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  • Secret Obamacare Negotiations Enter Day 6

    The Washington Post reports:

    [A]s a Senate vote on health-care legislation nears, those negotiations are occurring in a setting that is anything but revolutionary in Washington: Three senators are working on the bill behind closed doors. Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) sits at the head of a wooden table at his office as he and Sens. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.) and Max Baucus (D-Mont.) work to merge two competing versions of health-care legislation into one bill. The three men will be joined by top aides as well as by members of President Obama’s health-care team, led by White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. The sessions started on Wednesday and could be completed this week.

    It is shocking that this Administration’s promise to have the “most open and transparent in history” is not as important as getting this bill to the President’s desk by the end of the year. Instead liberals in Congress are crafting Obamacare in secret, so they can railroad a bill through before the American people can raise objections to an Obamacare bill written in this secretive and closed proceeding.

    Democracy does not begin and end on Election Day for the American people. Whether you are for or against Obamacare, we the people deserve an opportunity to read, digest and understand the most important health care legislation to be debated in the United States Senate in our lifetime. The American people relied upon the promise of the Obama Administration and the leadership in Congress to be open and transparent, therefore it is time to stop the closed door negotiations and allow the American people to participate in the democratic process.

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    33 Responses to Secret Obamacare Negotiations Enter Day 6

    1. Freedom of Speech TX says:

      And, they claim they "represent" the people?

      Polls and the American public overwhelmingly have made their point clear.

      We want transparency. We want ALL OF THEM to read the bill. We WANT the opportunity to read the bill before a vote as taken. WE DO NOT want a public option.

      Senator Snowe, we DO NOT WANT A TRIGGER, which will lead to government control.

      This is beyond arrogant. History will remember these people as fools.

      When they do not listen to the majority of the people, they do not represent us.

      The disgust many people already feel is bordering on hatred.

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    3. Bobbie Jay says:

      And emotions enabled by the choiced ignorance and pompous attitudes of liars, cheats, SNEAKS and thieves in government leadership. The president PROMISED HEALTH CARE REFORM. He misled the people to be convinced it is a good thing. Only to find out this will to take-over 1/6th of the economy. Which will take-over more and more.

      Misleading the public alone, should've killed the bill. He hears the people don't want it, but he insists the people do? "I promised this to the people and i will get it done." What people, Mr. Obama? You didn't say this would cost freedoms and liberties of the people?

      He's using brain washing. He either promises the impossible or threatens the despicable. He fabricates the results with nothing but rhetoric, if his plan isn't put through. He threatens higher insurance premiums, if his plan doesn't go through. The government will mandate higher premiums just for punishment of the free. And then they give in, one private industry after another.

      WE ALL KNOW HIS DECEIT ON TRANSPARENCY, SO WHY DOES ANYONE TRUST HIM ON ANYTHING? Especially business owners in the private sector and church leadership? Know your rights and God's Will, protect and look out for each other. STAND UP! DON'T FALL DOWN! SPECIAL INTERESTS ISN'T AMERICA! SPECIAL INTERESTS ARE THEIR OWN at their own expense.

    4. DM, Chicago says:

      What can be done now about closed door secrecy – a day late and a dollar short – they won the election. It will be too late by next election to right the wrong and they know it.

    5. PPotter, New Jersey says:

      This is total insanity. We WILL remember at the polls.

    6. Tom Iowa says:

      The Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights set presidence for the removal of any politician that acts against the Constitution or the people. It is called Impeachment. It can be raised by the people to the State then onto the Federal Government to remove those in offence.

      The actions of the President and others in Congress has been displaid over and over again as being against the people and the Constitution and they need to be removed.. Not by vote, But by impeachment as laid out in the Constitution.

    7. Raccman - Califon, N says:

      This President and his Czar cronies along with Reid and Pelosi will go down in history as being the most corrupt administration intent on controlling all aspects of our lives as they "nudge" the U.S. into becoming a SOCIALISTIC country ! I seriously wonder if we will be able to recover after the damages this

      phoney, no experience, Marxist leaves the White House !

