Comments on: The Logic of Obamacare http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/13/the-logic-of-obamacare/ Fri, 25 May 2012 15:33:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Lynn B. DeSpain http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/13/the-logic-of-obamacare/#comment-68616 Lynn B. DeSpain Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:04:03 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=19821#comment-68616 The logic of Obama Care? Seriously? None. The logic of Obama Care? Seriously? None.

]]> By: Al, The Villages, Fl http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/13/the-logic-of-obamacare/#comment-68599 Al, The Villages, Fl Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:30:30 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=19821#comment-68599 One congressman on Fox News, when challenged on the Health CAre Bill, stated that we must believe in something. That and Reid/Pelosi with a majority to push things through results in the dismantling of our country with such bills as the health care bill, cap and trade, card check etc. Obamas' main objective, I think, is to remake America into a secular progressive government. All these bills are either favorites of the left (environment, socialism etc.) or is a means to consolidate and guarantee power. Obama uses carefully chosen words to sound like he is saying something different from that which he and congress are doing. He decries censorship and champions openness and dialogue in his meeting with students on his Asian trip yet, at home, his administration is going about finding a way to shut down talk radio and censor the opposition. One congressman on Fox News, when challenged on the Health CAre Bill, stated that we must believe in something. That and Reid/Pelosi with a majority to push things through results in the dismantling of our country with such bills as the health care bill, cap and trade, card check etc. Obamas' main objective, I think, is to remake America into a secular progressive government. All these bills are either favorites of the left (environment, socialism etc.) or is a means to consolidate and guarantee power. Obama uses carefully chosen words to sound like he is saying something different from that which he and congress are doing. He decries censorship and champions openness and dialogue in his meeting with students on his Asian trip yet, at home, his administration is going about finding a way to shut down talk radio and censor the opposition.

]]> By: Tim Az http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/13/the-logic-of-obamacare/#comment-68568 Tim Az Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:27:47 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=19821#comment-68568 Mao-Bama's Health care should in all honesty be called a death bill. It legislates death far more than life. If one is able to escape being aborted they have the good fortune of a life of servitude to their government until they are no longer an asset to the their government. At wich time they will no longer receive even the most meager of health care until death occurs. This will save the government a bundle in social security and all other benefits for senior citizens. What a country. How's that hope and change working out for you? Mao-Bama's Health care should in all honesty be called a death bill. It legislates death far more than life. If one is able to escape being aborted they have the good fortune of a life of servitude to their government until they are no longer an asset to the their government. At wich time they will no longer receive even the most meager of health care until death occurs. This will save the government a bundle in social security and all other benefits for senior citizens. What a country.

How's that hope and change working out for you?

]]> By: ACE SEZ http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/13/the-logic-of-obamacare/#comment-68561 ACE SEZ Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:08:07 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=19821#comment-68561 Surely, most certainly, the voters of the Bay Area that have supported Pelosi must realize by now they have foisted a demented old hag on the American people? She is anti Constitutional Gov't--so egotistical as to appear she didn't make it thru the menstural change with all her marbles---sack this idiot first chance you folks in SF get--save the USA from the ultra radical left crazies. Surely, most certainly, the voters of the Bay Area that have supported Pelosi must realize by now they have foisted a demented old hag on the American people?

She is anti Constitutional Gov't–so egotistical as to appear she didn't make it thru the menstural change with all her marbles—sack this idiot first chance you folks in SF get–save the USA from the ultra radical left crazies.

]]> By: T. Wilson, Texas http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/13/the-logic-of-obamacare/#comment-68548 T. Wilson, Texas Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:44:46 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=19821#comment-68548 Obviously the administration and Speaker Pelosi aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. If I can see this why don't they. Exactly who is it that will be paying "A Penalty" or going to jail for not purchasing this "Public Option Health Care Plan" ( which is an oximoron )? I'll tell you who, the YOUNG and generally healthy, the JOBLESS, the POOR who can't afford to spend money on any "extras" in their lives, and people like me, a PROUD AMERICAN, who will willingly go to jail to reject the governments over-reaching mandates that goes against Texas's sovereignty. The court costs for presenting all of us before a judge will be more exspensive than just taking the penalty for non compliance out of the bill. If "America" is under-employeed, wouldn't it make sense to get "America" back to work before you come up with another burdensom exspense that most freedom loving Americans don't want anyway. What America needs is JOBS STUPID........ Obviously the administration and Speaker Pelosi aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. If I can see this why don't they. Exactly who is it that will be paying "A Penalty" or going to jail for not purchasing this "Public Option Health Care Plan" ( which is an oximoron )? I'll tell you who, the YOUNG and generally healthy, the JOBLESS, the POOR who can't afford to spend money on any "extras" in their lives, and people like me, a PROUD AMERICAN, who will willingly go to jail to reject the governments over-reaching mandates that goes against Texas's sovereignty. The court costs for presenting all of us before a judge will be more exspensive than just taking the penalty for non compliance out of the bill.

If "America" is under-employeed, wouldn't it make sense to get "America" back to work before you come up with another burdensom exspense that most freedom loving Americans don't want anyway. What America needs is JOBS STUPID……..

