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	<title>Comments on: Big Labor Wins, And Americans Lose &#8230; Again</title>
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		<title>By: Buy American Tires Or The Baby Gets Run Over By A Hummer! &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buy American Tires Or The Baby Gets Run Over By A Hummer! &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, maybe I missed something, but: If you are going to have free trade, then it has to be done with certain rules in place to insure a level playing field.  My understanding is that when China joined the World Trade Organization and when the USA established trade agreements with China; that China agreed to abide by these rules.  They haven&#039;t.  Now, I understand that tariffs are problematic, but what other recourse do we have to get China to play by the rules. 
 
Also, I agree that there will be a cost increase on some tires - in the short term.  But it is a very competetive market, and in the long term, those prices should come down.  I think it is a worthwile price to pay to keep some jobs in the US. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, maybe I missed something, but: If you are going to have free trade, then it has to be done with certain rules in place to insure a level playing field.  My understanding is that when China joined the World Trade Organization and when the USA established trade agreements with China; that China agreed to abide by these rules.  They haven&#039;t.  Now, I understand that tariffs are problematic, but what other recourse do we have to get China to play by the rules.</p>
<p>Also, I agree that there will be a cost increase on some tires &#8211; in the short term.  But it is a very competetive market, and in the long term, those prices should come down.  I think it is a worthwile price to pay to keep some jobs in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Grassroots in Nebraska: In the News, September 11-18, 2009 &#124; Grassroots in Nebraska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grassroots in Nebraska: In the News, September 11-18, 2009 &#124; Grassroots in Nebraska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dave from Boyertown</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave from Boyertown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Mike from Bordentown NJ and I consider myself a Pat Buchannon Conservative. Free trade especially with China has caused not only job losses but a loss of tax revenue and added to our national debt. China now owns at least a trillion dollars of our debt which is not good for our economy or our national security. Imagine if we let China drive all our tire manufacturers out of business and China then cuts off their exports to us and then threatens to invade our country. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mike from Bordentown NJ and I consider myself a Pat Buchannon Conservative. Free trade especially with China has caused not only job losses but a loss of tax revenue and added to our national debt. China now owns at least a trillion dollars of our debt which is not good for our economy or our national security. Imagine if we let China drive all our tire manufacturers out of business and China then cuts off their exports to us and then threatens to invade our country.</p>
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		<title>By: Trackball Lights - serving 24/7 - Page 3315 - BlackBerry Forums at CrackBerry.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trackball Lights - serving 24/7 - Page 3315 - BlackBerry Forums at CrackBerry.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: When will the rubber meet the road? &#171; When Freedom Rings</title>
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		<dc:creator>When will the rubber meet the road? &#171; When Freedom Rings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] growing and now the conservative think-tank, Heritage Foundation has entered the fray (full story HERE): As if President Barack Obama’s decision to undermine the rule of law and give the United Auto [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bruno somewhere in t</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruno somewhere in t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At one time unions served a good purpose in improving working conditions, wages, benefits,  . However, they have screwed themselves because of their greed and unrealistic demands.  Look what they did to the auto, steel, shipping, cruiseliner, garment and other industries in America. Unions are the political allies of 
the socialist/fascist/marxist regime currently in power in this country. The card-check crap currently under consideration to stop secret ballots in deciding union representation is nothing more than a scheme to harass, force and intimidate workers into joining a union. I applaud the recent decertification of the union shop at the Boeing facility in Charleston.  More union shops should follow the same path. As far as Chinese tires are concerned, they are garbage anyway like everything else coming out of that country. Their quality reminds me of the days when one had to cope with stuff &quot;Made in Occupied Japan&quot;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At one time unions served a good purpose in improving working conditions, wages, benefits,  . However, they have screwed themselves because of their greed and unrealistic demands.  Look what they did to the auto, steel, shipping, cruiseliner, garment and other industries in America. Unions are the political allies of</p>
<p>the socialist/fascist/marxist regime currently in power in this country. The card-check crap currently under consideration to stop secret ballots in deciding union representation is nothing more than a scheme to harass, force and intimidate workers into joining a union. I applaud the recent decertification of the union shop at the Boeing facility in Charleston.  More union shops should follow the same path. As far as Chinese tires are concerned, they are garbage anyway like everything else coming out of that country. Their quality reminds me of the days when one had to cope with stuff &quot;Made in Occupied Japan&quot;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry from Chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry from Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just how &quot;free&quot; is free trade?  When every manufacturing job has been outsouced to countries outside of America, how are the American workers who lost those jobs supposed to survive?  They won&#039;t be paying taxes.  They won&#039;t be able to pay their mortgages, put food on the table, gas in thei cars, or buy clothes for their kids.  Are they supposed to become complete wards of the federal government?  What will it cost the rest of us who may have a job to support these people?  How many people in the U.S. will have the means to buy the goods and services American business wants to sell them? 
