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October 2, 2009 Jessica, GA writes:

Can anyone tell me why we would spend billions of tax-payer dollars to start a new government run program when we can simply change laws allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines at no cost to us? Why would we not try that first? It’s not like the “public option” is even going to go in effect any time soon even if it is passed, but opening up competition across state lines would have a more immediate result. And what is the deal with saying that taxing insurance companies is going to lower the cost of health care? I’m not an economist, but as a business owner, I know that when you have higher operating costs–and taxes are part of operating costs, you have to raise your price to cover those costs. I just wonder what these law-makers are thinking–that we are somehow so dumb that we won’t see the idiocy of their plans–or do they just not care at all about the will of the people?

October 2, 2009 RetCMS, Arizon writes:

Reading the bill (vapor) will not delay or improve this. The “Dems” believe this is their time and the last election is verification. What ever bill is approved won’t be implemented until 2013. After the Dem-defeats in 2010 elections, I believe, Americans who want liberty over equality can reclaim our Constitution.

October 2, 2009 MotherRedDog writes:

The blatant disregard for the American population has never been so fully on display by the democrats (and some of the republicans I might add). If we somehow are able to stop or slow-up these massive tax schemes, we may have a chance to get real reform after the 2010 elections. No matter what happens, those that voted for these total destructive bills need to start packing; they are about to be run out of town.

October 2, 2009 Corky, Howey in the Hills, Fl writes:

This is NOT right!!What is going on with this healthcare bill? Why do they HAVE to pass it with without our knowing what’s in it? What are they hiding? This alone makes me suspicious and I KNOW there are MILLIONS of other people that feel the same way. I do not want this bill to pass in ANY FORM. I’m against abortion. I’m against my tax money paying for illegals. I’m against my Government putting their nose between my Doctor and myself. I will not but their insurance..I’ll go to jail first! All you low life democrats will get voted out next year and then we’ll see what we can do to change things around….

October 2, 2009 Larry D, Scottsdale, AZ writes:

Every Republican - governors, senators, representatives - including state representatives, MUST contact all media outlets (from local news programs and papers to cable and networks)to reveal the DEMOCRATIC tactics of sneakily ramming this down our throats. Some of the news outlets will refuse to cover the republican politicians. Then, THAT becomes the story. Two birds with one stone and all of that - the liberal media and unethical democratic politicians.

October 2, 2009 The Rise of the Vapor Bill — Call Your Senator Now to Stop It - Dan_Perrin’s blog - RedState writes:

[...] Brian Darling of the Heritage Foundation has done it again, he has mapped out the secret Senate Democratic Vapor bill strategy for ObamaCare: The Senate floor debate on health legislation could start as early as next week, but more likely they will consider Obamacare starting on October 13th. The Senate Finance Committee has been held up and will not have a final vote on the Committee bill until next Tuesday, therefore the Senate will have to wait another week before the debate starts. [...]

October 2, 2009 The HSA Coalition » The Rise of the Vapor Bill — And How to Stop It writes:

[...] Brian Darling of the Heritage Foundation has done it again, he has mapped out the secret Senate Democratic Vapor bill strategy for ObamaCare: The Senate floor debate on health legislation could start as early as next week, but more likely they will consider Obamacare starting on October 13th. The Senate Finance Committee has been held up and will not have a final vote on the Committee bill until next Tuesday, therefore the Senate will have to wait another week before the debate starts. [...]

October 2, 2009 Michelle Malkin » Obamacare update: Keep your eye on the “Vapor Bill” writes:

[...] about the “Vapor Bill” here — and keep melting those [...]

October 2, 2009 Bill San Antonio TX writes:

One could easily compare the “Vapor Bill” and the demos despicable tactics to force it on us as with a horse.

It’s not the initial “vapor” that is most worrisome, it is the solids which follow…

And, these tactics really stink.

October 2, 2009 Bob Mels writes:

The “Vapor Bill” already has acquired an odor. What shifty, stealthy sneaky ways to do our country’s business! Vote em all out.

