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		<title>By: The Absurd Report &#187; You Can Help Free Our Energy Today</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Absurd Report &#187; You Can Help Free Our Energy Today</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: J. White, retired [c</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. White, retired [c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been involved in the so-called &quot;environmental sciences&quot; since 1967.  To date, painting with a large brush here, I have met less than 5% who actually even had a genuine clue about what they were spouting. 
 
They are childish and are continually trying to metamorphosize subjectivity into objectivity- a most nauseous action.  There is no sum nor substance to most of what they &quot;propose&quot; as &quot;green&quot;.  Unless and until THEY can find a real way to abbrogate Arhennius&#039; Law regarding energy into a process as compared to energy produced by that process, what they propose is not possible. It is the &quot;stuff&quot; of fantasy.  
 
As an example with the over-simplification of solar energy, when you consider that the amount of energy- mining of the silicon, the hydrofluoric acid for the process, the grinding of the silicon into disks, there is NO NET POSITIVE GAIN. They are grossly inefficient when converting light energy to power output That is why fuels such as natural gas, coal, and oil are so energy efficient...it takes far far less energy to extract them for use than they produce. 
 
As I, and so many others see it, this excuse for a president and his &quot;friends&quot; are set upon destroying this nation&#039;s sovereignty.  By being dependent upon foreign sources for our basic energy needs is an insidious situation for us. 
 
Two fellow scientists and I wrote a major paper for Congress via the DOE regarding the issues with coal.  We have in this nation, the largest coal reserves in the world at some 25 trillion pounds of coal that is easily recoverable.  Enough by our econometrics to last for no less than 250 years at the present rate of use. 
 
As for oil, there IS one glaring problem- whether you like it or not, my former college students were correct in their assessment that the oil companies are an unprincipled lot- the oil on the North Slope was &quot;sold&quot; to the US as the oil was just for us; however, what did they do?  They began to sell it to the Japanese...not very much ever reached the lower 48 states.  So, unless and until ALL of the oil/natural gas is sold here, it is not going to happen. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been involved in the so-called &quot;environmental sciences&quot; since 1967.  To date, painting with a large brush here, I have met less than 5% who actually even had a genuine clue about what they were spouting.</p>
<p>They are childish and are continually trying to metamorphosize subjectivity into objectivity- a most nauseous action.  There is no sum nor substance to most of what they &quot;propose&quot; as &quot;green&quot;.  Unless and until THEY can find a real way to abbrogate Arhennius&#039; Law regarding energy into a process as compared to energy produced by that process, what they propose is not possible. It is the &quot;stuff&quot; of fantasy. </p>
<p>As an example with the over-simplification of solar energy, when you consider that the amount of energy- mining of the silicon, the hydrofluoric acid for the process, the grinding of the silicon into disks, there is NO NET POSITIVE GAIN. They are grossly inefficient when converting light energy to power output That is why fuels such as natural gas, coal, and oil are so energy efficient&#8230;it takes far far less energy to extract them for use than they produce.</p>
<p>As I, and so many others see it, this excuse for a president and his &quot;friends&quot; are set upon destroying this nation&#039;s sovereignty.  By being dependent upon foreign sources for our basic energy needs is an insidious situation for us.</p>
<p>Two fellow scientists and I wrote a major paper for Congress via the DOE regarding the issues with coal.  We have in this nation, the largest coal reserves in the world at some 25 trillion pounds of coal that is easily recoverable.  Enough by our econometrics to last for no less than 250 years at the present rate of use.</p>
<p>As for oil, there IS one glaring problem- whether you like it or not, my former college students were correct in their assessment that the oil companies are an unprincipled lot- the oil on the North Slope was &quot;sold&quot; to the US as the oil was just for us; however, what did they do?  They began to sell it to the Japanese&#8230;not very much ever reached the lower 48 states.  So, unless and until ALL of the oil/natural gas is sold here, it is not going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: John, Colorado</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/18/morning-bell-you-can-help-free-our-energy-today/#comment-56652</link>
		<dc:creator>John, Colorado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the book, &#8220;Fuel From Water&#8221;, 11th edition, by Michael A. Peavey, page 238: 
 
