Comments on: Adult Time for Adult Crime: Sentencing Under Siege http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/19/adult-time-for-adult-crime-sentencing-under-siege/ Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:53:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: calgary alberta http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/19/adult-time-for-adult-crime-sentencing-under-siege/#comment-199712 calgary alberta Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:38:03 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17449#comment-199712 It's also time to stop giving time off for supposedly good behavior, whereby convicts spend only 1/4, 1/3 or less of their sentence!!!!!!! It's also time to stop giving time off for supposedly good behavior, whereby convicts spend only 1/4, 1/3 or less of their sentence!!!!!!!

]]> By: osvaldo flores http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/19/adult-time-for-adult-crime-sentencing-under-siege/#comment-106774 osvaldo flores Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:51:44 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17449#comment-106774 i believe that juveniles beign sentenced for adult time is very wrong... my opinion is because juveniles look up too alot of adults and most adults teach their children things they arent suppose to teach them... and then we see these young kids do crimes and we then wonder why they do them.. i think we should recognize that we are dealing with kids that are being thought by adults are we are cutting their life for something a grown person has thought them.. i believe that juveniles beign sentenced for adult time is very wrong… my opinion is because juveniles look up too alot of adults and most adults teach their children things they arent suppose to teach them… and then we see these young kids do crimes and we then wonder why they do them.. i think we should recognize that we are dealing with kids that are being thought by adults are we are cutting their life for something a grown person has thought them..

]]> By: Nancy, Fayetteville, NC http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/19/adult-time-for-adult-crime-sentencing-under-siege/#comment-106121 Nancy, Fayetteville, NC Tue, 20 Apr 2010 04:32:15 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17449#comment-106121 I think that we should find out the background of these juviniles and then prosecute them. No one really know what those children have been through, until you find out. We should focus on rehab of those children instead of just judging them, God said who ever is free of sin, should throw the first rock, and guess what no one in this world is. I think that we should find out the background of these juviniles and then prosecute them. No one really know what those children have been through, until you find out. We should focus on rehab of those children instead of just judging them, God said who ever is free of sin, should throw the first rock, and guess what no one in this world is.

]]> By: Fighting to save juvenile life without parole « The Campaign for the Fair Sentencing of Youth http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/19/adult-time-for-adult-crime-sentencing-under-siege/#comment-64401 Fighting to save juvenile life without parole « The Campaign for the Fair Sentencing of Youth Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:21:19 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17449#comment-64401 [...] a defensive, pro-punishment paper released this summer and by the conservative think tank, authors Andrew Grossman and Charles [...] [...] a defensive, pro-punishment paper released this summer and by the conservative think tank, authors Andrew Grossman and Charles [...]

]]> By: Rebecca, Tustin CA http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/19/adult-time-for-adult-crime-sentencing-under-siege/#comment-63237 Rebecca, Tustin CA Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:40:28 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17449#comment-63237 We all know that what the media prints and certainly commentary from the ACLU, etc. must be verified. I am personally involved with many juveniles, some murderers, some not. What I do believe is that at the age of 18 or below, it is not prudent or fair to hand out an LWOP. Unfortunately, the crisis in our prison system often creates more violence in an individual, I beleive that with better treatment and rehab. programs at a young age, a juvenile has a better chance to re-enter society productively. Certainly their are cases of pure pyschopathy, these cases need to be taken case by case. I just beleive that even the most heinous crime at an age of 14, 15, 16, even 17, should not determine the rest of your life. We all know that what the media prints and certainly commentary from the ACLU, etc. must be verified. I am personally involved with many juveniles, some murderers, some not. What I do believe is that at the age of 18 or below, it is not prudent or fair to hand out an LWOP. Unfortunately, the crisis in our prison system often creates more violence in an individual, I beleive that with better treatment and rehab. programs at a young age, a juvenile has a better chance to re-enter society productively. Certainly their are cases of pure pyschopathy, these cases need to be taken case by case. I just beleive that even the most heinous crime at an age of 14, 15, 16, even 17, should not determine the rest of your life.

]]> By: Fighting to Save Juvenile Life Without Parole « Pursuances http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/19/adult-time-for-adult-crime-sentencing-under-siege/#comment-62876 Fighting to Save Juvenile Life Without Parole « Pursuances Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:23:23 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17449#comment-62876 [...] a defensive, pro-punishment paper released this summer and by the conservative think tank, authors Andrew Grossman and Charles [...] [...] a defensive, pro-punishment paper released this summer and by the conservative think tank, authors Andrew Grossman and Charles [...]

