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  • Morning Bell: The Left's War On The CIA

    In June of 2008, while campaigning for the election of President Barack Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder promised the leftist American Constitutional Society: “We owe the American people a reckoning.” Yesterday, Holder escalated his “reckoning” campaign by appointing a prosecutor to re-investigate nearly a dozen CIA interrogators and contractors alleged to have abused detainees in 2002 and 2003. This is nothing more than an all out war on the CIA by the left at a time when the President desperately needs to shore up trust with his base in the face of his declining poll numbers.

    Already the White House is at pains to create the perception of distance between Holder’s announcement and President Obama’s wishes. Deputy press secretary Bill Burton told reporters from Martha’s Vineyard yesterday: “ultimately, the decisions on who is investigated and who is prosecuted are up to the attorney general. . . . The president thinks that Eric Holder, who he appointed as a very independent attorney general, should make those decisions.” But make no mistake. Holder works for Obama. Holder’s priorities are by definition Obama’s priorities. And the facts make it clear that this “new” investigation is nothing more than a political witch hunt:

    No New Information: Depending on where you get your news you may hear today that Holder’s decision is based on “new details” about the CIA interrogation program. This is false. While the release of the 2004 CIA inspector general report has exposed some new information to the public, Holder read the report months ago. Both the Department of Justice and the leadership of the Congressional intelligence committees have had the full report since 2004, and the full committees have had the report since 2006. The only thing that has changed since both DOJ and Congress received the full report is the 2008 presidential election.

    Career Justice Lawyers Already Investigated: Not only has the Department of Justice been in possession of CIA IG report since 2004, but the DOJ’s career, not political, prosecutors have already examined that document and other incidents from Iraq and Afghanistan for legal accountability. CIA Director, and former President Clinton Chief of Staff, Leon Panetta assured CIA employees yesterday that the DOJ’s career prosecutors “worked carefully and thoroughly, sometimes taking years to decide if prosecution was warranted or not. In one case, the Department obtained a criminal conviction of a CIA contractor. In other instances, after Justice chose not to pursue action in court, the Agency took disciplinary steps of its own.”

    Program Worked: From the 2004 CIA IG report: “The detention of terrorists has prevented them from engaging in further terrorist activity, and their interrogation has provided intelligence that has enabled the identification and apprehension of other terrorists, warned of terrorists plots planned for the United States and around the world, and supported articles frequently used in the finished intelligence publications for senior policymakers and war fighters. In this regard, there is no doubt that the Program has been effective.”

    A Politically Motivated Re-Investigation Can Only Harm National Security: In yesterday’s Washington Post, CIA General Counsel under the Clinton administration Jeffrey Smith explains how Holder’s reopened investigation harms our national security: “Prosecutions would set the dangerous precedent that criminal law can be used to settle policy differences at the expense of career officers. … Prosecuting CIA officers risks chilling current intelligence operations. … their colleagues will become reluctant to take risks. What confidence will they have when their senior officers say not to worry, “this has been authorized by the president and approved by Justice”? … Prosecutions could deter cooperation with other nations. It is critical that we have the close cooperation of intelligence services around the world. … The key to this cooperation is the ability of the United States to be a reliable partner and keep secrets. Prosecuting CIA officers undermines that essential element of successful intelligence liaison.”

    New Interrogation Guidelines Inadequate To Protect Nation: Yesterday the Obama administration also announced that their own new program for future interrogations would be controlled by the Army Field Manual. A senior administration official tells Politico, “The practices and techniques within the Army Field Manual are currently used by law enforcement and provide adequate and effective means of conducting such interrogations.” This is just not true. Across the country law enforcement official are allowed to lie to witnesses all the time in order to extract a confession. Under the Obama administration’s new guidelines we could only tell al Qaeda the truth.

    It is no accident that the United States has been free of al Qaeda attack since 9/11. The CIA played a vital role in that accomplishment. President Obama has repeatedly assured the American people he wants to “look forward, not back” on CIA interrogations. It is time he lived up to this promise.

    Quick Hits:

    • The Obama administration will continue the Bush administration’s practice of sending terrorism suspects to third countries for detention and interrogation.
    • President Obama will reappoint Ben Bernanke as his Federal Reserve Chief.
    • According to a new report, homeowners who fall behind on their mortgage payments have become much less likely to catch up again.
    • Only 17 of the 58 Democratic senators — less than a third — are holding town halls back home, according to an informal POLITICO survey of every Democratic office in Congress.
    • The Democratic National Committee and its “grassroots” arm, Organizing for America, are planning to hold more than 500 events between Wednesday and September 8th.
    Posted in Ongoing Priorities [slideshow_deploy]

    77 Responses to Morning Bell: The Left's War On The CIA

    1. NADIA CALDERON - TEX says:

      The people have elected a bunch of Democratic cowards that can't take the heat. Let alone get the work done on their own… they need to be in packs……….

    2. Michael Thomas - Mic says:

      The CIA is the left.

    3. Catriona Dempster says:

      This is part and parcel of an overall tendency for self-perpetuating elites to dominate the media and the people of the US.

      Obama, once again, has lied to us!

      Obama, Eric Holder and the rest of the sycophants are indeed a mob of smug, self serving, oozing sores on the butt of humanity!

      IMPEACH OBAMA!

    4. Ken Jarvis - Las Veg says:

      HF Spin – "The Left’s War On The CIA"

      NO!

      It is a QUEST FOR TRUTH.

    5. John Mulqueen, New R says:

      Atty. Gen. Holder's decision is not a left wing attack on the CIA. It is an overdue commitment to the rule of decency and the law which are supposed to be the bedrock foundation of the US. You could make an argument that the investigation is not prudent, and could punish only lower level CIA operatives, while letting Bush, Cheney and the members of their administration who should be in the dock off free and clear, but to call it an attack on the CIA is childish.