&#8220;In Mill&#8217;s invention hydrogen gas collides with a heated cathode to compress hydrogen atoms. The energy released is reported to be about one thousand times greater than for hydrogen combustion.&#8221; 
 
&#8220;A 200 hp car going 50 mph using this process will go a hundred thousand miles on a tank of water&#8230;&#8221; 
 
&#8220;One cup of water with the hydrogen atoms shrunk to half size produces 25kWh. At 1/20th size produces 3500kWh enough to heat a home for a month.&#8221; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the book, &ldquo;Fuel From Water&rdquo;, 11th edition, by Michael A. Peavey, page 238:</p>
<p>&ldquo;In Mill&rsquo;s invention hydrogen gas collides with a heated cathode to compress hydrogen atoms. The energy released is reported to be about one thousand times greater than for hydrogen combustion.&rdquo;</p>
<p>&ldquo;A 200 hp car going 50 mph using this process will go a hundred thousand miles on a tank of water&hellip;&rdquo;</p>
<p>&ldquo;One cup of water with the hydrogen atoms shrunk to half size produces 25kWh. At 1/20th size produces 3500kWh enough to heat a home for a month.&rdquo;</p>
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		<title>By: John, Colorado</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/18/morning-bell-you-can-help-free-our-energy-today/#comment-56651</link>
		<dc:creator>John, Colorado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the book, &quot;Fuel Frmo Water&quot;, 11th edition, by Michael A. Peavey, page 238: 
 
&quot;In Mill&#039;s invention hydrogen gas collides with a heated cathode to compress hydrogen atoms.  The energy released is reported to be about one thousand times greater than for hydrogen combustion.&quot; 
 
&quot;A 200 hp car going 50 mph using this process will go a hundred thousand miles on a tank of water...&quot; 
 
&quot;One cup of water with the hydrogen atoms shrunk to half size produces 25kWh.  At 1/20th size produces 3500kWh enough to heat a home for a month.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the book, &quot;Fuel Frmo Water&quot;, 11th edition, by Michael A. Peavey, page 238:</p>
<p>&quot;In Mill&#039;s invention hydrogen gas collides with a heated cathode to compress hydrogen atoms.  The energy released is reported to be about one thousand times greater than for hydrogen combustion.&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;A 200 hp car going 50 mph using this process will go a hundred thousand miles on a tank of water&#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;One cup of water with the hydrogen atoms shrunk to half size produces 25kWh.  At 1/20th size produces 3500kWh enough to heat a home for a month.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Todd, Las Vega</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/18/morning-bell-you-can-help-free-our-energy-today/#comment-56636</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Todd, Las Vega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss Pelosi missed her calling. She should have been an actress! </description>
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		<title>By: Whicket Williams Kin</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/18/morning-bell-you-can-help-free-our-energy-today/#comment-56481</link>
		<dc:creator>Whicket Williams Kin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why have we not done anything about this since 1973 when the first massive cost increase occurred? Obama&#039;s Agenda will not work in a strong economy, so bankrupting America is his goal. I thought we were agreed on this ? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why have we not done anything about this since 1973 when the first massive cost increase occurred? Obama&#039;s Agenda will not work in a strong economy, so bankrupting America is his goal. I thought we were agreed on this ?</p>
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		<title>By: william boyer cincin</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/18/morning-bell-you-can-help-free-our-energy-today/#comment-56456</link>
		<dc:creator>william boyer cincin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy Pelosi is a wealthy phony, laden with expensive clothing and jewels, who knows nothing about the way ordinary Americans live. Her hair care alone would probably keeps most of us for a year.  Nothing that comes from her mouth is rooted in reality. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy Pelosi is a wealthy phony, laden with expensive clothing and jewels, who knows nothing about the way ordinary Americans live. Her hair care alone would probably keeps most of us for a year.  Nothing that comes from her mouth is rooted in reality.</p>
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		<title>By: V Wilkinson, UK</title>
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		<dc:creator>V Wilkinson, UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American consumption of fossil fuels per capita is far higher than any other nation in the world.   
 
