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  • Morning Bell: Obama Admits He's "Not Familiar" With House Bill

    With the public’s trust in his handling of health care tanking (50%-44% of Americans disapprove), the White House has launched a new phase of its strategy designed to pass Obamacare: all Obama, all the time. As part of that effort, Obama hosted a conference call with leftist bloggers urging them to pressure Congress to pass his health plan as soon as possible. During the call, a blogger from Maine said he kept running into an Investors Business Daily article that claimed Section 102 of the House health legislation would outlaw private insurance. He asked: “Is this true? Will people be able to keep their insurance and will insurers be able to write new policies even though H.R. 3200 is passed?” President Obama replied: “You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about.” (quote begins at 17:10) This is a truly disturbing admission by the President, especially considering that later in the call, Obama promises yet again: “If you have health insurance, and you like it, and you have a doctor that you like, then you can keep it. Period.” How can Obama keep making this promise if he is not familiar with the health legislation that is being written in Congress? Details matter. We are familiar with the passage IBD cites, and as we wrote last week, the House bill does not outright outlaw private individual health insurance, but it does effectively regulate it out of existence. The House bill does allow private insurance to be sold, but only “Exchange-participating health benefits plans.” In order to qualify as an “Exchange-participating health benefits plan,” all health insurance plans must conform to a slew of new regulations, including community rating and guaranteed issue. These will all send the cost of private individual health insurance skyrocketing. Furthermore, all these new regulations would not apply just to individual insurance plans, but to all insurance plans. So the House bill will also drive up the cost of your existing employer coverage as well. Until, of course, it becomes so expensive that your company makes the perfectly economical decision to dump you into the government plan. President Obama may not care to study how many people will lose their current health insurance if his plan becomes law, but like most Americans, we do. That is why we partnered with the Lewin Group to study how many Americans would be forced into the government “option” under the House health plan. Here is what we found:

    • Approximately 103 million people would be covered under the new public plan and, as a consequence, about 83.4 million people would lose their private insurance. This would represent a 48.4 percent reduction in the number of people with private coverage.
    • About 88.1 million workers would see their current private, employer-sponsored health plan go away and would be shifted to the public plan.
    • Yearly premiums for the typical American with private coverage could go up by as much as $460 per privately-insured person, as a result of increased cost-shifting stemming from a public plan modeled on Medicare.

    It is truly frightening that the President of the United States is pressuring Congress in an all-out media blitz to pass legislation that he flatly admits he has not read and is not familiar with. President Obama owes it to the American people to stop making promises about what his health plan will or will not do until he has read it, and can properly defend it in public, to his own supporters. Quick Hits:

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    485 Responses to Morning Bell: Obama Admits He's "Not Familiar" With House Bill

    1. Markus Robinson, Pit says:

      How can he do promises? Because he has veto power. The bill hasn't come to him yet so of course he isn't familiar with every little thing in it.

      Obama is supporting the public option, as is majority of Americans, according to most polls.

    2. jake,LHC says:

      obama don't know nothing but to read meaningless words off flashcards.

      READ MY LIPS OBAMA

      TORT REFORM TORT REFORM,put your foney croneyies out of business obama and healthcare costs will come down 40%-60%

      TORT REFOR=CROOKED LAWYERS

    3. BOYD BILBO, NEWPORT says:

      I AGREE TOTALLY. THANKS. PS: THE WORD IN PARAGRAPH III AFTER, "IBD" SHOULD BE, "CITES", NOT, "SITES".

    4. Alex Neff Phoenix, A says:

      Could there finally be truth coming out of Washington?

      President Obama replied: “You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about.”

      I don't think any of them know what provisions they're voting on!

    5. Eileen F. Jackson, C says:

      I am absolutely amazed that President Obama took more time in considering what breed of dog to get for a family pet than the time he is allowing Congress to consider this HUGE National Health Care bill.

      His audacity is absolutely amazing.

      I pray it fails…….big time.

    6. Nelia, AZ says:

      Obama pressuring Congress to pass legislation he has not even seen is not only obscene, it speaks to an out-of-control obsession on his part. His agenda of socialized medicine, no matter what or how, may cost him dearly. His own Congress could sink his ship of state. Certainly no transparency here, there, or anywhere.

    7. Paul says:

      I will not be treated as a sheeple. My land, my property, and my earnings are not yours. They are given only in the defense of this nation, its people, its liberties, and its ideals. My heritage has worked to create this nation, has secured this nation, and sought to maintain this nation. My lineage will seek to preserve this nation in its liberties, rights and privileges.

      I will not be spoken to as a lesser, your act of representation does not afford you status or title of nobility. It does however provide you the requisite to represent; your district, your state, your constituents; your fellow citizens. It does not provide you the duty nor debt to represent your business, your interests, your financiers or their business. These I abhor, and I will seek to remove you from your representation by this offense.

      You were not elected for the common good of man, or the betterment of society, nor to try and achieve such. You were elected to protect and preserve. Failure to do so is derelict; and I will work to relieve you of such duties.

      You were not elected for your associations with party, rather for your resolution and desire to represent. Failure to place your representation above your party is a failure of your simple responsibility.

      You were not elected to cater, coddle, or seek the interests of the select. You were not elected to promote your ideas, your future, or your ways, short of also representing our ideas, future, and ways. Do not foist upon me your ideals, your views, and your morals; to do so belittle my own, this nation's, and its citizens within.

      Seek to protect and preserve that which is already afforded, and minimize that which is not. Do not afford that which you are not entitled to give, or is wrong to take. I have not given to you the right, either implicitly or explicitly, to take what I have earned, regardless of the results. You have only been afforded the duty to protect and preserve, betterment was never involved.

      I have been given the intellect, the ability, and the responsibility to self-determination, self-reliance, and self-empowerment. I do not require your assistance in these, and consider it an affront to believe that I do. Your desire to control, direct and guide my decisions through deceit and deception is an attack on the liberties you took an oath to preserve.

      Your failures to perform the duties ordained, and to which you swore an oath to execute will only require that I work to disenfranchise you, render you voiceless, and render you obsolete, relegating you to the dustbin of the tomes of history.

      Sincerely,

      This Citizen of the United States

    8. Tom, NJ says:

      Typical of Obama to demand passage of a bill that even he know's nothing about! Proof once again that his agenda has nothing to do with turning around the economy or improving our lives. It is all about forcing through a socialist system where the federal government controls every aspect of our lives. The republicans need to schedule several "town hall style" meetings throughout the recess and get the message out, before it is too late!!!

    9. jack houston tx says:

      the man is a complete imbecile, a product of racial quotas. he has never held down a real job. never ever forget proper tire inflation. that was the tell that this guy is a fool. yeah he may read great from the teleprompter but it appears he has no knowledge of basic economics,US or World History,and is a horrible judge of character. we are screwed. thank republicans for being as corrupt as the dems when you were in power and thanks for giving us candidates like dole,bush and mccain.

    10. Vigyan, WashDC says:

      This isn't how a democracy works. This process is how professional wrestling works. The will of the people is pretty clearly against intrusive arrogant government especially in terms of patient-doctor relationships. Encouraging contrived arguments from unemployed, kooky bloggers being sent to congress is not democracy. Hrrmm. About now would be a nice time to have an arsenal of fair-minded, objective journalsts/media.