    6. Dennis A. Social Cir says:

      This nothing more than the dems plans to destroy this country, and we the American people are going to let them. I do not care what type of interrogation is used or has been used, just as long as this country remains safe. We can not bring these people up to our standards, the only way to get their attention is to make them believe they mean less to us than we do to them, and we all know we mean nothing. It is hard to believe that someone to swore to protect and defend this country is allowing this witch hunt. Those that conduct these type interrogations and investigations have bee hog tied and now can not do their job out of fear.

    7. James Smyth says:

      An administration that will prosecute those that protected us and refuses to go after thugs intimidating voters is fundamentally corrupt.

    8. Harry, Illinois says:

      "We owe the American People a reckoning" is a crock. So far, the left (especially MSNBC's OB 1 and Mad Dog) are continuously bashing Bush. It's as if there is nothing else to discuss on that program. I don't watch it, but, I do switch to it from time to time to see what they are reporting and low and behold the topic is GWB. My God, let it go. What is done is done. We have enough problems going forward without having to look back. If our field intelligence personnel have to wear kid gloves to get the job done because of political interference, then we might as well pull out from everywhere and let China figure it out since they got all of OUR money anyway.

      Button Down the Hatches as they say, the enemy will be coming and they arn't going to take any prisoners. Doesn't say much for our future as a country anymore, does it.

    9. Catriona Dempster says:

      THOSE OF YOU ON THE LEFT WHO CALL THIS A "QUEST FOR THE TRUTH" REALLY NEED TO GROW UP!

      WAR IS HELL! POINT BLANK, NO IF'S AND'S OR BUT'S ABOUT IT!

      YOU SIT THERE IN YOUR IVORY TOWERS DICTATING TO THOSE WHO TRY TO PROTECT YOU FROM HARM ON HOW THEY SHOULD DO IT! GIVE ME A BREAK! HAVE ANY OF YOU EVER FOUGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY? HAVE YOU EVER LOST A LOVED ONE WHO DIED PROTECTING YOUR RIGHTS?

      BUNCH OF BLOODY HYPOCRITES!

      WHILE OBAMA APOLOGISES FOR THIS COUNTRY TO THE REST OF THE WORLD….WHILE HE BACK PEDDLES OR FLAT OUT LIES EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH….WHILE HE SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH COMMUNISTS, RADICALS AND THIEVES….WHILE HE BURIES THIS COUNTRY IN DEBT AND CREATES MORE DEBT WITH EVERY DAY THAT PASSES….WHILE HE IS DETERMINED TO DESTROY THE CONSTITUTION AND ALL IT STANDS FOR…..WHILE ALL OF THIS OCCURS….YOU SPEAK OF THEIR QUEST FOR THE TRUTH!

      YOU SHOULD REMOVE YOUR HEAD FROM YOUR REAR END

      GET A CLUE!

      SHAME ON YOU!

    10. jim toledo says:

      Obama said during the campaign that he was against this kind of 'witch hunt'. So, another lie, another bit of misinformation and more wasted tax payer dollars on 'nothing new'. Where's the main stream media, why aren't they making some noise about these false accusations or at the least highlighting the truth about what is in the doceuments? It seems like the folks at the Hertiage Foundation have done an excellant job of sorting it out, now all they have to do is report the facts. Oh I forgot, they can't let this administration fail, they may not get to ask questions at the next Town Hall meeting.

    11. jim smith says:

      This ploy is a standard pre-packaged diversion from the lefty AG and his far left leader. They're attempting to use the CIA as some kind of straw man (a Nobama personal favorite, just like the "previous administration") to throw everyone off track, while they re-craft stealth, health care legislation. It's why we have "diabolical" in our dictionaries. The most consistent behavior this administration demonstrates is its unwavering worship of prevarication, and right from the top down. When analyzed thoroughly, the first word that comes to mind is "quadrupled". I believe they're having problems separating what they believe, what they want you to believe and what they can get away with. None are the same.

    12. Shawn, Ind. says:

      there are things done in our country that are probably best not know by the general public. if these things help keep my kids safe where they can play their little league game, they can go to a parade, they can bob for apples at the fair, they can dream to be an astronaut or president they can take a jet airplane ride,then i'm all for them. we have Americans being be-headed while alive and our guys are catching hell for a little water over the face to get information from people who want to destroy the privileges that have been given to us by patriots who have laid down their own lives so that we to can enjoy that slice of apple pie while watching the little league game!

    13. Richard Cancemi, Arl says:

      Every day in every way the far left Socialists work to undermine and destroy this Country, and they are succeeding!

      They hate what America IS, or has been, want to tear it down completely, and re-make it into a "1984" version of their "Brave New World".

      Too many Americans think it is inconceivable that America can fall. They resist those who are warning of the ultimate result of what the far Left has accomplished and continue to put into place. The Left uses Marxist tactics to take advantage of the gullibility of their ignorance and apathy. Words are used to conceal not reveal their true aims.

      "It is not the enemy from without that we have to fear but the enemy from within".

      America must succeed, not Obama!

    14. Charles LaBounty, Me says:

      Mr Ken Jarvis,

      I've read your postings several times.

      Other than saying "HF is wrong", could you give a complete thought backed up with information you deem pertinent?

      thank you

    15. curt L. Columbus, O says:

      We need a private citizen intelligence agency. Plus a privatized prosecution of terrorists where no one has even heard of the army field manual!

    16. Dale, Cincinnati says:

      The article missed one other change that has ocurred since both DOJ and Congress received the full report. Obama's poll numbers are in the toilet and sinking faster than a stinking piece of ______. He needs a distraction to get the public forget the stench of his rotting health care legislation. Please, someone flush….quick.

    17. Mayra Bato says:

      What insanity! What a joke. Terrorists decapitate our citizens and make sure its being filmed so that they can spread the message "how fair and politically correct they are"????

      We, however, are going to read them their Miranda rights, make sure they are not subjected to any undue pressure and discomfort?

      Let me think: This government is protecting WHAT and WHOM???