October 2, 2009 Healthcare Reform Ram-Through Plan Exposed « NWI Patriots Blog writes:

[...] is going to enact fundamental change in the healthcare system come hell or high water.  The Foundry spills the [...]

October 2, 2009 Congress' Secret Method to Pass Obamacare: The Vapor Bill - INGunOwners writes:

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October 2, 2009 julio dallas writes:

It’s about power. They couldn’t care less about reform, just getting the power centralized in DC. Wake up.

October 2, 2009 Bob Miller writes:

First as American Patriots we must recognize that the Obama Administration and the Liberal Demoncrats will vote for passage of this bill.

We as voters MUST MAKE A STATEMENT BACK.

Anyone that votes FOR this bill… MUST BE REMOVED from office during the 2010 and 2012 elections.

This means that Barcus, Reid, Dodd, Franks, Snowe, Schumer, Pelosi and ALL OTHERS are told to hit the streets.

There has to be s serve penalty for not LISTENING to the PEOPLE.

We also need to go after the Kerry’s and all that voted to insure that the AMERICAN PEOPLE are denied the right to READ THE Bill prior to it being passed.

It is obvious that there are many, many Americans that have MORE BRAIN POWER than the POTUS and those on the HIll THAT VOTE for this junk WITHOUT reading the Bills.

If OBAMA approves any healthcare reform… we must go for
IMPEACHMENT for gross leadership failure.

His trip to Copenhagen to benefit his cronies in Chicago while letting our troops DIE when they need more support is paramount to TREASON.

By not talking to his Commanding General about what is needed to win the war for over 5 WEEKS… is a FAILURE to do his job.

Each death or crippling of any soldier during that five weeks is also… a blot on his SOUL.

His leadership failure has increased the number of dead and wounded. And that is a FACT.

IMPEACH OBAMA NOW.

October 2, 2009 The Vapor Bill – Congress’ Secret Plan to Pass Obamacare – Update « LiberateMedicine.com writes:

[...] READ MORE [...]

October 2, 2009 Dems Planning End Run On Health Care « The Underground Conservative writes:

[...] at The Foundry, Darling writes more about it here, calling what the Senate Finance Committee is considering a “vapor [...]

October 2, 2009 Democrats' Stealth Health Care | The Lonely Conservative writes:

[...] calls the Senate’s legislation The Vapor Bill, because we can’t see it. Nobody can because it doesn’t really exists. Isn’t that [...]

October 2, 2009 Democrats' Stealth Health Care | The Lonely Conservative writes:

[...] calls the Senate’s legislation The Vapor Bill, because we can’t see it. Nobody can because it doesn’t really exists. Isn’t that [...]

October 2, 2009 Jeffrey Schrembs, Washington DC Area writes:

Wonderful insightful article.
Please keep up the great work by giving American Citizens’ FACTS…and not spin.
Take care and God bless.

October 2, 2009 Randy Williams, Falls Church, VA writes:

Thank you for all the research you do. Giving us the truth about Obama care, Cap & Tax and the many other issues. You provide me with information i need to talk with the Liberals.

Thank you.

October 2, 2009 Proletariat Blog » Blog Archive » The Rule of Confusing Law - the musings of worker7219-12 writes:

[...] our congressional masters won’t let us read the text of the bill in question before they pass it I guess we won’t be able to judge the relative reading [...]

October 2, 2009 The Rise of the Vapor Bill — Call Your Senator Now to Stop It | WTF?! Obama writes:

[...] Brian Darling of the Heritage Foundation has done it again, he has mapped out the secret Senate Democratic Vapor bill strategy for ObamaCare: The Senate floor debate on health legislation could start as early as next week, but more likely they will consider Obamacare starting on October 13th. The Senate Finance Committee has been held up and will not have a final vote on the Committee bill until next Tuesday, therefore the Senate will have to wait another week before the debate starts. [...]

October 2, 2009 Wayne writes:

I agree with all Above that see the truth, we must do something about this monstrosity of a Administration born of Evil to desolve our Country, its not out of Ignorance but is an agenda to break us down to a level where we are weak enough to be overcome by our Enemy’s, everything that they are doing is a no no according to our Constitution …….

