<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The House Health Care Bill: New Taxpayer Subsidies</title>
	<atom:link href="http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/29/the-house-health-care-bill-new-taxpayer-subsidies/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/29/the-house-health-care-bill-new-taxpayer-subsidies/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:29:33 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Chris, Cincinnati</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/29/the-house-health-care-bill-new-taxpayer-subsidies/#comment-66925</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris, Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.foundry.org/?p=18648#comment-66925</guid>
		<description>The second paragraph contains a major inaccuracy: &quot;The reality is all they get is a chance to join the substandard government-run Medicaid plan. &quot; 
 
The majority of people covered by Medicaid in the US are covered under &quot;Medicaid Managed Care&quot; (MMO), which is neither &#039;substandard&#039; nor &#039;government-run&#039;.  
 
Outcome studies have consistently found that MMO outcomes are equal to (or in some cases better) than HMO outcomes for similar patients. Typically, MMOs have lower administrative overhead (since most are non-profit, altho that is not a requirement), and often provide long-term services that serve to decrease the cost of care over time, by increasing the general level of health among members. 
 
These entities are also stand-alone entities, run either as non-profits, cooperatives, or for-profit organizations...the states do not &#039;run&#039; them (as the article erroneuously suggests). The majority are operated on a &#039;capitated&#039; basis where the state pays the provider a set amount per member per month to provide contracted services. The negotation of provider networks, payment, and management is entirely independent of the &#039;government&#039;. 
 
I agree there are many flaws with the &#039;reform&#039; plan, but raising the Medicaid-qualification ceiling to 150% of the FPL is a relatively inexpensive way to offer healthcare services to an underserved group, in a proven and efficient manner. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second paragraph contains a major inaccuracy: &quot;The reality is all they get is a chance to join the substandard government-run Medicaid plan. &quot;</p>
<p>The majority of people covered by Medicaid in the US are covered under &quot;Medicaid Managed Care&quot; (MMO), which is neither &#039;substandard&#039; nor &#039;government-run&#039;. </p>
<p>Outcome studies have consistently found that MMO outcomes are equal to (or in some cases better) than HMO outcomes for similar patients. Typically, MMOs have lower administrative overhead (since most are non-profit, altho that is not a requirement), and often provide long-term services that serve to decrease the cost of care over time, by increasing the general level of health among members.</p>
<p>These entities are also stand-alone entities, run either as non-profits, cooperatives, or for-profit organizations&#8230;the states do not &#039;run&#039; them (as the article erroneuously suggests). The majority are operated on a &#039;capitated&#039; basis where the state pays the provider a set amount per member per month to provide contracted services. The negotation of provider networks, payment, and management is entirely independent of the &#039;government&#039;.</p>
<p>I agree there are many flaws with the &#039;reform&#039; plan, but raising the Medicaid-qualification ceiling to 150% of the FPL is a relatively inexpensive way to offer healthcare services to an underserved group, in a proven and efficient manner.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Garth</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/29/the-house-health-care-bill-new-taxpayer-subsidies/#comment-66878</link>
		<dc:creator>Garth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.foundry.org/?p=18648#comment-66878</guid>
		<description>This is great.  I can now retire and never have to work again.  Hey, socialism is cool. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great.  I can now retire and never have to work again.  Hey, socialism is cool.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: lance sjogren</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/29/the-house-health-care-bill-new-taxpayer-subsidies/#comment-66764</link>
		<dc:creator>lance sjogren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.foundry.org/?p=18648#comment-66764</guid>
		<description>&quot;A lot of people who shouldn&#8217;t qualify for subsidies, e.g., graduate students, property rich/income poor, could qualify for subsidies under this definition.&quot; 
 
I disagree.  If there are to be subsidies it seems fairest to base it strictly on income. 
 
Consider my case as an example.  I am an early retiree and I have insurance with my former employer, although I pay the lion&#039;s share of the premium, unlike when I was working and the employer paid most of the premium. 
 
I own some real estate and stocks.  Those are my retirement assets that should allow me to be financially secure through old age, but will not allow me a life of luxury.  As an example, I no longer own a car, I use transit. 
 
Those assets serve exactly the same role for me as a pension plan does for those who have one.   
 
They constitute &quot;wealth&quot;, but I am not rich, that &quot;wealth&quot; simply provides me with the means to pay for food and rent, etc. as a retiree. 
 
Now suppose those assets appreciate greatly in value.  If they grew to millions of dollars then I would certainly not be deserving of a government subsidy on health care based on need. 
 
But the point is, those assets are for the purpose of income.  If they grew large, then my income from those assets would become large also, and a health care subsidy strictly based on income would do exactly what it was supposed to do, screen out people like me under that scenario, that shouldn&#039;t get a subsidy. 
 