      We had better realize very quickly that there is a frontal assault on Judaeo-Christian Western Culture and Society across the globe and – very obvious to all of us -encouraged and supported by this deceitful, abominable administration.

      Check out WHAT is going here before it is way TOO LATE! WAKE UP!

    18. Paul Marino, Esq. - says:

      The current attack against the CIA and the substantial increase of funding of the ACLU is from individuals who do not want damaging information about them and their associates released now or in the future. Since before 2008, the CIA has been tracking the business practices of certain individuals who have much to hide….Remember, follow the money.

    19. Allan, Oregon says:

      Here we go again… more smoke and mirrors to deflect the publics attention away from the health debacle. No more Sarah Palin to sabotage so lets go after the Bush administation via the CIA.

    20. Lebo, florida says:

      Tis a sad time indeed. If anyone out there thinks anyone in the CIA is going to risk their Arse to accomplish any mission, they have clearly drank too much Obama coolaid.

      We, as a nation are going to get hammered badly and we have Obama and his Obama-Zombies to thank for it.

      Leon Panetta needs to do one of two things:

      1. Find some older, competent politically incorrect folks who remember how to do wet-ops and take care of the thorns in his side.

      2. Or, resign imediately and tell the Chosen one to pack-sand.

      Have a bloody great day!

      Lebo

    21. political jules, Tex says:

      This is not an attempt to satisfy their base because they have no longer have a base. The current administration has realized that they have zero chance at reelection. Their motive from here on out is to do as much damage as possible. Soros especially hates any and all people associated with the Bush administration and he is calling the shots to destroy them. This is Soros's baby and his MO. It is how he tried to destroy Palin with the frivolous law suits. His true target is Cheney, but they are disguising this as a CIA probe.

      I do not know how it can be done because the man is richer and more powerful than anyone in the world today, but Soros is the one that needs to be destroyed.

    22. Paul Schmidt, Boston says:

      You are talking about the President shoring up his base with the American voter? His base is not the American voter; he conned all those who voted for him. Anyone who would not agree that he is an all out socialist isn't awake. His base is the socialist money people not American citizens.

    23. Susan Pierce City MO says:

      Bottom line, both the democrates and republicans have failed the American People. Because they became so consumed with re-election,they stopped being public servants and became public leeches.

      In reference to the CIA, FBI and Military they are the only real heroes left in Society. We have to protect and back them. They will probably be the only ones fighting to protect Freedom in this country, along side everyday Americans. It is obvious neither obama or bush had the best interest of the American People. We know the CIA, FBI and Military would not hesitate to die for everyday Americans. As far as I am concerned, I won't hesitate to die to protect these heroes and our freedom!

    24. Jake Martinez, NM says:

      Question: Have Americans stopped having confidence in their government-why?

      My blog relates to a recently published New York Times Op-Ed article that is another great example of how Americans are being brainwashed into believing that anyone who disagrees with where this country is headed under this administration is either “nuts” or a “right-wing radical and/or psychopath” who should have his/her gun(s) taken away from them-You Decide:

      http://weroinnm.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/have-ame

      "Food For Thought"

      God Bless Our USA.

      Semper Fi!

      Jake

    25. Cloward Pivensucks, says:

      We the people owe BO a reckoning.

    26. Pamela Colorado says:

      This makes me sick to my stomach.

      When is enough, enough…. This administration is OUT OF CONTROL…

      When is main stream media going to WAKE UP AND REALIZE they are at risk as well as everyone else.

      This should NOT be happening.

      Susan's thoughts from Missouri are right on……

      American's take note——-wake up—–she's right. The career politicians that we have had need to be GONE… because they are the reason we are in this mess.!!!! Favor for favor.

      A MESS IT IS Where are the good guy's—–hey, John Wayne—-

      I am proud of Dick Cheney for standing up and talking and more of these past people need to speak up and tell the truth and make these out of control idiots in Washington accountable for what they are really trying to do.

      Just like the article today in the news about Gadhafi and wanting to come here to some estate in NewYork area—NO WAY IN H—…….OH MY GOSH—-this is what is wrong with this country and what all of us who work our buns off have NO IDEA ABOUT—and should keep these people from buying ANY PROPERTY HERE—and THEY DON'T PAY TAXES??????? What the hay—-WRONG…once again everyone around them is paying for their luxuary estates.

      NO WAY

      NO WAY

    27. Mike, Conyers, GA says:

      If only we all knew what went on in the world of "Black Ops" we would be better off, Right? No, There are things that take place in this world that benefit us as Americans that just should remain undercover,unknown. Just think of all of the CIA operators out there that were the real reason for the demise of the Soviet Union, did you know about them at the time? Of course you didn't and to all of them I am grateful, just as I am grateful for all the operators out there today, so deep in that just breathing puts their life in danger. So the saying " The ends justify the means" sometimes really is true.

    28. mackp says:

      The Left attacks the CIA in order to get everyone looking at the CIA to try and hide what their agenda. The agenda of turning us all into American Zombias of the socialist regim. Our governmemt the new mob.

      The Godfather *** Mr.Pinky Obama

      Captain *** Joey the fool Biden

      Lieutenant's *** Fancy Nancy/Dirty Harry

      Hitmen *** Czars of Nantuckit

      this criminal organization has to many gangster to name We need to fight and bring them up on charges under the (Reco Act)They all profit from their criminal acts,some do not even pay taxs what is the justice department waiting for? Oh I forgot they are part of the Obama Gang. More to come Semper Fi USMC

    29. Dave, Laguna Niguel, says:

      OK loony lefties! Decency means to you(and ONLY you): the FEELINGS of a known terrorist, who knows when and where a nuclear weapon will be exploded, is more important than the LIVES OF INNOCENT PEOPLE! YOU morons would just as soon see a few million people wiped off the planet…as long as its not you! And for the brain-dead left wing media, hey its SHOW TIME! MORE NEWS TO REPORT(as long as its not us!)! It is quite obvious, those on the left DO NOT CARE ABOUT PEOPLE!! Beware ANYONE who says spare the FEELINGS of a terrorist! These are the same people who want to coddle MURDERERS! Just what is up with THESE PEOPLE?!

