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	<title>Comments on: In the Green Room: David Goldhill on How American Health Care Killed His Father</title>
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		<title>By: Who’s Blogging about Cato &#124; Think Tank West</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who’s Blogging about Cato &#124; Think Tank West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gerrit Lansing interviews David Goldhill during a Cato Hill Briefing, &#8220;How American Health Care Killed My [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James Conroy, MD, Sigourney, IA</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Conroy, MD, Sigourney, IA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad loss of Mr. Goldhill&#039;s father is symptomatic of how naive is the American public regarding what really transpires within hospitals. In retrospect, David might have  more safely kept his father home with antibiotics, and oxygen or even mask ventilation support at night, should it be needed. Home health nurses and respiratory therapy could have provided hospital equivalent services up to the level of the intensive care unit. 

The hospital environment has always, and will continue to be, a very toxic and risk laden environment especially for the very young and very old patient. The dictum, &quot;The longer you stay in the hospital, the greater the chance of you not leaving alive&quot; remains today as true as it was 100 years ago. 

We Americans often think of &quot;medical services&quot; (I wont dignify what our US system serves up as real &quot;health care&quot;) as a means to postpone death, the threat of which horrifies many patients (excluding those seeking narcotics) presenting during the night to the emergency rooms. 

The sad reality is that we physicians can do very little to postpone death for especially the frail elderly. What is tragic is that our nation is spending our grandchildren&#039;s money chasing this folly. They will have to foot the bill when the Medicare Trust fund dries up, spent by us baby boomers who will demand everything. //</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad loss of Mr. Goldhill&#8217;s father is symptomatic of how naive is the American public regarding what really transpires within hospitals. In retrospect, David might have  more safely kept his father home with antibiotics, and oxygen or even mask ventilation support at night, should it be needed. Home health nurses and respiratory therapy could have provided hospital equivalent services up to the level of the intensive care unit. </p>
<p>The hospital environment has always, and will continue to be, a very toxic and risk laden environment especially for the very young and very old patient. The dictum, &#8220;The longer you stay in the hospital, the greater the chance of you not leaving alive&#8221; remains today as true as it was 100 years ago. </p>
<p>We Americans often think of &#8220;medical services&#8221; (I wont dignify what our US system serves up as real &#8220;health care&#8221;) as a means to postpone death, the threat of which horrifies many patients (excluding those seeking narcotics) presenting during the night to the emergency rooms. </p>
<p>The sad reality is that we physicians can do very little to postpone death for especially the frail elderly. What is tragic is that our nation is spending our grandchildren&#8217;s money chasing this folly. They will have to foot the bill when the Medicare Trust fund dries up, spent by us baby boomers who will demand everything. //</p>
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		<title>By: Alex, New Zealand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex, New Zealand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone interested in this whole area of hospital acquired infections should go and have a look a company called Medizone International - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.medizoneint.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.medizoneint.com&lt;/a&gt; . These guys seem to be getting close to a solution using ozone based technology to address the sterilisation issue hospitals face. They are achieving Log 5 plus reductions on the main types of infections found in hospital environments. The stats talking about 100,000 deaths attributable to HAI are a disgrace. It is also a disgrace that a company like Medizone struggles to get funding assistance. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone interested in this whole area of hospital acquired infections should go and have a look a company called Medizone International &#8211; <a href="http://www.medizoneint.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.medizoneint.com</a> . These guys seem to be getting close to a solution using ozone based technology to address the sterilisation issue hospitals face. They are achieving Log 5 plus reductions on the main types of infections found in hospital environments. The stats talking about 100,000 deaths attributable to HAI are a disgrace. It is also a disgrace that a company like Medizone struggles to get funding assistance.</p>
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		<title>By: Link Dump--from yesterday's web browsing - Medary.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Link Dump--from yesterday's web browsing - Medary.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: In the Green Room: David Goldhill on How American Health Care Killed His Father &#124; Conservative Principles Now</title>
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		<dc:creator>In the Green Room: David Goldhill on How American Health Care Killed His Father &#124; Conservative Principles Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rayford Davenport</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayford Davenport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I am truly sorry to see anyones demise,the same treatment brought my brother back from stage four cancer. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I am truly sorry to see anyones demise,the same treatment brought my brother back from stage four cancer.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan, Minnesota</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan, Minnesota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife passed away a year ago from a rare type of cancer called inflamatory breast cancer. We had the best insurance that paid practically everything. Even with this insurance and the ability to pay ourselves it was amazing how much research I had to do and the egos I had to battle to get her proper care.  But I was really floored when I got an email from the American Cancer Society wanting my horror stories with my insurance so they could use it to promote Obamacare. I asked them why would you support something that would ration care and most likely give less to the terminal or who they deemed terminal. They didn&#039;t have an answer. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife passed away a year ago from a rare type of cancer called inflamatory breast cancer. We had the best insurance that paid practically everything. Even with this insurance and the ability to pay ourselves it was amazing how much research I had to do and the egos I had to battle to get her proper care.  But I was really floored when I got an email from the American Cancer Society wanting my horror stories with my insurance so they could use it to promote Obamacare. I asked them why would you support something that would ration care and most likely give less to the terminal or who they deemed terminal. They didn&#039;t have an answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon, Durango, CO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon, Durango, CO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the sixties the AMA attacked what they perceived as competition, health food stores, chiropractors, holistic medicine, Scientology, other practices who claimed to heal something. I think the AMA was taken over by the same plutocrats who took over the Democratic Party. I&#039;ve seen them use government agencies, IRS, essentially every imaginable thing was done to eliminate competition in medicine. It has become unthinkable to withdraw from using doctors, and illegal. Soon we will all have to pay for the excesses of Medicine, it is hysteria. The doctors aren&#039;t the big winners, it is the Plutocrats. And what? They want half of the Nation&#039;s income in the near future for a product increasingly poor while the media are all agog about how good American Medicine is.  
 
