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  • House Health Care Bill Yields $9.2 Trillion in Deficits

    Members of Congress have been working frantically to bring the cost of the health care bill below $1 trillion, make it “deficit-neutral,” per the President’s instructions, and meet Blue Dogs’ expectations that it be “paid for.” As the Congressional Budget Office has pointed out, so far they’ve had no such luck.

    But the bigger problem is that in focusing on $1 trillion, Congress is missing the forest for the trees.

    All the estimates they evaluate are 10-year figures, yet nationalized health insurance, if it passes, will likely be around much longer than that. Longer-term estimates must therefore be examined to determine whether future promised benefits will really be paid for.

    Turns out, funds are insufficient to the tune of $9.2 trillion, according to the Joint Economic Committee’s 75-year costs estimate of the House bill.

    That’s big, but when you add it to the existing unfunded promises–which exceed $45 trillion–that already exist in Social Security and Medicare, the House health bill makes an already unaffordable and unsustainable budget worse. In fact, the unfunded promises of the health bill are bigger than the Social Security shortfall alone.

    Without nationalized health care, the amount of money that would be required from every American, today, to close our current fiscal gap equals $184,000. If $9.2 trillion in new debt is added, that figure would exceed $214,000–an additional $30,000 per person.

    Unless you can afford to write a $214,000 check to the government today or want to pass the buck onto future generations, you have to ask yourself: Can America really afford national health care right now?

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    9 Responses to House Health Care Bill Yields $9.2 Trillion in Deficits

    1. Theresa, Houston says:

      • THIS IS GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF MOST OF OUR LIVES. I DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO HAVE ACCESS TO MY BANK ACCOUNT!

      Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!

      • Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!

      • Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and

      benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals

      process)

      • Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health

      benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.

      • Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with

      free healthcare services.

      • Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.

      • Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access

      to all individual bank accounts for=2 0electronic funds transfer.

      • Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community

      organizer health plans (read: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)

      • Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government

      rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.

      • Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the

      Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans)

      • Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services;

      translation: illegal aliens

      • Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up

      individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.

      • Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically

      enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.

      • Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No

      "judicial review" is per mitted against the government monopoly. Put

      simply, private insurers will be crushed.

      • Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.

      • Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the

      government-run public plan. No alternatives.

      • Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time

      employees AND their families.

      • Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not

      offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll

      • Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who

      does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll

      • Page 167: Any individual who doesn’t' have acceptable healthcare

      (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.

      • Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes

      (Americans will pay for them).

      • Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Healthcare

      Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal

      records.

      • Page 203: "The tax imposed under this section s hall not be treated

      as tax." Yes, it really says that.

      • Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors

      and the poor most affected."

      • Page 241: Doctors: no matter what specialty you have, you'll all be

      paid the same (thanks, AMA!)

      • Page 253: Government sets value of doctors' time, their professional

      judgment, etc.

      • Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private

      healthcare industries.

      • Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven

      wheelchairs.

      • Page 272: Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!

      • Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems

      preventable re-admissions.

      • Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial

      admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the

      government.

      • Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited for owning and investing

      in healthcare companies!

      • Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand

      without government approval.

      • Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on "community" input: in other

      words, yet another payoff for ACORN.

      • Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based

      measures: i.e., rationing.

      • Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage

      Plans, HMOs, etc.

      • Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.

      • Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee

      (healthcare by phone).

      • Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior

      Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?

      • Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living

      wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in

      estate taxes ahead of time.

      • Page 425: Government provides approved list of end-of-life

      resources, guiding you in death.

      • Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life

      treatment; government dictates how your life ends.

      • Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate

      treatment as patient's health deteriorates. This can include an ORDER

      for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT.

      • Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may

      have at end-of-life.

      • Page 469: Community-based Home Medical Services: more payoffs for ACORN.

      • Page 472: Payments to Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.

      • Page 489: Government will cover marriage and family therapy.

      Government intervenes in your marriage.

      • Page 494: Government will cover mental health services: defining,

      creating and rationing those services.