    30. Ed H. /Colorado says:

      The CIA should refuse to cooperate with the Atty Gen'l on the basis of Obama's ineligibility to be president. Obama will be forced to back down. Of course, Obama won't reveal the information on his various papers.

    31. Roger S., Ma. says:

      –Ken, you're lost as ever: "A quest for truth"? You bet! That's what having an intel service is all about, but with a twist: We need to find out the truth as accurately as possible about our declared enemies', sometimes even friends' (when we suspect their plans may be injurious to our interests) plans, while withholding from them our own. With the exception of our allies, we do NOT OWE a single one of them the respect our laws would otherwise grant! Why not? Quite simply because they have sworn to exterminate those laws, and us to go with them, by any available means. Isn't that unfair? Quite. If that worries or bothers them, there's a simple remedy: Don't attack us! And, please don't be naive and think for even one split second that they didn't know it. Likely as not they thought they'd kill us all, and then it wouldn't matter because they could never be captive! Surprise !!!

      –John, "You could make an argument that the investigation is not prudent and could punish only lower level CIA operatives…", etc. PRECISELY, and that's what Conn's blog is all about. What level of performance will we be able to expect from our operatives after we've done that?!? If they're smart AND patriotic, they will only adopt methods even more secretive. They'll have to. But, if they're REALLY smart, they'll soon conclude they would be better off not doing any of this work at all. Then what?! The logical result will be even greater "budget savings": no CIA. Let's face it: spying is a nasty business whose very nature demands we leave most issues to the judgment of our operatives. Second-guessing this judgment months, even years, after an operation, especially in public, cannot but engender much distrust. Worse, it is likely to reveal too much to our enemies. If Mr. Holder and the DOJ want something worth investigating, let them investigate the "New Black Panthers'" alleged interference with voting, right here in the USA. Let them investigate ACORN some more. I'll wager they would have plenty to do!

      –So, as Dennis commented so well: "We can not bring these people [our enemies] up to our standards, the only way to get their attention is to make them believe…", etc. Unfortunately, that may be closer to the truth than any of us care to appreciate. It may not coincide with the far left views of "cultural relativity", "moral equivalence", or "alternative lifestyles", but it is the nature of warfare. Make no mistake, IT IS warfare. Our opponents know it and act accordingly, and our denial, or subordination to other concerns, of that fact only makes it easier for them. Why should any of us want to do that?

      –It bears repeating: Spying and counter-spying are not the most "open" endeavors. All manner of rules and laws get bent or broken in the process, mostly without our knowledge. That's the nature of this beast. Sure, we need to know what our intel services are up to, and we need to set and enforce some firm standards, and few would be against some basic standard(s) of "decency". Just the same, we shouldn't let too many of the "global world's" dislikes dictate these standards or intrude upon our management thereof. In part their occasional cries of outrage are due precisely to the relative openness of our society and our general willingness to uncover and sanction genuine abuses (say, Abu Ghraib). It even sometimes appears as though our own press were plenty "quick-triggered" to call our own fouls, and very laid-back when it comes to investigating our enemies'; this is also the nature of the beast: It's easier to get verifiable info out of Langley than out of Helmand Province or Tehran. In fact, if the rest of the world, especially our enemies, were as good at respecting human rights as we typically are, I believe it a fair case to make that they would not be our enemies in the first place, and we wouldn't be having this discussion about "hounding our own".

    32. Mad-andy, Missouri says:

      The white house will do whatever it can to divert attention from healthcare. Obama is the magician who wants you to look at his hot assistant while he stuff the rabbit down his pants to make it disappear.

      THIS ADMINISTRATION IS ABOUT CONTROL!

      If we let him get everything he wants, we are in trouble.

    33. Ben C, Ann Arbor says:

      In the spirit of "the quest for truth" I was not suprized when I learned that the two billion being sent to Brazil for their off short drilling project is actually going to the company for which George Soros is the major stockholder. QUEST FOR TRUTH: is this a fact and is the Obama administration "paying back" the political and financial capital to one of his major underwriters? Where is the transparency?

    34. Wallyblu, Zion, IL says:

      Once again the Democrats and their Socialist, Progressive and Liberal friends are using this Red Herring to discredit those who defend this country and make the Terrorists into poor misunderstood victums.

      When will we wise up.

    35. Dave, Laguna Niguel, says:

      Those of us in the middle(conservatives) want to thank the "left" for showing us who they really are: Economic MORONS unable to grasp the machinations of a thriving economy…they see money and they want it all so they can throw it away and then feel better about themselves, taking the money from the producers and giving it to the non-producers(because they have been taken advantage of dontchaknow!); electing an un-American, inexperienced "president" who claims EVERYTHING before him was BROKEN and now he is here to FIX EVERYTHING(HUH?! and he has NEVER even held a real JOB?!);FEELINGS DRIVEN LIES about global warming shuts down OIL/drilling/refining(and there is a never-ending supply of it), clean coal production(we have the world's largest coal reserves!), nuclear plant building(we have the best technology in the world and we are the ONLY COUNTRY NOT BUILDING!); lets just say MILLIONS OF JOBS ARE BEING LOST because of these idiots! Higher gas prices mean less money for other goods and services means those providers have less sales and need less people…are you people just freakin CRAZY or WHAT?!; coddling criminals dictates you will have MORE of them! LIKEWISE TERRORISTS!;EVERYBODY can not work for the government! The government HAS NO MONEY EXCEPT FOR WHAT THEY TAKE FROM PRODUCERS!;you want everyone in a union?! Unions KILL creativity and extra effort…why extend yourself when there is NO BENEFIT?! You will get a raise when everyone else does!IDIOT!; guns are ONLY FOR THE CRIMINALS!; the POLICE are the BAD GUYS!(HUH?!)IDIOTS! ;OUR MILITARY PERSONNEL are to be feared and suspected!(HUH?!) IDIOTS! We are being RULED BY IDIOTS! When does it end?

