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  • Morning Bell: Outsourcing Your Tax Dollars

    During a July 7th Senate Environment and Public Works Committee hearing on the 1,500 page Waxman-Markey cap-and-trade legislation, Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) got Environmental Protection Agency administrator Lisa Jackson to admit that “U.S. action alone will not impact CO2 levels.”  This is 100% consistent with all the best science which shows that the carbon reductions under Waxman-Markey will not affect global temperatures in any material way. For example a recent study of cap-and-trade by MIT concluded:

    The different U.S. policies have relatively small effects on the CO2 concentration if other regions do not follow the U.S. lead…The Developed Only scenario cuts only about 0.5 °C of the warming from the reference, again illustrating the importance of developing country participation.

    As we have asked before, “So how is that ‘developing country participation’ going?” Well, just this week ministers from 10 African countries renewed their intent to demand billions of dollars in aid before they sign any climate agreement and both China and India have also made it crystal clear that they require billions in aid to help finance carbon-reducing projects before they agree to reduce their emissions.

    So where are all these billions of dollars going to come from? You, of course. A recently leaked document from the G20 Climate Finance Experts Group refers to “carbon market finance,” as a major source of the “hundreds of billions of dollars per year” delivered to the rest of the world by the U.S. and the other wealthier nations. So what is “carbon market finance?” It’s what Waxman-Markey proponents call cap and trade even though, in reality, all it is a huge new energy tax.

    But the story gets even better. Remember all those EPA and CBO estimates purporting to show how little the Waxman-Markey energy tax would hurt consumers? Well, besides the fact that they all ignored the cost of lost GDP from higher energy taxes, the CBO and EPA also assumed that Waxman-Markey would rebate all of its tax proceeds back to consumers. For example, the CBO estimates Waxman-Markey would raise taxes on Americans by $872.8 billion between 2010-2019 but then also assumes that the federal government will immediately turn around and spend $863.8 billion.

    In other words, the left in Congress has already spent 100.3% percent of the “carbon market finance” revenues raised. And not a single penny of it has yet been allocated to India, China, and the other developing countries that are demanding cash payments from us before they lift a finger to reduce carbon emissions.

    As our economy struggles to recover, our leaders should be working to lower our energy costs and develop our own natural resources, not enacting complex regulatory schemes that will crush our economy and send our hard-earned money overseas.

    Quick Hits:

    • Rep. Betsy Markey (D-CO) admitted to constituents Wednesday that some people, including Medicare recipients, will have to give up some current benefits under Obamacare.
    • Despite three decades of support from the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops for universal health insurance, some conference leaders have concluded Obamacare will pay for abortions and worry rationing will penalize the chronically ill.
    • According to Rasmussen Reports, cratering support for Obamacare has leveled off over the past two weeks with only 43% of voters favoring the plan with 54% opposed.
    • According to a new poll by The Economist, only 24% of Americans believe President Obama’s stimulus plan is working and only 9% think the plan will eventually work.
    • Toyota’s decision to officially close its Fremont, California plant next March means the Golden State’s toxic business environment will have killed its last auto plant in the state.
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    37 Responses to Morning Bell: Outsourcing Your Tax Dollars

    1. J.C. Hughes, Texas says:

      This whole topic again is misdirected federal governance. To even debate the issue of CO2 reduction gives credibility to a flawed program. It's basically extortion by ideologue elitists. But then again, leftist are all about politicized perceptions and not science.

    2. leslie dunn says:

      what about the smoke rising from all of the cash for clunkers cars that are being destroyed, what impact is that having on the atmosphere, why hasn't anyone said anything about it? I saw one of the cars being destroyed by having liquid glass poured into the engine and the engine run until it died, or freezes, or whatever engines do and the amount of smoke was unbelievable!

    3. jim toledo says:

      How can such smart people, us, even think for a second that there is any credibility in this global warming, cap and trade fiasco? The hypocracy about carbon foot prints is simply another way to levy taxes and for somebody to feel good about trying to save the planet. We can't stop earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, in some cases forest firesw, or volcanoes, each of these produce effects greater than any man made emissions. As long as emotions rule rather than common sense and the laws of nature, we're always going to be fighting an uphill battle to debunk the myths of carbon foot printing. It's still all about the money.

