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  • Passing a Shell of A Bill: Congress' Secret Plan to Ram Through Health Care Reform

    With the President and Congress’s plan to pass comprehensive health care reform reaching increasingly high levels of unpopularity, and reconciliation becoming an impediment, the leadership of the Senate is rumored to be preparing a new secret plan to railroad the bill through the Senate in record time by using a seldom used parliamentary procedure.

    Their plan is to proceed to a House passed non-health care bill to provide a shell of legislation to give Obamacare a ride to the House then to the President’s desk.  Sound confusing? We lay out the steps below, but essentially the Senate would pass health care reform as an amendment to a completely unrelated bill so the Senate and House could act quickly and without further debate. Even worse? Nobody really knows what that legislation looks like but they plan on voting for it anyway.

    Right now, the Senate Finance Committee is in the midst of marking up health care reform “legislation.” Due to Senate procedure, what they are actually marking up is a 200+ page conceptual framework of the actual legislation, not a real bill. That means that not only has no Senator even read the bill but, there is a high probability that the bill hasn’t even been written yet. If the Committee sticks to their artificial deadline of completing work by this Friday then they would have passed a conceptual document reforming the nation’s health care system, spending trillions, without ever seeing an estimated 1,500 pages of legislation, which may or may not be written.

    The current plan is to start debate on Obamacare as early as next week under the following four-step scenario:

    STEP ONE:  The Senate Finance Committee will finish work on the marking up of Senator Max Baucus’ (D-MT) conceptual framework for legislation by this Friday. Baucus has not unveiled final legislation and, according to the Associated Press, he added some new language to the mark up today. AP reports that “under pressure from fellow Democrats, the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee decided to commit an additional $50 billion over a decade toward making insurance more affordable for working class families.” 

    Senators have not been provided any real legislation and are offering amendments this week to Baucus’ 200+ page outline. It is expected that at the end of the process the Senate Finance Committee may produce a bill longer than the 1,000 page House bill that proved so controversial over the August recess. Many Senators are upset that they don’t have final language for a bill, yet still they sit in a Committee Hearing Room this week marking up a draft document that is not in the form of legislative language. The plan is to have this document voted out of the Senate Finance Committee by Friday.

    STEP TWO:  Next, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will take the final product of the Senate Finance Committee and merge it with the product of the Senate Health, Education, Labor & Pensions (HELP) Committee.  This was the late Senator Kennedy’s (D-MA) bill, introduced by Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA), which passed the HELP Committee on July 15, 2009 on a party line vote.  Remember, most Senators will still not know what they voted for in the Finance Committee.

    STEP THREE:  Senator Reid will then move to proceed to H.R. 1586, a bill to impose a tax on bonuses received by certain TARP recipients. This bill was the bill passed by the House in the wake of the AIG bonus controversy and is currently sitting on the Senate Legislative Calendar. Reid will move to proceed, and he will need 60 votes to act on this bill.  After the motion is approved, he will then offer a complete substitute bill purportedly including the combined Senate HELP and Finance Committee products.  This means that the entire health care reform effort will be included as an amendment to a TARP bill that has been collecting dust in the Senate for months.

    STEP FOUR:  For this strategy to work, the proponents would need to hold together the liberal caucus of 57 Democrats, 2 Independents (Senators Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Bernie Sanders of Vermont), and a potential new member replacing the late Senator Kennedy. This scenario would most likely be implemented after the Massachusetts state legislature gives Governor Deval Patrick the power to appoint a new Senator and that Senator is seated by the Senate. According to CQ, the state legislature may pass a bill and present it to Governor Patrick by next week.

    Once the Senate passes a bill and sends it to the House, all the House would have to do is pass the bill, without changes, and President Obama will be presented with his health care reform measure thereby transforming within a few weeks 1/6th of the US economy. If this plan does not work, the Senate and House Leadership may consider using reconciliation to pass the legislation. For a more detailed explanation of the reconciliation scenario, please see the Heritage Foundation’s Fact Sheet on Reconciliation here or a handy guide on Reconciliation published in Human Events earlier today.