    36. Michael - New York N says:

      I am someone who was in the North Tower on 9/11, and witnessed the horror, and subsequently critized our government for NOT keeping us safe. I believe this administration's actions are impeachable offenses; these actions will bring down the very organizations that are keeping us safe; many Americans will die due to this leftist pandering. Here's an idea…" let's go get Bush again…we cannot pass socialized healthcare, so let's bring the country back to the Bush days". The big whale here is Cheney. The left are not americans and nor are they patriots, including most of this insane administration.

    37. icono1 says:

      This could lead to a very dangerous development for the safety of the American people if the intelligence community decides to 'lawyer up' and stop collecting intelligence.

    38. TREVOR MERCHANT, BRO says:

      SPMETIMES I WONDER WHY DO I EVEN BOTHER TO WRITE AND OR ADVOCATE ANYMORE AND OR LONGER EVEN THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION HAS TIME AND TIME AGAIN DENY ME FREE SPEECH RIGHTS TO ECHO AND OR DOCUMENT KNOWLEDGE THAT IS TRUTHFULL LEADING TO EMPOWERMENT . MORE SO AS THESE TRUTHFULL KNOWLEDGE PERTAINS TO THE CURRENT BARACK OBAMA ADMINISTRATION . AND AS TO THE DANGEROUS AND DESTRUCTIVE POLICIES THAT THEY ARE ENACTING TO THIS GREAT NATION .NONE OF THIS SURPRISES ME AT AT ALL AS I WERE FULLY AWARE AND KNEW THAT THIS WERE HOW HE BARACK OBAMA AND AND HIS ASSOCIATES WOULD OPERATE AND ACT . THE CURRNT CIA ACT BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO APPOINT A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR TO INVESTIGATE THIS SAME CIA SHOULD NOT SURPRISE ANY ONE WHO ARE BESTOW WITH KNOWLEDGE AS THIS IS HOW THEY WERE FROM EVER SINCE BARACK OBAMA AND MANY OF HIS ADVISERS IN HIS ADMINISTRATION WERE NEVER INTERESTED NOR PLACED ANY SIGNICANT IMPORT ON TERRORISMS AS THEY ARE ALL BETHRONE AND OR ANSWERABLE TO THE RICH WEALTHY PRIVILEDGE POLITICAL LEFT RADICALS OF IMMENSE DEMENSIONS THAT TIME AND SPACE WILL NOT PERMITS ME TO LIST AND OR CITE HERE TODAY . WE HAVE GEORGE SOROS WITH MOVEON .ORG MOVEON .ORG STATED IN AN EMAIL LETTER IN THE YEAR 2004 THAT THEY HAD BOUGHT AND THEREON OWNED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY . NOW WHERE DOES MOVEON .ORG GOT THIS MONEY FROM GEORGE SOROS THE HEDGE FUND MAN WHO MAKES YEARLY TWO BILLION DOLLARS PROFIT . THIS IS MUCH GREATER THAN MANY OF THE LARGE AND OR CONGLOMORATE FIRMS AND OR CORPORATIONS MAKE AND SOME EVEN POST LOSSES . FOR EXAMPLE IN THE YEAR 2005 GEORGE SOROS MADE EIHGT HUNDRED FORTY MILLION DOLLARS PROFIT AS THE NUMBER THREE HEDGE FUND MANAGER . SEE THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORT OF MAY 26,2006 . MOVEON .ORG IS THE MAIN SUBSIDIARY FOR GEORGE SOROS RADICAL/LEFTWING .LIE-BERALISMS . MOVEON .ORG IN TURN IS ONE OF BARACK OBAMA?S RELIGIOUSLY ALLIANCES THEY MOVEON .ORG SIMPLY LOVE BARACK OBAMA TO DEATH DO US PART DO I SAY MORE . THE ACLU IS ANOTHER THAT WHICH HATES AMERICA . THE NATIONS MAGAZINE EDITOR ANOTHER MILLIONAIR . MANY MANY RICH WEALTHY POWERFUL ATTORNEY?S AT -LAW INDIVIDUALLY AND EMPIRE CORPORATE POWERFUL LAW FIRMS THAT THEY ARE PARTNERS WITH AND OR WORK THERE MORE SO IN NEW YORK CITY . THIS IS ONLY A MINISCULE OF THE SUPPORT THAT WHICH BARACK OBAMA HAS FROM THE LEFT . I DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE TIME TODAY TUESDAY AUGUST 25.2009 TO ELABORATE . AGAIN KNOWLEDGE IS POWER AND THE SHARING OF KNOWLEDGE TRUTHFULLY IS EMPOWERMENT . TO QUOTE .UNQUOTE . MORE TO COME TREVOR MERCHANT BRONX NEW YORK CITY . TUESDAY AUGUST 25.2009

    39. Sam Gaylord, Boca Ra says:

      New (really, old) scenario:

      1.) Obamas' polls dropping—-NEED BOOSTING!!

      2.) Eric Holder comes up with a DISTRACTION—CIA/TERRORISTS (old stuff–even resolved in the past)

      3.) Obama comes back from "Holiday" and tells Holder to "lay off the CIA.

      4.) People cheer and think Obama now is "not all that bad" and his polls go UP. Believability in Obamacarre goes UP.

      Holder may be thrown AT the bus rather than UNDER it, and Obama is a "hero"

      To understand what's going on—-YOU HAVE TO THINK LIKE THEM!!!

    40. Sam Gaylord, Boca Ra says:

      Left a comment that you didn't choose to print??? No swear words–right on topic–nothing any worse than comments before it. Maybe it was a new idea that someone there wants to exploit???

      O.K.—that's it for you guys—no more contributions!!!

      BYE

    41. John Mulqueen, New R says:

      You people are sad, sadder than I realized. Look out the window, the sun is shinning, the economy is turning up, new cars are rolling out of the showrooms, health care will be improved, we have a new vigorous justice on the Supreme Court, and Dick Cheney is headed for the hoosegow. And all you can talk about is when we will wise up, wake up, spot the Commnies and Socialists.