    4. Joan Sarasota FL. says:

      People are still blind to one fact. Every single thing that Obama and his thugs has done and are proposing to do is destoying the country. If the people we sent to washington were true Americans instead of being Dems or Rep. they would demand answers as a group. Because if they don't do it soon our United States will go down in defeat to a much of goons just like Germany under Hitler. God help us all.

    5. Wayne Ker says:

      The 2010 elections can't come soon enough.

      I only pray passing legislation that can't be undone is limited before those who are destroying our way of life get voted out.

    6. Pamela Colorado says:

      On the issue of global warming and tax and trade…..

      Why don't these people put their money where their mouths are and START a business –number one to see if they could actually run one that makes all the products for helping people save money on their energy etc. The problem IS back in the late 60's early 70's I was very interested in putting solar panels on our home. Did all the checking etc and in the end WE COULDN'T AFFORD THEM. Even now, no one can really afford them.

      Once again, in my opinion we have a Democratic group of politicians who don't care about the REAL PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. All of us who work our buns off to make it–will never see retirement now thanks to them. These people are for THEIR POCKET BOOKS. As long as it doesn't take away from them–it should work. All the b.s. that is being slung out there about the same stuff back in the 60's, 70's and 80's.

      Where are the companies that would have produced all this good stuff for people?

      Cap and trade is a JOKE on the hard, honest working people that are just trying to do better for them and their families…………and once again, the regular guy gets stabbed in the back by POLITICIANS..

      SAD

      These people don't THINK . THEY PLOT against the AMERICAN PEOPLE…….for votes from those that sit on their duffs and DO NOTHING BUT SUCK AIR AND MONEY FROM ALL OF US WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK.

      That's all the reason behind the push for healthcare for these free loaders…….especially illegals. Send THEM back. No more free citzenship for their babies born here…..

      CLOSE OUR BORDERS AND PROTECT THIS COUNTRY.

      WHY DOESN'T WASHINGTON DO THEIR REAL JOB—WHICH IS PROTECTING THE REAL CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.

    7. Dean- Texas/Alaska says:

      "Cry Havoc!" Some people are becoming alarmed, others are saying, you are listening to Conservative News, and believing all the lies and fear mongering, "what are you so afraid of?" I say, "the boots in the night that comes with despots."

    8. Richard Cancemi, Arl says:

      All the varied efforts of Obama and his "Progressives",from the stimulus bill, to the bail-outs, to Socialized medicine , to cap and trade(tax), are meant for only one purpose, to undermine and wreck this Country.

      While America "sleeps" they are infesting our society with groups like Americore, Acorn, Apollo, et al, plus the formation of a Civilian Security Force to be in place when they try to effect a silent coup. (Remember the pictures of the Taliban's Security Force" going around beating anyone they felt was not conforming to Taliban ways?)

      They want their plans for a "Brave New World" for us to live,(be enslaved)in. They are relentless! They are going full speed ahead. To hell with the other half, or more, of the Country that wants to be AMERICAN!

      Our "non-progressive" politicians lolly-gaggle but offer no real resistance. No one makes the effort to use the Constitution to stop this transformational take-over. No one really challenges the Leftists. There have been no objections to Obama's "Politburo" czars- a collection of radicals answerable to and serving only Obama and those who control him.

      The Apollo group wrote the Stimulus Bill which Congress didn't read but meekly signed! No one knows what group put together the Obamanation of a Health care Bill. Yet the obedient sycophants, most of whom haven't read the dire implications hidden in the wordage, are hawking it to the public through newspapers, television and the internet and on the floors of Congress.

      The FCC is now headed by another radical czar who wants to stifle free speech. Look at all the appointments that have been made. America is being wrapped in a web of deceit and treachery. The "leftist spider" Is dissolving and sucking dry the inner substance of what America was, is, and should be. As President George Bush, Sr. said: "This cannot stand"!

      Thank God for the grass roots people who are standing tall in the face of brutal opposition and making themselves heard. Just read the hatred that spews forth in the "Progressive" media and internet sites like "The Huffington Post" and "Gawker" for example. It makes one sick to read the hate-filled glee with which they write when bashing America

      and Conservatism.