October 3, 2009 Bo writes:

The article says…liberals blocked an amendment that would allow a 72 hour period for reading the bill before it is voted on…. I thought congressmen worked for us, how can they deny us the opportunity to read the bill in its final form before it’s voted on? Yes, I know we can boot them out at the next election cycle, but that doesn’t give the people the power we need now to stop this foolishness. Other than the vote, ‘we the people’ really don’t have any other say in how government operates. That needs to be changed!

October 3, 2009 “Vapor bill” . . . what an interesting term « Bent Notes writes:

[...] Of course, those who coined it are referring to “broad outlines” of socialist health car… [...]

October 3, 2009 Cyndy South Carolina writes:

Every legislator needs to be put on notice. Any vote to support the Obamination is a vote against US. Every vote now is a career decision like no other time in history.
GO GREEN….RECYCLE CONGRESS
2010… the time for REAL change!

October 3, 2009 mindy from chattanooga tn writes:

I am so scared of our Congress and President that they won’t let the citizens read the final and complete bill (not only health reform…all bills)! What are they hiding from our Seniors that they won’t give us five days to read it before they vote on it…months ago President Obama promised us five days on the internet to read all bills.

It is like there was a United States of America one day and now when I see and hear this kind of action I don’t know what country I live in today!

Can we march into the Capitol again only with 3 or 4 million people?

October 4, 2009 sam writes:

plain and simple…vote out all the ones that don’t care…now that is change!

October 4, 2009 sam from florida writes:

plain and simple vote out all the ones that don’t care what the people think…now that is change!

October 4, 2009 Robert Price Springfield MO writes:

Note this bill will make you sick,PG 58 HC BILL-GOV WILL HAVE REAL-TIME ACCESS TO INDIVIDUALS FINANCES AND A NATIONAL ID HEALTH CARE CARD WILL BE ISSUED. PG 59 HC BILL LINE 21-24 GOV WILL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO YOUR BANKS ACCOUNTS FOR ELECTRONIC FUNDS TRANSFER.HC bill 3200 analysis by CADC Advisory board meember,Mat Staver of the Liberty Council, and Dean of Liberty University School of Law.

October 4, 2009 Kelly, TN writes:

I do not understand what you refer to as the “Vapor Bill.”
The Senate completed work on the bill Friday and the 262-page document is posted on many sites on-line. I can only imagine you are referring to the legislative outline that is required to add it as an amendment to existing law. I took the opportunity to read the bill and did not find it difficult to understand. I am not sure why anyone would need 72 extra hours. Is it written with disappearing ink?

October 4, 2009 The Health Care Bill Is About To Become The Vapor Bill | The Freedom Medium writes:

[...] has been held up and will not have a final vote on the Committee bill until next Tuesday…Read the rest of this entry Did you like this? If so, please addthis_pub = ’salvo’;bookmark it, about it, and subscribe to [...]

October 4, 2009 Nitro, Northern CA. writes:

My suggestion is, whatever bill passes, Just Say NO! Say No I do not want, nor will I accept your government sponsored medical insurance, or your stipulations. Fine me, Tax me, Penalize me…but by whatever name you call it…. It is still a TAX…Put me in jail…the answer is still NO! If all of us that oppose government interference would do this…there are not enough jails to contain us…nor enough IRS employees to collect fines, Taxes, etc. Think about it! What in the world could they do….”JUST SAY NO” I will not participate in this insane bill that will break and destroy this country! And we really are the Majority…Who have you personally talked to that wants this level of government control? NO! Does work, when it is enforced by the numbers, We really are in control!

October 5, 2009 Fourth and Goal - Stopping Baucus ObamaCare Bill - WOSG’s blog - RedState writes:

[...] your eye on the vapor bill. Heritage blogs the Democrats’ game plan: Here is what we know. Sources on K Street and on Capitol Hill have confirmed the following [...]