    Does this sound like a transparent, bipartisan and effective way to change the way millions of Americans get their health care? Of course not.

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    97 Responses to Passing a Shell of A Bill: Congress' Secret Plan to Ram Through Health Care Reform

    1. J.C. Hughes, Texas says:

      No one likes an underhanded cheat be they representatives, senators or presidents. Any form of Obamacare is bad for the nation and individual Americans. If congress' manages to force such a misguided plan on citizens, it'll take decades to undo the damage. It's so damned unnecessary. Scrap this whole congressional debate and return such healthcare efforts back to the states. The only reform currently needed is within the halls of congress itself.

    2. HJ says:

      Fixed what is broken, the current system is fine althiugh I agree, some tweaking needs to be done, but not overhaul the entire system and be controlled by the federal government. Selfess judges wanting more power and allowing ridiculious lawsuits into their courts and greedy lawyers chasing ambulances to fill they stinkin pockets with cash is the real problem. When Dr's spend out of this world expenses to insure themselves against such ridiculious lawsuits, no wonder it has become such a mess.

    3. Whicket Williams Kin says:

      We must eliminate the career politician This will require the greatest grass roots movement in history, as the entrenched crooks have all the money and media on their side, which will all be brought to bear on any honest challenger. We all saw how both so-called parties attacked SARA PALIN, who is the only honest politician in the world. Everyone must find someone whom they know and trust, and convince them to run, to save our way of life from the destruction planned for us.Everybody must stay focused, and work to make sure not a single career politician up for re-elections gets back in. Then, we can disrupt and delay the destruction of the country until 2012, when, after we get the rest of them out, we can repair the damage, and rebuild out country. If we fail in 2010, we are finished So, everybody, start today. Do not be deterred. I need to see this repeated far and wide. I need to see fresh names for every office that has elections in 2010. And we need to be focused. ALL get behind ONE candidate, democrat or republican is not important, only that is it a person selected by us, not the corrupt machine ruling us like serfs.

    4. Bobbie Jay says:

      That's right. The intent is exposed. Kill the bill and create REFORM without government intervention/competition/corruption as the people understood it would be BEFORE THE ELECTION! A COMPETENT GOVERNMENT FOR THE PEOPLE, CAN REFORM AT NO COST.

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    6. Cold Warrior, Arizon says:

      Tired of a lack of principled outrage from the Republicans? Tired of no principled leadership and strategies to fight these outrages? Ready to do something about it? Did you know 50 per cent of the precinct committeeman slots nationwide in the Republican Party are VACANT. That there's a 50-50 slot between moderates and conservatives in the Party? Want to change that to a 75-25 split in favor of conservatives. Then become a precinct committeeman NOW so you can change the Party from within in the next election cycle. Go here to learn more:
      http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com. Real all three articles.

      Thank you. Cold Warrior.

    7. S.Sullivan, Palm Bea says:

      Miss. Gov. Haley Barbour was interviewed today and stated that bringing in basic tort reform decreased healthcare costs 47%. It is blatently obvious that this is not of interest to Obama. It is not even mentioned in the Bacaus Bill. He has taken the idea of believing he has a mandate and distored it into something very out of step with the American people. The dishonesty and corruption are really beyond the pale. If Congress uses the "nuclear option" against the will of the people the may find us using it on them in 2010.

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    12. jim sardis,ms says:

      Whatever,bill is passed will have underlying time released capsules to give the government control of health care. The only goal of the left is to takeover control of everything.capitalism is being replaced with socialism and there are not enough patriot politicians to do anything about it. The American public has become more and more aware of the radical takeover by the radicals but can only help purge the congress of the corruption next year. Even,then big money and corruption will be able to keep the career crooks in office and in control of the committees.

    13. Dale Tampa FL says:

      I'm sick of politicians. They all need to be voted out of office and term limits should be set.

    14. Raccman - Califon, N says:

      PEOPLE – THIS IS WHY WE HAVE TO VOTE ALL OF THEM OUT OF OFFICE AS THEY COME UP FOR RE-ELECTION ! THEY CAN NO LONGER BE TRUSTED !

