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Congress’ Secret Plan to Pass Obamacare by Thanksgiving – Update

Last night, Chris Frates of the Politico posted on Live Pulse a post “Unconventional Wisdom” where a “former House and Senate leadership aid” communicate to Frates that it is possible that Reid’s plan could be to “insert the merged health care reform language into a revenue raising House bill already languishing in conference committee.

The Senate would pass it and send it to the House whereupon passage, it would go straight to the president’s desk – completely bypassing conference. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.” This would allow them to pass Obamacare by Thanksgiving.

The are a few House tax bills on the Senate calendar so all Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) would have to do is to gut a House passed tax bill, insert the Senate version of Obamacare and send the tax shell bill containing the health care language back to the House.

For this plan to work, the House would have to take up and pass the Senate bill intact, with no Amendments. Reid’s language, therefore, would heave to be pre-conferenced  to address all of Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA) concerns.

Think this is a crazy scenario? Frates reports that the Thanksgiving deadline has been part of leadership talking points all week long. More Frates: “but deadline or signpost, Democrats sound serious about trying to get it done by then. Vice President Biden, chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, budget director Peter Orszag and, just this week, Speaker Pelosi have all said so.”

What will this bill look like? Will it have the public option? Will it have the necessary safeguards to make sure illegal immigrants don’t get free or subsidized health care? Will it force taxpayers to pay for abortions? How much will it cost? Nobody knows because this Vapor Bill does not even exist yet.

This should lead all Americans who want to participate in this process to ask – Where’s the Healthcare Bill?

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October 10, 2009 Freedom of Speech TX writes:

Everybody write their Senators and Congressmen!

Tell them do not pull this ___ again!

Too many of our reps have no conscienous. Hold them accountable at the polls.

October 10, 2009 Vested writes:

These folks think they know what is best for us, and my guess is that they’ll show us - right along the lines of this article. We’re getting exactly what “we” voted for. Anybody who thought differently was and is a fool. Our Nobel Prize winning leader is perfectly willing to steam roll this thing right on through, and then move on to the next priority - cap and trade - while acting like an innocent by-stander and a compromiser all along. Hold on to your hats! Hide your money! Hunker down! We’re not winning.

October 11, 2009 Sunday, October 11, 2009 — ExposeTheMedia.com writes:

[...] Congress’ Secret Plan To Pass Obamacare By Thanksgiving – Update [...]

October 11, 2009 curtis, texas writes:

Now that we know their plan,what does the heritage foundation suggest we do? We need an organized plan to stop this dictatorship now. Any suggestions?

October 11, 2009 Lisa, Clearwater Florida writes:

They don’t listen even if 90% of the calls that come into them is against it. It’s all about the money in their pockets. I HATE THEM!!!

October 11, 2009 Patricia Brittell AZ writes:

The Health Care Bill must be stopped and the people who are watching and
listening to the terrible underlining
of this bill know it is wrong for this
great country of America.
I urge my congressman and senators to
vote this bill down.
Thank you,
Patricia Brittell

October 12, 2009 RJM, Chicago writes:

Obama is right to say that health care reform is a moral issue, make no mistake about it. He’s just fundamentally wrong about the idea that the government taking over 1/6 of the economy is the moral answer we’re looking for.

The fundamental reason we argue over the socio-political issues of our time is because we all have ideas about the way things should be. Everyone believes in something. Everyone has a value-system that impacts how they look at the world. We can disagree without being disagreeable.

You absolutely MUST take a peek at this blog I found that a young conservative in Chicago is writing to help better clarify and define what conservatism is all about:

http://rjmoeller.com/2009/10/mere-conservatism-the-beginning/

October 12, 2009 Indianapolis, Indiana writes:

I wish someone would stop President Obama and his nonsense. He is going to damage our American people and this country, to the point, that we will not ever see America as it is again. The moral, the honesty, everything good is going down the drain. I cannot believe that both the Republican and Democrates are willing to shoot this country down with words that come out of their mouths. It makes me sick.

October 12, 2009 Sam, Va. writes:

We will be lucky to have “CHANGE” left in our pockets!!!

