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	<title>Comments on: Morning Bell: The Left&#8217;s War On The CIA</title>
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		<title>By: Are Intelligence Personnel Empowered to Employ Their Ingenuity and Resourcefulness to Connect The Dots? &#171; A Nation ADrift-Why?</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/08/25/morning-bell-the-lefts-war-on-the-cia/#comment-81660</link>
		<dc:creator>Are Intelligence Personnel Empowered to Employ Their Ingenuity and Resourcefulness to Connect The Dots? &#171; A Nation ADrift-Why?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And from the day he stepped into office, President Obama’s actions have done nothing but kill the initiative and morale of our intelligence employees. From day one, he made it clear that he believes the war on terror is a civilian criminal justice problem to be managed, and not a war to be won. That is why he took the responsibility for interrogating detainees from the CIA and gave it to the FBI. That is why he has failed to seek the renewal of key investigatory authorities authorized under the USA Patriot Act, instead settling for a six-month extension tacked on to the Defense appropriations bill. It is why instead of promising victory in Afghanistan, he sent fewer troops than were required and gave al Qaeda a set date for our withdrawal. It is why he has failed to approach Congress with legislation establishing a legal framework for handling terrorism detainees. It is why he is pushing for Khalid Sheik Mohammed to be prosecuted in civilian court despite his previous guilty plea in a military tribunal. And most demoralizing of all, President Obama has allowed Attorney General Eric Holder to re-investigate nearly a dozen CIA interr... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And from the day he stepped into office, President Obama’s actions have done nothing but kill the initiative and morale of our intelligence employees. From day one, he made it clear that he believes the war on terror is a civilian criminal justice problem to be managed, and not a war to be won. That is why he took the responsibility for interrogating detainees from the CIA and gave it to the FBI. That is why he has failed to seek the renewal of key investigatory authorities authorized under the USA Patriot Act, instead settling for a six-month extension tacked on to the Defense appropriations bill. It is why instead of promising victory in Afghanistan, he sent fewer troops than were required and gave al Qaeda a set date for our withdrawal. It is why he has failed to approach Congress with legislation establishing a legal framework for handling terrorism detainees. It is why he is pushing for Khalid Sheik Mohammed to be prosecuted in civilian court despite his previous guilty plea in a military tribunal. And most demoralizing of all, President Obama has allowed Attorney General Eric Holder to re-investigate nearly a dozen CIA interr&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: robert gundlach</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/08/25/morning-bell-the-lefts-war-on-the-cia/#comment-80007</link>
		<dc:creator>robert gundlach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can the people of the United states use a class action suit against the admin? </description>
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		<title>By: Dear Obama: Rein In Holder &#124; Conservative Principles Now</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/08/25/morning-bell-the-lefts-war-on-the-cia/#comment-56396</link>
		<dc:creator>Dear Obama: Rein In Holder &#124; Conservative Principles Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More on Holder&#8217;s War on the CIA, here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dear Obama: Rein In Holder &#124; Old People News</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/08/25/morning-bell-the-lefts-war-on-the-cia/#comment-56357</link>