    15. Raccman - Califon, N says:

      People ! This is why we must vote them out of office – as they come up for re-election ! They can no longer be trusted to do our bidding and to represent us.

    16. Corky, Howey in the says:

      Do you have any idea how many AMERICANS would rather go to jail as apposed to paying a fine for not getting Health insurance FORCED on us through a cheap trick like this? Jails will fill up mighty fast!!!That's just the beginning. The MAJORITY OF "We The People" DO NOT want it or want only parts of our system fixed. I don't want obama and his minions making laws against what the PEOPLE want and against the CONSTITUTION!!!

    17. okiejim says:

      We are witnessing more Hugo Chavez style attempts at governing without representation. What is unseemly is the fact that so many of our elected representatives in the House and Senate are so complicitous. These tactics will only end with the 2010 elections – hopefully, but by then it may be too late.

    18. Chris, Arkansas says:

      I never really liked listening to John Madden describe how the NFL plays "worked" It was tedious. This is even more so. Legislation is not a page out of the NFL playbook. Harry Reid is not an NFL coach and there is no big Lombardi trophy that he can hoist into the air for a photo op at the end. This, unfortunately for us, is our lives and I wish the Congress could treat it as such. My healthcare, and everyone elses, is not an amendment to be tacked on so Harry can get another won in the WIN column. We deserve better.

    19. Charles, The Republi says:

      I think that there is still a misconception about Obamacare killing grandma. By the time this abomination is fully implemented, it will have it's crosshairs fixed on the "Boomers". Comrade Obama has said that "end of life care" is costly & Comrade Pelosi wants to "squeeze" Medicare. I suggest patriotic Americans bring brooms to their next Tea Party. It time to "clean the House" & take out the trash. In addition any member of any state legislature that doesn't stand up for the 10th Amendment needs to go! They work for us!

    20. C. Siders, Michigan says:

      If D.C. spent as much time educating themselves on issues as they do on underhanded agendas we would not need to cleanse the whole bunch. I need a shower after reading this scenario. Does anyone else feel dirty after reading what they will proudly tote as an achievement?

    21. Bill, Forney, TX says:

      … the Dems have the ball and know the clock is running down. Desperate times call for desperate measures and we see here the lengths the Dems & Obama believe that they must go to get what they see as a win. The opponent in this game is the American people. Substantial tort reform was enacted in TX and now the medical licensing board can't keep up with the flood of doctors coming in from other states to practice (at these other state's peril). It is becoming more obvious as time passes that tort reform will be the real key to reducing health care costs and the Dems know this. The lawyer lobby owns the Dems and don't want this approach taken. You can see why Obama & the Dems are in a hurry to pass THEIR form of health care reform …

    22. Jean Weingartner,Fl says:

      Charles is right we have to keep up the pressure and make sure these employees listen to their employers WE THE PEOPLE.Or they all get the pink slip in 2010.

    23. M. Anderson, Massach says:

      Obama knows he is a one term Pres., that is why he wants to change America as we know it.

      The foolish people of my state voted Deval Patrick in with his mantra "yes we can" nobody knew what yes we can was about. Now they know he is known as "Tax it all Deval" on the Cape. Hopefully Deval Patrick will be a one term Gov.

      We need to stop the trainwreck that is about to change this country.

    24. Dennis Idaho says:

      From small minded ACORNS powerful socialist grow.

      "The best things in history are accomplished by people who get 'tired of being shoved around.'"(Heinlein)

      Time to shove back. Remove everyone who is not clearly conservative.

    25. ron hansing says:

      THE TSUNAMI OF ALL BUBBLES, THE DEBT BUBBLE HAS ALREADY BUSTED… IT'S JUST THAT PEOPLE HAVEN'T REALIZED IT YET.

      This year the all taxes collected will all go for all the entitlements? We will borrow everything else. And we want to add more entitlements? sure, we’ll just give tax credits and government money to the poor. But where will this money come from?

      Both Parties in Congress, and the President have taken up playing the fiddle.

      ron hansing

    26. John Rosky Andover, says:

      Why in the hell are these people still dealing with something the American people do not want.

