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  • Townhall Downfall: Obamacare and the Enumerated Powers of Congress

    Last Friday we outlined just some of the ways that Obamacare is inconsistent with our founding first principles. In this video from a St. Louis, Missouri, townhall hosted by Sen. Claire McCaskill’s (D-MO) office, a servicemen politely and cogently explains that “health care” does not appear anywhere among the enumerated powers granted to Congress in Article I section 8 of the U.S. Constitution:

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y98HxYbsdBM&feature=related[/youtube]

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    28 Responses to Townhall Downfall: Obamacare and the Enumerated Powers of Congress

    1. Bobbie Jay says:

      It is of great comfort that the youth of this country, is not being taken in by the fools of government members leading this country…

    2. Bobbie Jay says:

      When I heard it the first time it was hard to hear. I watched again on Youtube, and am deeply humbled! Appreciative! Grateful!

      What awesome words from a young man that knows the constitution more then all democrat leadership and some republican leadership in government. The word of focus "leadership."…sad, very sad.

    3. carla yeates says:

      I am always hearing that Tricare is great. It doesn't work. Broken promises by the government. Free healthcare and dental for you and your dependants for the rest of your lives if you make a career defending our country. They did and now we have to pay for the healthcare and dental. They say they can model a national healthcare program after Tricare. Sure they will based on broken promises. Tricare is a government ran healthcare system and here is a true example of this system and the quality of care you can expect from a national healthcare system.

      A year ago on good friday I broke my foot and went to the emergency room at brook army medical center and had all the x-rays and was told because they were busy with several tramas that they were told to splint it and give me a referral to ortho. I called the orth clinic the next day and was told that it was a routine referral and if I needed to be seen I would need to go to my primary care provider (I was tricare prime) and get a referral to be seen sooner. I called the central clinic and made an appointment. When I saw the pcp she told me that she couldn't refer me to the ortho clinic until she sent me to physical therapy first.I insisted that I can't do physical therapy on a broken foot. She insisted that her hands were tied. I informed her that my hands were not tied. I called patient affairs and filed a complaint. I found an orthopedic doctor on the outside cancelled tricare prime and had my foot casted. The quack they called a pcp was worried that I was in pain and could injure my foot by doing physical therapy. The solution was here is some vicodine, percacet, and oxy-cotin to take care of the pain.

      I now have insurance and tricare is secondary only.

      Tricare is administored by Humana Insurance. They say they will out source the administration of a national healthcare system;like all government contracts they will select the lowest bidder. The lowest bidder will need to make money so care will be sub-standard.I am an army brat and a army widow. I have had treatment when it was military doctors only providing treatment and now where the government has mucked with it and has created a nightmare. If they do this to Tricare how will they manage a national healthcare system?

    4. jim smith says:

      "Enumerated powers" is a foreign language to our Congress. They think the original documents were printed on flash paper. They know pork, lying, campaigning, more lying (to get even more pork) and arrogance. You see, it's a gift. How can one serve in Congress by writing impossibly long legislation, not read it and expect the voting public to sit by like mind numbed robots? That takes arrogance just about as low as human behavior allows.

    5. Floyd Edick, Livings says:

      In the first line of the U.S. Constitution, it says"promote the general welfare" Does that mean healthcare and food stamps? I think not. Obviously this congress thinks so. In fact it appears to me that most federal programs should be state programs if at all. Looks like both parties over the years have usurped the original wording to their own advantage. Maybe they just had the arrogance not to care how they mangled the Constitution because neither the states nor the people have called them on it lately.

    6. Dean, Lititz says:

      This is the 40th anniversary of Woodstock the rock concert. The people and ideas of that era are running our country. God help us.

    7. Barry, Lexington Ky says:

      Well here it is again; the Constitution of the US written by our Founding Fathers in the late 1700's is being used to disrupt and lay ruin to the socialistic and borderline Marxist intentions of our current Gov in 2009..

      Also to note, in the preamble of the Constitution;

      "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

      That it Clearly states that 'We the people' not 'Us the Govt' are the active participants in forming and determining our nations political and economic destiny.

      I do think that the young soldier is right about requesting and getting an apology from his Rep, yet I would think good luck to him about getting that apology. For it has been my experience, as well as some of my associates experience, that people in positions of political power feel as though they owe no one, especially the common voter an apology for their political snafu's. Which flies in the face of common sense and reality. For it is the common voter that determines if they go to DC and if they stay in DC.

    8. Lwesson, TX says:

      There is a bigger picture here than concerns about enumerated powers with regards to the "health care reform" if I may be so permitted to say so. The Constitution and The Bill of Rights is in the way of having The State supersede The People as as being the ultimate arbitrators of power. This, so called reform to fix a "broken" system is a tool, a segway to a transformation of having The People reverted to mere subjects of the State, as in Canada and other "Free" countries.

      Nationalized health care will assist in making the transfer of wealth into yet another economic emergency. In the future, as the economy/dollar implodes The State will take advantage of another manufactured crisis and continue transmogrifying The People into a NEW People dependent on the State. Ever increasingly The State will be free of the old constraints of such anachronisms like The Constitution, The Bill of Rights and God forbid the revolutionary provocative Declaration of Independence.

      The enumeration of powers issue is just a simple side note as will be the nationalization of health insurance if it is done. Why? Persons such as myself will be moderated and sites such as American Heritage will not be tolerated in present form.

    9. Ross writes, Bradent says:

      Most people will do what has to be done to survive, that includes the opportunity to vote. Now the question, are the American people educated or informed enough on the "instructional manual" (the Constitution of the United States) to make an intelligent political decision? I would say no, our governmental education system and the free press has failed the American people.