      Better Americansthan they will ever be have died to defend, protect and preserve our Country and its Constitution and now these so-called "Liberal-Progressives" willingly or unwittingly are helping to tear down America.

    9. Richard Cancemi, Arl says:

      All the varied efforts of Obama and his "Progressives",from the stimulus bill, to the bail-outs, to Socialized medicine , to cap and trade(tax), are meant for only one purpose, to undermine and wreck this Country.

      While America "sleeps" they are infesting our society with groups like Americore, Acorn, Apollo, et al, plus the formation of a Civilian Security Force to be in place when they try to effect a silent coup. (Remember the pictures of the Taliban's Security Force" going around beating anyone they felt was not conforming to Taliban ways?)

      They want their plans for a "Brave New World" for us to live,(be enslaved)in. They are relentless! They are going full speed ahead. To hell with the other half, or more, of the Country that wants to be AMERICAN!

      Our "non-progressive" politicians lolly-gaggle but offer no real resistance. No one makes the effort to use the Constitution to stop this transformational take-over. No one really challenges the Leftists. There have been no objections to Obama's "Politburo" czars- a collection of radicals answerable to and serving only Obama and those who control him.

      The Apollo group wrote the Stimulus Bill which Congress didn't read but meekly signed! No one knows what group put together the Obamanation of a Health care Bill. Yet the obedient sycophants, most of whom haven't read the dire implications hidden in the wordage, are hawking it to the public through newspapers, television and the internet and on the floors of Congress.

      The FCC is now headed by another radical czar who wants to stifle free speech. Look at all the appointments that have been made. America is being wrapped in a web of deceit and treachery. The "leftist spider" Is dissolving and sucking dry the inner substance of what America was, is, and should be. As President George Bush, Sr. said: "This cannot stand"!

      Thank God for the grass roots people who are standing tall in the face of brutal opposition and making themselves heard. Just read the hatred that spews forth to try to discredit them in the "Progressive" media and internet sites like "The Huffington Post" and "Gawker" for example. It makes one sick to read the hate-filled glee with which they write when bashing America

      and Conservatism.

      Better Americans than they will ever be have died to defend, protect and preserve our Country and its Constitution and now these so-called "Liberal-Progressives" willingly or unwittingly are helping to tear down America.

    10. John, Arizona says:

      Joan and Wayne!! Beware what history tells us. What is the percent of congress-people who get re-elected? It is out of sight, and only with some strong grass roots support and efforts will we be able to rid ourselves of the incompetents we have in congress.

      It's time we elect people who go to congress to represent the people, instead of electing people who go to congress to get re-elected.

    11. cc west virginia says:

      Why spend billions for 2 countries to follow the Cap N Trade bill when the rest are not interested. If we can't do it alone than to bad…I am so tired of the Dems… spending and spending monies that we don't have and China owns us anyway… Why pay them more to begin with. They need to get rid of the Green Czar who is an X-convictand a professed communist(which he has never denounced) How many more in your close circle Mr President???? You seem to be surrounded with Thiefs and Communist Community Organizers!!!! and paying all of them from our tax dollars. America start asking Questions and get rid of this rif raft before it takes over our country and freedom. We need Cap N Trade or the Green Czar like we need a hole in the head!!! America get a spine and stand up for our FREEDOM that so many men and women have put their lives on the line for… Praise God we can do it!! And don't let the Dems shove a Health Care Bill down our throats just because they are going to change the name to the Ted Kennedy Bill of Health. There has been to much tragedy in the Kennedy family already don't let this farce sit on their shoulders as well. I pray that the Holy Spirit will comfort the Kennedy family and watch over them at this time… Please don't let his name be rememberes for something that needs a bunch of change before even thinking of being passed. I don't believe in my heart that Ted Kennedy wanted Government run health care…..

    12. diane Washington, DC says:

      Just because other countries are not making an effort is actually a red herring. The US should still do all it can to reduce emissions and reduce demand. It is childish to say just because they are not going to flush the toilet, I am not going to flush it either and I'm going to let it overflow and make a mess.

    13. Albert Segalla, Copp says:

      Surprised at MIT keeping the myth going that CO2 causes global warming, while the historical facts show rising CO2 levels follow increases in CO2! Association, yes – cause, no.