      There are many more problems to face in this country and this needs to stop and deal with defending the country,getting jobs, selling OUR

      shares in AIG,Government Motors and stopping funding for ACORN.The congress and senate are so in OBAMA'S pocket that we just need to stop it all and start from scratch. I hope that it won't be too late at the 2010 elections that this can not be reversed.

    27. Bette, Bridgewater, says:

      Isn't that unconstitutional ! How can we stop these traitors ? The whole dam bunch should be impeached !!! I know one of these days soon I am going to have a heart attack reading this stuff. At least I won't have to watch our country be destroyed. It is literally breaking my heart…….

    28. Elaine Schiff, West says:

      the states of Oregon, Washington and Montana have assisted suicide laws- In Oregan 2 cancer patients on medicare were refused chemo even though their doctors prescibed it . The "health board refused and offered to pay for assisted suicide.

    29. Lyn, Texas says:

      I would just as soon get away from the United States Government all together, through secession. Texas has the resources to do it and other states are also considering the same exit. Thousands of Texans are ready for secession. check this out: http://www.texasnationalist.com

    30. Jeanne Stotler, wood says:

      Elininating the "Bad Seed" has to start with state goverments, here in virginia we have a PART TIME Govenor, he's too busy running the DNC, I agree every Rep. should be voted out if he's corupt. My Rep. answers my letters telling me he agrees with me on "Health care reform" yet I am telling him I do not want the reform he is for. these are form letters, same goes for both senators, THEY DON'T READ OUR LETTERS, they do not care what we think as one arragant congressman said "HE knows better what we want" so does OBAMA he believes he knows what is best for all of us, he wants to rule not govern.

    31. Jim, Evensville Tenn says:

      Not sure how we can stop them they will pass a shell then at the 11th hour stuff in amendments to change it and now one will be the wiser until later on.

      I will vote against all Dems next time out. For mayor, city council, sheriff or and congress and senate seat.

      They need to get the picture they work for us.

    32. bobtx1_us, Texas says:

      This underhanded strategy is what you would expect from a true 3rd world banana republic but is what we now get as a result of "hopeychange". Maybe that's the true aim of the people in power.

    33. Prevailer76AZ says:

      During the presidential campaign the primary focus was on the economy as being the most critical issue. Once in office, Obama's efforts have been on everything except to address improving the economy. No wonder we the people are screaming foul! Then when things don't go their way, the administration stoops to any means to get their favored legislation passed, knowing full well it will serve to expand the bureaucracy and increase beyond belief the indebtedness to the taxpayer. None of which figures for a president who claims to serve our beloved country.

    34. Dory, St Croix says:

      This administration would have a formidable problem on its hands if we all refuse to pay for mandated health insurance and income taxes. Why are we paying for things we don't want? They can't throw 200 million of us in jail, and I'd love to see them try to collect fines or penalties from everyone.

    35. Dennis A. Social Cir says:

      THIS IS SO WRONG!!!!! wHEN WILL THE PEOPLE WAKE UP AND SMELL THE STINK OF DEMS AND OBAMA WILLING TO LIE, CHEAT AND STEAL THEIR WAY TO POWER AND CONTROL. I AM FED UP WITH THEIR UNDERHANDED WAYS AND THE MY OR NO WAY OF THE DEMS AND OBAMA. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY, WITH A GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE AND BY THE PEOPLE. GUESS I FOUGHT IN THE JUNGLES OF VIETNAM FOR ALL THE WRONG IDEAS.

    36. Leon, Durango, CO says:

      Legally, ours is a Pseudo Democratic Plutocracy. It is not authorized under the Constitution as a "Republican Form Of Government" so it is ILLEGAL.The whole damned thing, State, Local and Federal. That's what Campaign Reform did for us, put us in the hands of Plutocrats. Traitors is right, the damned Democrats have served Marx's 12 Step program, nothing but for a hundred years!

    37. Jerry from Chicago says:

      I've been keeping up with the responses from contributors to the Foundry. Nearly all are saying the same thing, "We don't want the federal government taking over health care in this country." But that is not the same as saying we are all against health insurance reform.

