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	<title>Comments on: Guest Blogger: Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) Obama&#8217;s Health Care Promises</title>
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		<title>By: blogsawimo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised that no one, to my knowledge, has pointed out that whether the legislation requires applicants for government subsidies to provide proof of citizenship or not is irrelevant.  
 
That&#039;s because after this Democratic Congress is finished, all the current illegals will be given citizenship!  And it will dump another 12 million people into the Medicaid or the pubic option as well as into the healthcare delivery system!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m surprised that no one, to my knowledge, has pointed out that whether the legislation requires applicants for government subsidies to provide proof of citizenship or not is irrelevant. </p>
<p>That&#039;s because after this Democratic Congress is finished, all the current illegals will be given citizenship!  And it will dump another 12 million people into the Medicaid or the pubic option as well as into the healthcare delivery system!!</p>
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		<title>By: philip</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/15/guest-blogger-rep-joe-barton-r-tx-obamas-health-care-promises/#comment-62115</link>
		<dc:creator>philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Face it america the Demicrat party has sold out the vary people they claim to represent with their backdoor partism politics. Harry Reid,speaker Nancy Polosi out right bold lieing slandering and false statements made by her about the american people who question her socialist stand on health care,  and the poeple choise ect.along with Harry Reid it&#039;s ashame that congress has be come the yes men and women when the Dem have to resort to tricky though Harry  Reid sneaking opposed legislation with back door means on the people of the united states of america  and disregard of the constitution of the unite states. IT&#039;s time to vote these people out of office DEM. or REP.who don&#039;t stand for freedom and We the people. it is not We the goverment  GOD BLESS AMERICA </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Face it america the Demicrat party has sold out the vary people they claim to represent with their backdoor partism politics. Harry Reid,speaker Nancy Polosi out right bold lieing slandering and false statements made by her about the american people who question her socialist stand on health care,  and the poeple choise ect.along with Harry Reid it&#039;s ashame that congress has be come the yes men and women when the Dem have to resort to tricky though Harry  Reid sneaking opposed legislation with back door means on the people of the united states of america  and disregard of the constitution of the unite states. IT&#039;s time to vote these people out of office DEM. or REP.who don&#039;t stand for freedom and We the people. it is not We the goverment  GOD BLESS AMERICA</p>
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		<title>By: Micki-Tamarac, FL</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/15/guest-blogger-rep-joe-barton-r-tx-obamas-health-care-promises/#comment-61920</link>
		<dc:creator>Micki-Tamarac, FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can&#039;t work on securing our borders and making illegals go home, we are to busy trying to get healthcare for them! 
This bunch of thieves in the senate and conress need to GO. 
2010 can&#039;t get here soon enough for me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can&#039;t work on securing our borders and making illegals go home, we are to busy trying to get healthcare for them!</p>
<p>This bunch of thieves in the senate and conress need to GO.</p>
<p>2010 can&#039;t get here soon enough for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Brittancus, Indianap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittancus, Indianap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E-Verify should be on the national agenda to countermand any illegal alien infiltration into the working environment. Whatever needs to done should take priority to remove the unauthorized labor in our jobless nation. More funding, more modifications until the illegal immigrant fraudulent use of documentation becomes a thing of the past. Using whatever technical programming that is available, to make it&#039;s operation inadvisable? Any database including state criminal, FBI, Social Security, Homeland Security, and any other means possible. Ultimately the final version would contribute photo verification, national ID system with biometric data which has been recommended by the Brooking&#039;s Institute and Duke University MIT. Supposedly small employers who don&#039;t operate computers should have common access in such locations as Post Offices or other approachable government building to identify the workers they are hiring. 
 
    There should be no excuse to not install a nationwide mandatory system of worker identification. My suggestion is that--ALL-I-9&#039;s should be copied and a duplicates sent to a Homeland Security Clearing House? Creating such an office would be a simple affair, if our state and federal government would be more beneficial to the working American male and female. If our government is sincere in securing our borders, and introducing new immigration enforcement tools, then E-Verify will become the final deterrent and not be weakened by Sen Harry Reid and his administration. I have made a point of speaking to a few business human resources departments, and found most are enthusiastic about the use of Verify. Only 1 of the 6 companies that I investigated determined some false negatives&quot; and &quot;false positives. But they always have a backup system of contacting the Social Security agency nearest to them, until the irregularities are resolved. Most  immigration enforcement laws that have survived, such as 287 (g), is under attack, including the ICE raids. They have already silently rescinded the No-Match-Letter and other indicators show that the parties have many pro-illegal immigrant legislators amongst them? 
 