    11. T. Hawkins, Kansas C says:

      You have to ask yourself this question: Why is he in such a hurry for such a game-changer?

      One answer: Because, right now, many voters continue to believe that this is Bush's recession. Once they figure out it's Obama's, they will start questioning everything. If you are Obama, get it done now before they figure it out!

    12. Harry E, New York Ci says:

      "Make no mistake", this untouchable front man for the enemies of our way of life has no idea of how he is being manipulated.

    13. Mike A., Pittsburgh, says:

      Another incomprehensible fact is that Obama and Pelosi keep insisting that it is "what the public wants."

      Yesterday, the CNN poll (mind you on a generally left leaning website visited by liberals) asked if people approved of Obama's handling of health care reform and the vast majority (something like 59% – 41%) said NO. Not surprisingly, CNN changed the poll to something new within hours. Meanwhile just weeks ago they left the "Is Michael Jackson the greatest entertainer of all time" poll up for literally weeks. Yes, MSM definitely has their priorities straight.

      What a sham.

    14. Jay, Reno, NV says:

      And he says "Its not about me" This statement has proven to be a joke since he admits he doesn't know what is in this

      healthcare bill. Since he apparently does not care what is in it, IT IS ABOUT HIM. He doesn't give a damm what's in it.

      Any President that pushes for a bill that is so important to the American people, and, claims he doesn't know what is in it

      is another Jimmy Carter!.

    15. Rob, Ohio says:

      He has no idea what specifics this bill entails, yet he's pushing hard for it? Who is really in charge?

    16. Michael Huppman Fols says:

      Educate us on the bill, not your perception of the impacts. Sounds like you don't know the bill. It is an opinion to state that the provision would regulate private insurance out of existence. I guess whatever it takes to bash Obama……

    17. Chris says:

      May ALL private insurance be wiped out.. and soon.

    18. debbie,new york says:

      Just another of the "TRILLION DOLLAR" reasons this bill must go down.. I like my doctor and my insurance.

    19. Jim Wisdom, Westlake says:

      If the President had read this massive bill he would realize what a piece of crap it is. He should have done the same thing on the Stimulus Package and Cap and Trade. I guess it's just easier to spend other people's money ( ours)!

    20. Kathy, Illinois says:

      It's time for the mainstream to start looking at Obama with a critical eye and report what they find. They will ultimately be held responsible if Health care and Cap and Trade destroy this economy.

    21. wamerrick Bozeman, M says:

      If Obamacare passes, where will the thousands of Canadians go to get surgery?

    22. leftny,fl says:

      "not familiar" well isn't that presidential! How "familiar" are the congressmen? or the public? Yet they want to ram healthcare down the throats of hard working American, to fund the "not so hard working" people, including illegal occupants, tax our children to death, destroy the best parts of our healthcare system, and put everyone on a system similar to worker's comp. Well I hope everyone likes the treatment they get with worker's comp, because that is the treatments being proposed. If you don't like it, go to Canada for treatment. oops. They don't have a better system, now they won't be able to come here either. How about this for a "change" ?

    23. Betsy Gorisch, Knoxv says:

      "All Obama, all the time."

      OK. And this differs from what they've been doing since January 20th (and actually longer), exactly, uh, how?

    24. Bill M. New York, NY says:

      Under the new health bill, will congressmen and senators continue to have their own privilaged health coverage or be required to participate with the peasants. Since their so fast to pass this legislation, and hopefully read it, they should have the same requirements for coverage as the rest of us.

    25. no one says:

      The proposed plan will eventually force almost everyone into the government "option", and this is intentional. It will not stop at the 83.4 million predicted by this study. Ask yourself – how many people over 65 have private insurance, instead of the Medicare "option"? You do not have to us Medicare if you are over 65, but I would guess less than 1 in 1000 keep private insurance coverage once they turn 65, because the government-subsidized plan is cheaper for most people.

      Once physicians must deal with just one payer they will be forced to accept whatever reduced payments the government dictates, since they are forbidden to organize and strike, unlike most other people). Obama has gone on record as saying he wants to control Medicare payment rates in the future instead of Congress. Once physicians start taking early retirement to avoid all this aggregation, and the baby boomers start developing all the chronic conditions associated with older age, just watch the waiting lists for a doctor's appointment explode.

    26. David W Johnson, Ft says:

      I'm glad to see the healthcare bill grinding to a crawl. Bringing this monster out of the dark and into the light shows how out of touch the president and congress is with every day life.

      They should mandate themselves and their families into this bill and they'll see quickly it's not for them either.

    27. Jenny Clark, Vancouv says:

      Oh, America! It is SO sad to watch you, the once great land of the free and entrepreneurial, being governed by a junior senator who knows not what he does. The most left-leaning senator you could find, who had never, before becoming President, made an executive decision of any kind, now pushing your country over the brink of socialism, doing his level best to foist socialized health care on your citizenry, and he hasn't even read the bill!

      Oh, America! Stand up and yell "NO – STOP IT NOW!!!" Soon it will be too late, and your once proud country will have joined the socialist hordes of Europe in their downward slide.

      Watching this from outside the country is SO sad….

    28. John, Boston says:

      Seriously, the President spends his time talking with bloggers?!?! Thats awesome, I guess he has nothing better to do

    29. Lisa, Maryland says:

      Please, people, contact your elected officials and voice your opinion! Very easy, only takes a few minutes.. .www.house.gov and http://www.senate.gov.

      This is OUR money and we have the right and responsibility to determine how it is spent!!!

    30. Mr Ed, Indianapolis says:

      I am a born and raised citizen of the USA and absolutely against the intrusion of Big Government in our life. Mr Obama is more concerned about pushing his socialistic agenda than hearing the voice of a citizen. I am telling everyone I know to call your representatives and tell them to stop this ridiculous deception. This is taxation without representation, which I believe is why our founding fathers fought for our liberty.

    31. Stanley The Janitor says:

      does it really matter if he read it or not? I mean he is a really busy guy and it is a lot of words to read, is it not? the people need the health care and the peoples voted for him to change stuff, right? So what be the problem when he does what he elected to do and that be change stuff. I mean look at how much bush lied. He did not even try to help us and change things. I support our president. He is trying real hard. We can afford to pay for this health care bill also, are we americans not the most wealthy peoples in the world…duh ..yes we are so I think we can afford it.

    32. J.C. Hughes, Texas says:

      Obama's the pitch man, the hook for a leftist sales job. So why be concerned about details? As far as I'm concerned, all this talk about nationalizing healthcare is empty political rhetoric directing the nation toward a nightmarish disaster. I'm a Non-GOP Texas Republican. Mine is an anti-federalist ideology. Although I avoid political parties, there is a growing American Federationists Party at http://anti-federalist.org. I invite fellow independents to support congressional candidates that uphold a platform inline with the anti-federalist's position in 2010.

    33. Jacked11, Plymouth M says:

      What a power grab, Health Insurance Policies have been regulated by the States, ie, States determine what policies contain, what mandates are covered, licensing of companies and agents etc. The driving force of health insurance costs is the mandates imposed by the states to cover certain conditions, pregnancy even if your a senior, drug and alcohol addiction, mental illness invitro fertilization etc. The solution is to provide all insured to be able to pick and choose their benefits in a plan, cafeteria style. There were plans like that in the 80s catastrophic coverage with a high deductible at a reduced premium. These plans were very simple and made the insured more responsibly aware of the costs and benefits. We have to remember "we value what we pay for and pay for what we value.