      It is time for the American people to "qualify" to vote by demonstrating a working knowledge of the Constitution and how our Representative Republic system(we are not a democracy) is suppose to work. If I remember right, that is one of the requirements for legal emigrants to gain citizenship.

    10. Mrs S C Thompson, Al says:

      I left Canada because National Health Care is rotten and KILLS. It is rationing! I came here as I was going in the Medical Field and the USA has the best in the world. There is NO place in the Constitution that says Congress should take our Health and rule where and what we should have. This is against the Constitution.

      OUr Economy is a mess and now this Health Care Plan??? will KILL the ECONOMY. Stop the Health

      Plan Takeover. Thank you.

    11. Jack Kime, Illinois says:

      As a retired (1973) Army Warrant Officer, I can vouch for Carla's comments concerning medical and/or dental treatment for retired servicemembers and their dependents. When I first enlisted in the Army (1952), I can recall the "pie in the sky" promises of lifetime care for me and my family. Over the years, the military dental care was first to disappear, then priorities were established that put us nearly the bottom of the list, and then base closures removed many of the most used facilities from our use. The Army has provided well for me in many respects, but medical care has not been one of these. I now have other insurance care which fully meets my family needs–until Obama Care manages to sabotage that with his own "pie in the sky" promises.

    12. John Roane Sarasota says:

      It’s nice to see that someone has read the US Constitution. Now if we could only get the US Congress to do the same. However, thier comprehension level is that of a second grader. OK you’re most likely right, a first grader.

    13. Ben C, Ann Arbor says:

      I agree. It is refreshing and restores my faith in the youth of America. There some very bright well spoken young adults that understand what is happening. BRAVO!

    14. joanne phoenix says:

      GOD BLESS OUR MILITARY. AT THIS POINT IN OUR NATIONS HISTORY THEY SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONES ALLOWED TO VOTE UNTIL THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT NATION WAKES UP AND TAKES ON THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN LIVES INSTEAD OF EXPECTING GOVERNMENT TO DO IT. GOVERNMENT IF NOTHING MORE THAN A GROUP OF ARROGANT PEOPLE TAKING ALL OF THE HARD WORKING PEOPLES MONEY AND USING IT AS THEY SEE FIT, USUALLY FOR PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO EVERYTHING EVERYONE ELSE HAS BUT DON'T WANT TO PUT OUT THE EFFORT IT TAKES TO EARN IT THEMSEMVES.

    15. Richard Norton, rura says:

      carla yeates and Jack Kime, I am sorry you have had bad experiences with Tricare. I also am a retired Warrant Officer (CW4, 2005) and I also hear the "pie in the sky" promises from the army when I joined in 1965. When I retired and went into Tricare prime I made the choise to be allowed off base. I had to write a letter to the Commander of the Military Treatment Facility on Dyess AFB to receive all my treatment off base. I have to pay the $12.00 co-pay but am very happy with my not military doctor. When I left the military I promised myself never again to a military doctor. Last year I wrecked my goldwing motorcycle at 70 MPH and 7 weeks later and a bundle of money later I'm ok. Tricare picked up everything except for very minor co-pays. Now if you want to see something bad, look at the Congressional Budget Office "Budge Options, Volume I, Healthcare dated December 2008 and see what they will do to us under President Obama's cost savings from Medicare (including Tricare and Federal employees health care). Just quickly Tricare is increasing in cost to at least double, double co-pays and when you go to Medicare the costs are also going up and the retiree will pay half of the costs Tricare used to pick up for the first $4,500.00 (meaning costing over $2,000.00) and they are wanting dependents of active duty soldiers to pay for their Tricare and have the Military Treatment Facilities collect money, no more free treatments!

    16. John Pummell, Alexan says:

      Unfortunately, Dean, I think you're right. The Woodstock generation is in charge. I didn't attend Woodstock, but at the time sympathized with many of the ideas propagated. I'm older and–I hope–wiser now. It is scary to think that the Left has a grip on the White House, Congress, and, if they get their way, the Supreme Court.

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    19. Marilyn, PA says:

      I get a kick at all the people complaining about this administration trampling on the Constitution. Does everybody forget how the Bush administration trod on the Constitution, ie.

      elimination of habeas corpus,torture groups which are illegal. I could go on and on but surely you all remember what went on during that administration. Now, you want to complain about Obama! You should be ashamed.

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    20. Thomas Jefferson says:

      "Our tenet ever was… that Congress had not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but were restrained to those specifically enumerated, and that, as it was never meant that they should provide for that welfare but by the exercise of the enumerated powers, so it could not have been meant they should raise money for purposes which the enumeration did not place under their action; consequently, that the specification of powers is a limitation of the purposes for which they may raise money." Thomas Jefferson to Albert Gallatin, 1817

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    26. Sue Potts, Oregon says:

      I am glad Marilyn from PA gets a "kick" out of people's concerns about the "Obamanation" of a health care takeover that is being foisted on the American people. Our Congressmen and women care little about what is in the best interest of the "general welfare" of the country. The constitution states that congress will "promote" the general welfare…not "provide" it. This is clearly a power trip to further take control away from the citizenry with regard to their person lives and well-being. Spend some time, Marilyn, watching the Congress in action on this one and you will find FEW that have even read all of what they are trying to pass. We are living in sad times I am afraid, and if this plan or any plan like it is put into effect we are going to be taxed out of our panties!

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