      Now all we need is the Yankees to win the World Series.

    42. Lee-White Tanks AZ says:

      Re: Quick Hits, last item:

      Who is paying for these 500 events scheduled between now and Sept 8? Is the silent "Hand of Soros" in there somewhere?

      PC is Thought Control

      Lee

    43. JoAnne,Pennsylvania says:

      could it be the CIA is getting to close investigating some of the obama cronies that they have to be stopped?

    44. Mayra Bato says:

      I wish to congratulate Dave from Laguna Niguel, CA. You are bright, your observations and comments are right on the dot. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. I hope thousands read your letter. Also, I wish more people like you would come out "of the woods" and share your amazingly analytical thoughts with so many who are desperately looking for a ray of hope and honest, constructive questions AND answers.

    45. Michael - New York N says:

      ….and the Obama influence does not stop with the persecution of American patriots and those on the front line. The New York Fed yesterday appointed a major union leader/ organizer to the Board of Directors of the New York Federal Reserve Bank. Now, that brings alot of value to a central bank….[zero financial and banking experience]. Bernake gave a quid pro quo on this one. He was name today for anothet four year term. God help us.

    46. Denny, Washington St says:

      For President Obama to make the statement that he wants to “look forward, not back” on CIA interrogations is just not logical. Anyone knows that you have to look back(historically) to look forward. He is foolish if he believes using the Army Field Manual is going to help and not hinder national security.

      To quote something said in the movie, A Few Good Men by Col Jessep…

      "I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it. I'd prefer you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to."

      There is a line in which we should not cross lest we become like those we stand against. But there is a line less talked about and that is the line that we also dare not cross lest we allow those we stand against to destroy our way of life. Both lines are a fine line to walk, however what Obama and his followers would like us to do is not the answer. It would be to cross the second line and I for one and not willing to give up this country and what we stand for to do that. The investigations have already been done …don't open old wounds.

    47. C.C. W.V. says:

      It's all to get our minds off the bills that they want to pass such as Health Care, Cap N Trade. it is the Cliton all over again….Take the peoples mind busy with something else and ram what they want down our throats…. Get a grip folks…. What ever happened to Polosi lieing about the CIA to begin with… They changed the subject and she got away with it the same about the Black Panthers being armed at the polling places…. HELLO NATION!!!!

    48. cj, medford, Or says:

      I thought the Republicans stood for Law and Order or is it just the "Order" part. The fact is that the Bush, Cheney, Rove regime broke the law, violated the Constitution, and ordered others also do so.There is no way of knowing whether the "enhanced" techniques actually gained anything and even if they did it still does not justify the means. No, there is not a war against the CIA. What is really happening is trying to make sure that the unlawful events of the past are understood and don't happen again in the future. I assume that many still believe as Nixon did that…if I say it is legal then it is legal. And a special note to Michael: we are all Americans and fortunately for some of us we believe in following the laws of this great nation.

    49. Whicket Williams Kin says:

      Its all ABOUT THE MONEY they are trying to keep us distracted while they loot the entire country.We need to start now, We Must first impeach, then prosecute, try to recover as much of the STOLEN CASH as possible. It is billions, maybe trillions. nobody knows. Get Jay on the case! We need everybody that is anybody concentrating on the money trail

    50. Steven Kahn Lumberto says:

      I believe with all my heart that independence from foreign oil is an absolute necesity in this day and age. If some country we get oil from threatens to turn off the spiggot,foreign powers can influence our policy. This 'greenstuff' is fine, but people have been talking that same horse manure since the 1973 Arab oil embargo, nothing happened then and nothing will come of it now, but that the USA runs on oil and coal; THAT is a fact.

    51. christopher g scott says:

      The men and women operatives in C I A should be awarded not questioned about the way they got information from these murderers. WAKE UP AMERICA. What if it is a son or daughter or spouse of yours whose life may have been saved by these interogation methods. Keep up the good work C I A America is with you.

    52. Vested says:

      It's a set-up. Say you are only going after the lower echelon, flagrant offenders, and then, when you have documented that they were cleared and/or tacitly encouraged by their superiors, work your way up the chain – all the way to the White House. Obama can disown the process – saying he had no idea it would lead to that. It will be a great show, a great embarassment to the US, and the end of Security as we know it.

    53. Lee-White Tanks AZ says:

      CJ from OR:

      Yours is an old and very "tired" and very wrong lament. Bush/Cheney went out of their way to stay within constitutional boundaries. How do you think we wound up with special courts to allow or disallow wiretaps as the case may require.

      Are you not aware of the myriad of memos by our DOJ that were the result of the Bush administration requesting guidance in this tricky constitutional environment. Or the similar requests and responses to determine interrogation methods that were legal and constitutional.

      That said: if you really, really want to see unconstitutional behavior on steroids for heavens sake just take a good look at this Administration and this Congress. There simply is no comparison.

      PC is Thought Control

      LEE

    54. Judith of The Great says:

      To C.J. of Medford, Or. Since you are apparently an insider with knowledge of highly classified intel, perhaps you could share just a little of this knowledge about the "unlawful" acts and destruction of the Constitution carried out by the previous administration. Please be specific. Generalities won't do.

      I know it is inconvient that this has already been gone over with a fine-toothed comb and nothing illegal was found. But so what. Let's smear again.

      It is a shame you can't speak to Mr. Berg, Daniel Pearl, or any of the other 3000 people slaughtered on 9-11-01. I bet they would say, "Go for it!" in interrogation techniques.

      You also state, "What is really happening is trying to make sure that the unlawful events of the past are understood and don't happen in the future". Lofty ideals, indeed. May I suggest that the investigations into unlawful activities also include every single member of the current administration who are so steeped in corruption, it is incomprehensible. You want names and facts? I'd be happy to oblige.

