039;re candy canes at Christmastime, it called tort reform, you congressional retards, and it works, third, allow people to buy insurance policies across state lines, fourth, allow people to invest some of their Social Security checks, especially those in their twenties, and thirties, in the stock market, and lastly, allow for interstate competition. It&#039;s just common sense. But common sense isn&#039;t all that common in Washington, is it? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If nobody believes in it, then why pass it? Maybe to massage the egos of Reid, Obama, and Pelosi. Obama&#039;s belief in a single payer health care system. Which countries have that are</p>
<p>economically sound? Britain, Canada, and Cuba. They aren&#039;t economically sound. Will we? No. Why? because countries with</p>
<p>state-run health care systems, just aren&#039;t. Would you like the</p>
<p>same government that ran the Postal Service, Amtrak, and Conrail, into the ground, to do the same with the health care</p>
<p>system? I wouldn&#039;t. The head of the Canadian Medical Association said last summer that Canada needs to be more like the the United States. The Netherlands recently opened up its health care system to private insurance companies. Why not allow the private sector do this? Here&#039;s my plan for health care reform: First, do what Chile did, and privatize the Social System, second, put a cap on the nebulous &quot;pain and suffering&quot; damages that juries love to award like they&#039;re candy canes at Christmastime, it called tort reform, you congressional retards, and it works, third, allow people to buy insurance policies across state lines, fourth, allow people to invest some of their Social Security checks, especially those in their twenties, and thirties, in the stock market, and lastly, allow for interstate competition. It&#039;s just common sense. But common sense isn&#039;t all that common in Washington, is it?</p>
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		<title>By: TerryP, Nebraska</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerryP, Nebraska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, you are right Charles numbers were a little off, but your numbers are also off.  Actually the cost over the first ten years the benefits are fully paid out are roughly $2.5 trillion.  Divide that by 31 million and you get over $80,000 per person or roughly $8,000/year/person.  I am currently paying less then that for a family of four so yes we certainly could find cheaper insurance then what they are proposing.   
 
Here is a better idea.  A simple one page bill allowing people to buy insurance across state lines that wouldn&#039;t cost the gov&#039;t one dime would likely increase insurance coverage by over ten million, decrease insurance costs by billions and probably in the trillions over ten years, and thus jump start our economy, which will help in many other ways.  Obviously there would have to be some other things that could be done but this one simple thing would do far more then the current 2000 page bill at a dramatically lower cost. Then we could focus on the people that truly need help as well as focus on the inefficiencies of our current gov&#039;t controlled third party payer system. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, you are right Charles numbers were a little off, but your numbers are also off.  Actually the cost over the first ten years the benefits are fully paid out are roughly $2.5 trillion.  Divide that by 31 million and you get over $80,000 per person or roughly $8,000/year/person.  I am currently paying less then that for a family of four so yes we certainly could find cheaper insurance then what they are proposing.  </p>
<p>Here is a better idea.  A simple one page bill allowing people to buy insurance across state lines that wouldn&#039;t cost the gov&#039;t one dime would likely increase insurance coverage by over ten million, decrease insurance costs by billions and probably in the trillions over ten years, and thus jump start our economy, which will help in many other ways.  Obviously there would have to be some other things that could be done but this one simple thing would do far more then the current 2000 page bill at a dramatically lower cost. Then we could focus on the people that truly need help as well as focus on the inefficiencies of our current gov&#039;t controlled third party payer system.</p>
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