		<dc:creator>Dear Obama: Rein In Holder &#124; Old People News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More on Holder&#8217;s War on the CIA, here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kim, Texas</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/08/25/morning-bell-the-lefts-war-on-the-cia/#comment-52322</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim, Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CIA agents are heroes, in the truest sense of the word, for keeping the nation safe, they deserve our gratitude and respect.  They perform work of which most people cannot begin to comprehend the importance.  They do this job willingly and have gotten It right, apparently, USA has had no further attacks for almost eight years.  Thank God and Thank CIA.  Waterboarding is torturous, I&#039;d imagine. but it is also a tactic that the military uses on our own troops, as training for special forces, Navy SEALS, Green berets, etc.  Does that bother any liberals out there?  Our soldiers wear uniforms with their names right on the chest, they are proud of the efforts they make in war or peace, in the name of freedom.  When the terrorists (islamic fundamentalists) take off their hoods while beheading their innocent victims, THEN we should investigate the CIA.  Holder could have appointed an &#039;investigator&#039; but choose to call him a &quot;prosecutor&quot; because Holder already knows exactly where he wants this sham to go... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CIA agents are heroes, in the truest sense of the word, for keeping the nation safe, they deserve our gratitude and respect.  They perform work of which most people cannot begin to comprehend the importance.  They do this job willingly and have gotten It right, apparently, USA has had no further attacks for almost eight years.  Thank God and Thank CIA.  Waterboarding is torturous, I&#039;d imagine. but it is also a tactic that the military uses on our own troops, as training for special forces, Navy SEALS, Green berets, etc.  Does that bother any liberals out there?  Our soldiers wear uniforms with their names right on the chest, they are proud of the efforts they make in war or peace, in the name of freedom.  When the terrorists (islamic fundamentalists) take off their hoods while beheading their innocent victims, THEN we should investigate the CIA.  Holder could have appointed an &#039;investigator&#039; but choose to call him a &quot;prosecutor&quot; because Holder already knows exactly where he wants this sham to go&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Linda, Memphis Tn</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/08/25/morning-bell-the-lefts-war-on-the-cia/#comment-51624</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda, Memphis Tn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand behind our CIA and any governement group 
that does what it takes to protect the USA &amp; the 
people of it. I&#039;m ashamed of my government that 
is running our country down that words can not 
say it all. All God , and a turn around is the 
only thing that will save us from becoming the 
worse country in the world. God Help Us </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand behind our CIA and any governement group</p>
<p>that does what it takes to protect the USA &amp; the</p>
<p>people of it. I&#039;m ashamed of my government that</p>
<p>is running our country down that words can not</p>
<p>say it all. All God , and a turn around is the</p>
<p>only thing that will save us from becoming the</p>
<p>worse country in the world. God Help Us</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Gilbert, Washin</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/08/25/morning-bell-the-lefts-war-on-the-cia/#comment-51599</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Gilbert, Washin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I hurt you badly enough and long enough, you will say or do anything to make me stop -- or you&#039;ll die.  That does not mean that any of what you say or do under those circumstances is truth.  Folks have been watching too much &quot;24&quot; out there.   
 