October 5, 2009 Turner, Massachusetts writes:

Why is this so important? So they can have DIRECT control of over 70% of the economy. When the upcoming financial disaster hits they won’t have to ask for permission to act any way they please. America, you have lost your country! [Healthcare:17%, Autos:10%, Unemployed (higher it goes more control):17%, Banks/Mortgage:15%, US Federal Operations: 15%]. They are going to pass it and there is nothing we can do now. Question: why does Obama see the need for a civilian police force? hmmmm. He says it will be bigger, better funded, and bigger equipped than our military. What does he plan for this to address? What are the states role?

October 5, 2009 Joe, Philadelphia writes:

I just hope people remain aware that anything that’s passed with a simple majority on the basis that it’s a budget item can be repealed with a simple majority and that free market minded officials (if there are any) don’t forget that fact and get timid when they get a shot to repeal this anti-freedom initiative.

October 5, 2009 Rayford Davenport writes:

Lets call the last twelve months what they are.It’s the looting of the U.S. Treasury.

October 5, 2009 randy johnson, Ilinois writes:

If this bill passes, the country will storm the capitol, weapons in hand!

October 5, 2009 Jeanne Stotler, woodbridge, Va writes:

What are these people trying to pull?, they think we are all idiots and cannot understand and do not know what is good for us. What are we a bunch of two year olds. When they are pushing something through this quick You can believe they are hiding something. I say 2010 get hese fools out and impeach this treasonist

October 5, 2009 NLH writes:

I’m certain the public has no idea about what is in HR 2454. Just the one part that, requires anyone selling a home (assume any kind condo, TH, etc.) must get a certification that you home is eco ready such as windows, doors, applicances AND if not “must” be replaced before you can sell you home. This bill is absurd and will place, if passed, a great hardship on many senior who have older homes and trying to sell. I don’t recall if this applies to reverse mortgages. It would also place a burden on sellers having to relocate quickly because of a new job. This bill has had very little coverage and really needs to be shown the light of day! This whole process Reid is trying to do is wrong and we can’t let him and Congress get away with this!

October 5, 2009 plumberswife writes:

this has to be stopped by whatever means, nitro has it right, it may take civil disobedience, go to their local offices and refuse to leave until they agree to stop this bill.
After all of the townhalls, rallies and phone calls, they just don’t get it…to arms my friends, to arms…the nation is under attack!

My mother would not only approve this message…she’d lead the charge

October 5, 2009 Perry OK writes:

What is not written is of greatness when does it all start? The game is to hamstring who ever wins in 2012. If obama win just 4 more years of paid vacations on our dime. If they loss a 2 year labor intensive rewrite again at our expense. It is time for CHANGE.As for me and my business, why work for less than 50 o/o of what I make. I may just lower my wages to min. And hire only green cards, or just quit doing business. They say it will be free anyway???

October 5, 2009 Latest ObamaCare Tactic: A Vapor Bill? « The View from Southern California writes:

[...] Bill” thing doesn’t make you crazy, you’re just not paying attention.  (Click HERE for the source of the [...]

October 5, 2009 BJB, Port Allen, LA writes:

I agree with you Nitro. I just hope enough Americans are willing to stand firm on their principles. And come 2010, lets vote ALL of these clowns out. Let’s take back our country.

October 5, 2009 Jack, Aurora, Ohio writes:

The health care blabber is just a cover-up for all the other disregards for our constitunial rights going on in Congress. Namely “Bail Out” newspapers and control the FCC.

October 5, 2009 Linda Carlsbad, CA writes:

We marched on Washington to oppose, the debt , the growing of government, health reform. They are not listening, can we recall all of them? This administration is killing our economy! We don’t need another big govenrment program rammed down our throats! When is Congress going to start working for the PEOPLE who pay their salaries? America cannot survive under what this President and Congress are spending! Forget about taking over our Health Care, what about the jobs?

October 5, 2009 Don H, Willis TX writes:

This nation is over 200 years old and has survived two centuries without a national health care plan. Why the “hurry up” to get something passed that no one knows anything about, and the house and senate included, because they have no intent of reading the bill?