      There are plenty of things that can be done to make health insurance more affordable and more accessable, within the health insurance system. 1. Pre-existing conditions limitations can be eliminated across the board fore both individual and group health insurance policies.

      2. Laws can be changed to allow insurance companies to compete and sell health insurance policies across state lines.

      3. Laws can be changed or implemented to curtail

      nuisance medical malpractice law suits and to redirect monetary punitive damage awards from plaintiffs and their attorneys. This would reduce medical malpractice insurance premiums paid by doctors and hospitals. It would also reduce the number of unnecessary tests doctors call for when practicing "defensive medicine".

      4. The federal and state governments can stop implementing laws that continually call for broader medical benefits and broader eligibility for those benefits.

      As I see it, the only protection we have against the Senate's ploy of using a shell bill to disguise their health care plan would be that Senators opposed to such legislation would see this and report it to the public. That assumes of course that the full Senate would be given copies of this legislation to read before voting on it. However, if our Senators don't start getting better about reading what they vote on, all is lost.

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    39. joseph hohmann says:

      If this group of incompetent legislators pass the healthcare "bills" this way ot would be very helpful if you or others could describe what actions to stop implementation could be taken by concerned voters other then voting them out which is almost and impossibility. Is there any legal means through the courts to stop iy or can we get an early supreme court ruling?

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    42. Roger D says:

      VIRGINIA CHURCH SERVICE -STIMULUS SERMON

      I would love to give the Pastor of this predominantly black church in Virginia a hug and a high five. This guy is obviously a leader and not one of the sheep. Perhaps we should each decide who our real leader is………….

      It is amazing to see that very little has changed in 4,000 years.

      RECENT VIRGINIA CHURCH SERVICE -STIMULUS SERMON

      Gen 47:13-27

      Good morning, brothers and sisters; it's always a delight to see the pews crowded on Sunday morning, and so eager to get into God's Word. Turn with me in your Bibles, if you will to the 47th chapter of Genesis, we'll begin our reading at verse 13, and go through verse 27.

      Brother Ray, would you stand and read that great passage for us?

      ….(reading)…

      Thank you for that fine reading, Brother Ray…. So we see that economic hard times fell upon Egypt , and the people turned to the government of Pharaoh to deal with this for them. And Pharaoh nationalized the grain harvest, and placed the grain in great storehouses that he had built. So the people brought their money to Pharaoh, like a great tax increase, and gave it all to him willingly in return for grain. And this went on until their money ran out, and they were hungry again.

      So when they went to Pharaoh after that, they brought their livestock -their cattle, their horses, their sheep, and their donkey – to barter for grain, and verse 17 says that only took them through the end of that year..

      But the famine wasn't over, was it?

      So the next year, the people came before Pharaoh and admitted they had nothing left, except their land and their own lives. "There is nothing left in the sight of my lord but our bodies and our land. Why should we die before your eyes, both we and our land? Buy us and our land for food, and we with our land will be servants to Pharaoh." So they surrendered their homes, their land, and their real estate to Pharaoh's government, and then sold themselves into slavery to him, in return for grain. What can we learn from this, brothers and sisters?

      That turning to the government instead of to God to be our provider in hard times only leads to slavery? Yes. That the only reason government wants to be our provider is to also become our master? Yes.

      But look how that passage ends, brothers and sisters! Thus Israel settled in the land of Egypt , in the land of Goshen . And they gained possessions in it, and were fruitful and multiplied greatly." God provided for His people, just as always has! They didn't end up giving all their possessions to government, no, it says they gained possessions!

      But I also tell you a great truth today, and an ominous one. We see the same thing happening today – the government today wants to "share the wealth "once again, to take it from us and redistribute it back to us. It wants to take control of healthcare, just as it has taken control of education, and ration it back to us, and when government rations it, then government decides who gets it, and how much, and what kind. And if we go along with it, and do it willingly, then we will wind up no differently than the people of Egypt did four thousand years ago – as slaves to the government, and as slaves to our leaders.