Torture is a way to extract something, but not necessarily truth.   
 
Waterboarding? Beyond the post WWII war crimes trials, the U.S. Army has even court-martialed it&#039;s own for this practice.  In January 1968, a photo appeared in a U.S. newpaper showing an American soldier supervising the waterboarding of a North Vietnamese soldier. The photo led to an investigation, and the soldier was court-martialed 2 months later.  It was torture then, and it&#039;s torture now.  The flag it&#039;s conducted under, or any sense of &quot;imminent danger&quot; does not make it less criminal.   
 
In the recent debacle following the attacks of 9/11, we allowed people who had no knowledge or experience with interrogations &quot;develop&quot; protocols based on techniques that our adversaries used to extract false confessions from captured U.S. military personnel.  If the techniques were used to force our people to tell untruths, why in the name of all that is holy would we expect that those same techniques would extract truth from anyone?  And if by chance they did yield truth, how would we tell the difference between the truth and a lie that was told just to make the pain stop? 
 
I&#039;m personally on the fence regarding the culpability of the interrogators who followed the criminal rules they were given.  On the other hand, those who went beyond those rules are clearly guilty of crimes.  What galls me is that we&#039;re still only looking into the actions of the &quot;Lindy England&#039;s.&quot;  If we still had the integrity of the nation that went to war against Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, we would look into those who crafted the rules and those who approved them, and we would hold them to criminal account for their actions - all the way up to and including the former Commander-In-Chief. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I hurt you badly enough and long enough, you will say or do anything to make me stop &#8212; or you&#039;ll die.  That does not mean that any of what you say or do under those circumstances is truth.  Folks have been watching too much &quot;24&quot; out there.  </p>
<p>Torture is a way to extract something, but not necessarily truth.  </p>
<p>Waterboarding? Beyond the post WWII war crimes trials, the U.S. Army has even court-martialed it&#039;s own for this practice.  In January 1968, a photo appeared in a U.S. newpaper showing an American soldier supervising the waterboarding of a North Vietnamese soldier. The photo led to an investigation, and the soldier was court-martialed 2 months later.  It was torture then, and it&#039;s torture now.  The flag it&#039;s conducted under, or any sense of &quot;imminent danger&quot; does not make it less criminal.  </p>
<p>In the recent debacle following the attacks of 9/11, we allowed people who had no knowledge or experience with interrogations &quot;develop&quot; protocols based on techniques that our adversaries used to extract false confessions from captured U.S. military personnel.  If the techniques were used to force our people to tell untruths, why in the name of all that is holy would we expect that those same techniques would extract truth from anyone?  And if by chance they did yield truth, how would we tell the difference between the truth and a lie that was told just to make the pain stop?</p>
<p>I&#039;m personally on the fence regarding the culpability of the interrogators who followed the criminal rules they were given.  On the other hand, those who went beyond those rules are clearly guilty of crimes.  What galls me is that we&#039;re still only looking into the actions of the &quot;Lindy England&#039;s.&quot;  If we still had the integrity of the nation that went to war against Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, we would look into those who crafted the rules and those who approved them, and we would hold them to criminal account for their actions &#8211; all the way up to and including the former Commander-In-Chief.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike, Arizona</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/08/25/morning-bell-the-lefts-war-on-the-cia/#comment-51362</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike, Arizona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Somerville I wouldn&#8217;t back the same crimes that the Nazis did if they were done in this country. I think that is an asinine statement to begin with. Even though I&#8217;m a hypocrite I can tell the difference in what the Nazis did and what Bush did. The so called torture that Bush used isn&#8217;t even close to what the Nazis did. If they had to use water boarding or threaten the 9/11 mastermind that his family would die if anything else happened in the USA I&#8217;m glad they did it. I just wonder since you are fighting so hard for the rights of the terrorists if you would be willing to have a bomb go off in your part of town because they didn&#8217;t get some info that could have stopped it.  
And yes, our party is out of power but with Obama&#8217;s poll numbers dropping everyday I suspect the big switch will start occurring in the 2010 elections and your party will be out of power for a good long time after the mess this president is creating. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Somerville I wouldn&rsquo;t back the same crimes that the Nazis did if they were done in this country. I think that is an asinine statement to begin with. Even though I&rsquo;m a hypocrite I can tell the difference in what the Nazis did and what Bush did. The so called torture that Bush used isn&rsquo;t even close to what the Nazis did. If they had to use water boarding or threaten the 9/11 mastermind that his family would die if anything else happened in the USA I&rsquo;m glad they did it. I just wonder since you are fighting so hard for the rights of the terrorists if you would be willing to have a bomb go off in your part of town because they didn&rsquo;t get some info that could have stopped it. </p>
<p>And yes, our party is out of power but with Obama&rsquo;s poll numbers dropping everyday I suspect the big switch will start occurring in the 2010 elections and your party will be out of power for a good long time after the mess this president is creating.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger S., Ma.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger S., Ma.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jeff, Somerville MA&quot;: Attorney General Holder has, so far, exposed no crimes at all. He may be trying to, but if you took a minute or two to review his performance in Senate hearings in May, you&#039;d find it fair to say he&#039;ll have a tough time of it. Beyond that, these so-called &quot;crimes&quot; were &quot;exposed&quot; before, and found without proof. Given that fact, the current &quot;shindig&quot; is a smoke screen for some other, shall we say &quot;action&quot;, from which the administration is trying to distract. 
 