      Also, since the record shows there has been no global warming in 13 years, the whole issue seems mute.

      The Emperor is naked! Time to say so.

    14. F. Swemson says:

      Everyone complains about the weather, but only the Democrats try to legislate it.

      (I read that somewhere but can't remember where)

      For those who don't yet fully understand what insanity this is, here's a link to a brief interview of an Australian scientist named Bob Carter, who gives the best explanation of the Global Warming theory that I've seen:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgaeyMa3jyU

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    16. Lynn B. DeSpain says:

      More taxation without representation, nor facts!

      Hozro

    17. Lee-White Tanks AZ says:

      What frosts my tush more than anything is the pious mutterings of such as MIT about the relative CO2 contributions that might occur based on US legislation and decisions by such as China and India.

      It is totally irrelevant. CO2 and other Carbon based so-called greenhouse gases contribute less than 1% of any possible temperature effect on our atmospheric envelope when compared to the effects of Water Vapor. And, as seems to be all to often ignored, is the Grandaddy of all contributers to Climate Change (aka Global Warming) THE SUN!

      This entire "demonetization" of CO2 is a farce and a monumental SCAM. It is a criminal conspiracy to remove vast amounts of "treasure" from the US taxpayer's pockets and to line those of such "scum buckets" as ALGORE and his minions. This, along with monies to petty tyrants and collosal criminal enterprises such as the PRC.

      The truly sad fact is that even our President and our POTUS wanna-be, Senator McCrook buy into this FRAUD.

      I really think that if we ever get our hands back on our government that RICO statutes should be looked into as to their applicability to convict any number of our so-called Representatives.

      One thing I am more than glad to see is the wonderful job so many of you are doing at the Town Hall meetings. This really goes to the heart of one of the questions I ask over and over again:

      "Mr and Mrs America when was the last time you felt represented"

      PC is Thought Control

      LEE

    18. Kate Moran, New York says:

      As usual the solutions to the problems are so much simpler than the current administration is letting us to believe. Keep up the good work.

    19. David Bowdle, Texas says:

      The cap and trade bill is a scam based on a hoax. Over 31,000 scientists signed a petition calling it a hoax. See http://www.petitionproject.org

      So we're going to give our international competitors $860 billion to fix something that isn't broke???

      In fact, carbon dioxide "has many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth" according to the 31,000 scientists.

    20. Pamela Colorado says:

      Just reading all above from all of you out there and it's great to see what others are saying.

      Just talked to someone who told me about this bill someone wants to pass to SILENCE all of us and the radio shows that give us the truth and everyone else out there that gives us the truth. They also told me about how NBC AND CBS are NOT ALLOWING commericials for NO OBAMA CARE……sad—once again people and company's being bought off by these out of control people.

      Who knew there were this many lawyers and screw balls in the government that HATED THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA in the name of power for them….

      I pray every day that God above can keep us free and some how rid our government of these people. But, maybe it was meant to be so that EVERYONE would wake up and realize how good we had it before this batch got there and including a lot of republicians that are there for THEIR SIX FIGURE RETIREMENT PACKAGES NOT THE PEOPLE OF THIS AMERICA.

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    22. Ron, Derry NH says:

      It should be painfully obvious by now that what democrats are doing is inventing any way possible to extort monetary value from the American system to line their pockets and give economic funding to their agenda; NOT AMERICAS, but their agenda.

      We have for 40 years been under siege by the college educated, diploma holding, got no where to go but into government type looking to create themselves a position with a retirement paid for by some one elses productivity.

      Better known as 20th century political parasites.

      every year more and more graduated from schools of government force themselves onto our backs as some sort of tumor, and try to invent a cash flow into their parties satchel of coercion and payola.

      The Democrats have turned into a monstrously hungry beast set to devour our every essence of survival to fill their gut with economic sustenance ready to regurgitate it as a social offering later to some constituency in need of its life corrupting cud.

      I have never seen the parasitic beast in such a fervor and so hungry as now, with such a ferocious need to consume our every ability to succeed, that its becoming so fat and powerful it would seem it wants to suffocate its host.

      Obots have become totally fixated on taking from America to feed their machine, that I fear the machinery can't be fed enough to stops its gluttony to devour all American freedom and commerce and subjugate it under its oppressive nightmarish grip.