      What Mr. Obama's government is doing now is no different from what Pharaoh's government did then, and it will end the same. And a lot of people like to call Mr. Obama a "Messiah," don't they? Is he a Messiah? A savior? Didn't the Egyptians say, after Pharaoh made them his slaves, "You have saved our lives; may it please my lord, we will be servants to Pharaoh"?

      Well, I tell you this – I know the Messiah; the Messiah is a friend of mine; and Mr. Obama is no Messiah! No, brothers and sisters, if Mr. Obama is a character from the Bible, then he is Pharaoh.

      Bow with me in prayer, if you will.

      Lord, You alone are worthy to be served, and we rely on You, and You alone. We confess that the government is not our deliverer, and never rightly will be. We read in the eighth chapter of 1 Samuel, when Samuel warned the people of what a ruler would do, where it says "And in that day you will cry out because of your king, whom you have chosen for yourselves, but the LORD will not answer you in that day." And Lord, we acknowledge that day has come. We cry out to you because of the ruler that we have chosen for ourselves as a nation. Lord, we pray for this nation. We pray for revival, and we pray for deliverance from those who would be our masters. Give us hearts to seek You and hands to serve You, and protect Your people from the atrocities of Pharaoh's government.

      In God We Trust…

    43. L. R. Crane, Louisia says:

      All that we have heard and read is nauseating, to say the least. It is mind boggling how all this can be done right under our noses. Now that we know it can and is being done, I have two questions:

      1. There are opponents to the health care proposals and ideas in Congress who represent all of us who are equally opposed, why can't those people do something about it?

      2. What can we, the people, do about it, other than read, listen, and get upset? Yes, we can vote them out next election, but that will be too late.

    44. ellen, wisconsin says:

      We blame the legislators and politicians, but we will get exactly what we deserve.

      Over time we have adopted a false dichotomy of right and left. It now seems more important whether we identify as a liberal or a conservative than whether we identify as an American.

      The only people to benefit from this form of identification are the politicians and the rich. We haven't just given up on our leaders, we have given up on each other. The only way to change this is to demand reasonable debate and behavior from ourselves, our neighbors, our representatives, and the press.

      We are our own worst enemies.

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    47. Daniel says:

      Please post this self-explanatory video link in every blog and website you know / have access to. It just might convert some Obama drones… and rally the rest of us on! Heard Senator Jim DeMint on radio again this morning, repeat that he desperately needs WE THE PEOPLE to keep pushing for the TRUTH to come out, about who's in cahoots with the big power brokers and who's for a free health care provider / insurer solution!

      Ok, this is worth every MINUTE (ONLY 4) to watch this! THIS HITS IT OUT OF THE BALL PARK ! AND IT ONLY has HAD 24,048 views

      It was taken inside Congress. YOU HAVE TO WATCH THIS and YOU MUST PASS THIS ON!!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=G44NCvNDLfc

    48. Michele, PA says:

      So what do we do!?!? I'm sick of feeling helpless! I've written to so many Senators and House Reps . . .

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    51. Mary Shepard new jer says:

      I believe that the healthcare bill should be published on the internet for everyone to read. Let the taxpayer decide for themselves if it is too difficult to read.Anything in legal terms that can't be understood could easily be put into laymens terms. I personally believe that since it is our tax money that it being used up,once again,we should be able to have a voice.

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    54. Gammi, Virginia says:

      "We the People" have once again been ignored & will be forced into a government run health care plan that we do not want. Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, & Obama told us they WOULD use the nuclear option if necessary to do this. We thought we could object & defeat the health care bill. We were WRONG!!! Many groups are preparing petitions & encouraging phone call to our lawmakers. They don't care because they have a plan in place already to assure no Democrat will lose a congressional seat & no republican will win one.

      The American people have a powerful tool within our power. We could call it our nuclear option. We will all have to put our neck on the line, stand firm, & stick together. Our power comes from our ability to cut off the governments money supply by refusing to pay taxes. If a few do this it will be futile. If millions do this, it will give us the power to take back ourgovernment.