    2. Thomas L. Carroll says:

      There are 35 other countries with working models of health care systems better than ours, all with cost savings of one to three dollars per hour savings. In fact, there are two more working models in the U.S., The Veterans and Medicare, who both provide better services, except for after care rehabilitation. Medicare depends on the after care medical services our private system has created. These services have serious problems that are getting worse every year. After care health service quality has diminished because insurance companies continue to deny particular procedures or shave on the process in every way and every year, each year. As a result overall quality has been on a decline in a big way every year since 1985, we have gone from a pretty decent system in 1985, to a system barely tolerable. I am talking about services provided after an accident or procedure. Unless you are an ongoing participant or knowledgeable of their need and importance, so you have no idea how bad things have gotten. People don’t realize just how fast their insurance company dumps you when you want service, or that its much worst if you Need services. These companies have been shaving and deleting services on the after care side in a big way every year, because there have not been enough people till recently so complaints have an impact..

      People just have no idea we are paying much more for much less every year on both the after care and primary care sides of services. Communicating the fact the insurance policy’s are often worthless in many cases is not something either side wants to admit and something town halls or polls cannot predict or make people aware of the Facts.

      The fact is private insurance, to date, has cancelled 7 million cases they labeled either Long Term or Catastrophic. This forces Medicare to absorb every single one of the most expensive, long term case without exception. Once a case is labeled Long Term or Catastrophic the only option is Medicare.

      Medicare used to be considered an inferior policy to private insurance plans, but now is considered a premium plan. Private carriers no longer provide, cover, or have curtailed so much from the private plans Medicare has become a preferred service even though doctors are paid less, this is a testament of just how bad things have gotten. The policies being canceled represent individuals, people, and families, who had all been working and paying a premium for their insurance until either illness or accident caused their insurance carrier to drop them. Once dropped from the private plan they have only one option left that accepts pre-existing or catastrophic cases, Medicare. In order to keep Medicare and receive any medical services you can no longer work, or produce taxes, Brilliant! I call it the American Social Economic Prison, of which, I have been prisoner since September 13, 1985. Unfortunately, not enough of the 7 million forced on Disability hate poverty as much as I do, and will push for change, until Now!

    3. Thomas L. Carroll says:

      There are 35 other countries with working models of health care systems better than ours, all with cost savings of one to three dollars per hour savings. In fact, there are two more working models in the U.S., The Veterans and Medicare, who both provide better services, except for after care rehabilitation. Medicare depends on the after care medical services our private system has created. These services have serious problems that are getting worse every year. After care health service quality has diminished because insurance companies continue to deny particular procedures or shaved off particular different processes in different situations every year, each year. As a result overall quality has been on a decline in a big way every year since 1985, we have gone from a pretty decent system in 1985, to a system barely tolerable. I am focusing on the services provided after an accident or procedure required to assist in recovery. Unless you are an ongoing participant or knowledgeable of their need and importance, you won’t have an idea how bad things have gotten, perfect for insurance carriers. On the front end, People don’t realize just how fast their insurance company denies you when you want service, or cancels you when services are Necessary. These companies have been shaving and deleting services on the after care side in a big way every year, because there are the most unnoticed and affect the fewest people, but damage the overall system the most. That has not slowed their denials of services on the front end either but complaints have an impact when associated with large numbers. The fact is people just have no idea we are paying much more for much less every year on both the after care and primary care sides of services. Communicating these facts on how bad the insurance policy’s are, and that often the policy turns out to be worthless even when you thought you had a Cadillac, you got a Pinto. Those are cases neither side wants to admit and something town halls or polls cannot predict or make people aware of, but Facts just the same. A Living will is something every hospital wants you to have any time you check in, no matter what you are going in for.

      Another fact is private insurance, to date, has cancelled 7 million policies, people, or cases and they labeled them either Long Term or Catastrophic. This forces Medicare to absorb every single one of the most expensive, long term cases without exception. Once a case is labeled Long Term or Catastrophic the only option is Medicare. I wonder why private insurance always makes profit? What a FRAUD, people are stupid this is a con job, big time.Medicare used to be considered an inferior policy to private insurance plans, but now is considered a premium plan. Private carriers no longer provide, cover, or have curtailed so much from the private plans Medicare has become a preferred service even though doctors are paid less, this is a testament of just how bad things have gotten. The policies being canceled represent individuals, people, and families, who had all been working and paying a premium for their insurance until either illness or accident caused their insurance carrier to drop them. Once dropped from the private plan they have only one option left that accepts pre-existing or catastrophic cases, Medicare. In order to keep Medicare and receive any medical services you can no longer work, or produce taxes, Brilliant! I call it the American Social Economic Prison, of which, I have been prisoner since September 13, 1985. Unfortunately, not enough of the 7 million forced on Disability hate poverty as much as I do, and will push for change, until Now!

