Comments on: Did You Want More Spending with VAT? http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/14/did-you-want-more-spending-with-vat/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:29:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Did You Want More Spending with VAT? | Conservative Principles Now http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/14/did-you-want-more-spending-with-vat/#comment-61695 Did You Want More Spending with VAT? | Conservative Principles Now Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:47:31 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17002#comment-61695 [...] « Daggett and RGA trade barbs Fishman takes office [...] [...] « Daggett and RGA trade barbs Fishman takes office [...]

]]> By: Freedom of Speech TX http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/14/did-you-want-more-spending-with-vat/#comment-61738 Freedom of Speech TX Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:04:16 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17002#comment-61738 Dear Tess, As far as Greg Mankiw seeing nothing wrong with a VAT Tax, I would have to take that statement in context with the rest of what he was trying to say. IF he meant scrapping an abusive, intimidating, unfair IRS - it might be workable. The problem is: A. It would be imposed on everyone "equally". The poor who pay no federal income tax will be the same VAT rate as everyon else. How is that helping them? B. Let's say the rate is 6%. What is to prevent the government from continuing to raise the rate until it is 35% or higher? Most importantly, do you want a national sales tax on everything you do ON TOP OF federal and state taxes and dozens of others? Finally, SPENDING is high because money is POWER and it translates to votes for reelection. I say if "people" want more than THEY pay for it. Why should an entire life of productivity, sacrifice, and saving be thrown back into the kitty for MANY who did nothing to better themselves. I see successful naturalized citizens who came from tougher circumstances than people born here. Help people truly in need - not a culture of slackers. Dear Tess,

As far as Greg Mankiw seeing nothing wrong with a VAT Tax, I would have to take that statement in context with the rest of what he was trying to say.

IF he meant scrapping an abusive, intimidating, unfair IRS – it might be workable.

The problem is: A. It would be imposed on everyone "equally". The poor who pay no federal income tax will be the same VAT rate as everyon else. How is that helping them? B. Let's say the rate is 6%. What is to prevent the government from continuing to raise the rate until it is 35% or higher?

Most importantly, do you want a national sales tax on everything you do ON TOP OF federal and state taxes and dozens of others?

Finally, SPENDING is high because money is POWER and it translates to votes for reelection.

I say if "people" want more than THEY pay for it. Why should an entire life of productivity, sacrifice, and saving be thrown back into the kitty for MANY who did nothing to better themselves. I see successful naturalized citizens who came from tougher circumstances than people born here.

Help people truly in need – not a culture of slackers.

]]> By: Bobbie Jay http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/14/did-you-want-more-spending-with-vat/#comment-61616 Bobbie Jay Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:15:54 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17002#comment-61616 NO GOVERNMENT SPENDING OUTSIDE OF THEIR DEFINE DUTIES IN ACCORDANCE OF THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION! STOP THE OPPRESSION NOW! THE LESS GOVERNMENT SPENDING, THE MORE INTELLIGENT THE GOVERNMENT...more importantly, the more freedom to the people. The more power to the people. The more personal control to the people. The government majority fails to have intelligence. NO GOVERNMENT SPENDING OUTSIDE OF THEIR DEFINE DUTIES IN ACCORDANCE OF THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION! STOP THE OPPRESSION NOW! THE LESS GOVERNMENT SPENDING, THE MORE INTELLIGENT THE GOVERNMENT…more importantly, the more freedom to the people. The more power to the people. The more personal control to the people. The government majority fails to have intelligence.

]]> By: Tess http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/14/did-you-want-more-spending-with-vat/#comment-61498 Tess Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:15:04 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17002#comment-61498 Greg Mankiw -- conservative economist who served under W. -- has no problem with the VAT, and neither should anybody else. The VAT would just displace other taxes that would be far more distorting. Spending is high because the people want more health care, social security and other public goods. It isn't just because government is a spoiled teenager. Greg Mankiw — conservative economist who served under W. — has no problem with the VAT, and neither should anybody else. The VAT would just displace other taxes that would be far more distorting.

Spending is high because the people want more health care, social security and other public goods. It isn't just because government is a spoiled teenager.

]]> By: Thanks, but no VAT, http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/14/did-you-want-more-spending-with-vat/#comment-61483 Thanks, but no VAT, Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:14:25 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17002#comment-61483 I think you meant "an even larger role", not "roll". Also, Nancy Pelosi endorsed the idea of a VAT: <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703298004574457512007010416.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703...</a> More recently, the Brookings Institution has just come out in favor of a VAT, primarily to pay for health care: <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/12/AR2009101202389.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti...</a> I think you meant "an even larger role", not "roll".

Also, Nancy Pelosi endorsed the idea of a VAT: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703…

More recently, the Brookings Institution has just come out in favor of a VAT, primarily to pay for health care: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti…

]]> By: Freedom of Speech, T http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/14/did-you-want-more-spending-with-vat/#comment-61466 Freedom of Speech, T Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:19:27 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=17002#comment-61466 The VAT will do nothing to stop spending. Well, we don't need a VAT to prove that. ANY tax will result in more spending. Does anyone really expect the pols to be honest and pay down the debt with taxpayers' money? They get more; they spend more. This behavior is no different than sending an acned-faced kid to college with a credit card. The kid is "exploring the world" on parents hard-earned cash. Our government is changing Americans' world with our hard-earned cash. The only difference is you can cut your kid off. The government can throw you in jail for trying to cut them off. Nothing but a bunch of parasites. The VAT will do nothing to stop spending.

Well, we don't need a VAT to prove that.

ANY tax will result in more spending. Does anyone really expect the pols to be honest and pay down the debt with taxpayers' money?

They get more; they spend more. This behavior is no different than sending an acned-faced kid to college with a credit card.

The kid is "exploring the world" on parents hard-earned cash.

Our government is changing Americans' world with our hard-earned cash.

The only difference is you can cut your kid off. The government can throw you in jail for trying to cut them off.

Nothing but a bunch of parasites.

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