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  • Congress’ Secret Plan to Pass Obamacare – Pushed to Plan B

    Leaders in the House and Senate have a secret plan to pass President Barack Obama’s sweeping health care plan without a conference and without any participation by the American people … but that plan that has been pushed to Plan B. The primary plan is to use a secretive conference committee procedure to pass Obamacare by the end of the year.

    Yesterday, the Senate Finance Committee passed the outline of a bill, The Vapor Bill, out of committee on a party line vote with the lone crossover Republican support of Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) on a 14-9 vote. AP is reporting that Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) wants to commence debate the last week of October on his version of health care reform.

    The plan being implemented right now to pass Obamacare is the following. The Senate will start debate on October 26th on a bill being written right now. The American people will not be allowed to view the writing of this bill and the negotiations between White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT) and Senator Max Baucus (D-MT). Human Events reported that the bill was being written before the Senate Finance Committee finished work on Obamacare and that President Obama’s head of the Office of Management and Budget has been present during the drafting of the legislation. .

    In these closed door meetings, the negotiators will not be constrained by the bill that passed the Senate HELP Committee and the Senate Finance Committee legislation. This process is not transparent and Senator Orrin Hatch complained that “the real bill is currently being written behind closed doors in the dark corners of the Capitol and the White House.” Bottom line is that the American people will not be allowed to read the bill, until the elite negotiators decide to allow the American people to view it.

    It is expected that the Senate will still move to a House passed tax bill and offer a complete substitute Amendment being the Obamacare bill being written right now somewhere in the Capitol. There is no way to know if Senator Reid will use his powers as leader to block amendments or to block the open amendment procedure to only allow leadership approved amendments to receive a vote. It is expected to be a long debate on the Senate floor and it may last well right up to the Senate recess for Thanksgiving.

    Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is aiming to bring the House version of Obamacare to the floor “later this month.” After the House and Senate pass a bill, if they both pass a bill, the leadership is talking about conferencing the two bills. A conference committee will be another opportunity for the White House, Senate Leadership and House Leadership to craft a bill reconciling the two versions. Also, this would give the leadership the opportunity to kick out Republicans, as they did on the stimulus plan, and craft a bill inserting controversial provisions that don’t make it into the House and Senate plans. It is possible to add a controversial Public Option for health insurance in a conference, therefore bypassing some very painful votes on the Senate and House floor.

    There are serious problems with this plan. First, after the experience that Republicans had with the Obama Stimulus plan, why would Senators allow this bill to go to conference? In the Senate, it takes 3 debatable (therefore filibusterable) motions to get the Senate to appoint conferees. Usually these motions are waived by unanimous consent, but one Senator could block conferees by objecting to an agreement. Both Republicans and Democrats have objected to conferees in the past on controversial measures to prevent a conference.

    If they can’t get this risky plan implemented on schedule, they are still in a position to use Congress’ Secret Plan to pass Obamacare without a conference. The Senate Leadership has put this bill in a position that the House could take up the bill intact, pass and send to the President. CNS News reported that there is evidence in the House and Senate that Plan B is still available if the current publicly disclosed strategy breaks down.

    Spokesman for Senator Harry Reid told Chris Frates of Politico that there is no single bullet scenario. “Don’t waste your time thinking about that idea anymore. What we will end up doing will be much more painful and prolonged,” said Ried spokesman Jim Manley. The big question for America is what they do if conservatives block the appointment of conferees or if the bill implodes on the Senate or House floor.

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    11 Responses to Congress’ Secret Plan to Pass Obamacare – Pushed to Plan B

    1. Freedom of Speech, T says:

      Geez,

      I need some aspirin.

      Better get it quick. There will surely be a run on any type of painkillers before this mess is finished.

      I'm applying for anti-depression drugs the minute the bill is passed – if health care will cover it.

    2. David Beaird, Keokuk says:

      It is imperative that the healthcare bill, in any form, be defeated. This is a very bad bill for the American people. It greatly increases government control over a vital aspect of all Americans from cradle to grave. Other socialistic plans such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, which are all failing, only affect a certain segment of the population at any one time. The healthcare plan would affect all. Do not be taken in by this ploy to further socialize our capitalistic form of government. Our country and the future of our children and grandchildren cannot afford another pyramid scheme, by the government, to fill its coffers through further taxation. Every voting American should let their Senators and Congressmen know, under no uncertain terms, that if they vote YES for the healthcare bill, it is a vote to not be re-elected. This applies to Democrats as well as Republicans and Independents.

    3. Sue Jasper, Missouri says:

      What are we able to do to stop the trainwreck that is coming? I have contacted my rep and senators but we both know that isnt going to help much.

      I am so frustrated and fed up with the whole healthcare thing. The govt makes me sick and the healthcare they are proposing won't pay to fix it.

    4. Katrina, Beverly Hil says:

      Thank you very much for explaining the legislative logistics of what is happening in Congress. I think if more people (liberals included) understood what was actually happening, they wouldn't support this effort.

    5. David Beaird, Keokuk says:

      To Sue Jasper, Missouri: At this point, the only thing we can do is vote all of them out at the next election. Check your senators and Congressmen voting records and see if they voted the way you would have liked them to. If they didn't, vote them out. Spread the word to all you know and tell them to do likewise. I email my Senators and Congressmen almost every day and tell them if they vote YES for healthcare or cap and Trade they are voting themselves out of office at the next election. We all need to be doing this on a regular basis.

    6. Mike ,Grant Park,IL says:

      We have to stop the corruption in Washington,DC They work for us not the other way around.

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    9. Bobbie Jay says:

      Can't there be class action lawsuits to penalize government members purging government? Including the leader?

      I'm sure the founders never suspected there would be anybody as ungrateful as these members in leadership position of this country to go so low to destroy every bit of strength of this country and her people. To take away all principles and human value.

    10. Freedom of Speech, T says:

      Thanks Senator Snowe.

      FOX reported that Obama recently called her approximately 8 times in the past couple of weeks. I do not know if that is true or not. And, it is not surprising to have the oppossing side lobby for political capital.

      What I do know is that she has reportedly said she "wants a trigger". Might as well just say government controlled health care. The only question with a "trigger" is how long will it take THIS congress to pull it…

      She said she had conditions and only agreed to vote to move it out of committee to "forward" the process. That is so much bunk. The committee did not need her vote. So it was 14-9 instead of 13-10 – party line on the demo side.

      The truth is that many of the demos know this will be re-written, merged, and not even resemble what they voted on. Senator Snowe must know that as well. So, why did she do this? Why did she join the OTHER Maine Senator and Arlen on the 1st stimulus?

      All Senators have a healthy ego – it's to be expected. But, how could she vote this out and not show solidarity with her party?

      All she did is immediately give Obama and the left the opportunity to quickly say "We are glad we had "bi-partisian" support. What? One Republican?

      Yes, thanks for giving this "mess" any sense of "bi-partisian" credability to the left.

    11. Harry Snyder Mich. says:

      It's a terrible thing to say, but the actions and policies of the current administration have a frightening similarity to those of the despotic regimes of the 1020's and 1930's: Promises to follow the law, to preserve the rights of the people. Then to take advantage of a crisis to become a dictatorship. Takeover of the financial sector, labor unions, industry. Establishing a private army, indoctrinating the children. Placing loyal cronies in important and powerful positions. These were policies of Adolf Hitler in the mid-1930's. Oh yes—-he also made certain groups enemies of the state: the Jews, some labor unions, even Christians.

      But the country's economy did pretty well…..

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