How many of you people have spent any time looking at the evidence that has been amassed on the environment question.  How many of you can honestly say they have the ability to assess the viewpoint of environmental destruction and understand the massive risks involved in persisting in exploiting carbon based fuels.   
 
Let us assume that the environmental doom sayers are wrong.  With the global population explosion continuing as it has through the 20th century, pressure on oil resources will continue to increase.  Remaining oil resources are, in the balance of probability, already overstated.  Oil companies future profitability and share price depend not on the oil they currently produce, but on their future reserves.  There is great conjecture that future reserves are overstated and there is good evidence that the current reserves are at peak production and can only go down from this point on.  Being profligate will oil now leaves a dire legacy for our children.  One far more damaging than a policy which actively seeks alternatives. 
 
Let us assume a different scenario.  One in which the environmentalists have some evidence of global warming.  Now, what effect will global warming have on future global and national prosperity.  Well, the big thing is nobody knows for certain how the global environment will change.  Evidence suggests that the ice caps are melting right now, and very quickly too.  (I&#039;ve seen claims that this is not true and that glaciers around the world are growing, but I cannot find evidence to support this claim).  Evidence also suggests that those ice caps act as mirrors and that they reflect much of the suns heat back into space.  If they melt, the oceans absorb the extra heat, global weather patterns could be affected radically.   
 
I live in the UK.  In my lifetime the weather has changed dramatically.  There are more storms hitting the UK.  The seasons are less regular than the used to be and many native species struggle to survive.  I talked to a fisherman, a man with 60 years experience of fishing the North Sea, one of the most demanding environments on earth.  He said they were catching squid and pollock, species not previously caught in those waters, and also basking sharks, never seen in his lifetime previously.  This man said to me &quot;I&#039;ve no doubt global warming is occurring, the waters of the North sea are getting warmer, the gulf stream which used to dissipate north of Scotland and at the start of the English channel is now driving round into the north sea&quot;.  We are now cropping fruit an month earlier than was traditional.  All this might seem beneficial, but it is very worrying.  Rainfall, previously falling on Southern Europe is moving northwards and the former regions are suffering drought conditions.  I point out the campaign &quot;Agua para todos&quot; in southern Spain, a region I&#039;ve been to and one facing increasing water shortages (which will damage prosperity).   
 
If we do destroy our environment, it will be our children who will foot the bill.  Millions if not billions of people who could be potentially displaced would go where?  Food shortages caused by crop failure would cause what effect on prices?   
 
Why is environment a right wing - left wing polarised issue in the US and not elsewhere in the world.   
 
It was Margaret Thatcher who said &quot;In some areas, the action required is primarily for individual nations or groups of nations to take. But the problem of global climate change is one that affects us all and action will only be effective if it is taken at the international level. It is no good squabbling over who is responsible or who should pay. We have to look forward not backward, and we shall only succeed in dealing with the problems through a vast international, co-operative effort.&quot; 
 
While all the comments made here make me think you are all ready to grab your pitchforks and storm the Whitehouse, have all of you spent time reading books about this issues, looked at the reports of what the true cost of global warming could be.  Have you the ability to be impartial or un-partisan.  Look at your own NOAA web site.  This organisation is collecting data on global climate and six of the last fifteen years are the warmest ever recorded.  2009 has recorded the warmest ocean temperatures on record.  We need to know what is happening.  This cannot be dismissed without good counter argument.  Read the Stern report, it is available on the internet.   
 