 
We as a country must be able to provide a place of work for our citizens who need work and want to work.  Our citizens need to be able to earn a living wage.  A family of four needs to earn $55,000 to $60,000 a year to live very modestly.   
 
We must refuse to export jobs to countries that buy nothing from us.  We must refuse to buy things from countries that buy nothing from us. We need to have an equitable balance of trade.  This government must stop borrowing money from China (or any other country) to finance its debt.  How can we negotiate fair balances of trade with countries to whom we owe so much money?  The answer is, we can&#039;t.  This country must stop spending money it doesn&#039;t have and has to borrow. 
 
Serious choices need to be made and each will have consequences.  It may be time to stop paying for the defense of Western Europe and Southeast Asia, called for in our NATO and SEATO Treaties.  We have been doing this since the end of WWII and these treaties need to be renegotiated.  Other nations have an unfair trade advantage over the U.S. and its the U.S.&#039;s own fault.  A large percentage of tax dollars goes towards defense spending, not just for our country, but for Western Europe, Southeast Asia, Canada, Mexico, Central and South America. These countries also tax their citizens, but instead of devoting a lion&#039;s share of their budget to defense spending they use that money to subsidize their country&#039;s businesses.  We can&#039;t afford to do this any longer.  It&#039;s time to renegotiate.  If all these countries want the U.S. to defend them then they have to come up with huge sums money payable to Uncle Sam (no checks please).  Maybe when these countries have to start paying for their oen defense, they won&#039;t have a lot of cash left to subsidize their businesses, making them more competitive than ours. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just how &quot;free&quot; is free trade?  When every manufacturing job has been outsouced to countries outside of America, how are the American workers who lost those jobs supposed to survive?  They won&#039;t be paying taxes.  They won&#039;t be able to pay their mortgages, put food on the table, gas in thei cars, or buy clothes for their kids.  Are they supposed to become complete wards of the federal government?  What will it cost the rest of us who may have a job to support these people?  How many people in the U.S. will have the means to buy the goods and services American business wants to sell them?</p>
<p>We as a country must be able to provide a place of work for our citizens who need work and want to work.  Our citizens need to be able to earn a living wage.  A family of four needs to earn $55,000 to $60,000 a year to live very modestly.  </p>
<p>We must refuse to export jobs to countries that buy nothing from us.  We must refuse to buy things from countries that buy nothing from us. We need to have an equitable balance of trade.  This government must stop borrowing money from China (or any other country) to finance its debt.  How can we negotiate fair balances of trade with countries to whom we owe so much money?  The answer is, we can&#039;t.  This country must stop spending money it doesn&#039;t have and has to borrow.</p>
<p>Serious choices need to be made and each will have consequences.  It may be time to stop paying for the defense of Western Europe and Southeast Asia, called for in our NATO and SEATO Treaties.  We have been doing this since the end of WWII and these treaties need to be renegotiated.  Other nations have an unfair trade advantage over the U.S. and its the U.S.&#039;s own fault.  A large percentage of tax dollars goes towards defense spending, not just for our country, but for Western Europe, Southeast Asia, Canada, Mexico, Central and South America. These countries also tax their citizens, but instead of devoting a lion&#039;s share of their budget to defense spending they use that money to subsidize their country&#039;s businesses.  We can&#039;t afford to do this any longer.  It&#039;s time to renegotiate.  If all these countries want the U.S. to defend them then they have to come up with huge sums money payable to Uncle Sam (no checks please).  Maybe when these countries have to start paying for their oen defense, they won&#039;t have a lot of cash left to subsidize their businesses, making them more competitive than ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn B. DeSpain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn B. DeSpain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all need to take a pause and look back in our own history to the time prior to Unions. The time of Child Labor. The time of men and women working under terrible conditions with basically no safety items in place, working twelve, fourteen and sixteen hour days, six and sometimes seven days a week.  
A time before Anti-Trust Laws were made. These were the times when the very few were rich and the majority were the very poor and there were no middle class! 
Unions of themselves are not a bad thing. They help Labor and Management to come to agreements by opening the books and allowing &#039;Fair Profits for the owners and &quot;Fair Wage and Benefits&quot; for the Labor. 
The issues with Unions began when governmental bodies actually forced Employees, including teaches, to form Unions. 
Now the only truly strong unions left are the Government/Teachers unions. This is a result of allowing millions of Illegal Aliens to come into this Nation and work in industries other than Agriculture, and destroying all the other unions. This is a result of allowing foreign auto makers to come into this Nation and building cars and trucks without organized labor.  