    34. Roger Weber USA says:

      Fed up with Obama? Check out this funny song at: http://www.myspace.com/rogerweber

      You'll feel better.

    35. Harry, Illinois says:

      If Medicare and Medicade are going to drive this country broke, can U imagine what this program will do, only sooner.

      The President has put his faith in dangling puppets who have no idea what they are doing. They are just interested in lining their pockets with lobbyist and special interest contributions.

      This is why I encourage ALL American's to go to the polls next election year and vote them ALL OUT.

      They do NOT represent what is fair and just for the American Public. Because if they did, they would be included in the program as well.

    36. Todd A Scottsdale says:

      This president will absolutely destroy whatever is left of our country if we give him the chance. I thought the first few months were surprising, now it's all breathtaking. We had better fight…

    37. Bob in St. Louis, MO says:

      This national healthcare is a joke! How many bills have gone through the House and Senate, unread! It's enough to make me want to go ballistic on Sen. Claire McCaskill her in Missouri! She'e just become another mouthpiece for this moron of a president and her democrapic party! 2010 can't come soon enough for me so I can start voting some of these bums out of office. I'll never, ever, support the democrapic party again as long as I live! They have shamed our country and the future generations will look back on this period in our history with disdain and loathing! The tax burden on taxpayers will be tremendous, repressive and unsustainable. Hard work and success will account for nothing!

    38. Joe Finer, Raleigh, says:

      Does "community rating" mean the same as it did to banks in the CRA (ala ACORN)?

    39. Mark, OK says:

      Where are all the democrats who voted for Obama? Why aren't they filling these comment sections with their glorious praise for Lord Obama now. They sure were plentiful before the election. Now I see only Republicans and conservatives every where I read comments. COME OUT COWARDS AND SHOW YOURSELVES!! DEFEND YOUR FALSE SAVIOUR NOW!!

    40. Doug P., Los Angeles says:

      Note to Eileen: It was his dog, so he took his time. However, the health care is just for you, me, and ther rest of the public. Obama and members of the Senate and Congress would be able to opt out of what some are trying to force on us. Why should he bother to read it? He simply wants to control it and us.

      I agree that his audacity and arrogance are amazing.

      I too pray that this insanity fails big time, along with the rest of Obama's socialist agenda.

    41. Tomas says:

      Stunning, frightening incompetence.

      But not surprising.

      Other than campaigning, what HAS Obama DONE since January? He doesn't even read HIS own Health Care Bill????

      America, have you HAD ENOUGH YET?

      -

    42. Mayers, Eatontown, N says:

      With Obama, everything is an emergency. It's urgent; we have to get it passed before anyone notices how terrible the Bill really is! And our march toward socialism continues.

      Hope is not a Strategy.

      Hope, Change, Failure. . .

    43. Gail Smith, Aiken, says:

      Please pray for this nation. It's our only hope. Politicians don't listen. Our government is corrupt. They are all in it for personal gain. They all have their own agenda. There is more time and effort spent fighting between political parties than in working for the people of this country. Government of the people, by the people, and for the people has perished from this nation.

      Pray, pray, pray! The truth will prevail.

    44. JLC, Orlando says:

      The word games continue. You will be able to keep your "CURRENT" coverage. He has never mentioned however if you change jobs you will not be able to pick up your new employers coverage. Once you drop your "CURRENT" coverage you will have to go on to their Socialize Medicine plan.

    45. Jim says:

      TRIP TO MARS …. GREAT IDEA…SEND OBAMA, PELOSI, REID ON 1 WAY TICKET.

    46. Norwalk, OH says:

      As occurred with the stimulus bill that was passed with probably no member of congress actually reading it, those who vote for a bill without having read it should be impeached and thrown out of their elected position, including the President himself. What hypocrisy to advocate without really knowing what one is advocating! The greatest pollution problem in the USA is the rotten core of deceit and corruption that exists from the highest to the lowest levels of political power across the spectrum of government, business, family relationships, sports, media, entertainment, etc. The widespread lack of integrity will destroy our society from within. Decent people crave justice and righteousness.

    47. Don Medbery, Dover N says:

      I love what Eileen F. Jackson, White Plains N.Y.wrote. all the time Prez. O'Bama took to choose a family dog far outweighs the time he has taken to read the off this planet Health Bill which is NOT ANY! He has'nt read it!!! He only has the talking points, unfamiliar with the FACTS He can't be trusted, too many lies.smoke & mirrors.Same applies to when he was in the U.S. Senate, and the Illinois Legislature….too much time in chicago. America, is starting to see through his total lack of management-business skills

    48. RJ Illinois says:

      So he is trying to railroad something he doesn't even know what it is about?????? AMAZING. why the big rush??? He has railroaded everything through on the fast track. Slow down. I wish the news media would finally come forth with some truth instead of glorifying EVERYTHING that Obama does or says.

      This health care bill MUST FAIL!!! oR WE ARE ALL DOOMED.

      You all know he wants to cut medicare to help pay for this. Doctors are already refusing to take medicare patients because they don't get enough money. Old people may as well just go shoot themselve now.

    49. SRW RCKWLL, TX says:

      When the House, Senate, gov't workers will not have to be on this program is telling. BO will decide DR pay. The WH will evaluate seniors to see if it is a waste of time to give them health care. Well at last I know what BO meant by shovel ready jobs.

    50. Bill Reuter, Winder, says:

      Why are you complaining about the President not reading the bill?

      A) Nobody read the "Stickittodemulus Bill" and it passed both Houses of Congress and was signed into law.

      B) The Obama Health (Don't Care'Bout You, 'cause I KEEP MINE!) Tax Bill isn't available to READ yet and it won't be either if Pelosi and Reid have anything to say about it.

      C) In this case, the BLIND are LEADING the BLIND and the MO' rons are following……

    51. Bob, Columbia Statio says:

      We need to keep the pressure on, folks. We must relentlesly contact our representatives in opposition to this mess. They are dummying the numbers to increase the "approval" polls on this bill by only appealing to the people that already bought into this garbage. I agree that something needs to be done to improve our health care system, but they need to take their time and do it right, unlike the "porkulus" bill, the auto industry bailout, the budget, and the other items that have been passed without taking the time to even read them.

    52. Brad O, Salt Lake Ci says:

      The Prez. took even longer to pick a church. He just knows he has to pass everything asap before his approval ratings tank even farther.

      I hope he looks at the future big picture, and doesn't just do what he's told to.

    53. Marc, Eastchester says:

      Doesn't matter whether you favor the bills making their ways through Congress or not. Any one of my high school students could tell you that "I am not familiar with" is a colloquialism for "it doesn't exist." Regardless, not only did H.R. 3200l not outlaw private insurance; it was proposed and shot down several years ago. Obama wasn't even President at the time. Obama specifically speaks about the current bill this in your third paragraph.

      Discuss issues; don't spew nonsense that is then embraced and repeated by uninformed readers.

    54. Jerry, Michigan says:

      "…I haven't read it, I don't know what's in it, but enough talk already–this must be passed NOW!" If he's truly that uninformed, naive and wreckless with OUR money, then I have a few bridges to sell him.