Don&#039;t denigrate environmental issues until you have good evidence to counter their arguments.  China has a fifth of the worlds population yet still doesn&#039;t use anywhere near as much energy per capita as the US.  You are the most important country in the world, so show some wisdom, some justice and fairness to the rest of the world.  We too are affected by your decisions.  Don&#039;t let us down with poor stewardship. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American consumption of fossil fuels per capita is far higher than any other nation in the world.  </p>
<p>How many of you people have spent any time looking at the evidence that has been amassed on the environment question.  How many of you can honestly say they have the ability to assess the viewpoint of environmental destruction and understand the massive risks involved in persisting in exploiting carbon based fuels.  </p>
<p>Let us assume that the environmental doom sayers are wrong.  With the global population explosion continuing as it has through the 20th century, pressure on oil resources will continue to increase.  Remaining oil resources are, in the balance of probability, already overstated.  Oil companies future profitability and share price depend not on the oil they currently produce, but on their future reserves.  There is great conjecture that future reserves are overstated and there is good evidence that the current reserves are at peak production and can only go down from this point on.  Being profligate will oil now leaves a dire legacy for our children.  One far more damaging than a policy which actively seeks alternatives.</p>
<p>Let us assume a different scenario.  One in which the environmentalists have some evidence of global warming.  Now, what effect will global warming have on future global and national prosperity.  Well, the big thing is nobody knows for certain how the global environment will change.  Evidence suggests that the ice caps are melting right now, and very quickly too.  (I&#039;ve seen claims that this is not true and that glaciers around the world are growing, but I cannot find evidence to support this claim).  Evidence also suggests that those ice caps act as mirrors and that they reflect much of the suns heat back into space.  If they melt, the oceans absorb the extra heat, global weather patterns could be affected radically.  </p>
<p>I live in the UK.  In my lifetime the weather has changed dramatically.  There are more storms hitting the UK.  The seasons are less regular than the used to be and many native species struggle to survive.  I talked to a fisherman, a man with 60 years experience of fishing the North Sea, one of the most demanding environments on earth.  He said they were catching squid and pollock, species not previously caught in those waters, and also basking sharks, never seen in his lifetime previously.  This man said to me &quot;I&#039;ve no doubt global warming is occurring, the waters of the North sea are getting warmer, the gulf stream which used to dissipate north of Scotland and at the start of the English channel is now driving round into the north sea&quot;.  We are now cropping fruit an month earlier than was traditional.  All this might seem beneficial, but it is very worrying.  Rainfall, previously falling on Southern Europe is moving northwards and the former regions are suffering drought conditions.  I point out the campaign &quot;Agua para todos&quot; in southern Spain, a region I&#039;ve been to and one facing increasing water shortages (which will damage prosperity).  </p>
<p>If we do destroy our environment, it will be our children who will foot the bill.  Millions if not billions of people who could be potentially displaced would go where?  Food shortages caused by crop failure would cause what effect on prices?  </p>
<p>Why is environment a right wing &#8211; left wing polarised issue in the US and not elsewhere in the world.  </p>
<p>It was Margaret Thatcher who said &quot;In some areas, the action required is primarily for individual nations or groups of nations to take. But the problem of global climate change is one that affects us all and action will only be effective if it is taken at the international level. It is no good squabbling over who is responsible or who should pay. We have to look forward not backward, and we shall only succeed in dealing with the problems through a vast international, co-operative effort.&quot;</p>
<p>While all the comments made here make me think you are all ready to grab your pitchforks and storm the Whitehouse, have all of you spent time reading books about this issues, looked at the reports of what the true cost of global warming could be.  Have you the ability to be impartial or un-partisan.  Look at your own NOAA web site.  This organisation is collecting data on global climate and six of the last fifteen years are the warmest ever recorded.  2009 has recorded the warmest ocean temperatures on record.  We need to know what is happening.  This cannot be dismissed without good counter argument.  Read the Stern report, it is available on the internet.  </p>
<p>Don&#039;t denigrate environmental issues until you have good evidence to counter their arguments.  China has a fifth of the worlds population yet still doesn&#039;t use anywhere near as much energy per capita as the US.  You are the most important country in the world, so show some wisdom, some justice and fairness to the rest of the world.  We too are affected by your decisions.  Don&#039;t let us down with poor stewardship.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam Curtis, Lewisvil</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/18/morning-bell-you-can-help-free-our-energy-today/#comment-56409</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam Curtis, Lewisvil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I don&#039;t adhere to the policy of &#039;Global Warming&#039;-just another political fear tactic. We have natural resources at our fingertis in America we NEED to explore. Certain special interest groups have their own agendas.  It boils down to $$$$ and not real concern for our people. They are the same ones that &#039;hug&#039; trees, save &#039;whales&#039; committ genocide, and kill unborn babies. 
If the planet is as old as the scientists claim it is, then it will continue to survive another few hundred years. Global warming won&#039;t destroy it.  Man&#039;s radical desire to kill his fellow man will do that more successfully. History has and is proving that already. Mankind in this present world, won&#039;t last more than a few hundred years anyway. So...lets use the natural resources we have at this present time, put money back into America&#039;s pockets and create real jobs. I&#039;m tired of getting oil from countries that don&#039;t have our Country&#039;s interests at heart. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I don&#039;t adhere to the policy of &#039;Global Warming&#039;-just another political fear tactic. We have natural resources at our fingertis in America we NEED to explore. Certain special interest groups have their own agendas.  It boils down to $$$$ and not real concern for our people. They are the same ones that &#039;hug&#039; trees, save &#039;whales&#039; committ genocide, and kill unborn babies.</p>
<p>If the planet is as old as the scientists claim it is, then it will continue to survive another few hundred years. Global warming won&#039;t destroy it.  Man&#039;s radical desire to kill his fellow man will do that more successfully. History has and is proving that already. Mankind in this present world, won&#039;t last more than a few hundred years anyway. So&#8230;lets use the natural resources we have at this present time, put money back into America&#039;s pockets and create real jobs. I&#039;m tired of getting oil from countries that don&#039;t have our Country&#039;s interests at heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland D, Claus, Ber</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/18/morning-bell-you-can-help-free-our-energy-today/#comment-56407</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland D, Claus, Ber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The predominate choleric temperament expressed by the narcistic mind and spirit which looks into the self reflection in the pool for counsel and guidance, presents a frightening dominating President who gathers around himself a small army of reflections of self in the pool czars and enforcers for tyrannizing the USA. 
 
