Comments on: Baucus Bill Does Not Bend the Cost Curve http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/04/baucus-bill-does-not-bend-the-cost-curve/ Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:53:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Patriot, Cincinnati, http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/04/baucus-bill-does-not-bend-the-cost-curve/#comment-66132 Patriot, Cincinnati, Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:47:39 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=19136#comment-66132 The more I read the greater I realize that this is not about our health and well-being. It is about government "power" and under the charade of health care, they will now be in the command towers of every American's life. There are many ways to correct the defecincies of our health care costs, Mediacare, etc. without "owning us". Remove the restrictions of fair competition and let our markets decide how to save us money and give us the best health coverage. If Washington signs this into law, we all loose, beginning with 30-45% of our doctors who say they will leave their practice. Show me one government program that saves us money or is not technically bankrupt? Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Veterans Admin., Post Office, etc., there is not one that is financially stable or even responsible. It is sad America, that we have allowed this to happen to our Country. It is time to say "no more" and use your voice and then your vote to stop this fraud producing government who is ruining our lives and that of our children. The more I read the greater I realize that this is not about our health and well-being. It is about government "power" and under the charade of health care, they will now be in the command towers of every American's life. There are many ways to correct the defecincies of our health care costs, Mediacare, etc. without "owning us".

Remove the restrictions of fair competition and let our markets decide how to save us money and give us the best health coverage. If Washington signs this into law, we all loose, beginning with 30-45% of our doctors who say they will leave their practice. Show me one government program that saves us money or is not technically bankrupt? Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Veterans Admin., Post Office, etc., there is not one that is financially stable or even responsible.

It is sad America, that we have allowed this to happen to our Country. It is time to say "no more" and use your voice and then your vote to stop this fraud producing government who is ruining our lives and that of our children.

]]> By: Daver Ft. Worth http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/04/baucus-bill-does-not-bend-the-cost-curve/#comment-66119 Daver Ft. Worth Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:15:02 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=19136#comment-66119 As Thanksgiving approaches and we are forced to contemplate the leftover turkey we selected last year, that is still giving us heartburn; the question becomes how best to dispose of the waste? Because like radioactive waste we need to insure that the group of radical elements that are currently buzzing around Washington have no lasting influence or ability to effect change in the future. So my first thought would be a moonshot, or if not, a potentially deserted island like the one Congressman Gutierrez always liked to stand in front of near Peurto Rico where they could experiment with all of their little Socialist thinkings, gay agendas and enjoy their legalized reefer and legal immigrations? But first we need to vote them, so read my lips: No New Socialists! As Thanksgiving approaches and we are forced to contemplate the leftover turkey we selected last year, that is still giving us heartburn; the question becomes how best to dispose of the waste?

Because like radioactive waste we need to insure that the group of radical elements that are currently buzzing around Washington have no lasting influence or ability to effect change in the future.

So my first thought would be a moonshot, or if not, a potentially deserted island like the one Congressman Gutierrez always liked to stand in front of near Peurto Rico where they could experiment with all of their little Socialist thinkings, gay agendas and enjoy their legalized reefer and legal immigrations?

But first we need to vote them, so read my lips:

No New Socialists!

]]> By: Freedom of Speech, T http://blog.heritage.org/2009/11/04/baucus-bill-does-not-bend-the-cost-curve/#comment-65915 Freedom of Speech, T Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:09:52 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=19136#comment-65915 Every time I hear a politician talk about "savings" I wonder what world these people live in. How can we "save" any money when we owe trillions in both funded and unfunded liabilities? What are we "saving"? Does "saving" mean they will not print or borrow as much money as they otherwise "could have"? Gee thanks. We don't "save" anything - never have. It is one gigantic shell game. Does anyone really believe the government is going to collect taxes for a health program and put it (save it) in a lockbox? Overall taxation and thus spending will not decrease. Even if they "save" some money in health care (which they won't), we will still get taxed to sustain the unpayable debt already accumulated. And, any money "saved" will be spent on something else. Thus, there is NEVER any OVERALL government savings". Conversely, we may get to a point where higher taxes cannot be reversed. Technically, the government cannot be bankrupt as they can always print more money. But what happens when our currency is virtually worthless? Can anyone say "banana republic"? Most of our financial and economic genuises who rule this country do not know how to legislate without spending - nor do they want to. Pork is power and they take your dollars to provide the pork. Instead of being creative and reducing government and its debt, the solution is to tax more and spend a whole lot more. HealthCare is one leg of the stool and it will not cover enough people at its cost to justify destroying good healthcare for the majority of the people. Can the tax and spenders be this stupid? I don't think so... Every time I hear a politician talk about "savings" I wonder what world these people live in.

How can we "save" any money when we owe trillions in both funded and unfunded liabilities?

What are we "saving"? Does "saving" mean they will not print or borrow as much money as they otherwise "could have"? Gee thanks. We don't "save" anything – never have. It is one gigantic shell game. Does anyone really believe the government is going to collect taxes for a health program and put it (save it) in a lockbox?

Overall taxation and thus spending will not decrease. Even if they "save" some money in health care (which they won't), we will still get taxed to sustain the unpayable debt already accumulated. And, any money "saved" will be spent on something else.

Thus, there is NEVER any OVERALL government savings". Conversely, we may get to a point where higher taxes cannot be reversed. Technically, the government cannot be bankrupt as they can always print more money. But what happens when our currency is virtually worthless? Can anyone say "banana republic"?

Most of our financial and economic genuises who rule this country do not know how to legislate without spending – nor do they want to. Pork is power and they take your dollars to provide the pork.

Instead of being creative and reducing government and its debt, the solution is to tax more and spend a whole lot more.

HealthCare is one leg of the stool and it will not cover enough people at its cost to justify destroying good healthcare for the majority of the people.

Can the tax and spenders be this stupid? I don't think so…

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