October 12, 2009 grandma, NC writes:

we MUST “ALL” make SURE the people responsible for this are NEVER put back in office again in any place of making decisions which the American people have spoken LOUD and CLEAR about and yet these people are saying “we make the decisions NOT you!” Least they forget WHO put them there, can ALSO take them out of POWER!!!!

October 12, 2009 Lloyd Scallan - New Orleans writes:

Everyone had better understand, we are in a American vs socialist WAR for our American way of life. These Democrats will not stop until they “transform” this country. We all must remember when the 2010 election roll around. Unfortunately many will forget how the Dems tied to forced this down our throats, whether or not they succeed. The point is they made the attempt to destroy America.

October 12, 2009 Annetta Hand writes:

My Medicare, Security Blue is going from $984/yr to $1428/yr. I contacted High Mark and was informed it was due to Government cuts; therefore my premium had to be increased.There’s also many changes in out of pocket…… So much for cutting Medicare Fraud. Washington will cut benefits and we’ll pay more.

October 12, 2009 American Miles, USA writes:

What would Dr. Seuss Say?

We don’t want Obamacare
We don’t want it anywhere

We don’t want it in our house
We don’t want it for our spouse

We won’t take this lying down
We’ll protest all over town

Don’t think we’ll all smile and wave
While you send us to our grave

We don’t believe in all the lies
While you send out all your spies

We don’t want to pay and pay
And you just simply walk away

Why don’t you just let us be
A nation that is PROUD AND FREE

Let Freedom Ring Now

VOTE FOR FREEDOM 2010

October 12, 2009 Freedom of Speech. TX writes:

Lisa Clearwater FL,

So no action is the answer? You are falling into their trap! They hear you. They are arrogant and trying to wear down all dissent.

PLEASE read Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals.

And, keep calling and writing! Do not give up.

October 12, 2009 philip writes:

Dirty poltics,just anther Polsie,Reid,and Obama’s don’t give a dam about america, or it’poeple. where is the respect for free choice for we the people, and freedom by the majority of demicrats and their party lets vote them out and restore freedom and also vote socialisst out of office

October 12, 2009 Da Dog writes:

Oppressive Regulation
Confiscatory Taxation
Unfortunately we may have already passed the point of no return. Government has grown to a size that is uncontrollable - no matter what happens at the polls. The screwing of America is indeed a bi-partisan effort. Do not delude yourselves into thinking things will change with another group of “leaders”. Short of a complete restructuring with term limits, taking profit out of politics and demanding accountability we are doomed to collapse and anarchy. With “health care reform”, cap and trade and the vast array of other proposed legislation, we cannot surive.

October 12, 2009 Joe TN writes:

White House + Congress = Total Corruption

The shame of it is that a sizeable percentage of the electorate agree with them.

October 12, 2009 Robyn, Arkansas writes:

Lisa in Florida, don’t hate them. Pray for them. If you pray, ask that they be given wisdom and discernment to make decisions that glorify God and not themselves and their pockets. They will ultimately have to answer to God for this.

Keep writing (e-mail and snail) and calling them. Let them know you are aware that there’s talk of passing the bill this way–include links to web pages like this one or others that reinforce your points. Also let them know that if they pass the bill in this way, you will exercise your vote to oust them at their next term election.

October 12, 2009 Jeff, Rehoboth writes:

The left wing’s accomplice in the destruction of America is the liberal media.

Has anyone noticed the recent step up in stories related to extension of unemployment benefits…calling for immediate action from the Senate?

Am I expected to believe that it is a coincedence that this is the same bill that Harry Reid wants to attach his phantom health bill to?

October 12, 2009 Pat, Vancouver WA writes:

These sorry people intend to ram this mess down our throats - for our own good - of course. They have the mistaken idea that this healthcare mess will ensure the liberals stay in power and will enshrine them in American history forever. It will - as the sorriest, most out of control, and Socialist Congress in US history!

October 12, 2009 Janet, West Chester, PA writes:

I’m from PA, have a democrat Congressman, Sestak, Spector and Casey Senators; contacting them via email and US Mail has been in vain, so what is one to do? It is deplorable that a Bill of such magnitude could be written, approved and signed into law in such a dishonest and, one would think, illegal manner. Would it actually be con-stitutional?