American Medicine is not so good, not so available and not so effective as we think. It now costs ten times as much for half the result. I think statistics have been used to baffle us. I think the new diseases are actually word games, like Obama waffling on about what is a tax. Normal human aging is a disease nowadays, so it is a free for all for the plutocrats. It has nothing to do with health. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the sixties the AMA attacked what they perceived as competition, health food stores, chiropractors, holistic medicine, Scientology, other practices who claimed to heal something. I think the AMA was taken over by the same plutocrats who took over the Democratic Party. I&#039;ve seen them use government agencies, IRS, essentially every imaginable thing was done to eliminate competition in medicine. It has become unthinkable to withdraw from using doctors, and illegal. Soon we will all have to pay for the excesses of Medicine, it is hysteria. The doctors aren&#039;t the big winners, it is the Plutocrats. And what? They want half of the Nation&#039;s income in the near future for a product increasingly poor while the media are all agog about how good American Medicine is. </p>
<p>American Medicine is not so good, not so available and not so effective as we think. It now costs ten times as much for half the result. I think statistics have been used to baffle us. I think the new diseases are actually word games, like Obama waffling on about what is a tax. Normal human aging is a disease nowadays, so it is a free for all for the plutocrats. It has nothing to do with health.</p>
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		<title>By: John, Colorado</title>
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		<dc:creator>John, Colorado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His dad&#039;s infection could have been cured using intravenous or even oral doses of Vitamin C.  It cures the flu, too.  A doctor would rather you die than use it. 
 
My dad was killed by a hospital bureaucracy, by a blood clot six days after emergency back surgery, and about 20 minutes after getting back from a die injection.  He was supposed to be brought back flat on his back on a gurney, but was mistakenly brought back upright sitting in a wheelchair. 
 
When my sister dragged a nurse in to get one to look at Dad, and the nurse recognized the problem, she called a nurse at the desk to call code blue.  That nurse said she was busy.  A scream the second time got her calling. 
 
Dad was worth $54,000 to the hospital for the harvesting and handling of the tissues they were able to harvest in spite of the blood clots and radioactive dye.  The bill for just the hospital was $11,000.  He was an iatrogenic casualty at the least. 
 