    All that remains is citizens and legal residents to stop the Obama people from throwing a wrench in the cogs and stopping any technological advancement with E-Verify. E-Verify can be used on a universal level in checking bogus drivers license applications, auto insurance, home purchase, health care and other personal data. It would certainly alleviate the kidnapping of social service programs by the 20 to 30 illegal immigrants in America. It would displace foreign nationals so down-trodden legal single mums with children, homeless vets, senior citizens and even students could get employment. It all depends on all of us to contact our Representative in Washington at 202-224-3121. Tell them you don&#039;t want half measures by full permanent implementation? NO MORE DRAGGING THEIR FEET? Tell them your remember them on next election day. YOU ALSO WANT TO COMMAND THEM.  NO MORE AMNESTIES. 
 
    Don&#039;t let them distract you, but repeat your demands without hesitation to these open border jerks. Invest a little time and check what your politicians are doing to our immigration enforcement safeguard at NUMBERSUSA. Read about the consequences of future OVERPOPULATION at CAPSWEB and our collapsing infrastructure, that has been ignored for decades nationwide. Last read factual information at JUDICIAL WATCH that discloses the lawmakers, that are running the country for themselves, friends and business associates. ITS ALL FREE. Read that some of the White House Czars are not true Democrats, but are shadowed by their past Liberal Marxist backgrounds. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E-Verify should be on the national agenda to countermand any illegal alien infiltration into the working environment. Whatever needs to done should take priority to remove the unauthorized labor in our jobless nation. More funding, more modifications until the illegal immigrant fraudulent use of documentation becomes a thing of the past. Using whatever technical programming that is available, to make it&#039;s operation inadvisable? Any database including state criminal, FBI, Social Security, Homeland Security, and any other means possible. Ultimately the final version would contribute photo verification, national ID system with biometric data which has been recommended by the Brooking&#039;s Institute and Duke University MIT. Supposedly small employers who don&#039;t operate computers should have common access in such locations as Post Offices or other approachable government building to identify the workers they are hiring.</p>
<p>    There should be no excuse to not install a nationwide mandatory system of worker identification. My suggestion is that&#8211;ALL-I-9&#039;s should be copied and a duplicates sent to a Homeland Security Clearing House? Creating such an office would be a simple affair, if our state and federal government would be more beneficial to the working American male and female. If our government is sincere in securing our borders, and introducing new immigration enforcement tools, then E-Verify will become the final deterrent and not be weakened by Sen Harry Reid and his administration. I have made a point of speaking to a few business human resources departments, and found most are enthusiastic about the use of Verify. Only 1 of the 6 companies that I investigated determined some false negatives&quot; and &quot;false positives. But they always have a backup system of contacting the Social Security agency nearest to them, until the irregularities are resolved. Most  immigration enforcement laws that have survived, such as 287 (g), is under attack, including the ICE raids. They have already silently rescinded the No-Match-Letter and other indicators show that the parties have many pro-illegal immigrant legislators amongst them?</p>
<p>    All that remains is citizens and legal residents to stop the Obama people from throwing a wrench in the cogs and stopping any technological advancement with E-Verify. E-Verify can be used on a universal level in checking bogus drivers license applications, auto insurance, home purchase, health care and other personal data. It would certainly alleviate the kidnapping of social service programs by the 20 to 30 illegal immigrants in America. It would displace foreign nationals so down-trodden legal single mums with children, homeless vets, senior citizens and even students could get employment. It all depends on all of us to contact our Representative in Washington at 202-224-3121. Tell them you don&#039;t want half measures by full permanent implementation? NO MORE DRAGGING THEIR FEET? Tell them your remember them on next election day. YOU ALSO WANT TO COMMAND THEM.  NO MORE AMNESTIES.</p>
<p>    Don&#039;t let them distract you, but repeat your demands without hesitation to these open border jerks. Invest a little time and check what your politicians are doing to our immigration enforcement safeguard at NUMBERSUSA. Read about the consequences of future OVERPOPULATION at CAPSWEB and our collapsing infrastructure, that has been ignored for decades nationwide. Last read factual information at JUDICIAL WATCH that discloses the lawmakers, that are running the country for themselves, friends and business associates. ITS ALL FREE. Read that some of the White House Czars are not true Democrats, but are shadowed by their past Liberal Marxist backgrounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Niki Raapana, Alaska</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/15/guest-blogger-rep-joe-barton-r-tx-obamas-health-care-promises/#comment-61827</link>
		<dc:creator>Niki Raapana, Alaska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this piece and all your comments. I&#039;m doing an interview with George Butler via live webcam from College Station tonight, and he wants to talk about Obama&#039;s Health Care. Since Obama&#039;s administration has been openly identified as communitarian (not socialist or communist) I haven&#039;t paid much attention to anything he says, because communitarianism is based in the lie that there&#039;s a &quot;perfect middle ground&quot; between the right and the left. Communism married capitalism, we&#039;ve been in the synthesis between them for over a century, and now we&#039;re all even more confused about who we are.  
 