October 12, 2009 LB, Lowell MI writes:

I have e-mailed and faxed till I’m blue in the face. These pompous idiots in Congress do not give a rat’s rear end what we think, as evidenced by their behavior at townhall meetings across the country and by comments they have made about Tea Partiers, and the fact that they are bound and determined to pass healthcare ‘reform’ by hook or crook. It’s totally disgusting.

October 12, 2009 Leon, Durango, CO writes:

Curtis,
I think we have to go into Court and ask this question: “If the government has short circuited Representation with Vapor Bills and unreadable bills, is the United States Government a Constitutionally recognizable ‘Republican’ form of government?” If the ‘representatives’ cannot represent us then the whole government is illegitimate.

October 12, 2009 samuel writes:

AMERICAN TAX PAYERS HAVE A LITTLE SENSE. NOT MUCH. THE MIDDLE CLASS TAX PAYERS AGAIN WILL FOOT THE BILL FOR ALL THIS MEDICAL SCAM BILL.

IF OUR GOVERNMENT IS SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE MIDDLE CLASS TAX PAYERS. GO AFTER THE INSURANCE COMPANIES . GO AFTER THE DOCTORS THAT RIP OFF THEIR PATIENTS. GO AFTER THE NURSING HOMES THAT ARE MAKING A KILLING . TAKE ALL THESE DOWN LIKE YOU DID THE BANKS.

IF YOU ARE IN THE NURSING HOME, YOU DO NOT GET TO SEE A DOCTOR. THE NURSING HOMES ARE FULL OF PEOPLE ON MEDICAID.

THE MIDDLE CLASS IS PAYING IT ALL.

October 12, 2009 Karen, Baton Rouge writes:

I am now more afraid than ever that our country is being taken away from us–dismantled before our very eyes! What can we do to stop this travesty?

October 12, 2009 Mike - Athens, TX writes:

I’ve come to the conclusion that 90% of our Senators are a sorry lot. Even in Texas.

I’d like to know if the Heritage Foundation has any special ability to effectively communicate with our two Texas Senators than “…we the people” of this great state do. I’ve got a great Representative in Jeb Henserling but its impossible communicating with either Hutchison or Cornyn. All their constituants receive are vague form letters.

October 12, 2009 Rachel, Arizona writes:

None of this is about reforming health care for the American people at all. This is solely about power. Obama and Co. could not care less about our health. What they care about is controlling us. That is why, if you notice, they have dipped their dirty little fingers into every major industry in this country and will continue to do so if not stopped. Obama’s aim is to be a dictator, not a representative and servant of this country as any president should be.

October 12, 2009 VA in South Carolina writes:

ITS A SHAMETHAT CONGRESS DOES NOT RELIAZE THAT IS WORKS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO RELIAZE THAT CONGRESS IS SURPOSE TO WORK FOR THEM ALSO. “TO OUR EMPLOYEES” IN CONGRESS.

October 12, 2009 Benjamin Marcoux writes:

The process by which Harry Reid has chosen to get this”MONSTER BILL passed is SEDUCTIVE in that he,Reid, intends to SCREW the middle class and low-income working class people.It will cost an additional $4,000/year per family+the $2,500 = $6,500.00 TOTAL FOR EVERY LOW INCOME FAMILY.
Reid em’ and weep” AMERICA– YOU ARE BEING
OBAMANIZED– by TWO MORTICIANS WHO REALLY KNOW HOW TO EMBALM YOU. WAIT TILL Ms.NANCY”P” ARRIVES AND ADDS HER 2 CENTS MANANA!!!
FORGET THE NATIONS POLLS @’ 57% TELLING CONGRESS—[GOV'T OF THE PEOPLE---] THAT WE DO NOT WANT THE GOV’T IN OUR HEALTH CARE–DO NOT–DO NOT–DO NOT–DO NOT. I THOUGHT [ THESE PEOPLE???] WERE OUR ELECTED REPS’ AND WE WERE IN CONTROL OF THE GOV’T. IF WE FAIL TO STOP REID PASSING THIS”STEALTH” BILL BY STUFFING IT INSIDE ANOTHER approved??? BILL, BYPASSING THE SENATE, AND GETTING OBAMA’S SIGNATURE—WE WON’T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANOTHER “9/11— AMERICA WILL HAVE SELF DESTRUCTED— HER SHAMBLED ECONOMY WILL BE READY FOR A MARXIST GOV’T TAKE OVER. LOOK OUT, EUROPE, HEAR WE COME!!!
the ole’ man 10 10 09

