Comments on: Global Warming Roulette

By: Dan Pangburn, AZ

Dan Pangburn, AZ — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:55:00 +0000

Milan,

The method and data source (NOAA) are completely presented so that ANYONE can repeat the work. If they do, they will discover the same thing that I did. Climate Change is natural.

By: Milan

Milan — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:38:51 +0000

Dan, As I pointed out here, your self-published article has as much credibility as a blog post. By contrast, the Fourth Assessment Report of the IPCC has been subjected to a massive amount of scientific scrutiny - including consideration of whether observed changes in temperature can be attributed to sunspots. When their climate models are run using only natural forcings (including solar factors), they fail to explain observed temperature changes in all continents and the global ocean. When anthropogenic forcings are incorporated, the model output is consistent with observations. This chart is from p. 6 of the Summary for Policymakers from the 4AR Synthesis Report (PDF).

By: Dave, Bellingham, Wa

Dave, Bellingham, Wa — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:31:39 +0000

Dan!

Thanks for your work and thank you for the link. The graph and the described method are extremely persuasive. Is it possible that this relationship is what Steve McIntyre has alluded to recently?

By: Dan Pangburn

Dan Pangburn — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:20:18 +0000

It is easy to show that it doesn't matter what the CO2 level is. All of the global average temperatures for the entire 20th century and on into the 21st century are readily calculated with no consideration whatsoever needed of changes to the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide or any other greenhouse gas. The method is a straight-forward application of the first law of thermodynamics and uses only the time-integral of sunspot count and 32-year long up trends and down trends that have an amplitude of 0.45 C and are probably related to the Pacific Decadal Oscillation. Data sources, a graph that overlays the measured and calculated temperatures from 1880 to 2008 and a detailed description of the method are in a new paper at http://climaterealists.com/index.php?tid=145&... . The standard deviation of the difference between concurrent calculated and measured average global temperatures is 0.064 C. There is no Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) (and therefore no human caused climate change) from added atmospheric carbon dioxide.

By: redpens, PA

redpens, PA — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:01:02 +0000

Why hasn't anybody committed James Hansen to a mental

institution yet? Capping CO2 would be like telling rain to stop

falling. Global warming, climate change, or whatever the left

is calling it this week, isn't caused by man's activities. Two words sums up climate change; MOTHER NATURE!!!

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Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:14:11 +0000

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By: Ed in California

Ed in California — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:55:58 +0000

If all the Ice Caps melt, that would take care of our water shortages and one other good thing will come out of that. We could farm the areas where the Ice Caps melted. Look at all the food we could raise and keep feeding those who only produce children to starve to death. Africa could use the extra water and we could use the new Continents for cities and farms. Let's get this Global Warming going and let us speed it up. Iceland would become a Tropical Paradise then.

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By: Freedom of Speech TX

Freedom of Speech TX — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:27:31 +0000

Assuming all the ice is melting, just how are we going to get China, India, and Russia onboard? We cannot even get the UN to stop Iran. Does anyone believe the Russians, Chinese, and Indians are going to wreck their economies. But, we are willing to wreck ours, right?

The climate has been changing for eons. It will continue to change long after we are gone. Meanwhile, where is the ice age that was predicted in the 1970s?

This is just a way for powerful officials to have a "cause" to get elected and for powerful people to get filthy rich.

Get rich with private investment NOT taxpayer dollars. There is already too much waste.

By: tony a media pa.

tony a media pa. — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:08:36 +0000

things we cant control: forest fires,floods,earthquakes,tornados,snowstorms,hail,hurricans,elninos,erosion,sickness and dying but we can control global warming by cap and trade GIVE ME A BREAKgg