Here&#039;s a ton of overly referenced information about communitarianism from an old-fashioned American perspective: &lt;a href=&quot;http://nord.twu.net/acl&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://nord.twu.net/acl&lt;/a&gt;  
 
Here&#039;s a rudetube video I just made that introduces America to their father of communitarianism, Dr. Amitai Etzioni:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBlRS5vrk-c&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBlRS5vrk-c&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this piece and all your comments. I&#039;m doing an interview with George Butler via live webcam from College Station tonight, and he wants to talk about Obama&#039;s Health Care. Since Obama&#039;s administration has been openly identified as communitarian (not socialist or communist) I haven&#039;t paid much attention to anything he says, because communitarianism is based in the lie that there&#039;s a &quot;perfect middle ground&quot; between the right and the left. Communism married capitalism, we&#039;ve been in the synthesis between them for over a century, and now we&#039;re all even more confused about who we are. </p>
<p>Here&#039;s a ton of overly referenced information about communitarianism from an old-fashioned American perspective: <a href="http://nord.twu.net/acl" rel="nofollow">http://nord.twu.net/acl</a>  </p>
<p>Here&#039;s a rudetube video I just made that introduces America to their father of communitarianism, Dr. Amitai Etzioni:<br />
  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBlRS5vrk-c" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBlRS5vrk-c</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daver Ft. Worth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daver Ft. Worth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, 
 
Businesses are in business to make $. Most businesses are having a harder time than ever doing that, because the uncertainty in the economy is causing people to spend less. Therefore cost reduction is the next best way to maintain the necessary income to remain in business. If they can offload their health care costs at a lower cost, that is what many will choose to do. (The mere administration of any healthcare program is bad and distracting, before you even have to start paying.)  
 
So whether it is 8 million or 80 million or 120 million, it is way too many!  
 
The numbers will change as the true nature of what the government passed plan really is, costs employers, etc.. but significant minefields exist that the government is highly unlikely to be able to navigate through without raising taxes or rationing services to those it already &quot;controls&quot; (Medicare.)  
 
And perhaps most tragically as the population demographics in this country shift toward even a higher percent than the 50 million retired people already in this country represent, the obligation placed on the remaining workers will become completely unsustainable and the rationing will become an ever tightening circle. 
 
Clear? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>Businesses are in business to make $. Most businesses are having a harder time than ever doing that, because the uncertainty in the economy is causing people to spend less. Therefore cost reduction is the next best way to maintain the necessary income to remain in business. If they can offload their health care costs at a lower cost, that is what many will choose to do. (The mere administration of any healthcare program is bad and distracting, before you even have to start paying.) </p>
<p>So whether it is 8 million or 80 million or 120 million, it is way too many! </p>
<p>The numbers will change as the true nature of what the government passed plan really is, costs employers, etc.. but significant minefields exist that the government is highly unlikely to be able to navigate through without raising taxes or rationing services to those it already &quot;controls&quot; (Medicare.) </p>
<p>And perhaps most tragically as the population demographics in this country shift toward even a higher percent than the 50 million retired people already in this country represent, the obligation placed on the remaining workers will become completely unsustainable and the rationing will become an ever tightening circle.</p>
<p>Clear?</p>
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		<title>By: Black Saint Ok</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/15/guest-blogger-rep-joe-barton-r-tx-obamas-health-care-promises/#comment-61800</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Saint Ok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meantime,  with 15  million Americans without jobs, the invasion continues,  no Liberal Politician will address the 500 pound gorilla in the room, and millions of invading, plundering, welfare loving,  prolific breeding,  Illegal Aliens taking millions of jobs that should be American jobs and 100,s billions of dollars in social services that should be for American citizens! 
 