October 12, 2009 GIN, ORLANDO, FL writes:

“DITTO,” LISA IN CLEARWATER. THEY DON’T CARE; IT’S TIME TO BOOT THEM ALL OUT.

October 12, 2009 Ham Lake MN writes:

Why whimper, the time for talk is over. A bloodless coup has taken place. The mission of all freedom loving Americans is clear.

It was the common Farmers and Business people of their day that stood at Lexington and Concord. Will you?

Ask yourself: IF YOUR FREEDOM IS NOT WORTH FIGHTING FOR, WHAT IS?

Zeke S Patton

October 12, 2009 B & T, Flyover Country writes:

I’ve called or written my legislative reps to argue against their version of health care reform at least two - three times a week since January. They pretend to listen, but they aren’t. At first everyone was polite. Now, I am getting testy and so are they. Last week a man in the senator’s office snorted at me. Then refused to give me his name.

They don’t care what we want. We are so expendable. specially those of us who are over 50. They just want us to die and get out of the road.

The younger people will have time to recover from Obamacare when conservatives take over again, but I won’t, not at 60+. Neither will my husband, 70+.

I guess it is game over for us.

B & T in Flyover COuntry

October 12, 2009 Bobbie Jay writes:

As much of what the government does is behind the backs of the people they claim to serve, due to their clear action of disablement of transparency, is a definite indication there will be much more corruption added.

The government is ignorant to the people of this country. Every government idea is solely to benefit them and their bias select.

October 12, 2009 Mary E, PB,Fl writes:

Our country is being taken away from us by radicals in govt. We must stop this power grab to take over health care.The local Rep clubs are doing business as usual. People are apathetic, uninformed or feel helpless. What can we do?

October 13, 2009 Dr. Leon Bleiberg writes:

Comment:

Scratch a liberal (most democrats) and you will find a socialist (communist in training) — they don’t ask questions they dictate (as in dictatorship) — I have submitted my healthcare suggestions (very positive and practical) — no response — there mind is made up. Now that they have both houses and the White House they think that the have the mandate to do anything. They don’t care about the people!! Getting elected and line their pockets. That is the name of the game.

October 13, 2009 Kathy G. writes:

I can’t understand why more attention isn’t given to the fact that Congress is exempt from the health care changes and regulations. WHY? If this change is so good for the country, let Congress be part of it too.

October 13, 2009 Linda Carlsbad, CA writes:

I say, if we can, recall everyone of them who have anything to do with this, so called health reform. I say so called, because they just want to tax us more. They don’t care about our health!

October 13, 2009 Freedom of Speech, TX writes:

THEY DO CARE about providing health care.

They cannot take any money when you’re dead!

October 14, 2009 Slick in Nebraska writes:

I don’t know about you folks but I am about ready to QUIT paying my taxes.

Perhaps if we stop the flow of money, the government will grind to a halt!!!

October 14, 2009 philip writes:

dem’s sell out of freedom and the consitution. we may need to follow the way of our four fathers, and take a stand agianst the opression of the constitution we should be able to find some leagle actions, and means to protect our fredom LETS STAND TOGETER FOR AMERICA

November 6, 2009 Anne, florida writes:

this bill of horrors will probably pass, and the dems will lose their seats, and we will turn this around. I do have faith in those-not in this majority of congress- but the ones who will takeover the next election -and this bill will be overturned- it’s unconstitutional. So they lose their vote, at the cost of their agenda- and then they lose all!! That inspires me even more! we must vote them OUT

November 6, 2009 Cayce, South Carolina writes:

If this happens I say we break the law and do what we want. Obama can’t tell us what to do and neither can The Government.

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