October 5, 2009 Jerry from Chicago writes:

I certainly hope that Heritage will, through the Foundry, find and publish, the names of those who voted in the Senate to defeat the amendment offered by Senator Bunning, calling for a period of 72 hours for the proposed “Vapor” or shell bill to be read.

Why all of the insistence on secrecy? What are they trying to hide? I suspect this is just a parlimentary trick to sneak through the Obama Health Care Reform bill, as an amendment to an irrelevant bill, just to obtain passage uder false pretenses. We know from past performance that those in the House, Senate and White House do not read legislation before they vote on it or sign it into law.

How do these sort of tactics get past the House and Senate “Ethics” Committees? I don’t care what party is in power, Congressmen and/or Senators that engage in hiding legislation from the people are dishonest and don’t deserve their office. Adding amendments irrelevant to titled legislation should be absolutely barred. All too often this is done for spite by the opposition party. Bills on a given subject should pass or fail on their own merits. Poinsin pill amendments that have nothing to do with the legislation as initially proposed.

Legislation has become a political game of “gotcha”. This is childlike, spiteful and irresponsible behavior. American citizens are constantly getting hurt by this. We need to let our representative know this.

October 5, 2009 Lynn B. DeSpain writes:

When, in recent history, has Congress ever passed anything in the open? Consider the funding of ACORN and the ACLU. Both of those fundings were laway tied to other, obscure Bills, and will continue to be done so!
Our only hope is to have Single Bill Titles, with Single Bill containment, and to rid ourselves of all the blood sucking fleas in DC at this time, who use that system, and start anew, with a new system!

October 5, 2009 Terry, Northern Ca writes:

For at least ten years I have written George Miller on many issues that effect American life, Health is one of them. He is so against the citizen and American way of life. If he gets elected again we better get another country to watch our election. Government (Mostly Democrats) Have done every thing they for corruption to get bigger! Sick of special interest. We didn’t vote to get rid of our beloved constitution! I don’t want gov health care……..end corrpution!

October 5, 2009 Connie, Northern CA writes:

I agree wholeheartedly. JUST SAY NO!!!

October 5, 2009 Terry, Northern Ca writes:

For at least ten years I have written George Miller on many issues that effect American life, Health is one of them. He is so against the citizen and American way of life. If he gets elected again we better get another country to watch our election. Government (Mostly Democrats) Have done every thing they for corruption to get bigger! Sick of special interest. We didn’t vote to get rid of our beloved constitution! I don’t want Gov. health care……..End corruption! They used to call them honorable what a laugh

October 5, 2009 DAN MOFFATT NUTLEY,N.J. writes:

The government cannot cure all the ills in America.What runs the country now,is socialism,unlike anything seen before.The socialist left government has an agenda,to change America,on a grand scale.What greater way to endear themselves to less fortunate among us than,to force upon us all,something that we find
hateful.This government is clueless,and has no time to lose.If they don’t make change now,they never will.Their time will expire in 2010.All,who agree,will vote these elitists,and their supporters out of their comfortable chairs.
my values are not obamas values.ARE YOURS AMERICA??

October 5, 2009 Suzanne, Jackson, MS writes:

Good idea to storm the local offices. It is obvious that my Congressmen are conservative, but they have also proved that they love the pork and will add whatever it takes to get a bill they want passed. This is nothing new. We have to get our heads out of the sand and take a heavy stance and get them out of D.C. It appears they all need to go to prison!

October 5, 2009 John Roane Sarasota, Florida writes:

There is nothing you can do, if you don’t like it because they (Libs) are in power and looking to get even by turning this country into Euro State.

Let’s wait and see if they truly have the courage to do this and live with it. If they are going to take more than 50% of your pay check why work at all. Let them support us, until the revolution which would have to follow such as mess. If you don’t believe it ask King George.

October 5, 2009 D Garcia writes:

We can only wonder, what lies ahead as we watch the destruction of our country. When will those of us who believe in this Great Nation & in Freedom stand up and say “Enough is Enough”?

You must leave our house !