]]> By: Natalie http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/19/adult-time-for-adult-crime-sentencing-under-siege/#comment-62598 Natalie Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:12:25 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17449#comment-62598 It's interesting that the American Bar Assn. wrote an amicus brief in support of the petitioners in the Sullivan and Graham cases (the JLWOP cases pending before the U.S. Supreme Court), so obviously those opposed to JLWOP are not just the "activist" organizations as described here. Also, I believe that if you wanted to truly collect a random sampling on the JLWOP cases out there, the Public Defenders' Offices in the nation's larger cities should have also been contacted in addition to the DAs' Offices. Solely contacting the DAs led to a major bias in these case digests and the results of your research findings. Because of political motivations, the DAs are going to offer the information that helps you prove your point. It's interesting that the American Bar Assn. wrote an amicus brief in support of the petitioners in the Sullivan and Graham cases (the JLWOP cases pending before the U.S. Supreme Court), so obviously those opposed to JLWOP are not just the "activist" organizations as described here.

Also, I believe that if you wanted to truly collect a random sampling on the JLWOP cases out there, the Public Defenders' Offices in the nation's larger cities should have also been contacted in addition to the DAs' Offices. Solely contacting the DAs led to a major bias in these case digests and the results of your research findings. Because of political motivations, the DAs are going to offer the information that helps you prove your point.

]]> By: Frank Courser Escon http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/19/adult-time-for-adult-crime-sentencing-under-siege/#comment-62567 Frank Courser Escon Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:33:42 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17449#comment-62567 It is sad this article attempts to twist the issue in favor of its author’s agenda just as he implies those that support sentencing reform for juveniles in the United States have done. There is one fact that can not be twisted. Senator Jim Webb of Virginia said it well “With so many of our citizens in prison compared with the rest of the world, there are only two possibilities: Either we are home to the most evil people on earth or we are doing something different--and vastly counterproductive. Obviously, the answer is the latter.” America makes up 4.5% of the worlds population, yet incarcerates 25% of the world’s prisoners. This fact only became real in the last 30 years. Prior to Nixon’s war on drugs and states getting tough on crime America’s incarceration levels were lower than most countries. Something happened and the author is attempting justify it with the use of fear. It is sad this article attempts to twist the issue in favor of its author’s agenda just as he implies those that support sentencing reform for juveniles in the United States have done. There is one fact that can not be twisted. Senator Jim Webb of Virginia said it well “With so many of our citizens in prison compared with the rest of the world, there are only two possibilities: Either we are home to the most evil people on earth or we are doing something different–and vastly counterproductive. Obviously, the answer is the latter.” America makes up 4.5% of the worlds population, yet incarcerates 25% of the world’s prisoners. This fact only became real in the last 30 years. Prior to Nixon’s war on drugs and states getting tough on crime America’s incarceration levels were lower than most countries. Something happened and the author is attempting justify it with the use of fear.

]]> By: October 20th, 2009 | The Defenders Online http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/19/adult-time-for-adult-crime-sentencing-under-siege/#comment-62435 October 20th, 2009 | The Defenders Online Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:03:58 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17449#comment-62435 [...] Adult Time for Adult Crime: Sentencing Under Siege The debate over the measure was conducted largely by national special-interest groups. On one side were a variety of activist groups that have engaged on this issue in a number of states, including the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), Human Rights Watch (HRW), Amnesty International (AI), Equal Justice Initiative, and NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund. On the other side, opposing the legislation, were local groups representing prosecutors, police, and victims. These opponents ultimately proved successful, and the bill died at the conclusion of the legislative session. [...] [...] Adult Time for Adult Crime: Sentencing Under Siege The debate over the measure was conducted largely by national special-interest groups. On one side were a variety of activist groups that have engaged on this issue in a number of states, including the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), Human Rights Watch (HRW), Amnesty International (AI), Equal Justice Initiative, and NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund. On the other side, opposing the legislation, were local groups representing prosecutors, police, and victims. These opponents ultimately proved successful, and the bill died at the conclusion of the legislative session. [...]

]]> By: Freedom of Speech, T http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/19/adult-time-for-adult-crime-sentencing-under-siege/#comment-62520 Freedom of Speech, T Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:44:43 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17449#comment-62520 Nothing that goes on in California surprises me anymore. It always amazes me. If a juvenile (who can be almost 18) kidnapped, raped, sodomized, mutilated, and killed a member or loved one of an activist's family, I wonder how many activists would be so "caring". I would hope I could forgive the offender. I don't know if I could. What about the victim and their family and relatives? Maybe the choice should be up to THEM once an offender is found guilty? Nothing that goes on in California surprises me anymore.

It always amazes me. If a juvenile (who can be almost 18) kidnapped, raped, sodomized, mutilated, and killed a member or loved one of an activist's family, I wonder how many activists would be so "caring".

I would hope I could forgive the offender. I don't know if I could. What about the victim and their family and relatives? Maybe the choice should be up to THEM once an offender is found guilty?

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