A single security guard with no relatives, I once met where my cousin works, disappeared after going to the same hospital for a hernia surgery.  Six weeks later his place of employment got a notice of his death.  I would not be surprised if that poor guy signed the organ donor card, or that it even made a difference if he did. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His dad&#039;s infection could have been cured using intravenous or even oral doses of Vitamin C.  It cures the flu, too.  A doctor would rather you die than use it.</p>
<p>My dad was killed by a hospital bureaucracy, by a blood clot six days after emergency back surgery, and about 20 minutes after getting back from a die injection.  He was supposed to be brought back flat on his back on a gurney, but was mistakenly brought back upright sitting in a wheelchair.</p>
<p>When my sister dragged a nurse in to get one to look at Dad, and the nurse recognized the problem, she called a nurse at the desk to call code blue.  That nurse said she was busy.  A scream the second time got her calling.</p>
<p>Dad was worth $54,000 to the hospital for the harvesting and handling of the tissues they were able to harvest in spite of the blood clots and radioactive dye.  The bill for just the hospital was $11,000.  He was an iatrogenic casualty at the least.</p>
<p>A single security guard with no relatives, I once met where my cousin works, disappeared after going to the same hospital for a hernia surgery.  Six weeks later his place of employment got a notice of his death.  I would not be surprised if that poor guy signed the organ donor card, or that it even made a difference if he did.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry from Chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry from Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, people do contract infections while hospital confined and some do die of these infections.  However, it is too simplistic to say that hospitals and doctors don&#039;t care.  It is deplorable that some health care providers do provide the proper care for a patient.  These individuals, if proven guilty of poor care or malpractice should not just be sued, but stripped of their licenses to practice.  I believe, however, that the majority of health care providers do care a great deal about their patients. 
 
Pneumonia is one of the most common forms of infection to occur among patients who are hospitalized as a result of inpatient surgery.  Hospitalized patients are in a weakened state possibly from the illness or injury that required their confinement and/or possibly from the surgery itself.  When a patients resistence is low, they are prime candidates for infection.  This is especially true of the elderly and of chronically ill patients.  Think of the number of non-patients there are in a hospital on any given day, doctors and nurses to be sure, but what about the visitors?  Family members and friends who come to visit hospitalized patients often come into close proximity to confined patients, bringing with them any number of germs. 
 
Doctors want to get post-surgical patients on their feet as soon as posssible following surgery to prevent fluids from building up in the lungs, precisely because such patients are susceptable to infection, which can easily turn into pneumonia.  Hospitals are eager to keep their facilities sanitized and germ free to the greatest extent possible.   
 
Yes, both doctors, nurses and hospital facilities can do better in keeping themselves sanitary and maintaining a grem-free environment.  But I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s fair to saythese professionals don&#039;t care. 
 
Many patients are </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, people do contract infections while hospital confined and some do die of these infections.  However, it is too simplistic to say that hospitals and doctors don&#039;t care.  It is deplorable that some health care providers do provide the proper care for a patient.  These individuals, if proven guilty of poor care or malpractice should not just be sued, but stripped of their licenses to practice.  I believe, however, that the majority of health care providers do care a great deal about their patients.</p>
<p>Pneumonia is one of the most common forms of infection to occur among patients who are hospitalized as a result of inpatient surgery.  Hospitalized patients are in a weakened state possibly from the illness or injury that required their confinement and/or possibly from the surgery itself.  When a patients resistence is low, they are prime candidates for infection.  This is especially true of the elderly and of chronically ill patients.  Think of the number of non-patients there are in a hospital on any given day, doctors and nurses to be sure, but what about the visitors?  Family members and friends who come to visit hospitalized patients often come into close proximity to confined patients, bringing with them any number of germs.</p>
<p>Doctors want to get post-surgical patients on their feet as soon as posssible following surgery to prevent fluids from building up in the lungs, precisely because such patients are susceptable to infection, which can easily turn into pneumonia.  Hospitals are eager to keep their facilities sanitized and germ free to the greatest extent possible.  </p>
<p>Yes, both doctors, nurses and hospital facilities can do better in keeping themselves sanitary and maintaining a grem-free environment.  But I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s fair to saythese professionals don&#039;t care.</p>
<p>Many patients are</p>
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