Comments on: The Five Flaws of the Reid Health Bill http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/19/the-five-flaws-of-the-reid-health-bill/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:29:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: race42008.com » Blog Archive » My Night At The American Spectator Dinner http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/19/the-five-flaws-of-the-reid-health-bill/#comment-71483 race42008.com » Blog Archive » My Night At The American Spectator Dinner Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:31:13 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20127#comment-71483 [...] a terrible health care bill going through the Senate right now that includes high income taxes, a public option and under-the-table funding for abortion. Cap-and-trade legislation is likely dead, but it is [...] [...] a terrible health care bill going through the Senate right now that includes high income taxes, a public option and under-the-table funding for abortion. Cap-and-trade legislation is likely dead, but it is [...]

]]> By: John Young http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/19/the-five-flaws-of-the-reid-health-bill/#comment-71253 John Young Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:46:46 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20127#comment-71253 I couldn’t tell you whether or not this bill is constitutional but it sure doesn’t square with the Preamble to the Constitution. The Preamble lists the six reasons for ordaining and establishing the Constitution. The sixth reason is to “secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity”. Tossing people in jail for not buying government mandated health insurance is denying liberty, not securing it. I couldn’t tell you whether or not this bill is constitutional but it sure doesn’t square with the Preamble to the Constitution. The Preamble lists the six reasons for ordaining and establishing the Constitution. The sixth reason is to “secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity”. Tossing people in jail for not buying government mandated health insurance is denying liberty, not securing it.

]]> By: Jon Alan http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/19/the-five-flaws-of-the-reid-health-bill/#comment-70839 Jon Alan Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:08:17 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20127#comment-70839 Wildcat from Dallastown, Regards your third paragraph. in my humble opinion we currently have no other option. If the administration does not chill out,so to speak, the current resistance will opt for rebellion. Wildcat from Dallastown, Regards your third paragraph. in my humble opinion we currently have no other option. If the administration does not chill out,so to speak, the current resistance will opt for rebellion.

]]> By: Senate Votes Obamacare One Step Closer to the Finish Line | Conservative Principles Now http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/19/the-five-flaws-of-the-reid-health-bill/#comment-70586 Senate Votes Obamacare One Step Closer to the Finish Line | Conservative Principles Now Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:58:01 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20127#comment-70586 [...] Senate voted this evening by a 60-39 majority to commence debate on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s bill that would radically expand government control over private health care decisions. The bill is over [...] [...] Senate voted this evening by a 60-39 majority to commence debate on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s bill that would radically expand government control over private health care decisions. The bill is over [...]

]]> By: Senate Votes Obamacare One Step Closer to the Finish Line | Fix Health Care Policy http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/19/the-five-flaws-of-the-reid-health-bill/#comment-70545 Senate Votes Obamacare One Step Closer to the Finish Line | Fix Health Care Policy Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:31:32 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20127#comment-70545 [...] Senate voted this evening by a 60-39 majority to commence debate on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s bill that would radically expand government control over private health care decisions. The bill is over [...] [...] Senate voted this evening by a 60-39 majority to commence debate on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s bill that would radically expand government control over private health care decisions. The bill is over [...]

]]> By: Wildcat from Dallast http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/19/the-five-flaws-of-the-reid-health-bill/#comment-70602 Wildcat from Dallast Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:29:15 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20127#comment-70602 ONLY 5 flaws in Dingy Harry’s horrific health care reform bill!! How can you tell when Dingy Harry is lying? Answer: his lips are moving. No truly American citizen can believe that this 2,074 page piece of excrement has anything to do with anything positive for us relative to viable health care reform. When young citizens only 20 years old can identify the lack of logic behind the numbers concerning cost and savings estimates you have to realize that our elected representatives in both the house and senate think we are ignorant of their intentions and actions and absolutely stupid in our abilities to determine right from wrong and whether or not something passes the common sense test. It is also very obvious that SEIU had a great deal to do with producing this crap-filled pro-union, personal liberty and financial independence destroying bill. In response to a question from Joanne from PA concerning a class action suit against the house &/or senate concerning this bill’s violation of our Constitution. The short answer is no. Unfortunately the more correct answer is that (as I understand it from Judge Napolitano-Fox News contributor) is that someone who refuses to buy insurance and then refuses to pay the fine has to be charged first. Then, that individual has to take that litigation through the courts until that determination (or ruling) can be officially made. You may pose your question to Jay Sekulov at the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ). He also has a radio program where he can go into great detail. Other than communicating our thoughts to our elected representatives in both houses articulating our thoughts, concerns and how we want to (or demand to be) represented in this as well as all the other critical issues that have head our way and continue to do so; remember what our founding fathers did when they were taxed without representation by King George. They actively rebelled after their submitted letters where they tried to address their grievances were ignored. There may come a time very soon when our redress of grievances may appear to have fallen on deaf ears and the protests of today turn into the rebellion of tomorrow. ONLY 5 flaws in Dingy Harry’s horrific health care reform bill!! How can you tell when Dingy Harry is lying? Answer: his lips are moving. No truly American citizen can believe that this 2,074 page piece of excrement has anything to do with anything positive for us relative to viable health care reform. When young citizens only 20 years old can identify the lack of logic behind the numbers concerning cost and savings estimates you have to realize that our elected representatives in both the house and senate think we are ignorant of their intentions and actions and absolutely stupid in our abilities to determine right from wrong and whether or not something passes the common sense test. It is also very obvious that SEIU had a great deal to do with producing this crap-filled pro-union, personal liberty and financial independence destroying bill.