    55. Steve, Lorain, Ohio says:

      There are lies, damned lies, and then the father of lies, Obama.

    56. kathrynf, NC says:

      And once the dog breed was decided, he promptly named it BO after himself! Creepy.

      I would like to read the gov't insurance plan being pushed just to know what the exclusions are and what the deductible is….does it cover maternity? dental? all pre-existing conditions? substance abuse treatment? mental illnesses? Is it free coverage for all people, with any and all conditions cradle to grave?????

    57. Ronnie Van Zant says:

      I love it. Seven months in, and he's already going down in flames. New bumper sticker: "I'm Glad He's Failing."

    58. Linda McNeely/Brando says:

      Please pass this info on to everyone in your email addresses! People need to see and hear that Wonder Boy is finally admitting he doesn't even read the legislation. Folks, we're on the verge of losing our freedoms to the thugocracy of Obama and it's up to US to stop the madness. If you aren't convinced by now that he does NOT have the good of America at heart, then you probably never will be. But, those of us, Repubs, Dems and others, who are investigating for ourselves, know beyond a shadow of a doubt that socialism is NOT how we want to live. Please keep passing information like this along so that Americans will know the truth. You know we cannot depend on the main stream news media to tell the truth, so it is up to all of us to get the facts out there. Even the most die-hard lefties can't argue with the audio of Obama stating he's not familiar with this legislation.

    59. Joseph J Bilello, Gu says:

      This President is too busy, and can't be bothered

      with reading any bills, minor details such as Tax and Cap and Healthcare,are not important, what is important is Date Night, and if the Whitehouse has enough Kobi beef for his family and his guests. He and his Secretery of State must spend all there time traveling around the world apologizing for this country for all the crimes we have committed.

    60. Joan, Niskayuna, NY says:

      Obviously Obama knows what the main goal of the bill is… power and control over the health industry.

      He doesn't really care about your health at all

      And he will certainly not admit that.

    61. Paul, San Antonio, T says:

      I agree the President seems to take more time with picking dogs and churches then he does in deciding the fate of the American people. I guess if he only cared about America as much as he does himself we would be okay. I can only HOPE that people will start to see him for what he really is and begin the process of real CHANGE. Vote both parties out. Time to push the reset button.

    62. Scott, Hastings MN says:

      Please show up peacefully at your state capitol on Labor Day..bring family, friends and neighbors. Bring U.S. Flags. Make signs to share with the politicians. They aren't reading emails, letters, blogs or listening to phone calls. The media will have to show up! Use Common Sense and be peaceful and polite with your homemade signs and verbal opionions. It's a good day when many don't work and for a change the average American can express how they feel and what they believe in!

    63. Susan Phildelphia says:

      Obama wants to destroy the best healthcare system in the world. Have you ever heard of anyone going to the UK or Canada for treatment? Of course not, they come to the United States. If you want to save money…support support tort reform. That is something Obama will not do, because the trial lawyers are one of the biggest supporters of the Democrats.

    64. Marcus, Chicago says:

      I went to Danny Davis's website (my current US House Rep) and direct from his website on the U.S. National Health Care Act (1/26/09)

      "It prohibits an institution from participating unless it is a public or nonprofit institution. Allows nonprofit health maintenance organizations (HMOs) that deliver care in their own facilities to participate and gives patients the freedom to choose from participating physicians and institutions.

      It prohibits a private health insurer from selling health insurance coverage that duplicates the benefits provided under this Act. It allows such insurers to sell benefits that are not medically necessary, such as cosmetic surgery benefits and sets forth methods to pay institutional providers of care and health professionals for services. It prohibits financial incentives between HMOs and physicians based on utilization. "

      To me this sure sounds like a move to take all business away from the private sector for standard coverages and procedures. Any coverage provided under Obamacare CANNOT be offered in the private sector. Therefore taking billions of dollars away from the private sector in an attempt to raise funds for Obamacare. This program will NEVER be successful. There is not one sector that the government has ever run or taken over that has ever been a success and actually created a surplus rather than run the taxpayers deeper into the red.

      I'm sure the next move is to legalize the 10M illegals aliens so they can tap into the new program costing us even more, while securing a 10M more votes for the next election. $100B a year is spent on "free" programs including healthcare, education, and social security for illegals, all of who have not paid a dime into the system. Certainly contributes to the reason the US is bankrupt in all 3 areas and our kids are learning at levels far below those around the world.

      Too many ignorant people who thought they would vote for "change" and "hope" in a candidate they know nothing about. Empty promises is only going to leave us with "change" in our pockets and the "hope" we can one day reverse all the damage this administration has and will do to our country.

    65. P McBee - TX says:

      Hopefully this is an indication of how screwed up our health care will be when they take a simple M or F question to now answering a bunch of questions to "develop standards of measuring gender" – does government ever simplify anything???

    66. Bill Oswald, Grand J says:

      It isn't about Healrh Care, it's about Control. What better way to blackmail the American people, then to be in charge of their Health Care. Having the power to make life and death decisions over people, gives them the power to turn America into a second class Country run by the Elites.

      Obama knows what's in the Bill and also knows it's okay for a politician to lie. "The end justifies the means". Where have you heard that before? Wake-up America!! If we don't stop all this Spend, Spend nonsense we are on a road to hell.

    67. jack north says:

      Did you ever consider he is not familiar with that because it is not in the bill. I like that we take the word of some guy from Maine who says he read there was such a provision…have any of you actually read it yourselves?

      In fact there is no final bill even written.

      Come on folks, the system is broken, the answer is not to do nothing.

    68. Jerry Engelken Bren says:

      Lets hope and pray that H.R. 3200 never sees the light of day!

      P.S. to Mr. Bilbo…."sites" was in paragraph 4…not III.

    69. Darcie Sheehan, St L says:

      To Eileen of NY: Great point about the dog comment. I'm in awe of this guys audacity as well.

    70. Sandra, Miami says:

      My stomach turns My breath is shallow My LIFE is in Obama's hands? GOD Forbid it!

    71. Robert NYC says:

      so how is this different from when he signed an 'Economic Recovery Act' without knowing what was in it? He is clueless when it comes to the damage he is doing. he just likes to think he is helping with delusions of grandeur and make speeches every day.

    72. Eddie MacIsaac, San says:

      Obama admits he is not familiar with {fill in the blank].

      Reader may add as many as thought necessary.

    73. Reality says:

      It's time for the masses to wake up and realize the man they thought was for a positive change is in fact nothing more than a puppet in the hands of money and power. Actions speak far louder than words, thusfar we have seen the actions of socialism and arrogance. Socialist movement of putting more into the hands of our gov't and less in the hands of it's citizens. The arrogance is visible every time a serious question is laughed off as ridiculous or a MAJORLY important question is bypassed with a sorry excuse such as the one above. Are you listening yet people? Are you seeing that it's not just "crazy Republicans" making things up or speaking out against this man? It's in front of your eyes, OPEN THEM BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

      Or is it already?

    74. Chucky Cheese says:

      Eileen, it's the "audacity" of dope!

