Comments on: Pony Up, Working Families http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/09/baucus-bills-out-of-pocket-costs/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:29:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: What Does Health Care Reform Mean « Ilovebenefits’s Blog http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/09/baucus-bills-out-of-pocket-costs/#comment-61274 What Does Health Care Reform Mean « Ilovebenefits’s Blog Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:42:24 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=16741#comment-61274 [...] http://www.foundry.org/2009/10/09/baucus-bills-out-of-pocket-costs/ [...] [...] http://www.foundry.org/2009/10/09/baucus-bills-out-of-pocket-costs/ [...]

]]> By: Jules, Missouri http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/09/baucus-bills-out-of-pocket-costs/#comment-60797 Jules, Missouri Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:54:57 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=16741#comment-60797 I am reading "Atlas Shrugged", again. I recommend it to everyone if they want to see what could happen to this country with this administration. The "health care reform" issue is just the tip of the political/citizen control iceberg. That policy, along with "cap and trade" and all the rest of the Obama/socialist policies, will pretty much do what Ayn Rand has drawn out in this book. Want a picture of what our country will look like once all the socialist policies are made law? Pick up this book, read it, discount the "love story" angle, and you pretty much have the future of our country drawn out for you. All of the policies which this administration is proposing are nothing more than an attempt to control the lives, completely, of every citizen in the United States of America. If just one of these policies is voted into law, it paves the way for the rest. All of the policies proposed by this administration discourage ambition, hard work, personal responsibility, thoughtful and informed planning for the future, etc. Everything which made this country the greatest nation on the planet is being challenged by this administration. Those who want to work hard and get ahead in life will be punished and those who want to live on the backs of others will be rewarded. Pure and simple. With all the "czars" in this administration making executive policies at every turn, there will be a web of laws which no one will be able to keep up with nor observe. Thus, the citizens of this nation will be setup to be labeled, and prosecuted, as criminals without their knowledge for pursuing the American dream. Read the book. Take heed. It is the future of our nation as described in "Atlas Shrugged" which could be our future if the citizens of this country do not take action to stop this administration. I am reading "Atlas Shrugged", again. I recommend it to everyone if they want to see what could happen to this country with this administration. The "health care reform" issue is just the tip of the political/citizen control iceberg. That policy, along with "cap and trade" and all the rest of the Obama/socialist policies, will pretty much do what Ayn Rand has drawn out in this book. Want a picture of what our country will look like once all the socialist policies are made law? Pick up this book, read it, discount the "love story" angle, and you pretty much have the future of our country drawn out for you.

All of the policies which this administration is proposing are nothing more than an attempt to control the lives, completely, of every citizen in the United States of America.

If just one of these policies is voted into law, it paves the way for the rest. All of the policies proposed by this administration discourage ambition, hard work, personal responsibility, thoughtful and informed planning for the future, etc. Everything which made this country the greatest nation on the planet is being challenged by this administration. Those who want to work hard and get ahead in life will be punished and those who want to live on the backs of others will be rewarded. Pure and simple. With all the "czars" in this administration making executive policies at every turn, there will be a web of laws which no one will be able to keep up with nor observe. Thus, the citizens of this nation will be setup to be labeled, and prosecuted, as criminals without their knowledge for pursuing the American dream.

Read the book. Take heed. It is the future of our nation as described in "Atlas Shrugged" which could be our future if the citizens of this country do not take action to stop this administration.

]]> By: Joe from Texas http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/09/baucus-bills-out-of-pocket-costs/#comment-60781 Joe from Texas Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:08:04 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=16741#comment-60781 The Democrat leadership is trying to lead our country down the path to a ``Second World``situation. Remember, at one time, England ruled most of the world. The same with Spain,France, and Germany. Look at what they have become. If you can`t lead, then you are condemned to follow. Is that what we want for our coutry? We Americans have fought for our freedom too often to just let them get away with that. The Democrat leadership is trying to lead our country down the path to a “Second World“situation.

Remember, at one time, England ruled most of the world. The same with Spain,France, and Germany. Look at what they have become.

If you can`t lead, then you are condemned to follow. Is that what we want for our coutry?

We Americans have fought for our freedom too often to just let them get away with that.

]]> By: Rick from Rutherford http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/09/baucus-bills-out-of-pocket-costs/#comment-60769 Rick from Rutherford Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:08:32 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=16741#comment-60769 Where are all of these numbers coming from? Both sides are tossing out figures in favor of their argument yet I have yet to see any thing in writting. No doubt those of us who work and succeed in life will end up paying for those who desire nothing more than enough money for booze and smokes. I think the pressure should be on Democrats and Obama to produce a completed bill before anything is voted on. Anything less should be criminal, in my opinion. Where are all of these numbers coming from? Both sides are tossing out figures in favor of their argument yet I have yet to see any thing in writting. No doubt those of us who work and succeed in life will end up paying for those who desire nothing more than enough money for booze and smokes. I think the pressure should be on Democrats and Obama to produce a completed bill before anything is voted on. Anything less should be criminal, in my opinion.