      All the team or foundation groups should develope & circulate a 'no more taxes' petition for members to sign. It must be done immediately & we all need to assist by signing, forwarding to our friends & family, asking them to sign & forward it. This method could carry some risk of threats from the government, but if we stick like glue to defend each other, what can they do?

      If anyone thinks my idea is anti-American, let me say I agree. But it is by my CHOICE. If we do nothing we will all be FORCED to become anti-American & into a socialist government. We will work to support the government, not our families.

      I've been a health care provider for forty years. I KNOW our present system has some flaws. I KNOW the bill will cause irreversible damage to our health care delivery system. I KNOW how the government plans to use the "trigger" to enact the public option, taking total control. I also KNOW that you can not un-ring a bell.

    55. Dennis Cline Yorkt says:

      If they ram this through we should march on Wash. again even stronger than befor.

    56. Debra A. Ladieu says:

      Dick Morris says he thinks he has the answer to defeat this bill. He said on Fox News that he outlines a way on his website. Haven't seen it yet, hope he is right.

    57. RPH, Baton Rouge Lou says:

      I agree with Whicket Williams of Kingsbury Texas! It's past time to get rid of the CAREER POLITICIANS! Few senators & even fewer of congress are listening to Americans & what they really want. We DO NOT need any more government spending nor do we need to keep paying for the lifestyles to which the senate & congress have become accustomed on AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS! It's time to start afresh!

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    59. Stan R. Bradford says:

      Congress doesn't care what we the people think, that is very clear by their actions. I've said it before and I'm saying it again … Re-Elect No One in 2010 & 2012 that is the only way they will listen … Show them the door!!!

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    61. Marshall,Michigan says:

      No more Carreer Politicians!

    62. Gammi, Virginia says:

      Obama's mouthpiece, Rahm Emmanuel, Sen. Max Baucus

      & President in her own mind Nancy Pelosi, have all said that the health reform bill will be passed before they leave for the Thanksgiving break. While we can & should vote against every supporter of this bill, it will be too late for us to save our health care system. If this bill is passed, it will be irreversible & the damage to our medical community & delivery system will already be so vast, it cannot be fixed. We must stop this bill in it's tracks now. Our only tool is to refuse to give the government our money. No more Taxes without representation. I will make my phone calls first thing in the morning, knowing that my representatives will never get my message. I'll know that I tried. As Obama likes to say 'Let there be no doubt', this bill will deliver us unto socialism.

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    64. Surgeon says:

      I am a young independent and highly trained surgeon. Unfortunately, if this type of legislation passes, I have resolved to no longer practice medicine. The law of unintended consequences is real. I believe that America will have lost an entire generation (if not more) of physicians because of this legislation. Furthermore, the knowledge that I and others have will not be passed down further to those training to practice surgery in the future.

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    68. Globals says:

      all good things

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    70. judy,iowa says:

      I BELIEVE THAT SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS "OUR HEALTHCARE" SHOULD BE PUT TO A PUBLIC VOTE. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT OBAMA OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER KNOWS WHAT IS BEST FOR ME WHEN IT COMES TO MY HEALTH CARE. IT IS TIME THAT WE "AMERICANS" (LEGAL AMERICANS) TAKE BACK "OUR" COUNTRY!

      IF WE WERE TELLING PELOSI AND MICHELLE OBAMA AND THIS CONGRESS WHAT WE THINK IS BEST FOR THEM I BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD BE MAD TOO. THIS DOUBLE STANDARD CRAP HAS GOT TO STOP. AMERICA IS GOING BROKE FAST WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION.

    71. willie, florida says:

      Re:I agree with Whicket Williams of Kingsbury Texas! It’s past time to get rid of the CAREER POLITICIANS!

      We need to be rid of the Shadow Govt! They WRITE the laws.

      They are the STAFFERS. They have to go.

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    75. Kathy, Orlando Fl says:

      Tort reform and illegal immigrant reform as well (no free pass). The answer to healthcare problems!!!!

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    95. Jan Quiggins Thousan says:

      Sounds like the dems are trying to use a trojan horse to take control of one sixth of our economy. Everyone who votes for this bill that isn't even written or read should be impeached including the top dog. Bad bill, bad congress, bad president!

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