    75. buck chaney, savanna says:

      Whenever a salesman offers his product/service for "a limited time only" or "you have to act now to take advantage of our offer" you know they do not want you to investigate other offers or examine their offer in detail. Just as past "fast-track" trade agreements have resulted in the decline (and inevitable destruction) of our manufacturing base, the president and congress want to ram bills through when few people have knowledge of their contents/ramifications. In the case of health care reform, Obama "does know" that this is another step toward socializing America – his agenda, damn the details. I have heard not a peep relating to tort reform in any discussions of this "reform". Why is it that when factors, such as illegal immigration associated costs – slightly less than 20% of the California budget or tort actions – 30% of health care costs, are insignificant? On the other hand, CO2 emissions -000.2% of the atmosphere are dooming the planet (and Obama's Commerce Secretary wants US taxpayers to pay for China's carbon offsets).

    76. Penny Shapiro says:

      America is being run by a Gangster Government mob now.

    77. David Colpo, Tuscalo says:

      According to Boston Globe's Jeff Jacoby, cited by Les Kinsolving of wnd.com:

      "Hoyer, a Maryland Democrat, is the majority leader of the House of Representatives. At a news conference last week, he was talking about the health care overhaul being drafted on Capitol Hill, and a reporter asked whether he would support a pledge committing members of Congress to read the bill before voting on it and to make the full text of the legislation available to the public online for 72 hours before the vote takes place.

      "That, reported CNN News, gave Hoyer the giggles: The majority leader found the idea of the pledge humorous, laughing as he responded to the question. 'I'm laughing because … I don't know how long this bill is going to be, but it's going to be a very long bill,' he said.

      "Then came one of those classic Washington gaffes that Michael Kinsley famously defined as 'when a politician tells the truth.' Hoyer conceded that if lawmakers had to carefully study the bill ahead of time, they would never vote for it. 'If every member pledged to not vote for it if they hadn't read it in its entirety, I think we would have very few votes,' he said. The majority leader was declaring, in other words, that it is more important for Congress to pass the bill than to understand it."

      Obama's illiteracy extends to Congress. They can't be bothered with actually reading legislation. They need all the time they can get to take over every aspect of our lives. Wait till you see the bill that follows this, which will determine everything we serfs will be allowed to eat and drink…you know, to keep health costs down.

    78. David,NC says:

      Of course he didn't know what was in it,neither does anyone else. Obama only knows what's fed to him by his gang of thugs slithering around the WH. This guy is a bigger fraud than Carter was,impeach him or make him resign,one way or the other he's got to go.

    79. Charles Ingwalson, E says:

      Until Congressmen and women, their families and their staffs plus the White House, it's staff and their families are willing to join the public and agree to be a part of any health plan these people concoct I don't believe a thing they tell me about how good this plan will be for me!!!

    80. Dave Tooley, Fitchbu says:

      For the life of me, how can anyone consider voting on a bill this large without reading it and understanding it. Why can't people get into these press conferences and ask hard questions, the press is just a bad as congress. They are a joke and people should realize this and vote them out. I hope this fails big time.

    81. DZ - Atlanta, GA says:

      This president is not about fixing anything. He seems to be intent on transforming this once great country into what he wants it to be. Why would he be for overhauling everything, as opposed to fixing the aspects of each of these issues in a targeted way?? He's becoming quite the little dictator.

    82. Coady Doyle, Charlot says:

      This health care plan is a nightmare. If the people in Washington think is's so great let's see them give up they're special taxpayer funded health care plan and use this government insurance they're trying to foist on the rest of us.

    83. Garu says:

      Bigots!

      Obmama is doing the BEST he can! His great service to this nation will vault the USA to greater heights. Believe!

    84. Rachael, Oxford, UK says:

      Typical. No mention of the fact that if 83.4 million people constitute 48.4% of all those with private health insurance, that leaves 131 MILLION people without private health insurance. When is the American public going to realise that the 'autonomy' they're so fond of citing does not extend to not being able to afford the most basic of healthcare on the grounds that at least the Federal government isn't providing it?!

    85. Lee M. Baltimore, Ma says:

      Will the "other" media channels pick this story up? This is stunning.

    86. Chris Grecko, Pittsb says:

      It is time for impeachment due to incompetency. Can it get any worse?

    87. donna babbitt says:

      Seriously, oh painfully seriously, I ask who actually is governing? Does Obama have ADD? No wonder he hasn't had time to read the bill, he is constantly running.

      His frenetic schedule leaves no time to govern, read bills and such…………….he must be in front of a camera at all times or he will melt.

      Are presidents required to take drug tests?

    88. Bob Watson says:

      You know, it's great to see more and more people coming around to the realization that this administration is completely incompetent (well, worse, but we'll leave it at that for now), but it's sad that back in Nov. a solid majority of the country couldn't see it then too.

    89. Jim Newcomer Eagan, says:

      If this proposed health care plan is the savior that it is porported to be, why don't we just roll the Federal Employees Health Program into it as well? Come to think of it why don't they participate in the SS Program just as the rest of us have to?

    90. Joan O'Grady, says:

      You leave out Union members who are exempt from this plan. They will not be forced into the government plan since the Union gave their dues money to the Obama Campaign. It's payback time. Of course,this also goes for members of Congress, all of whom keep their golden package of health insurance. How stupid does Obama think we are?

    91. jacksmith says:

      AMERICA’S NATIONAL HEALTHCARE EMERGENCY!

      It’s official. America and the World are now in a GLOBAL PANDEMIC. A World EPIDEMIC with potential catastrophic consequences for ALL of the American people. The first PANDEMIC in 41 years. And WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES will have to face this PANDEMIC with the 37th worst quality of healthcare in the developed World.

      STAND READY AMERICA TO SEIZE CONTROL OF YOUR NATIONAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.

      We spend over twice as much of our GDP on healthcare as any other country in the World. And Individual American spend about ten times as much out of pocket on healthcare as any other people in the World. All because of GREED! And the PRIVATE FOR PROFIT healthcare system in America.

      And while all this is going on, some members of congress seem mostly concern about how to protect the corporate PROFITS! of our GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT NATIONAL DISGRACE. A PRIVATE FOR PROFIT DISGRACE that is in fact, totally valueless to the public health. And a detriment to national security, public safety, and the public health.

      Progressive democrats the Tri-Caucus and others should stand firm in their demand for a robust government-run public option for all Americans, with all of the minimum requirements progressive democrats demanded. If congress can not pass a robust public option with at least 51 votes and all robust minimum requirements, congress should immediately move to scrap healthcare reform and request that President Obama declare a state of NATIONAL HEALTHCARE EMERGENCY! Seizing and replacing all PRIVATE FOR PROFIT health insurance plans with the immediate implementation of National Healthcare for all Americans under the provisions of HR676 (A Single-payer National Healthcare Plan For All).

      Coverage can begin immediately through our current medicare system. With immediate expansion through recruitment of displaced workers from the canceled private sector insurance industry. Funding can also begin immediately by substitution of payroll deductions for private insurance plans with payroll deductions for the national healthcare plan. This is what the vast majority of the American people want. And this is what all objective experts unanimously agree would be the best, and most cost effective for the American people and our economy.

      In Mexico on average people who received medical care for A-H1N1 (Swine Flu) with in 3 days survived. People who did not receive medical care until 7 days or more died. This has been the same results in the US. But 50 million Americans don’t even have any healthcare coverage. And at least 200 million of you with insurance could not get in to see your private insurance plans doctors in 2 or 3 days, even if your life depended on it. WHICH IT DOES!