]]> By: Bobbie Jay http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/09/baucus-bills-out-of-pocket-costs/#comment-60768 Bobbie Jay Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:07:38 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=16741#comment-60768 these people have no conscience. it won't stop until it's stopped...peacefully... these people have no conscience. it won't stop until it's stopped…peacefully…

]]> By: Lew from Phoenix http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/09/baucus-bills-out-of-pocket-costs/#comment-60749 Lew from Phoenix Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:42:45 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=16741#comment-60749 You'd think the new health care rules would lead to more efficiency without the negative burden of large tax increases that drag down the economy would be an easy decision wouldn't you? Not for a certain group of politicians because making health care more efficient is not their goal. The real prupose of government run health care is to gain control. You'd think the new health care rules would lead to more efficiency without the negative burden of large tax increases that drag down the economy would be an easy decision wouldn't you? Not for a certain group of politicians because making health care more efficient is not their goal. The real prupose of government run health care is to gain control.

]]> By: So Much for Free Healthcare … – Civitas Review Online http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/09/baucus-bills-out-of-pocket-costs/#comment-60640 So Much for Free Healthcare … – Civitas Review Online Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:53:03 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=16741#comment-60640 [...] According to the Baucus plan by 2013 those not covered by a government health plan will be required purchase insurance.  Anyone with an income 4 times below the federal poverty line will have to pay substantial out of pocket costs for health insurance, even after government subsidies.  Read the Heritage Foundation’s study here. [...] [...] According to the Baucus plan by 2013 those not covered by a government health plan will be required purchase insurance.  Anyone with an income 4 times below the federal poverty line will have to pay substantial out of pocket costs for health insurance, even after government subsidies.  Read the Heritage Foundation’s study here. [...]

]]> By: Jerry from Chicago http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/09/baucus-bills-out-of-pocket-costs/#comment-60708 Jerry from Chicago Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:26:53 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=16741#comment-60708 Anyone who believes that Health Care Reform legislation, regardless of its final form, will not substantially increase the financial burden on those of us who already have insurance is deluding themselves. Anyone who believes that such legislation will reduce the national debt is a fool. Anyone who believes anything said by Barack Obama is criminally stupid and ought to be locked up for their own safety and for the safety of the rest of us. Anyone who believes that Health Care Reform legislation, regardless of its final form, will not substantially increase the financial burden on those of us who already have insurance is deluding themselves.

Anyone who believes that such legislation will reduce the national debt is a fool.

Anyone who believes anything said by Barack Obama is criminally stupid and ought to be locked up for their own safety and for the safety of the rest of us.

]]> By: John Roane Sarasota http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/09/baucus-bills-out-of-pocket-costs/#comment-60702 John Roane Sarasota Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:06:04 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=16741#comment-60702 This is the change you all voted for now live with it. Your only other option at this point is not to re-elect anyone to the US Congress. You have no friends in Congress just a bunch of guys looking out for thier own interest. Now do you believe me? On second thought this isn't the worst, yes there is more bad news. To enforce the healthcare plan they will take more of you Constitutional Rights. Once you are in the public plan your medical records will be open to the government, if you have PTSD or similar aliment say good bye to the second amendment and so on. We live in the best country in the world and we can change it. Who said that? This is the change you all voted for now live with it. Your only other option at this point is not to re-elect anyone to the US Congress. You have no friends in Congress just a bunch of guys looking out for thier own interest. Now do you believe me?

On second thought this isn't the worst, yes there is more bad news. To enforce the healthcare plan they will take more of you Constitutional Rights. Once you are in the public plan your medical records will be open to the government, if you have PTSD or similar aliment say good bye to the second amendment and so on.

We live in the best country in the world and we can change it. Who said that?

]]> By: Bill, Forney, TX http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/09/baucus-bills-out-of-pocket-costs/#comment-60687 Bill, Forney, TX Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:37:47 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=16741#comment-60687 The consumer should have a choice on whether to purchase health insurance. The idiots who point to mandated car insurance to justify mandated health insurance forget that car insurance is insurance to protect the OTHER guy in case you run into HIM. You can carry zero liability on your own vehicle. The other aspect of car insurance is "uninsured motorist" insurance to protect you from the actions of another who skirts the law. If a person chooses to live a healthier lifestyle and take a chance that he won't require expensive medical care and pocket his hard-earned cash for other purposes, then he should be able to do it. This goes straight to individual responsiblity and living with the consequences of such. So your employer of choice doesn't offer affordable insurance? Maybe you should have chosen to pay more attention in school when receiving your free education so you could get a better job (with better benefits). Too often we cast the downtrodden as victims when they, in fact, made decisions that landed them in their situation (see "Buy house on coastline susceptible to hurricanes"). Life is full of risks & rewards but no guarantees. The taxpayer should not be forced to pay for poor choices. The consumer should have a choice on whether to purchase health insurance. The idiots who point to mandated car insurance to justify mandated health insurance forget that car insurance is insurance to protect the OTHER guy in case you run into HIM. You can carry zero liability on your own vehicle. The other aspect of car insurance is "uninsured motorist" insurance to protect you from the actions of another who skirts the law. If a person chooses to live a healthier lifestyle and take a chance that he won't require expensive medical care and pocket his hard-earned cash for other purposes, then he should be able to do it. This goes straight to individual responsiblity and living with the consequences of such. So your employer of choice doesn't offer affordable insurance? Maybe you should have chosen to pay more attention in school when receiving your free education so you could get a better job (with better benefits). Too often we cast the downtrodden as victims when they, in fact, made decisions that landed them in their situation (see "Buy house on coastline susceptible to hurricanes"). Life is full of risks & rewards but no guarantees. The taxpayer should not be forced to pay for poor choices.

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