    8. Jerry Norwood Mass says:

      If this does not happen, we need to vent our anger at the polls in 2010. No incumbements whether they be republican or democrat should get

      a vote. If some have no oponents then assure you

      do a write in even if it is mickey mouse. I am

      68 and never thought I would see the day. Barack

      Obama , Nancy Pelosi , Harry Reid, Baucas, Dodd,

      Waxman all should be asked to resign. Impeachment

      should happen to Barack Obama. He has violated the constitution and has not represented the true

      americans in this country. When they leave for

      recess we need a walk on Washington bigger than the Tea Party walk recently, surround the capital

      and senate offices and do not allow them to return to the senate halls to continue their assault on America. Let them know they are fired.

      We need a revolution like this to allow or negotiation of our rights not the groups that make up such a small portion of this country.

    9. tfamerican - Pinole, says:

      America has suffered through this kind of corruption in the past and we will overcome our recent setback. That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger…………….

    10. Denice, Idaho says:

      We will have time to make a difference if we all get out and vote next fall. A lot of this plan doesn't go into effect until 2012 or 2013 and by then, let's try to have changed the senate and the congress majorities to give us a fighting chance. We certainly are not being given one right now, but we have to work on this non-stop and stick to it!

    11. Denice, Idaho says:

      Addendum: it IS important to stop this crazy global warming agenda that is suppose to happen in December, when we will become lackies to the UN and they will call the shots. We will be a third world country for certain!

    12. Allen Cochrane LaC says:

      Can ANYONE Stop this Steamroller????

      What can we do?

    13. JD, alabama says:

      It shows how much contempt this admistration has for the American people and our Constitution.

      The question is: what are we going to do about it?

    14. NEAL RASMUSSEN says:

      THEY SAY IT HAS BEEN 60 PLUS YEARS THAT THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP AND FAILED SO IT NEEDS TO BE PASSED NOW.I SAY HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO SAY WE DO NOT WANT IT BEFORE THEY ABANDON THE IDEA……THEY NEVER GIVE UP WEARING DOWN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN ARGUE ABOUT THINGS AFTER THEY ARE DECIDED.

    15. JD, alabama says:

      There is a movement afoot to impeach Obama. Don't know how serious it is, but it's growing.

      https://fs7.formsite.com/C4Strategies/form4650611

    16. Alice Urban Jamestow says:

      This is the E-Mail I have sent to the North Dakota Rep and Senators. I am age 70 and am extremely concerned about these and other issues. I am satisfied with my health plan! Please help me and others like me!

      I am yet again writing to express my COMPLETE OBJECTION of the idea of a PUBLIC OPTION or any type of a so called CO-OPS or EXCHANGES in our health care system as well as those so called “TRIGGER” threats that have been thrown around which would end up the same way, with me and millions of others losing our health insurance benefits we have worked so hard to obtain. I do believe our present system is very expensive but it is also the very best in the World and I do agree that some additional things need to be added to offer insurance to those who are the uninsurable, however; this is not the way to fix it.

      From recent calculations, only about 10 to 13 million of us are “uninsurable” and that is what needs to be fixed. Several individuals have suggested MEANINGFUL TORT REFORM, TAX CREDITS, and INDIVIDUAL SAVINGS ACCOUNTS for those of us who are not insurable, removing restrictions from citizens being able to PURCHASE HEALTH INSURANCE ACROSS STATE LINES, and I’m sure there are other ways of achieving this goal without wrecking the entire health system and our private health insurance which are so extremely important for the rest of us. All of the current “health bills” in the House or Senate need to be destroyed and started from scratch with the ideas in the beginning of this paragraph being given the most of considerations!

      The waste of our tax monies in the so-called “stimulus package” including all of the incredible pork and the infamous ACORN, along with its many equally corrupt tentacles, is disgusting to me and so many others! The so called “CAP AND TRADE” is yet another issue which has to be completely killed! When it is 20 and 30 below zero most of us do not need to sacrifice more in order to heat our homes. It is time to stop doing “pay back” to the large unions and other special interest groups and to listen to “We the People” who have been categorized so disrespectfully by our own Government during the last several months. We have been screaming and have still not been heard!

    17. fedupandfrustrated, says:

      Can ObamaCare be reversed and stopped when the "powers that be" are all replaced with smart, conservative patriots in 2010 & 2012?

    18. Pollyanna, Laguna Be says:

      I'm ready to sign anything to get Obama and his crowd of cronies out of the White House and get back to "normal!" The American people have spoken, we don't want government controlled healthcare, media, or anything else!! It's looking more and more "socialistic" out there – scary!!