Congress is brushed aside, laws are either ignored, twisted, and the everpresent insistent voice speaks not truth, but the expediency of the moment to accomplish Obama&#039;s ends.  Those ends are blatant power which by it&#039;s very nature flushes out of existence serving the needs of the people.  As I dubbed him the first time I laid eyes on him, the Great Pretender focuses on self, then the enemy, the people. 
 
Never before has this nation been threatened as now.  There is no other choice.  He must be bottled up and constrained by the rising chorus of the people.  Our future is in our hands, and it must be by truthtelling and a dedicated informed people who care enough to pay the price to preserve their freedom.  There will be much pain, but he too can be overcome. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The predominate choleric temperament expressed by the narcistic mind and spirit which looks into the self reflection in the pool for counsel and guidance, presents a frightening dominating President who gathers around himself a small army of reflections of self in the pool czars and enforcers for tyrannizing the USA.</p>
<p>Congress is brushed aside, laws are either ignored, twisted, and the everpresent insistent voice speaks not truth, but the expediency of the moment to accomplish Obama&#039;s ends.  Those ends are blatant power which by it&#039;s very nature flushes out of existence serving the needs of the people.  As I dubbed him the first time I laid eyes on him, the Great Pretender focuses on self, then the enemy, the people.</p>
<p>Never before has this nation been threatened as now.  There is no other choice.  He must be bottled up and constrained by the rising chorus of the people.  Our future is in our hands, and it must be by truthtelling and a dedicated informed people who care enough to pay the price to preserve their freedom.  There will be much pain, but he too can be overcome.</p>
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