    23. Dave, Laguna Niguel, says:

      I am just wondering how long the AMERICAN PEOPLE are going to put up with so many LIBERAL/SOCIALIST LIES, destroying the middle class(which is their goal and do not doubt it for a minute as history will prove this is so), by spending ALL OUR MONEY, destroying American businesses thereby eliminating MILLIONS OF JOBS. Clinton started the ball rolling with his demonization of American Corporations, and GW Bush was a CLUELESS, WORTHLESS IDIOT(another LIBERAL who was hated by liberals…go figure!) Only a strong, determined CONSERVATIVE Leader will pull this country out of this death spiral we are in. Maybe even a MILITARY TAKEOVER(before they are themselves destroyed!)with the arrest of all these criminals who will be dispersed in their socialist country of choice…after the money they stole from us is returned to the US treasury! This crop of DEMONCRATS believes the US TREASURY is their own personal SPENDING ACCOUNT! I have been disabled recently and have had the time to actually PAY ATTENTION to whats happening! I personally would love for OBAMA to be a successful president, however, I have seen combat, seen what the communists do, seen socialist countries and the misery they impart on their citizens, and OBAMA is headed in the WRONG DIRECTION! If he followed REAGAN, got rid of all the socialists, opened up all of our markets and allowed AMERICANS to be AMERICANS, he would be one of the most loved presidents in history. And he is supposed to be so SMART? So far he has proven history means nothing to him, and it means everything to us!History teaches us we refuse to learn from history.

    24. Dean- Texas/Alaska says:

      I think that anybody with any intellect whatsoever knows that none of this is about recovering the economy, health care, or concern for "global" warming. It is about a Marxist takeover of America and the complete destruction of the Constitution.

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    26. Bobbie Jay says:

      All these government made crisis has to stop, asap. The bribery with our money. Probably "psst, want to make America a third world country? Just go along with us and the global warming scam. We'll pay you top dollar, all American hard earned money."

      There's talk of replicating the fidel and castro governments, suggested by some Nancy walson (?) lady. Well, what better way to murder the people of a nation then taking control of their health care! Obama and his like are terrorists of many colors! Financial, economical, environmental, energy etc. It's all terrorism.

      Who is protecting us? We are in grave danger!

    27. Bobbie Jay says:

      Did I say Fidel and castro? I'm still laughing. I meant chavez and castro.

    28. Pete, Maui says:

      To Diane, Washington DC,

      That's lovely you want to make a symbolic gesture to show how morally superior were are. Are you willing to live in a 3rd world country for the privilege?

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    30. Connie Steel-Tillman says:

      And again, it is demanded that the United States, and other free enterprise countries give these billions of dollars to Africa, China and India, before they do anything. The high tax base of doing buiness in the US has already sent manufacturing jobs, IT jobs and thousands of other jobs formally held by Americans to these countries and now they want billions from us to clean up their "carbon footprints". Give us a break! When is this administration going to get a clue and realize that we – the taxpayers and citizens of this country – have had enough of their blowing smoke!

    31. Mad-andy, Missouri says:

      Am I insane?

      Are we all living in a madhouse where the doctors are crazier than the patients?

      What is it going to take to put a stop to this asinine behavior?

    32. john smith says:

      The Marxist State has won and it will take a (1) bloody revolution to dislodge it. (2) The disolution of the Democrat (not Democratic) Party as punishment for Marxist activity will have to be enforced(3) All Federal Law hatched under this administration will have to be rolled back since this President's Birth Papers might not be in order. IfObama is an illegally elected President then all under him is also illegal.

    33. Scott A. Mandia says:

      Albert,

      The "CO2 lags not leads temperature change" is not a valid argument in the modern day global warming. Historic values of CO2 were caused by very slow, natural processes and today's increases are dominated by human emissions. Please see the following site for an explanation:
      http://scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2006/02/co2

      Why would you pick one scientist's interview over the massive amount of peer-reviewed scientists that state that AGW is for real.

      http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/global_warmin

      Historian of science, Naomi Oreskes of UC San Diego, states "Scientific knowledge is the intellectual and social consensus of affiliated experts based on the weight of available empirical evidence, and evaluated according to accepted methodologies.  If we feel that a policy question deserves to be informed by scientific knowledge, then we have no choice but to ask, what is the consensus of experts on this matter." 