In response to a question from Joanne from PA concerning a class action suit against the house &/or senate concerning this bill’s violation of our Constitution. The short answer is no. Unfortunately the more correct answer is that (as I understand it from Judge Napolitano-Fox News contributor) is that someone who refuses to buy insurance and then refuses to pay the fine has to be charged first. Then, that individual has to take that litigation through the courts until that determination (or ruling) can be officially made. You may pose your question to Jay Sekulov at the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ). He also has a radio program where he can go into great detail.

Other than communicating our thoughts to our elected representatives in both houses articulating our thoughts, concerns and how we want to (or demand to be) represented in this as well as all the other critical issues that have head our way and continue to do so; remember what our founding fathers did when they were taxed without representation by King George. They actively rebelled after their submitted letters where they tried to address their grievances were ignored. There may come a time very soon when our redress of grievances may appear to have fallen on deaf ears and the protests of today turn into the rebellion of tomorrow.

]]> By: Bob, Virginia http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/19/the-five-flaws-of-the-reid-health-bill/#comment-70575 Bob, Virginia Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:48:30 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20127#comment-70575 For anyone to believe any good idea from a republican could clear the floor of the house or senate does not understand the agenda of President Obama. Better to spend your time trying to figure out what sweet heart deal the AARP got for selling out seniors. They are all about insurance. For anyone to believe any good idea from

a republican could clear the floor of the

house or senate does not understand the

agenda of President Obama. Better to spend your time trying to figure out

what sweet heart deal the AARP got for selling out seniors. They are all about

insurance.

]]> By: Senate Votes Obamacare One Step Closer to the Finish Line : Conservative Blog: Urban Conservative 2.0 – Conservative News & Politics http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/19/the-five-flaws-of-the-reid-health-bill/#comment-70532 Senate Votes Obamacare One Step Closer to the Finish Line : Conservative Blog: Urban Conservative 2.0 – Conservative News & Politics Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:47:42 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20127#comment-70532 [...] The Senate voted this evening by a 60-39 majority to commence debate on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s bill that would radically expand government control over private health care decisions. The bill is over [...] [...] The Senate voted this evening by a 60-39 majority to commence debate on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s bill that would radically expand government control over private health care decisions. The bill is over [...]

]]> By: lee jones http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/19/the-five-flaws-of-the-reid-health-bill/#comment-70568 lee jones Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:36:24 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20127#comment-70568 what i do not see in these comments is that this move to gain further control and redistibute income, Medicare is virtually distroyed. It transfers and rations care for seniors and "redistributes". Eskeil Emanual, Olinsky philosophy is prevailing. I never paid attention to Saul Olinsky and his radical community activism of the 60's. It is the play book for democrats, Obama and Clinton. It is working!! what i do not see in these comments is that this move to gain further control and redistibute income, Medicare is virtually distroyed. It transfers and rations care for seniors and "redistributes". Eskeil Emanual, Olinsky philosophy is prevailing. I never paid attention to Saul Olinsky and his radical community activism of the 60's. It is the play book for democrats, Obama and Clinton. It is working!!

]]> By: Harry, Illinois http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/19/the-five-flaws-of-the-reid-health-bill/#comment-70547 Harry, Illinois Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:45:39 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=20127#comment-70547 I challenge all of our representatives in both the H & S to STAND before the American Public to not only READ but EXPLAIN the bill yes all 2074 pages, or however many pages it turns out to be before voting on this bill. After all, if it is such a good bill this should be no problem. Divide the bill into however many sections they want and share in READING and EXPLAINING the PROPOSED bill including the honorable (ha)Senator Byrd. This way at least, we will know that they read the bill. Lets just call it a self imposed filibuster. I challenge all of our representatives in both the H & S to STAND before the American Public to not only READ but EXPLAIN the bill yes all 2074 pages, or however many pages it turns out to be before voting on this bill. After all, if it is such a good bill this should be no problem. Divide the bill into however many sections they want and share in READING and EXPLAINING the PROPOSED bill including the honorable (ha)Senator Byrd. This way at least, we will know that they read the bill. Lets just call it a self imposed filibuster.

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