Comments on: The Senate’s Public Plan “Opt Out” – More Optics than Option for the States http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/26/the-senate%e2%80%99s-public-plan-%e2%80%9copt-out%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-more-optics-than-option-for-the-states/ Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:27:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Hiram, AR http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/26/the-senate%e2%80%99s-public-plan-%e2%80%9copt-out%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-more-optics-than-option-for-the-states/#comment-65318 Hiram, AR Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:39:30 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=18063#comment-65318 The Democratic Party believes they were put in office not to represent us but to lord over us. The healthcare proposals Democrats are working on are going to cost Americans dearly. The current proposals require taxation and fees for several years before it takes affect. The government has shown it cannot be trusted to place these fees into a healthcare savings account and keep their hands out of it. Look at what they have done to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. The unfunded liability placed on the American taxpayer is unconstrained thoughtlessness and unbelievable. Congress’ fiduciary responsibilities are beyond terrible, their criminal. Why are the healthcare-bills being written in secrecy and rammed down our throats? We would expect this of dictatorial style governments, not in a Democracy. I am surprised at the lock-step vote on healthcare legislation being considered in both Chambers of Congress. I cannot envision the Democrat Party disregarding the opinions of the majority of the American public and deliberately interfering with and devastating the healthcare for 80-85 percent of Americans. Over 20-million will not be covered with the new health care legislation. Are American citizens disqualified and illegal immigrants qualified? Will the debts in union’s health care programs be paid-in full? Does the fear/intimidation of President Obama outweigh the integrity of the Democrat Party? Is your constituency irrelevant? Have you considered the impact on your own family members, now and in the future? This is disgraceful. The sinister partisan secrecy writing of this bill strikes me as Marxism. Democrats choose to blind themselves to this and the needs of their constituents. Open your eyes, your Christian hearts, listen to the people, not the President. The Democratic Party believes they were put in office not to represent us but to lord over us.

The healthcare proposals Democrats are working on are going to cost Americans dearly. The current proposals require taxation and fees for several years before it takes affect. The government has shown it cannot be trusted to place these fees into a healthcare savings account and keep their hands out of it. Look at what they have done to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. The unfunded liability placed on the American taxpayer is unconstrained thoughtlessness and unbelievable. Congress’ fiduciary responsibilities are beyond terrible, their criminal.

Why are the healthcare-bills being written in secrecy and rammed down our throats? We would expect this of dictatorial style governments, not in a Democracy.

I am surprised at the lock-step vote on healthcare legislation being considered in both Chambers of Congress. I cannot envision the Democrat Party disregarding the opinions of the majority of the American public and deliberately interfering with and devastating the healthcare for 80-85 percent of Americans.

Over 20-million will not be covered with the new health care legislation. Are American citizens disqualified and illegal immigrants qualified? Will the debts in union’s health care programs be paid-in full?

Does the fear/intimidation of President Obama outweigh the integrity of the Democrat Party? Is your constituency irrelevant? Have you considered the impact on your own family members, now and in the future? This is disgraceful.

The sinister partisan secrecy writing of this bill strikes me as Marxism. Democrats choose to blind themselves to this and the needs of their constituents. Open your eyes, your Christian hearts, listen to the people, not the President.

]]> By: Morning Bell: No Matter What You Call It, It’s Still Just Government-Run Health Care | Conservative Principles Now http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/26/the-senate%e2%80%99s-public-plan-%e2%80%9copt-out%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-more-optics-than-option-for-the-states/#comment-64943 Morning Bell: No Matter What You Call It, It’s Still Just Government-Run Health Care | Conservative Principles Now Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:41:29 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=18063#comment-64943 [...] Harry Reid: Reid provided very few details for his “opt out” proposal, but here is what we do know: the government run plan would be available on the [...] [...] Harry Reid: Reid provided very few details for his “opt out” proposal, but here is what we do know: the government run plan would be available on the [...]

]]> By: Paul Terry Stone http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/26/the-senate%e2%80%99s-public-plan-%e2%80%9copt-out%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-more-optics-than-option-for-the-states/#comment-64607 Paul Terry Stone Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:24:17 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=18063#comment-64607 If we've still got to pay the increased taxes for nothing if the state opts out, that"s not much choice. If we've still got to pay the increased taxes for nothing if the state opts out, that"s not much choice.

]]> By: napoleon http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/26/the-senate%e2%80%99s-public-plan-%e2%80%9copt-out%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-more-optics-than-option-for-the-states/#comment-64597 napoleon Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:52:04 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=18063#comment-64597 Stop "KILLING" your children,this is about family health,and lower cost,"DUMMY". Stop "KILLING" your children,this is about family health,and lower cost,"DUMMY".