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    5. Brittancus, Indianap says:

      These politicians voted Against the Nathan Deal Amendment, that would Prevent Health Care Benefits to Illegal Aliens. Simply put–it's not their BLOODY MONEY! So what! Do they care if taxpayers have to foot the behemoth bill, for anybody who snubs our laws and enters a sovereign country called America? The nationwide parasites are –CHEAP LABOR–businesses who could care less, because they pile up enormous profits. The corporate hierarchy have been having a field day–FOR DECADES. A foreign national gets hurt, their service manager or whoever the underling is, drives the maimed person and relinquishes any responsibility by dumping them on the emergency hospital entranceway. BINGO! nothing to pay!

      Perhaps Americans should find some old shoddy clothes, no shave, no haircut and enter every emergency room in our country in the millions? Speak a lot of gibberish and carry no identification with a small splinter in their finger, a touch of a fever or any minor condition. By federal law the hospital will have an emergency on a–EMERGENCY. I am afraid Americans have been Lemmings going over a proverbial cliff, since who knows when? We just keep paying and paying even more to the IRS, to support–ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Try getting free health care in any other country, other than societies in the European Union? A FAT CHANCE! We are literary being taxed to death, to give welfare to the business overlords. These legislators have already tried to weaken E-Verify, local police action 287(g) and now unwinding the 1986 Simpson/Mazzoli enforcement law–which worked, but again was never enforced.

      Even our Democrats who are trying to engineer health care for every American—INCLUDED 20 PLUS ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND THEIR LARGE FAMILIES. Here are 29 Judas Iscariot's, who sold the American people out–for a lot more than 13 pieces of silver? HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR. Capps (D-CA), Eshoo (D-CA), Harman (D-CA), Matsui (D-CA), McNerney (D-CA), Waxman (D-CA), DeGette (D-CO), Murphy (D-CT), Castor (D-FL), Rush (D-IL), Schakowsky (D-IL), Braley (D-IA), Sarbanes (D-MD), Markey (D-MA), Dingell (D-MI), Stupak (D-MI), Pallone (D-NJ), Weiner (D-NY), Butterfield (D-NC), Space (D-OH), Sutton (D-OH), Doyle (D-PA), Gordon (D-TN), Gonzalez (D-TX), Green (D-TX),Welch (D-VT), Christensen (D-VI), Inslee (D-WA) and Baldwin (D-WI). I'm afraid I would be banned if I used the right epithet, when leaving a comment for these so called lawmakers?

      These are the betrayers of–ALL–taxpayers. These 29 traitors gave illegal immigrants the right to pilfer your billfold and purse, while they sit in their Washington office collecting their 6 figure salaries. REMEMBER THEM AND THROW THEM OUT! DEMAND NO AMNESTY! NO FAMILY UNIFICATION KNOWN AS CHAIN MIGRATION! BUILD THE ORIGINAL FENCE! NO MORE HEALTH CARE OR ANY OTHER KIND OF BENEFITS FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. CLOSE THE BORDER AND STATION THE NATIONAL GUARD. $2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS, JUST IN RETIREMENT BENEFITS? Learn uncorrupted facts at NUMBERSUSA. For myself and family! I am for any health care re-organization, as long as it doesn't smell of copious profiteering and corruption, like the majority of private insurers do?

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    6. Charles Yahn Loui says:

      How can Obama continue to lie about this healthcare bill? Does he force the budget to support his lies.

    7. Dick Hough, Camarill says:

      Let the Hollywood crowd write those checks. Let academia write them. Let Acorn write those checks. Let members of Congress past and present write them. Let Mr. and Mrs. Obama, Mr. and Mrs. Clinton, and Mr. Carter write a few with their book royalties. Let checks be written by the faceless AND NOT SO FACELESS bureaucrat straphangers in DC and in statehouses who’s jobs depend on deficits. Let the unions write them with dues rather than funding election campaigns. Let leftist bloggers write one as a rite of passage. Let the media write some. Let General Electric write checks. Let the Republicans who let us down write some as well. And let them be written by all who believe deficits should be funded with someone else’s money. Then we shall see what we can afford. I don’t have any more checks in my checkbook.

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