Just another way we Americans are being quietly observed!

You've got to love the "brass" the supporters of this program have! Puts a used-car (no offense to used-car) salesperson to shame. Let's analyize.

1. The program's been a great success.

2. It's really stimulating the economy.

3. Look at the smog we will prevent.

4. It will help make us more energy efficient.

In realty.

1. Yes, anytime, you give a substantial credit/money to someone, most will take it. Forget that we all have to pay for this borrowed money.

And, forget that many people, now have a nice car payment, with an uncertain national and local economic future ahead.

2. Yes, if the dealers can ever get their money back it will stimulate their business. And, it will take some form of job and energy to crush the cars. And, someone will benefit from the final disposal process. But, once the program ends how many people are going to rush to the showroom? Of course, maybe it won't end. I heard that a green (no other color is an option)program for washers and dryers may be next.

3. I would hate to mathematically figure out what the pollution reduction nation-wide will be for the absence of 250,000 vehicles. And, since the air we breath is global, my guess is that China or India will nullify any benefit in about 10 minutes of manufacturing production.

4. The energy efficiency will be dramatic. Instead of a vehicle using 14 mi per gal, now you can own a new one getting 19 mi per gal.

Instead of drilling for huge (known) oil and gas reserves right off the coast(s) of the US of A – let's give a few billion to help Brazil drill in a huge newly-found deposit (off-shore).

Funny how Brazil, the much bally-hooed environmentally-sound beacon of responsible green nations, sure wants to get at the nasty fossil fuel. Money tends to do that – ask Mr. S.

Well folks, don't despair. We really did not spend much on the clunker program. 3 billion divided by 300 million comes out to only $10 per person plus interest.

Join the Movement before its too late.

God Bless America

–Anyone do an accounting of alone the "environmental impact cost" of 1) destroying the resulting junk before its time, 2) destruction of the remainder of the manufacturing energy inherent in the clunker, and 3) the impact of creating the new vehicle to replace it, plus 4) the time-value opportunity cost of using up the new vehicle sooner than it would be used up had it been bought later? That's just the environmental impact, since that's what the left is so crap&fade'ed about.

–My suggestion: On the premise that the real clunkers, aka "clunkerheads", reside in D.C., let's create a new program: They each get a blank check from the Government to fill in any amount they wish based on the only stipulation that once they cash it they must go away forever. Doesn't matter what amount they insert. Anything is cheaper than having them there.