    19. Bill Gaerttner says:

      If it were found that any healthcare organization were promised favorite treatment or threatened by the government in secret meetings it should be considered a high crime. If emails and phone calls are recorded why are secret meetings overlooked. America is totally corrupt

    20. Ham Lake MN says:

      Blah, blah, blah. If our collective outrage mattered to these Domestic Enemies of our Constitution they would be reacting by now.

      You can not use passive resistance in dealing with Marxists as they have no sense of guilt. To them the ends always justify the means. You might say that they are "Souless".

      I agree with my good brother from AL, what are WE, us, you and me, going to do about?

      It was average Farmers and Shop Keepers that stood their ground at Lexington and Concord.

    21. Ham Lake MN says:

      What do we do. We exercise our rights under the Second Amendment.

    22. Bud b says:

      Why are we even considering the unconstitutional Baucus bill. See Constitution Article one Section 7!!!!!!

    23. Craig Houston Texas says:

      We may be living in the last throws of our great nation as we know it. This administration will be viewed in history as the final blow to many years of apethy by the American voter. The Marxist/Socialist are on the verge of victory over capitalism. When the press no longer serves as a watch dog, these things happen right under our noses. The last bastion of hope in the press is now being targeted. We must alert our friends and neighbors.

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    25. Jerry from Chicago says:

      What happened to Mr. Obama's promise of a "transparent" administration? We have it; you can see right through them.

      I don't know about everyone else, but I remember Mr. Obama saying that the debate over health care reform legislation would be broadcast on CSPAN and include doctors, nurses, insurance company representatives and other professionals in the health care industry.

      Well, it seems that it isn't going to play out quite that way. What a cast of characters, three guys in the bag for Obama. Harry Reid, who gets an exemption for his state, to whatever health care bill they come up with. Chris Dodd, the overseer of Fannie Mae and the forgetful author of the Stimulus Bill provision that authorized AIG big-wigs getting their handsome bonuses and Max (this will reduce the deficit) Baucus.

      All of whom will be kept on task by 'walking boss' Rahm 'Rambo' Emanuel.

      They know what's best for you, regardless of what you think and they will tell you. So shut up and do what you're told.

    26. Louis L Cesar F Levy says:

      Never, never Craig Houston react that way; you give form to a formless endeavor-UNLESS OF COURSE WE DO NOTHING ABOUT IT- can we be so dumb-struck-sleepy?I don't think so. With serene Head and Eyes lets examine and find the BEST ATTITUDE-ACTIONS to SAVE our Country. Not however from Marxists who-are-only-toy-between-our-TRUE ENEMY'MANIPULATIVE HAND. Let them leftists Understand it and ACT or We WILL HAVE TO,IN ORDER SOLVE THE PROBLEME. UNKNOWN DIMENSIONS OF THIS WAR AGAINST US ARE BEING MANIFESTED UNDER OUR EYES,IF WE CAN SEE. IF SO, WE CAN ALSO- AND MUST- ACT ACCORDINGLY.

    27. Louise says:

      Right on to all of those who want this stopped. We can stop this but we have to build our base, keep on sending,phoning, emailing and marching. Eventually, we will have to bond together and march on Washington if we really want to get this stopped. Also petition for impeachment. This country has and still is too big, great with wonderful people who have fought and given too many lives to just let another group walk away with our freedom. We have to stay united in our purpose and pray, pray, pray. We need a leader who will unite us all. Stand up for freedom and America.

    28. West Texas says:

      I am with Tom from Iowa – IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPPEACH – we need to get the petitions going!

    29. S M, California says:

      Obama the BILLION dollar president bought with monies coming in from untraceable sources over the internet!!!! Remember he wanted everyones e-mail so he could keep in touch, well you have no idea how that was used by hackers to submit the monies, most likely from overseas.

    30. Paul Terry Stone says:

      Congress and the White House doesn't represent us any more. Apparently the voting process is just a sham and may not even exist next year as a figure head of Democracy.

    31. Harry, Illinois says:

      Noam Chompsys' conclusions are nearly always skewed wrong but his observation is correct(paraphrased):

      Democracy thrives on the free flow of information and dictatorships thrive on secrecy.

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    33. MG; NJ says:

      Clearly there is an agenda that has nothing to do with what the majority wants. Clearly Congress is overstepping its role as defined by the Constitution. I've written letters; have encouraged others to write letters— still, nothing. They don't listen. We need to vote them out– and this won't be done unless we actually get out there and vote, because you know the people on the dole will be out to vote to keep them in.

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