 One cannot be political correct and admit that Illegal Aliens are an large part of the problems in this Nation. 
 
 Their negative impact extends to every area from Sub-par loans &amp; defaults, Underground economy, Massive document fraud,  Lower standard of living, Crime, Overflowing prisons , Bankrupted hospitals, Failing schools, Property Taxes,  Insurance costs, Environment, Culture, Welfare costs, Welfare fraud, SS fraud, Voter fraud,  Disrespect for our laws &amp; country, our Constitution against invasion and even Balance of payments occurring from oil and other imports to support the 20 to 30 million illegal aliens in this country!  
 
One has to only look at Calif. which is basically mostly an Spanish speaking, Bankrupt state that cannot afford to provide Welfare, Schooling, Medical, Prison cells  etc. for millions of MS-13 Gang bangers, Drug dealers, Rapist and other assorted Criminals and uneducated, Prolific breeding, third world rejects from Mexico!  
 
 In a very few years it will be impossible to see where Mexico ends and Calif. begins as both will be an  third world cesspool! 
 
Failure to secure our borders and reward the Invading horde for their invasion and their relatives  in an never ending chain with American Citizenship is nothing less than committing National Suicide &amp;  will assure our future is an over populated Spanish speaking third world Nation that is an Cesspool of Corruption, Crime, Poverty and Misery modeled on Mexico! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meantime,  with 15  million Americans without jobs, the invasion continues,  no Liberal Politician will address the 500 pound gorilla in the room, and millions of invading, plundering, welfare loving,  prolific breeding,  Illegal Aliens taking millions of jobs that should be American jobs and 100,s billions of dollars in social services that should be for American citizens!</p>
<p> One cannot be political correct and admit that Illegal Aliens are an large part of the problems in this Nation.</p>
<p> Their negative impact extends to every area from Sub-par loans &amp; defaults, Underground economy, Massive document fraud,  Lower standard of living, Crime, Overflowing prisons , Bankrupted hospitals, Failing schools, Property Taxes,  Insurance costs, Environment, Culture, Welfare costs, Welfare fraud, SS fraud, Voter fraud,  Disrespect for our laws &amp; country, our Constitution against invasion and even Balance of payments occurring from oil and other imports to support the 20 to 30 million illegal aliens in this country! </p>
<p>One has to only look at Calif. which is basically mostly an Spanish speaking, Bankrupt state that cannot afford to provide Welfare, Schooling, Medical, Prison cells  etc. for millions of MS-13 Gang bangers, Drug dealers, Rapist and other assorted Criminals and uneducated, Prolific breeding, third world rejects from Mexico! </p>
<p> In a very few years it will be impossible to see where Mexico ends and Calif. begins as both will be an  third world cesspool!</p>
<p>Failure to secure our borders and reward the Invading horde for their invasion and their relatives  in an never ending chain with American Citizenship is nothing less than committing National Suicide &amp;  will assure our future is an over populated Spanish speaking third world Nation that is an Cesspool of Corruption, Crime, Poverty and Misery modeled on Mexico!</p>
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		<title>By: J.C. Hughes, Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.C. Hughes, Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian of Missouri. The data you request is often politically skewed. Verification of such is a fruitless effort given today&#039;s highly charged ideological power grab. Like our Constitution, science itself is being ignored, manipulated and/or trampled upon by the current congressional leadership and their pitch man, Obama. In addition, this whole damned debate goes far beyond having accurate figures as it doesn&#039;t belong in the federal arena to begin with. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian of Missouri. The data you request is often politically skewed. Verification of such is a fruitless effort given today&#039;s highly charged ideological power grab. Like our Constitution, science itself is being ignored, manipulated and/or trampled upon by the current congressional leadership and their pitch man, Obama. In addition, this whole damned debate goes far beyond having accurate figures as it doesn&#039;t belong in the federal arena to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy in CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy in CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As willing as you were to believe that there would be no new taxes, that you could keep your Dr. and your Health Care provider, that Obamacare would not fund abortions and no illegals could get free Health Care.  Did you believe that with no data? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As willing as you were to believe that there would be no new taxes, that you could keep your Dr. and your Health Care provider, that Obamacare would not fund abortions and no illegals could get free Health Care.  Did you believe that with no data?</p>
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