      If President Obama has to declare a NATIONAL STATE OF EMERGENCY to rescue the American people from our healthcare crisis, he will need all the sustained support you can give him. STICK WITH HIM! He’s doing a brilliant job.

      THIS IS THE BIG ONE!

      THE BATTLE OF GOOD Vs EVIL!

      Join the fight.

      Contact congress and your representatives NOW! AND SPREAD THE WORD!

      God Bless You

      Jacksmith – WORKING CLASS

    92. R, USA says:

      Thanks for the article. I just emailed Barry O and asked him how he could possibly be pushing, arm twisting and demanding that his health care plan be passed yet cannot identify the contents of it.

      I don't think I'm holding my breath to wait for an answer.

    93. Shawwn Daggett, Seat says:

      I don't believe Obama really cares about the health of the nation, or it's people. (see "Cloward-Piven stategy") This proposal of his will choke the fiscal life out of our economy. Not to mention the rest of his "grab the cash policies"

    94. ZippyMoonbat, Mars P says:

      In my best Elmer Fudd voice, be very,very afraid.

    95. Ken T, Odenton MD says:

      Yes, Eileen, and get ready for another "shovel ready" speech and press conference on Wednesday.

    96. carolyn brooks, will says:

      Your rules of engagement of commentary are not clear. How can you not personally attack, or comment on a persons behavior, of the man who has caused this whole situation? While I agree that obscene language has no place in the commentary, a closer look at his "Motives" might explain some of his actions.

      Please remember, "A persons actions may not always imply their intent". For example, Mr. Obama while chastising the members of the NAACP in a recent speech to teach their children to be more responsible in their "sexual behavior" and not produce children out of wedlock, at the same time, he has implemented the most "open looped" new legislation to open the floodgates for Aid to Dependent Children which of course will encourage this very irresponsible behavior. I believe this is a good example of, "Actions do not always imply intent".

      My background in the field of Psychology; in particular, Criminal Behavior Sciences, Abnormal Psychology, Developmental Childhood Disorders, Sociopathological Disorders, Disassociative Personality Disorders, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and Megalomania, gives me a unique perspective into critiques of personalities that might explain otherwise obscure motivational behaviors. Mr. Obama is a conundrum of a very dysfunctional upbringing and is trying to satisfy many ghostly masters in his childhood psyche that he cannot leave behind. Unfortunately, we are also caught up in this nightmarish web of his.

    97. Deegie says:

      one word: SOCIALISM! another 3 words WRONG FOR AMERICA!

    98. Spence says:

      Obama is a joke, this health insurance plan is a joke. The man is taking this country down a toilet. He's a liar and a con-man.

    99. Greg, San Diego, CA says:

      Eileen J. wrote: "I am absolutely amazed that President Obama took more time in considering what breed of dog to get for a family pet than the time he is allowing Congress to consider this HUGE National Health Care bill."

      He still cannot make his mind up as to which Church to attend in the DC area, yet wants Congress to make up its mind on health care by the end of next month!

      But, it's not about him! Bull.

    100. Dave, Phoenix, AZ says:

      Uh… does anyone remember that the Executive branch has no part in creating legislation, and that the Legislative branch has the sole authority to create it?

      Yes, he is pushing healthcare reform. Yes, the President signs the bill into law. No, the President does not have any control over what is placed in the bill, and the content of the bill can continually change until the bill passes the Senate. Why read and re-read the damn thing and not wait until the final version comes out? THEN after reading the final version, he can choose to sign or veto it. Even then, remember that Congress can still force the bill into law.

      The people to really be angry at are your legislators.

      Remember, the Executive is only the enforcement arm of the law.

    101. JinRei, New York says:

      This is the straw that broke the camel's back. It is unAmerican having to pay for other people's stuff. Here in New York, the carckheads are getting everything for free plus a stimulus check.

    102. Gary, Orlando says:

      He doesn't know what the bill says, but he wants it passed. This is par for the course for his admininstration. They want every bill to pass without any of us knowing what it says because at the end of the day when we do find out what is in it, we will all regret it. Look for your take home pay to be lower…if your employer doesn't lay people off…and look for the quality of your care to be substantially lower…if you can even see a doctor.

    103. dave, houston says:

      And yet the fraud continues to lie about keeping your insurance…..it will become illegal if that moronic bill passes….

      But the big thing is that it is a blatant example of his attitude that the public is so stupid they won't notice he is lying through his teeth.

    104. Patricia, Atlanta, G says:

      I cannot believe this administration…I can't sleep anymore. This constant barrage of mind numbing legislation that no one reads before passing is maddening. Obama's only goal is to bankrupt and destroy everything Americans hold dear. He is indeed a fascist and is not even trying to hide it any longer. Any senator or congressperson who votes for Obama's fascist bills will never see re-election and that is guaranteed!

    105. Mike says:

      I am actually surprised he is ignorant of the House bill and all the HUGE changes in medicine it entails.

      I really don't get this guy. Either he is very naive or he is bent on ruining us for good.

      In either case it's bad.

      2012 cannot come soon enough.

    106. Darrell Genthner Lak says:

      Let's extrapolate the numbers again…42 million uninsured with 10 million being illegal and another 15 million that can afford insurance and choose not to make the payments and get the coverage. Now left with 22 million to cover and we are going to destroy the globe's best health care for 8% of the population….why does the media not report the correct information? Liberal Agenda!!!!

    107. Matt says:

      This is the stupidest article I have ever seen. Is Obama required to memorize the entire 1000 page bill? He wasn't sure of the exact provision that the blogger was referring to. Jesus Christ, whoever wrote this article can't even spell: "We are familiar with the passage IBD sites"! This writer is an idiot.

    108. DUGinFLA says:

      What a jerk. I have had so much work done on my 3 year-old daughter since she was born and my healthcare could not be better. What a communist jerk!

    109. Rein Keskula, Philad says:

      I would be willing to go along with any plan put forth by the administration–so long as the law requires that ALL Americans, including the President, members of Congress,Senators,Federal employees, etc., can have no greater coverage than that available under "Obamacare."

      In other words, no one can have a more comprehensive medical plan, even if they want to pay more for it.

      With that proviso attached, I will bet that the Pres. and all of our so-called "representatives"

      will be completely versed on every provision of the proposed legislation!

    110. Judy W. Wisconsin says:

      I hope the American people wake up before any more change happens. The people that voted for him did not understand that the change was to a Socialist run country, run by Obama, Emmanual, Pelosi and Reid. Wake up before it is too late.

    111. Sallie, Seattle says:

      Come on push it through fast before they finish reading it! We have the numbers, go, go, go!!!

      Any democrats that break on the vote will be politically destroyed… we'll add you to the Palin pool party… LOL!!!

    112. John Scott, Atlanta says:

      Quote Alex Neff – "I don’t think any of them know what provisions they’re voting on!"

      Truer words have never been spoken. They all have handlers and vote how they are told to vote. You rarely get specifics from a Congressman when they defend their votes. You get platitudes – "This is good for the working men and women of this nation." Never do you hear why. Because they don't know and don't care.

    113. carolyn brooks, will says:

      Your rules of engagement of commentary are not clear. How can you not personally attack, or comment on a persons behavior, of the man who has caused this whole situation? While I agree that obscene language has no place in the commentary, a closer look at his "Motives" might explain some of his actions.

