Comments on: CO2’s Political Fingerprint

By: Dirty Democrats » Trivia Tidbit of the Day: Part 689 — Targeting Red States.

Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:38:42 +0000

[...] There are political fingerprints all over the Obama administration’s CO2 plans: [...]

By: Freedom of Speech TX

Freedom of Speech TX — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:28:33 +0000

Dear Nicolai,

My apologies.

By: Stephanie, Washington DC

Stephanie, Washington DC — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:09:59 +0000

The non-partisan World Resources Institute recently analyzed the allowances under Waxman-Markey, and many of these states get the highest allowances, BECAUSE they are C02 intensive. http://pdf.wri.org/analysis_of_allowances_to_states_presentation.pdf

By: Nicolai Alatzas

Nicolai Alatzas — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:58:59 +0000

Hey Texas-

I was saying the author was implying that the author of this blog. I can’t really dispute anything you said. Your post hadn’t been posted when I wrote that.

Tonyfromoz-

Coal is cheap on the front end that is why WV is so cheap. It is harmful to the environment when mining harmful for the miners and harmful for any of the water sheds downwind from these ancient coal plants that were reactivated under George Bush’s clean air act. Which basically eliminated emissions on the plants. It is not because they have no incentives for Renewable Energy. I would be interested in seeing what industry contributes the most campaign funds in WV.

I would also like to note that the State of Louisiana has the best subsidies for Renewable Energy systems in the Country. Louisiana will pay for 50% of system cost for Residential or Commercial. However we pay some of the lowest flat rates in the country. And Louisiana is Red and Proud to be!

California for the most part only has Utility Rebates for Renewable Energy. Some of the corporate rates for electricity exceed 65 cents a kW. Anaheim California has the best renewable energy incentives in California and a moderate rate for their electricity which is far below the state average. Most interestingly the city of Anaheim runs their own utility.

Basically this information totally contradicts what you are implying.

By: B. Johnson, USA

B. Johnson, USA — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:59:38 +0000

Given that the federal Constitution is silent about climate issues, the 10th Amendment automatically reserves government power to address such issues to the states, not the Oval Office and Congress. So illegal C & T legislation is based on constitutionally nonexistent federal government powers.

By: Ella, DC

Ella, DC — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:09:33 +0000

Someone needs to show this to the Begich, Conrad, Dorgan, Landrieu, et. al.

It should also be shown to those in the House that voted for cap-and-tax that come from the states that will pay the heaviest price. Voters in their districts need to be made aware of this!

By: TonyfromOz, Coomera, Queensland, Australia.

TonyfromOz, Coomera, Queensland, Australia. — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:35:52 +0000

I hope you don’t mind if I take some space for a better explanation of what I’m trying to say.
Compare that graph above with the actual figures for electrical power consumption and costings at the Government’s own site at Energy Information Administration at this link.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/esr/table5.html

These figures are the most recent released in 2009 for the statistical year 2007, and for figures like this from so huge a source, they are always a year behind, but figures have been the same as averaged over the previous reporting year, and are close to what is still being consumed right now. Here I am referring to the Residential sector (37% of all consumed power) but figures are the same for the Commercial sector (35%) and the Industrial sector. (27%)

A simple comparison between the above chart and the EIA figures here shows for:

The left side of the graph.
10 States. 9 Republican. 5 of those 10 have the cheapest electrical power in the U.S. All are under, (most well under) the U.S. average, the exception being Alaska which has to import virtually all its coal, passing that cost on to consumers.

Right side of the graph.
10 States. 9 Democrat. 6 States of those 10 have the most expensive electrical power in the U.S. All bar one are over (most significantly well over) the average. The other 4 most expensive are in the next 5 Sates on the right side of the chart. (All Democrat)

Both CT and NY (right side) pay almost three times as much as WV, (left side)

Those States where it is cheapest (left side) have coal fired plants sited with coal mines, hence no transportation costs. Those States where it is expensive (right side) have to transport all their coal in.

Another startling example of those who have (left side) subsidising those who have not. (right side)
Tony.

By: PA Pundits - International

PA Pundits - International — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:02:00 +0000

CO2’s Political Fingerprint…

By Robert Gordon. Unless they had explicitly named them, the Senate’s Kerry-Boxer and the House’s Waxman-Markey global warming bills could not have been better designed to inflict more pain on the states that swung red in the last election than on …

By: Larry, Louisiana

Larry, Louisiana — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:42:59 +0000

Yeah that makes sense, tax the rural states, while the populated states consume more energy and food, and produce less.

It’s part of Obama’s great new plan to hamstring our economy into greatness.

Smug Americans don’t have it bad enough, so the Government and the Federal Reserve are going to show us just how bad the economy can get.

Then they’ll probably blame the cost increase on Capitalism.

By: Freedom of Speech, TX

Freedom of Speech, TX — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:35:31 +0000

Nicolai, Nicolai, Nicolai…

Nice play with words. You and our fearless leader are very good with that.

However, and to the point, California is the most populous state, right? Do you really believe that graph? What about Chicago? With its teaming millions and heated politics; there is enough for the entire state.

I am not implying anything.

I am stating that Americans cannot trust this government. Lie after Lie after Lie. And, when they are not lying, they hide by “omitting’ and “neglecting” to tell the truth.

Some Americans are very ignorant, but even an idiot will eventually recognize when he/she is being lied to – if repeated enough.

So, no. This Waxman-Markey, Kerry-Boxer graph does not surprise me at all.