So my argument is that income is, in fact, the proper criterion to determine who gets a subsidy and how much they get. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;A lot of people who shouldn&rsquo;t qualify for subsidies, e.g., graduate students, property rich/income poor, could qualify for subsidies under this definition.&quot;</p>
<p>I disagree.  If there are to be subsidies it seems fairest to base it strictly on income.</p>
<p>Consider my case as an example.  I am an early retiree and I have insurance with my former employer, although I pay the lion&#039;s share of the premium, unlike when I was working and the employer paid most of the premium.</p>
<p>I own some real estate and stocks.  Those are my retirement assets that should allow me to be financially secure through old age, but will not allow me a life of luxury.  As an example, I no longer own a car, I use transit.</p>
<p>Those assets serve exactly the same role for me as a pension plan does for those who have one.  </p>
<p>They constitute &quot;wealth&quot;, but I am not rich, that &quot;wealth&quot; simply provides me with the means to pay for food and rent, etc. as a retiree.</p>
<p>Now suppose those assets appreciate greatly in value.  If they grew to millions of dollars then I would certainly not be deserving of a government subsidy on health care based on need.</p>
<p>But the point is, those assets are for the purpose of income.  If they grew large, then my income from those assets would become large also, and a health care subsidy strictly based on income would do exactly what it was supposed to do, screen out people like me under that scenario, that shouldn&#039;t get a subsidy.</p>
<p>So my argument is that income is, in fact, the proper criterion to determine who gets a subsidy and how much they get.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: DavidE</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/29/the-house-health-care-bill-new-taxpayer-subsidies/#comment-66610</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.foundry.org/?p=18648#comment-66610</guid>
		<description>A problem in the Senate bill was that FPL was defined in terms of adjusted gross income (AGI) as calculated for tax purposes.  
 
A lot of people who shouldn&#039;t qualify for subsidies, e.g., graduate students, property rich/income poor, could qualify for subsidies under this definition. Normally the poverty line figures are intended to include all types of income including gifts and nontaxable income. 
 
I am not sure how this has been dealt with in the latest version of the bill. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A problem in the Senate bill was that FPL was defined in terms of adjusted gross income (AGI) as calculated for tax purposes. </p>
<p>A lot of people who shouldn&#039;t qualify for subsidies, e.g., graduate students, property rich/income poor, could qualify for subsidies under this definition. Normally the poverty line figures are intended to include all types of income including gifts and nontaxable income.</p>
<p>I am not sure how this has been dealt with in the latest version of the bill.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Morning Bell: The Public Option Is Neither Public, Nor An Option &#124; Conservative Principles Now</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/29/the-house-health-care-bill-new-taxpayer-subsidies/#comment-65659</link>
		<dc:creator>Morning Bell: The Public Option Is Neither Public, Nor An Option &#124; Conservative Principles Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.foundry.org/?p=18648#comment-65659</guid>
		<description>[...] denied access to the new government plan. The bill does expand Medicaid eligibility to 150% FPL but it also appears to deny access to those who are “eligible” for Medicaid. This simply gives the false impression that poor people will get a choice of better care under [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] denied access to the new government plan. The bill does expand Medicaid eligibility to 150% FPL but it also appears to deny access to those who are “eligible” for Medicaid. This simply gives the false impression that poor people will get a choice of better care under [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Morning Bell: The Public Option Is Neither Public, Nor An Option &#124; Fix Health Care Policy</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/29/the-house-health-care-bill-new-taxpayer-subsidies/#comment-65586</link>
		<dc:creator>Morning Bell: The Public Option Is Neither Public, Nor An Option &#124; Fix Health Care Policy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.foundry.org/?p=18648#comment-65586</guid>
		<description>[...] denied access to the new government plan. The bill does expand Medicaid eligibility to 150% FPL but it also appears to deny access to those who are “eligible” for Medicaid. This simply gives the false impression that poor people will get a choice of better care under [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] denied access to the new government plan. The bill does expand Medicaid eligibility to 150% FPL but it also appears to deny access to those who are “eligible” for Medicaid. This simply gives the false impression that poor people will get a choice of better care under [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Morning Bell: The Pelosi Blueprint for Government Run Health Care &#124; Conservative Principles Now</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/29/the-house-health-care-bill-new-taxpayer-subsidies/#comment-64950</link>
		<dc:creator>Morning Bell: The Pelosi Blueprint for Government Run Health Care &#124; Conservative Principles Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.foundry.org/?p=18648#comment-64950</guid>
		<description>[...] The bill also provides &#8220;affordability credits&#8221; to people who are below 400% FPL. However, the bill also denies access to the credit for all people who are &#8220;eligible&#8221; for... In essence, therefore, the House bill forces all Americans below 150% FPL to enroll in Medicaid or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The bill also provides &#8220;affordability credits&#8221; to people who are below 400% FPL. However, the bill also denies access to the credit for all people who are &#8220;eligible&#8221; for&#8230; In essence, therefore, the House bill forces all Americans below 150% FPL to enroll in Medicaid or [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