      Please remember, "A persons actions may not always imply their intent". For example, Mr. Obama while chastising the members of the NAACP in a recent speech to teach their children to be more responsible in their "sexual behavior" and not produce children out of wedlock, at the same time, he has implemented the most "open looped" new legislation to open the floodgates for Aid to Dependent Children which of course will encourage this very irresponsible behavior. I believe this is a good example of, "Actions do not always imply intent".

      My background in the field of Psychology; in particular, Criminal Behavior Sciences, Abnormal Psychology, Developmental Childhood Disorders, Sociopathological Disorders, Disassociative Personality Disorders, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and Megalomania, gives me a unique perspective into critiques of personalities that might explain otherwise obscure motivational behaviors. Mr. Obama is a conundrum of a very dysfunctional upbringing and is trying to satisfy many ghostly masters in his childhood psyche that he cannot leave behind. Unfortunately, we are all caught up in this nightmarish web of his.

    114. paul collins.the vil says:

      The only way either a good health bill or any other legislation will be passed is for the congress and governmemtofficials to be subject to it.As long as they consider themselves exempt they don't care about us.

    115. Cody Larsen, San Fra says:

      Reverend Wright said during the campaign that Obama is a politician who will say anything to get what he wants.

      For the first time, Reverend Wright was correct.

      This socialized health care plan is diabolical. And it appears the President of the United States is as well.

    116. John M Mobile, AL says:

      So he is trying to ramrod through a bill he has never seen, sounds familiar. It's called the stib-a-lus package. This is a bill, that no congressman pushing it, is willing to take part in. That tells me everything I need to know.

    117. Elena O. Columbia, S says:

      Praying for you President Obama. Don't worry about the haters.

    118. Dennis, Jacksonville says:

      Obviously some Senators have read it and have taken measures to opt out of the proposed health care legislation…

      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12478694616576036

      I'm so glad we have "the most open administration ever." Oh wait…we don't. Never mind.

    119. Bill Long-Maryville, says:

      I strongly believe that we should take care of those in this nation that "CAN NOT" take care of them selves (i.e.) the elderly and mentally/physically challenged. All of the governments programs are not funded by the government, tax dollars funds these programs, the incompetent government just runs them. I want this legislation to fall flat on its face, I want the American people to wake up and remove these idiot’s that keep growing the federal government. I, as an American tax payer am fed up with our federal government and want some real solutions to our problems. Throwing tax dollars at our problems does not solve them. WAKE UP AMERICA!

    120. Girard, Texas says:

      Well, we're all finding out that experience DOES matter and the little community organizer has none…………

      The presidency is not the place for on the job training. Nor is going around the world apologizing for America being so great….

    121. Dale Clubb Charlotte says:

      It's all about ego….HIS ego.

    122. Matt Budde says:

      Why change a Health Care System that 250 million people like? Why create a crisis when 15% of the population do not have health coverage?

      Answer: The largest first step towards the leftist vision of a global 'world view' as espoused by Obama, Kennedy, Cronkite, Marx, Lenin, Mao and others where the government decides not the people.

    123. Troy Lamberth, River says:

      And after 6 months in Washington, he's still deciding which church to attend. I would think he'd need to take at least 6 months to figure out a trillion-plus healthcare program? (At least he could read the thousand page bill in that time and know what he's pressing for.)

    124. Cal Troutman, Emmaus says:

      This guy (Obama) is scary. He is well on his way toward ruining our economy totally. I loved the comment that he took more time picking a dog than he has, so far, in the amount of time he has allowed Congress to study the health care proposals. This nonesense of presenting legislation that is way to lengthy to read and with time lines way to limited to give even a speed reader a major challenge is becoming the norm. The result is bad legislation and tough luck for the American people.

    125. Wyatt, Omaha, NE says:

      Come on guys, give Obama a break. Why should the single biggest endorser of a massive bill even be FAMILIAR with one of the single most consequential and intrusive sections?? That's crazy republican talk!

    126. Frank, Santa Barbara says:

      People are misinterpreting, or promoting people to misinterpret one line of HR 3200, to make them think that the new health insurance legislation will

      prohibit private health care in the future.

      In particularly, they're looking at section 102 which protects the right of people to keep their current coverage and they're quoting one line

      entitled "Limitation on New Enrollment" which says:

      "Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first

      effective date of coverage is on or after the first day of Y1."

      They're then saying "Look, see. You won't be able to be enrolled in existing coverage after the new law goes into effect. They're making private insurance illegal."

      But, they're not mentioning the rest of the bill. In actuality, the bill establishes new standards for accessibility, coverage, and affordability.

      Existing group insurance plans will be grandfathered for 5 years after the new law goes into effect.

      What the misquoted legislation does is to prevent new enrollees from going into a grandfathered plan, with some exceptions for dependents of people on a

      grandfathered plan.

      New enrollees would have to go onto a plan that meets the new standards of accesibility, coverage and affordability, but it would still be a private insurance

      plan issued by a private insurance company.

    127. Linda, Providence Rh says:

      Most American did NOT sign on to the kind of change Obama wants. He smooth talked and lied his way into the White House. Hope and Change? Sick of the hate America tour – now even Hillary is overseas blaming America, sick of the gallop towards socialism, sick of the government bailouts, intrusions into the private sector – sick of it all! And it has only been 6 months! He was totally and utterly unqualified for this job, all he had was a leftist agenda a line of bull. Please go away!

    128. Brad, San Diego Ca says:

      Being that I am living in a state that already operates under a socialist style system cleverly disguised as a democracy this single payer government run health care plan is the stupidest idea to ever come out of Washington…followed closely by the income tax. Its time we the people force our Government back to the small and limited Federal Government our founding fathers envisioned. Get the Government off our back and out of our bank accounts. Lets pray the socialist themes of this administration only last for one term.

    129. Michelle says:

      I cannot WAIT until 2012 so that I can vote this joke for POTUS

    130. Bulldog, Irving, TX says:

      All I needed to see was the Mayo Clinic comments to be immediately concerned:

      The Mayo Clinic on the House health bill: “Although there are some positive provisions in the current House Tri-Committee bill … the proposed legislation misses the opportunity to help create higher-quality, more affordable health care for patients. In fact, it will do the opposite. … The real losers will be the citizens of the United States.”

    131. Michelle says:

      I cannot WAIT until 2012 so that I can vote this joke for a POTUS out of office!!

    132. J N Zolnierek says:

      I totallly agree with Eileen, he took more time getting the darn "First Puppy" then he has taken in any of his PUSH PUSH >> FAST FAST… HURRY HURRY … Gazillion $$ Bills .. Just who is this man and his "Change We Can Believe In!"

    133. Chas, GA says:

      It looks like Americans are awakening to the fact that a smooth talking huckster is the President.

    134. danlawlor says:

      People are finally realizing how liberal this president is. Remember he said in his address that CHANGE is coming. He was going to REMAKE America!! Nobody listened because they were too busy glorifying him. He has in 6 months destroyed this country and continues to try and do so even more. We now have a Democratic House & Senate, along with the President who don't even know whats in the bills there trying to FORCE on the American people. In my 61 yrs on this earth, I have never seen such inept politicians as this. This country is in real trouble and if it's citizens don't rise up forget America as we know it. I feel truly sorry for the younger generation, and there kids to follow. May God help us.