The example given and the dollar amount given does not include the tire dealers, nor the tire transporters nor the warehousers of those american made tires.  
Union bashing is a slight of hand trick to take our focus off the real issues that we as a Nation of Free Citizens must deal with; a runaway Congress and President who care nothing about the Constitutional limitations set forth as limits to their powers. The uncounted Trillions spent on the care and feeding of Illegals in this Nation. The Billion spent on useless studies condoned by our elected officials that when completed, sit in warehouses and accomplish nothing. The millions wasted in time by Legislatures on whether a a member should apologize to them for a member speaking out against the President. Many more millions wasted in creating non-American Holidays and discussing the creation of non-American Holidays. The hundreds of millions wasted in creating school books for our children in grade school to taught that we, in this Nation, have two Thanksgivings, one for the Pilgrims and one for Mexico!  
The terrible, terrible waste of money in not utilizing our own resources such as oil and natural gas, and refining them here, and building more refineries!  
The idiocy of adding alcohol to gasoline to reduce CO2, resulting in less milage and more fuel consumption, with the hidden risk of reducing our own Nation&#039;s food supply, and not remembering the Irish Potato Famine, where the English demanded that the Irish grow only one type of potato, and a blight hit and destroyed them all! Now we on a vast scale grow only one type of corn, for fuel! Risky? History says so. 
So stop blaming Unions, and each other, and just get down to fixing the problem. The problem lies in our Nations Capital, and we can fix it by replacing its members, one politician at a time! 
Hozro </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all need to take a pause and look back in our own history to the time prior to Unions. The time of Child Labor. The time of men and women working under terrible conditions with basically no safety items in place, working twelve, fourteen and sixteen hour days, six and sometimes seven days a week. </p>
<p>A time before Anti-Trust Laws were made. These were the times when the very few were rich and the majority were the very poor and there were no middle class!</p>
<p>Unions of themselves are not a bad thing. They help Labor and Management to come to agreements by opening the books and allowing &#039;Fair Profits for the owners and &quot;Fair Wage and Benefits&quot; for the Labor.</p>
<p>The issues with Unions began when governmental bodies actually forced Employees, including teaches, to form Unions.</p>
<p>Now the only truly strong unions left are the Government/Teachers unions. This is a result of allowing millions of Illegal Aliens to come into this Nation and work in industries other than Agriculture, and destroying all the other unions. This is a result of allowing foreign auto makers to come into this Nation and building cars and trucks without organized labor. </p>
<p>The example given and the dollar amount given does not include the tire dealers, nor the tire transporters nor the warehousers of those american made tires. </p>
<p>Union bashing is a slight of hand trick to take our focus off the real issues that we as a Nation of Free Citizens must deal with; a runaway Congress and President who care nothing about the Constitutional limitations set forth as limits to their powers. The uncounted Trillions spent on the care and feeding of Illegals in this Nation. The Billion spent on useless studies condoned by our elected officials that when completed, sit in warehouses and accomplish nothing. The millions wasted in time by Legislatures on whether a a member should apologize to them for a member speaking out against the President. Many more millions wasted in creating non-American Holidays and discussing the creation of non-American Holidays. The hundreds of millions wasted in creating school books for our children in grade school to taught that we, in this Nation, have two Thanksgivings, one for the Pilgrims and one for Mexico! </p>
<p>The terrible, terrible waste of money in not utilizing our own resources such as oil and natural gas, and refining them here, and building more refineries! </p>
<p>The idiocy of adding alcohol to gasoline to reduce CO2, resulting in less milage and more fuel consumption, with the hidden risk of reducing our own Nation&#039;s food supply, and not remembering the Irish Potato Famine, where the English demanded that the Irish grow only one type of potato, and a blight hit and destroyed them all! Now we on a vast scale grow only one type of corn, for fuel! Risky? History says so.</p>
<p>So stop blaming Unions, and each other, and just get down to fixing the problem. The problem lies in our Nations Capital, and we can fix it by replacing its members, one politician at a time!</p>
<p>Hozro</p>
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		<title>By: Jim - Utah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim - Utah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Gary - Phoenix --- Let me get this straight, you are complaining that you are broke and cannot think about retiring because you are non-union?  Give me a break, I am also 65 and have never thought about relying on anyone else for my retirement.  Pick yourself up, look in the mirror and see who&#039;s to blame for this picture! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Gary &#8211; Phoenix &#8212; Let me get this straight, you are complaining that you are broke and cannot think about retiring because you are non-union?  Give me a break, I am also 65 and have never thought about relying on anyone else for my retirement.  Pick yourself up, look in the mirror and see who&#039;s to blame for this picture!</p>
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