      John of NY said earlier on this site to look out the window, the sun is shining etc. The scene he is seeing is the results of these interrogations, or else the view out his window might be far, far worse. Cities destroyed by WMD's, utter chaos, people dead, etc.

      Just one last question, what exactly are YOU doing to help protect The United State of America from destruction by our sworn enemies?

    55. Joseph, Sacramento, says:

      Criminal behavior is criminal behavior, cops can be crooks, too.

    56. Ron, Derry NH says:

      We have fought the socialist and propagandist for years in the woods, the forests and the fields of foreign soils…they will try to demoralize you where ever they breed.

      This administration is gratifying its socialist base and attempting to demoralize the decent hard working loyal Americans that see them for the true selves they are; socialists and communists laying waste to our country.

      The good part about this attack upon one of our countries intelligence agencies is it is an attack on our own soil, this will be a very economic fight and should be considered in keeping with the new green agenda. The fight to preserve our dignity, freedom and honor of our men in the CIA, whose job is crucial and sensitive, will not be won by foreign sympathizers or heretics trying to politicize events already reviewed through proper channels and with the proper sensitivity not to weaken the respectability of th agency.

      We can smell political rats a mile away, and this one stinks. We have four more years to endure this charade of contemptuosity, we will endure and we will win.

      Americans are not so naive as to allow socialist's weapons of defamatory moral ambiguity and self righteous pomposity and zeal to erase their love for independence, honor, liberty and respectability toward those that willingly protect us through strenuous situations of life and death to protect our country.

    57. David Barile, Clovis says:

      I think that the CIA and the FBI need to assign an investigator to look into the past dealings of Eric Holder and the rest of the Obama gang. I think that if the Attorney general is going to be looking into the brave men and women that help keep this country safe then we have the right to look into all of his back door dealings that hav mocved him up the ladder and made him rich. Mr. Holder those that live in glass houses should not throw stones.

    58. Mike, Arizona says:

      The democrats don't have a clue (or maybe they don't care). They are going after the very people who have kept this country safe since 9/11. With their going after the CIA, cutting the missile defense system budget by 40% and making more cuts in the defense industry. This country is going to have some rough days ahead. I just hope we can survive 3.5 more years with this so called administration in charge without any attacks in the USA.

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    60. Dexter, San Francisc says:

      We can put our trust in the Constitution, not this government; they have made it perfectly clear, we are their enemy — ok, I’ll go for that. I have no problem with obeying the law.

      After all Congress engineered this sewer (breaking more laws than the CIA ever could) that is beginning to overflow so they shall surely drown in it unless they manage to save themselves first by suicide, either way.

      Not to worry, this administration will fold like a two dollar tent when the first wave of folks choke on the bogus ‘laws’ they are concocting (as if it could feather their nests). This is not the thirties, when communications listed USPS at the top.

      There are at least 150 million people who will not let it happen the Obama way.

      It only takes a few milliseconds to get zeroed in on the real trouble-makers these days. And then too there is no place for them to hide — all those who vote in ObamaCare should have to get their much needed medical treatment in Cuba, where they belong.

    61. Lynn B. DeSpain says:

      The USA has vast reserves of oil, gas and coal. Ironicaly, Congress has made those areas into Federal Parks, and Nature Reserves. The idiots we have running our Nation at this time would have us think, that given an opportunity, they could have easily persuaded the terrorist flying the planes from running them into the Twin Towers on 9-11-2001! Those same type of thinkers would have us all believe that three Black men drinking beer with one White cop would smooth over the need for a direct appology from the bad actions of a university professor, who if the truth be spoken had beenWhite would have been arrested for the same actions, and not a word would have reached the Media. This same level of intelligence would have us believe that giving cupcakes and tea to captured terrorist is a more effective means of obtaining information than verbal threats, stage management and water pured on a dish rag!

      America has close to half its States declaring Soviergnty, pleadging only to follow the Constitution and its Ammendments, and I do pray that my own was one of them. Soon a Contenential Congress can be called and the President, Senate and the House made to follow the Constitution and its Amendments, or forced to leave office.

      Hozro

    62. J. White, south Jers says:

      As for the CIA- GO FOR IT!!!!!!!! If their actions saved our dear son-in-law from harm as he served this ungrateful nation's idiots, then so be it!

      As a descendant of aristocratic/military families who had to battle these evil cretins since the Battle of Tours, I have no sympathy for them. If the CIA operatives had boiled their gonads in pork lard, who cares? The information is what counts.

      BUT, how come the liberal fools can be so worked up over some of these cretins having to be in their underwear in front of women- Egads!!!

      YET, they seemed not to care about watching a young man's throat being open?? Are all liberals stupid, foolish, childish, and hateful of America?

      It would cetainly seem so. The CIA and its operative have saved us from a lot of harm; however, I do not want to know the particulars lest we reveal what we should not on how we dervied the information. Have they always been correct? Nope, but that is the reality of others doing what they can to harm us.

    63. ella,n.c. says:

      Keep up the good work trevor merchant.

    64. ella,n.c. says:

      Wake up john m. to reality, we have a bad president.

    65. Jeff, Somerville MA says:

      Those of you on the right who see their party out of power, and crying because the Attorney General has exposed the crimes committed under the Bush Terror, are the same people who have no problems with torture under any name, and though probably "disagree" with the crimes committed by the Nazis, would back those same crimes were they committed by the United States. "My country right or wrong" is where the republicans stand, and no morality need interfere. A bunch of hypocrites is what you all are.

    66. ella,n.c. says:

      Bush didnot committ any crimes, he protected our country.The right will be back in power, because the democrats are to dumb to keep it.Yes i think their should be torture for evil terrorist who harm us or our militiary boys.

    67. Helmetfoot Boston, says:

      Obama has leaarned everything he knows for Machiavelli's "The Prince." One precept is to put a jerk in charge of things (Eric Holder) then when he screws everthing up, the Prince then says. "Oh my goodness. I didn't know he was so incompentant." Then he dumps the Jerk, puts ssomeone else in charge who is not as big a jerk, and then he Obama, looks like he really cares but still has a less effective Jerk in place.