]]> By: Esther Martinez, NJ http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/26/the-senate%e2%80%99s-public-plan-%e2%80%9copt-out%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-more-optics-than-option-for-the-states/#comment-64554 Esther Martinez, NJ Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:18:58 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=18063#comment-64554 This plan is consistent with standard government's solutions. The banks that caused the recent economic recession were "too big to fail", government's fix, make them bigger. We had too much debt, government's fix, more debt. On enforcement of rules, lets control salaries of certain banks, but not Goldman Sachs, who would donate to the party. Now with medical care, the problem is cost. Driving the costs are: overbilling of the self paying patient required by medicaid insurance, liability risks and separation between consumer and payor. The government's solutions are: 1. More medicaid insurance, more overbilling of the self paying patient. 2. No liability reform, government needs the trial lawyers contributions. 3. More insurance, that is more separation between those who use health care and those who pay for it. It appears to me that the solution to the problem is always to increase the problem while protecting the untouchables such as Goldman Sachs and the trial lawyers. This plan is consistent with standard government's solutions. The banks that caused the recent economic recession were "too big to fail", government's fix, make them bigger. We had too much debt, government's fix, more debt. On enforcement of rules, lets control salaries of certain banks, but not Goldman Sachs, who would donate to the party.

Now with medical care, the problem is cost. Driving the costs are: overbilling of the self paying patient required by medicaid insurance, liability risks and separation between consumer and payor. The government's solutions are: 1. More medicaid insurance, more overbilling of the self paying patient.

2. No liability reform, government needs the trial lawyers contributions.

3. More insurance, that is more separation between those who use health care and those who pay for it.

It appears to me that the solution to the problem is always to increase the problem while protecting the untouchables such as Goldman Sachs and the trial lawyers.

]]> By: vero ricci, browns m http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/26/the-senate%e2%80%99s-public-plan-%e2%80%9copt-out%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-more-optics-than-option-for-the-states/#comment-64530 vero ricci, browns m Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:13:17 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=18063#comment-64530 Please, please plan on removing democratic idiots from all our governing bodies. Especially the leader, Obama Please, please plan on removing democratic idiots from all our governing bodies. Especially the leader, Obama

]]> By: Morning Bell: No Matter What You Call It, It’s Still Just Government-Run Health Care | Fix Health Care Policy http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/26/the-senate%e2%80%99s-public-plan-%e2%80%9copt-out%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-more-optics-than-option-for-the-states/#comment-64459 Morning Bell: No Matter What You Call It, It’s Still Just Government-Run Health Care | Fix Health Care Policy Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:02:34 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=18063#comment-64459 [...] Harry Reid: Reid provided very few details for his “opt out” proposal, but here is what we do know: the government run plan would be available on the [...] [...] Harry Reid: Reid provided very few details for his “opt out” proposal, but here is what we do know: the government run plan would be available on the [...]

]]> By: Jeff, Grand Rapids http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/26/the-senate%e2%80%99s-public-plan-%e2%80%9copt-out%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-more-optics-than-option-for-the-states/#comment-64398 Jeff, Grand Rapids Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:13:00 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=18063#comment-64398 ditto to Brandon, AR. I do not believe health care or insurance are in the bill of rights. The Constitution does limit the rights of the federal government. ditto to Brandon, AR. I do not believe health care or insurance are in the bill of rights. The Constitution does limit the rights of the federal government.

]]> By: Brandon, AR http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/26/the-senate%e2%80%99s-public-plan-%e2%80%9copt-out%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-more-optics-than-option-for-the-states/#comment-64215 Brandon, AR Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:54:22 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=18063#comment-64215 "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

]]> By: Leon, Durango, CO http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/26/the-senate%e2%80%99s-public-plan-%e2%80%9copt-out%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-more-optics-than-option-for-the-states/#comment-64005 Leon, Durango, CO Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:40:14 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=18063#comment-64005 We have a public 'plan' and it is Joe Stalin's plan to wreck the private medical system so as to put in a government run medical system. Then the government can do anything they want to you and call it "medicine". We have the 'plan' were hospitals subsidize Emergency Rooms where costs are spread to those who pay for service. The 'plan' causes hospitals to fail, doctors to give up in disgust, and patients to lose service. It wouldn't take much to put Health Care back on a healthy path. Let's say if you want to be a government monkey, then buy Government Health Insurance. But anybody dealing with the government knows they take forever to pay their bills. With the GEMA's (government employee mutuals), the VETERANS, AIG, GM, the actual government Health Insurance option is already there. Medicare, Medicaid, throw in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, there is plenty of government option. Give us a citizen OPT OUT. We have a public 'plan' and it is Joe Stalin's plan to wreck the private medical system so as to put in a government run medical system. Then the government can do anything they want to you and call it "medicine". We have the 'plan' were hospitals subsidize Emergency Rooms where costs are spread to those who pay for service. The 'plan' causes hospitals to fail, doctors to give up in disgust, and patients to lose service.

It wouldn't take much to put Health Care back on a healthy path. Let's say if you want to be a government monkey, then buy Government Health Insurance. But anybody dealing with the government knows they take forever to pay their bills. With the GEMA's (government employee mutuals), the VETERANS, AIG, GM, the actual government Health Insurance option is already there. Medicare, Medicaid, throw in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, there is plenty of government option.

Give us a citizen OPT OUT.

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