]]> By: Jeanne Stotler, wood http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/13/the-logic-of-obamacare/#comment-68544 Jeanne Stotler, wood Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:33:22 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=19821#comment-68544 As a ret. Nurse I can tell you it doesn't matter if you are rich or poor for the quality of care you get, the Insurance co.s have driven up the cost, limited care,yet the people in congress don't care about that. The limiting of profits and regulating the co's output would help. The secrecy of congress also should be looked into. All of this bill including the PORK should be available for US, the PEOPLE to read. We are being snookered by a dishonest congress and administration. VOTE 2010 As a ret. Nurse I can tell you it doesn't matter if you are rich or poor for the quality of care you get, the Insurance co.s have driven up the cost, limited care,yet the people in congress don't care about that. The limiting of profits and regulating the co's output would help. The secrecy of congress also should be looked into. All of this bill including the PORK should be available for US, the PEOPLE to read. We are being snookered by a dishonest congress and administration. VOTE 2010

]]> By: Bulwyn http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/13/the-logic-of-obamacare/#comment-68520 Bulwyn Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:56:59 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=19821#comment-68520 Don't let these issues cloud the fact that This legislation is unconstitutional Don't let these issues cloud the fact that This legislation is unconstitutional

]]> By: E. J. America, Flori http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/13/the-logic-of-obamacare/#comment-68389 E. J. America, Flori Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:05:21 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=19821#comment-68389 It seems to me that there is a major issue with the cost curve that has not been addressed - yet will affect the curve sharply: Where is the money coming from to build the new courthouses, jails, staffing, and operational costs for all of the people who will be arrested for not buying health care? Think about it for one minute. It is a known fact that the court and prison systems in this country are beyond capacity now. How can we financially deal with the explosion of cases this bill will create? It seems to me that there is a major issue with the cost curve that has not been addressed – yet will affect the curve sharply: Where is the money coming from to build the new courthouses, jails, staffing, and operational costs for all of the people who will be arrested for not buying health care? Think about it for one minute. It is a known fact that the court and prison systems in this country are beyond capacity now. How can we financially deal with the explosion of cases this bill will create?

]]> By: Ringo Phonebone http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/13/the-logic-of-obamacare/#comment-68227 Ringo Phonebone Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:48:38 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=19821#comment-68227 The simplest and most direct means to provide universal health care to everyone would be to nationalize all clinics and hospitals and hire the people who run them as federal employees. That would cut out all the insurance company squabbling as there would be no need for "insurance". This fictitious scenario would at least be an honest attempt to fix the delivery system. But no, a 1990 page bill full of regulation, penalty and kickbacks is a better solution? I've given up expecting politicians to do right for the country. They are too busy doing what is right for them. The Government is run by the lobbyists with the most money. The founding fathers would to flee to another wilderness and start over again if they could see this mess. The simplest and most direct means to provide universal health care to everyone would be to nationalize all clinics and hospitals and hire the people who run them as federal employees. That would cut out all the insurance company squabbling as there would be no need for "insurance". This fictitious scenario would at least be an honest attempt to fix the delivery system. But no, a 1990 page bill full of regulation, penalty and kickbacks is a better solution?

I've given up expecting politicians to do right for the country. They are too busy doing what is right for them. The Government is run by the lobbyists with the most money. The founding fathers would to flee to another wilderness and start over again if they could see this mess.

]]> By: Roger S., Ma. http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/13/the-logic-of-obamacare/#comment-68226 Roger S., Ma. Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:32:22 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=19821#comment-68226 Bobbie Wright-AL: Obviously, the FOR part. He thinks "on behalf" and "for" are synonymous. We all know that they're not! "For" means to benefit (the people). "On behalf of" means, as their proxy. That's precisely what the Founders did NOT want, and had had their fill, somebody calling the shots for them and then asking them to say "thank you" and pay up! If BO really fails to see that distinction, one has to wonder how he made it into, much less through law school. On the other hand, I have a quite sinking feeling that many of our fellow citizens believe the same thing, that the two terms "effectively mean the same thing". Thanks to our Dewey based educational system which has failed to impress upon pupils that words have precise meanings and then to make them learn those. And that is all thanks to our pragmatic philosophy which has preached that to know the exact meaning of something is not too important. Close enough if it "somehow fits in", in context, mostly with our feelings. Many have a lot of remedial learning before them, I'll wager! Bobbie Wright-AL: Obviously, the FOR part. He thinks "on behalf" and "for" are synonymous. We all know that they're not! "For" means to benefit (the people). "On behalf of" means, as their proxy. That's precisely what the Founders did NOT want, and had had their fill, somebody calling the shots for them and then asking them to say "thank you" and pay up!

If BO really fails to see that distinction, one has to wonder how he made it into, much less through law school.

On the other hand, I have a quite sinking feeling that many of our fellow citizens believe the same thing, that the two terms "effectively mean the same thing". Thanks to our Dewey based educational system which has failed to impress upon pupils that words have precise meanings and then to make them learn those. And that is all thanks to our pragmatic philosophy which has preached that to know the exact meaning of something is not too important. Close enough if it "somehow fits in", in context, mostly with our feelings.

Many have a lot of remedial learning before them, I'll wager!

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