October 6, 2009 Phyllis Irons , Michigan writes:

We don’t have time to wait for 2010 we have to stop these idoits now!!!! We may loose our right to vote by then. this is what theese crazy people hope to do take every right we have away and they are working had to change our constitution or I should say destroy it. Does anyone remember the email found in the garbage about ayear ago, the plan was made if my memory is correct by the union that if they could pass this bill they would have all the power they need to appoint judges to change all our laws and they would never lose power.

October 6, 2009 S Funk writes:

Enough is enough,now what are we going to do about it,and what are we going to do to stop this madness.

October 6, 2009 Turner, Massachusetts writes:

There won’t be a 2010 or 2012 vote if there’s martial law in place.

October 7, 2009 Vapor Bill Outrage in the Imperial Senate - Dan_Perrin’s blog - RedState writes:

[...] Vapor Bill strategy that Brian Darling of the Heritage Foundation has been warning about for a week was just confirmed by a senior aide to U.S. Senate Majority [...]

October 7, 2009 Richard , Boston writes:

What is wrong with all people in America having access to Health Care as a right and not a previllage?.

When shall we stop this kind of animal behaviour of greed and selfishness?. People are suffering because they can not afford to pay for medical insurance and no body seems to understand that in all first world countries, Healthcare is a right to all citizens.

In wester Europe, people do not have to worry about access to healthcare because these country know that it is the duty of the entire public to ensure that all people, regardless of their financial status, have access to medical care when they need it.

America needs to move a step closer towards civilization by not upholding capitalist views as the only way of life.

Richard. Boston

October 7, 2009 Trick or Treat? – Halloween Shennanigans at the White House: Obama Continues Theatrical Approach « Lighthouse Patriot Journal writes:

[...] a very helpful rundown on how Obamacare is moving through Congress. Read about the “Vapor Bill” here — and keep melting those phones. Capitol Switchboard: [...]

October 7, 2009 Democrats Urge Their Senate Leader for More Transparency with Health Bills | Fix Health Care Policy writes:

[...] Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) and Jim Webb (D-Va.) pushed for the actual legislative text — not a conceptual framework that the Senate Finance Committee is working off of — along with complete budget scores from [...]

October 8, 2009 The Senate Cloakroom: Oct. 5 – 9 | Conservative Principles Now writes:

[...] Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and members of the Obama Administration continue their efforts to blend two committee health care bills into one, cumbersome monstrosity. Similarly, Senators John Kerry (D-MA) and Barbara Boxer (D-CA) will be [...]

October 8, 2009 Deborah writes:

I didn’t want to believe the conspiracy theories, but I am starting to think all the signs are there.
If we stand up against these people they will use the patriot act and call martial law and put us all in fema camps. Could there be an ounce of truth in this.
Their blatant move to get this passed shows that they really don’t care if they get reelected because there probably won’t be any elections.
Obama will be our dictator.

October 8, 2009 Going Nuclear: Health Care (Insurance) Reform Legislation « A Conservative Wanderer writes:

[...] Boehner Decries “Phantom Amendments” Added to Senate Health Care Bill After Committee Vote | 2. The Vapor Bill – Congress’ Secret Plan to Pass Obamacare - Update | 3. New plan might allow Dems to slip public option through [...]

October 9, 2009 Congress’ Secret Plan to Pass Obamacare – CONFIRMED « Because I Forget… writes:

[...] The Vapor Bill – Congress’ Secret Plan to Pass Obamacare – Update [...]

October 12, 2009 Stacie, AZ writes:

In response to Deborah, about conspiracy theories, and how they could do this without possibility of reelection, because there won’t be any more elections…

IMHO, IF the status quo really has changed, and we’ve been moved to a socialist or communist state, all these congress people are in line for big important positions in Obama’s “Dictators R Us” camp! They stand to win BIG, which is why they’re voting for themselves, versus their constituents.

October 18, 2009 Emily writes:

Vote the clowns of “Change” in Washington OUT: Can’t wait for 2010 and 2013…I am counting on your vote, and for you to do the right thing. We want solid American values, and our Freedom of choice back!!!