      Climate change has been extensively researched and the overwhelming majority of climate scientists agree that the observed modern day global warming is unprecedented and is very likely caused by humans. Although there is little serious debate between climate experts, many in the general public still think that these scientists are unsure about climate change and the role that humans have played in modern day global warming.  The Website above summarizes some of the key research that has led scientists to their overwhelming consensus while also addressing some of the unfounded claims by climate change skeptics and denialists.

      The only plausible explanation is that today's warming is primarily due to human activities.  The increase in greenhouse emissions can easily account for this warming.  There is robust evidence for the man-made global warming.  There are no other known sources of warming that can explain the observed modern climate change.  People that claim there is no warming or that the warming is not caused by humans have offered no credible alternate hypotheses.  Yes, these folks make claims but none of the claims has stood up to scientific scrutiny. Because I see/hear much disinformation from well-intentioned folks, I feel it is my duty to try to educate people on this very important matter. Unfortunately, it is an uphill battle because most of the real science is discussed in hard-to-read scientific journals and most of the bad science is easily accessible on Web pages, blogs, and other forms of mass media.  Worse, there are political organizations such as The Heartland Institute that present themselves as scientific organizations but these organizations are directly and indirectly funded by the fossil fuel industry and others that stand to lose if greenhouse gas emissions are reduced.

      It is fine to be skeptical, but it is never fine to be a denialist.  A skeptic is willing to hear both sides and is honest with his assessment of the information.  A denialist blindly accepts everything that supports his opinion and immediately discards everything that does not.  Carefully read my Global Warming site with an honest, open mind.  Then weigh what I am discussing with what you have heard and where/who you have heard it from.

      There has been no global cooling. See my page at:
      http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/global_warmin… for a thorough explanation of why the denialists keep talking about global cooling.

      F. Swemson,

      Bob Carter is a notorious climate denialist supported by the fossil fuel industry. In fact, his latest paper has been thoroughly smashed as shoddy science. See: http://tamino.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/old-news/

    34. Roger S., Ma. says:

      F.Swemson: Great link to the Youtube interview of Aussie scientist Bob Carter. Thanks, a "must"!!!!

      Beyond that, all I can do is quote myself out of some recent posts, among which the blog by David Kreutzer:

      “…a litany of proposals for stripping financial sovereignty from … well-functioning economies for transfer to … the inept and kleptocratic ["brave new world elite" who then] get access to the wealth they prevent their own citizens from producing … [and, could never have produced themselves]” !!! BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO, HF !!! [mine]

      In some posts of the last few days I expressed similar thoughts without having enough facts to come up with your conclusion. Reading the two together, however, makes even better sense:

      “There is no other way to explain this particularly mad combination of Junk-Science coupled to Junk-Economics engaged to Junk-Politics, except for maybe invoking Freudian psychology.” Now it’s clear there is, and they’re managing to do the “impossible” and pervert even the “Freudian psychology.” !!! Again, Bravo Zulu HF !!!

      One more: “I prefer to call this bill “Taxman-Snarkey”, in honor of the only thing it is really set to accomplish: Tax the “bejeesus” out of ordinary Americans to feed another collection of “snarks” lining up to practice (b/p)ig-time “lobby-politics as usual”. It needs to be stopped with as much, if not greater, urgency than that unsavory HR3200. In fact, I’m beginning to worry that HR3200 was just the intended diversion to keep the public from becoming really untethered about this monstrosity.”

      You’ve enlightened me that not only was I on the right track, but that future “Snark-Hunting” will have to be global. I can only add, “Good Luck and Good Hunting”! And, "beware of 'Boojums'"! — It IS HIGH time, NOW, to really get the public “Frumious” about this monster, or it will REALLY be TOO LATE!!!

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    36. Chris, Edmond OK says:

      U.S. taxpayers already owe China billions of dollars in interest alone from government loans. And we're talking about giving them "billions in aid to help finance carbon-reducing projects before they agree to reduce their emissions?" Are you kidding me? We are not a nation of wealth anymore, we're a nation of debt. We have borrowed hundreds of billions of dollars from China as it is. There is no logic here.

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