      I'm 75 years if age and haven't seen so may crises as this guy has had in 8 months. It took me 16 years to graduate from evening college so I guess I''m not too smart but this guy, Obama is like a sneak thief in the night.

    68. Howard, IN says:

      Jeff from MA What are you talking about????? 1st the A/G has exposed nothing, they are investigating!!!! 2nd what is the Bush Terror???? 3rd are you comparing Republicans to Nazis??? If you want to talk about hypocrites you should start looking to the left!!!

    69. Roger S., Ma. says:

      "Jeff, Somerville MA": Attorney General Holder has, so far, exposed no crimes at all. He may be trying to, but if you took a minute or two to review his performance in Senate hearings in May, you'd find it fair to say he'll have a tough time of it. Beyond that, these so-called "crimes" were "exposed" before, and found without proof. Given that fact, the current "shindig" is a smoke screen for some other, shall we say "action", from which the administration is trying to distract.

      – You owe an apology to every commenter on this blog for, 1) forgetting that foreign terrorists attacked us on our own soil on 9/11 2001, and then only did we exercise our perfect right to "visit" their bases in Afghanistan to root them out, and 2) for forgetting that in Afghanistan our men were then attacked by informal and illegal enemy combatants who, except for their murderous designs upon us equivalent to the terrorists', had no reason whatever to engage us in combat, and 3)for equating this with the murderous Nazi terror visited by a whole country bent upon exterminating its neighbors — as well as several 100,000 of its own citizens who had the "wrong religion".

      –Not only is your comment an insult to every American, it is an insult of particular gravity to the memory of all those who have so far perished in this war on terror, not to mention an almost irreparable insult to their friends and family left grieving their loss. You owe them even more than an apology!

      –I think you also owe HF an apology for having abused their generously extended freedom to comment in order to "publish" your despicable drivel. Nowhere but in America would you have had such freedom and opportunity. Shame on you!

      –For myself, I wish you found yourself suddenly in Afghanistan or Iran instead of safe Somerville, and learned first hand their form of response to those who smear their patriots. They do use, and quite freely and without any guilt, some methods which I'll wager would make our much maligned operatives look like altar boys. Strangely, most of us here would probably be ready to risk our lives to rescue you, just because you're a fellow American. I can understand that, yet I would wonder what for! You may quote me!

    70. Mike, Arizona says:

      John Somerville I wouldn’t back the same crimes that the Nazis did if they were done in this country. I think that is an asinine statement to begin with. Even though I’m a hypocrite I can tell the difference in what the Nazis did and what Bush did. The so called torture that Bush used isn’t even close to what the Nazis did. If they had to use water boarding or threaten the 9/11 mastermind that his family would die if anything else happened in the USA I’m glad they did it. I just wonder since you are fighting so hard for the rights of the terrorists if you would be willing to have a bomb go off in your part of town because they didn’t get some info that could have stopped it.

      And yes, our party is out of power but with Obama’s poll numbers dropping everyday I suspect the big switch will start occurring in the 2010 elections and your party will be out of power for a good long time after the mess this president is creating.

    71. Rick Gilbert, Washin says:

      If I hurt you badly enough and long enough, you will say or do anything to make me stop — or you'll die. That does not mean that any of what you say or do under those circumstances is truth. Folks have been watching too much "24" out there.

      Torture is a way to extract something, but not necessarily truth.

      Waterboarding? Beyond the post WWII war crimes trials, the U.S. Army has even court-martialed it's own for this practice. In January 1968, a photo appeared in a U.S. newpaper showing an American soldier supervising the waterboarding of a North Vietnamese soldier. The photo led to an investigation, and the soldier was court-martialed 2 months later. It was torture then, and it's torture now. The flag it's conducted under, or any sense of "imminent danger" does not make it less criminal.

      In the recent debacle following the attacks of 9/11, we allowed people who had no knowledge or experience with interrogations "develop" protocols based on techniques that our adversaries used to extract false confessions from captured U.S. military personnel. If the techniques were used to force our people to tell untruths, why in the name of all that is holy would we expect that those same techniques would extract truth from anyone? And if by chance they did yield truth, how would we tell the difference between the truth and a lie that was told just to make the pain stop?

      I'm personally on the fence regarding the culpability of the interrogators who followed the criminal rules they were given. On the other hand, those who went beyond those rules are clearly guilty of crimes. What galls me is that we're still only looking into the actions of the "Lindy England's." If we still had the integrity of the nation that went to war against Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, we would look into those who crafted the rules and those who approved them, and we would hold them to criminal account for their actions – all the way up to and including the former Commander-In-Chief.

    72. Linda, Memphis Tn says:

      I stand behind our CIA and any governement group

      that does what it takes to protect the USA & the

      people of it. I'm ashamed of my government that

      is running our country down that words can not

      say it all. All God , and a turn around is the

      only thing that will save us from becoming the

      worse country in the world. God Help Us

    73. Kim, Texas says:

      CIA agents are heroes, in the truest sense of the word, for keeping the nation safe, they deserve our gratitude and respect. They perform work of which most people cannot begin to comprehend the importance. They do this job willingly and have gotten It right, apparently, USA has had no further attacks for almost eight years. Thank God and Thank CIA. Waterboarding is torturous, I'd imagine. but it is also a tactic that the military uses on our own troops, as training for special forces, Navy SEALS, Green berets, etc. Does that bother any liberals out there? Our soldiers wear uniforms with their names right on the chest, they are proud of the efforts they make in war or peace, in the name of freedom. When the terrorists (islamic fundamentalists) take off their hoods while beheading their innocent victims, THEN we should investigate the CIA. Holder could have appointed an 'investigator' but choose to call him a "prosecutor" because Holder already knows exactly where he wants this sham to go…

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    76. robert gundlach says:

      Can the people of the United states use a class action suit against the admin?

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