-- You owe an apology to every commenter on this blog for, 1) forgetting that foreign terrorists attacked us on our own soil on 9/11 2001, and then only did we exercise our perfect right to &quot;visit&quot; their bases in Afghanistan to root them out, and 2) for forgetting that in Afghanistan our men were then attacked by informal and illegal enemy combatants who, except for their murderous designs upon us equivalent to the terrorists&#039;, had no reason whatever to engage us in combat, and 3)for equating this with the murderous Nazi terror visited by a whole country bent upon exterminating its neighbors --- as well as several 100,000 of its own citizens who had the &quot;wrong religion&quot;.  
 
--Not only is your comment an insult to every American, it is an insult of particular gravity to the memory of all those who have so far perished in this war on terror, not to mention an almost irreparable insult to their friends and family left grieving their loss. You owe them even more than an apology!  
 
--I think you also owe HF an apology for having abused their generously extended freedom to comment in order to &quot;publish&quot; your despicable drivel. Nowhere but in America would you have had such freedom and opportunity. Shame on you! 
 
--For myself, I wish you found yourself suddenly in Afghanistan or Iran instead of safe Somerville, and learned first hand their form of response to those who smear their patriots. They do use, and quite freely and without any guilt, some methods which I&#039;ll wager would make our much maligned operatives look like altar boys. Strangely, most of us here would probably be ready to risk our lives to rescue you, just because you&#039;re a fellow American. I can understand that, yet I would wonder what for! You may quote me! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Jeff, Somerville MA&quot;: Attorney General Holder has, so far, exposed no crimes at all. He may be trying to, but if you took a minute or two to review his performance in Senate hearings in May, you&#039;d find it fair to say he&#039;ll have a tough time of it. Beyond that, these so-called &quot;crimes&quot; were &quot;exposed&quot; before, and found without proof. Given that fact, the current &quot;shindig&quot; is a smoke screen for some other, shall we say &quot;action&quot;, from which the administration is trying to distract.</p>
<p>&#8211; You owe an apology to every commenter on this blog for, 1) forgetting that foreign terrorists attacked us on our own soil on 9/11 2001, and then only did we exercise our perfect right to &quot;visit&quot; their bases in Afghanistan to root them out, and 2) for forgetting that in Afghanistan our men were then attacked by informal and illegal enemy combatants who, except for their murderous designs upon us equivalent to the terrorists&#039;, had no reason whatever to engage us in combat, and 3)for equating this with the murderous Nazi terror visited by a whole country bent upon exterminating its neighbors &#8212; as well as several 100,000 of its own citizens who had the &quot;wrong religion&quot;. </p>
<p>&#8211;Not only is your comment an insult to every American, it is an insult of particular gravity to the memory of all those who have so far perished in this war on terror, not to mention an almost irreparable insult to their friends and family left grieving their loss. You owe them even more than an apology! </p>
<p>&#8211;I think you also owe HF an apology for having abused their generously extended freedom to comment in order to &quot;publish&quot; your despicable drivel. Nowhere but in America would you have had such freedom and opportunity. Shame on you!</p>
<p>&#8211;For myself, I wish you found yourself suddenly in Afghanistan or Iran instead of safe Somerville, and learned first hand their form of response to those who smear their patriots. They do use, and quite freely and without any guilt, some methods which I&#039;ll wager would make our much maligned operatives look like altar boys. Strangely, most of us here would probably be ready to risk our lives to rescue you, just because you&#039;re a fellow American. I can understand that, yet I would wonder what for! You may quote me!</p>
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		<title>By: Howard, IN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard, IN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff from MA What are you talking about????? 1st the A/G has exposed nothing, they are investigating!!!! 2nd what is the Bush Terror???? 3rd are you comparing Republicans to Nazis??? If you want to talk about hypocrites you should start looking to the left!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff from MA What are you talking about????? 1st the A/G has exposed nothing, they are investigating!!!! 2nd what is the Bush Terror???? 3rd are you comparing Republicans to Nazis??? If you want to talk about hypocrites you should start looking to the left!!!</p>
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