    135. Maryanne Kosmas, San says:

      LET IT FAIL, LET IT FAIL……

      Until this is truely looked into, after President Obamas latest remark, not familiar with the House Bill.

      I voted for him, only wanting change in this beautiful country of ours…I so regret it.

      Please don't let them rush thru this program

    136. linda .. michigan says:

      OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST .. AMERICA WAKE UP… HE WON'T BE ON SOCIALIZED MEDCINE… AND I DON'T WANT THE GOVERMENT IN MY MEDICAL BUISNESS… OBAMA IS DESTROYING AMERICA

    137. Rosemary Haas, Denvi says:

      When Obama was asked if he would forgo his insurance in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program and agree to enroll under the "public option" he refused to answer. People in Washington making laws should be exposed to the same consequences as the American public.

    138. Bob, Central Califor says:

      This is no longer a government "by the people or for the people". Obama's personal agenda trashes free enterprise. Our "big daddy" government is going to dictate when we wake in the morning, where we work (if there is any)and who we can vote for. He wants us to be totally dependent on the government. Why do we have to continually reinvent the wheel, rather than look at the results when other countries have tried and failed at the very things Obama thinks are necessary. We will no longer have a FREE SOCIETY!

    139. Some Dude, Washingto says:

      I am all for this "everyone is covered" type thing. But just like all socialistic ideas, they look good on paper but can never really be paid for fairly. Now you tell me that our fearless leader, whom many have dubbed the messiah, who is pushing this thing hasn't even taken the time to read it through? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. This is politics after all, everyone has an agenda. I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine right?

    140. Jim Bear says:

      I can't believe this ! This clown doesn't even know what is in the bill that i am sure he didn't even write ? Lots of duped people out there !! You know sometimes you "do" get what you pay for!!

    141. Joshua Hauser, Vanco says:

      I'm still wondering what federal power in the Constitution Democrats rely on for federal government authority to "overhaul" the medical system.

    142. Taylor says:

      I distinctly remember Obama promising that he wouldn't cater to special interests (which he did with the unions) and not raising taxes on people who make less than 250k (which the climate and healthcare bills will certainly do). I don't dislike the guy. I just don't really think he knows what he's talking about. Total lack of experience with a total lack of modesty leads to total idiocy. I hope this guy's power gets checked before he makes too many bad decisions

    143. Chris, Atlanta says:

      Obamacare would be disasterous for the United States. I am very glad to see it die in committee. I am sure it will be resurrected in a new form though. I look forward to seeing that die as well.

    144. BETTY LINAWEAVER says:

      STUPID——OBAMA SAYS IF YOU DON'T BUY HEALTH INS, YOU WILL GET HIT WITH A $2,500 PENALTY. IF YOU CAN NOT AFFORD TO BUY HEALTH INS. —YOU CAN NOT AFFORD A $2,500 PENALTY!!!!!!!!!

      I SAW ON FOX NEWS THIS MORNING A SPECIALIST SAID OVER "65 BILLION" IS MISPENT EACH YEAR IN MEDICARE. FOR MISC. REASONS. MOSTLY JUST PAYING WRONG CLAIMS. THIS IS HOW THE GOVERMNENT WORKS.

      I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH THE ADMINISTRATION COSTS ARE FOR MEDICARE. I ONCE HEARD IT WAS OVER 1/2. WHICH IS CRIMINAL!!!!!!!!!

    145. Ken, Boston says:

      The 5th largest component of our economy and he is having a bunch of bureaucrats revamp it and push it through in a few weeks. Absolutely frightening & un-American. It will have more add-ons than the last bill. God help us !!

    146. RB, Dallas, TX says:

      The only way any medical coverage bill should be acted on is if it includes the President, Congress and all other persons working for the government.

      Ask yourself why would these groups not subject themselves to the same law they want to apply to the rest of the country?

    147. Gary Jermyn, Sellers says:

      We must all do the same thing. Bombard our congress (which will be exempt from this law) and the President with eMails stating—-NO!

    148. H Clark, Louisiana says:

      It's not fair if polititions (those in Congress, the House, the Senate, the Representatives, the President)aren't made to participate in government-run or government-supported health care plans. If this is something that will be forced on us…then it should be forced on EVERYBODY. And, when you pay people to push something you want people to vote for…they aren't necessarily voting for it because they like it…they just need the money. I am so ready to hear the trumpet sound and for my Jesus to Rapture me up with the rest of His children and leave this world to all those that never ever think of anything else but their own GREED.

    149. whicket williams Kin says:

      All he wants is absolute control over whether you live or die. he doesn't care which, as long as he gets to say. If health cre passes we will be the most enslaved group in the world

    150. Rick, Nashville, TN says:

      I think that Obama knows exactly what's in the bill and what it says, he just can't defend certain parts of it. He was dodging the question because he knows if he answered honestly, people wouldn't like the answer. He is trying to regulate private insurance out of business and socialize our health care system, he just can't say that right now.

    151. mary suski westlake says:

      the bill should be fed into a teleprompter and the president could read it aloud at his leiseue

    152. yoopervan73, UP Mich says:

      Lets get rid of this menance to America. he does not even know what he is promoting. One Big Ass Mistake America. So how is that hope and change workinmg for you. This so called president is an imbecile

    153. PattyDaddy says:

      Is this transparency you can believe in or is Health Care above BO's pay grade? The plan(s) if passed won't be implemented till 2013, whats the hurry?

    154. Dave, Laguna Niguel, says:

      If we had a dependable, truth-telling news media, Obama's rating would be around 20%. All of a sudden a "community organizer" is ready to be dictator of the world! Excuse me, where do I get off this train?

    155. Chris D, Livonia MI says:

      Yet in a heavy-handed press briefing in the Rose Garden this afternoon, Obama again repeated "you will not loose your coverage" and "you will have a choice between private coverage and government coverage". He even went as far as to say that the government plan was "essential" to providing competition to the private health care ins. companies. But he fails to state that if you have private coverage and want to shop for a better rate/coverage you are out of luck. From d1/y1 of this new plan, if you are privately insured as an individual you have to stick with what you have or move to the government plan… no choice, no competition.

      If this was Pres. Bush – the accusation of "lying" to the American public would be overwhelming.

      President Obama – YOU ARE LYING!

    156. wanda keith, indiana says:

      Why would anyone be surprised that BHO does not know about the White House Bill? I would be more surprised if he did know.

    157. Flash, Biloxi, MS says:

      Anyone have any idea what took place in November 2008? Heard rumors that a presidential election was to take place; why did it not happen?

    158. Jeff Dunham, New Jer says:

      Maybe if he doesn't know about it, we should be giving Obama the benefit of the doubt on health care after all! http://bit.ly/19FaC0

    159. Alene says:

      This man and his arrogance is just mind boggling. Would he put his family on this insurance scam of a program that he seems to know nothing about. Just say no! He is truly the enemy within. This man is not an American. He is cold and calculating and laughing all the way into the white house.

    160. netstarman says:

      Well that proves it he is not all there in the head. Two tacos short of a combo plate. He doesn't study the house bill, Humanity bill, Understanding the people bill. He is not on the right track with the overspending,horrible health care bill, closing places that need to stay open. he is long gone on thistrain to nowhere.

    161. MattNaismithPhoenix, says:

      Why must he rush to spend Trillions and not even know what it will be wasted on? I am frightened for my kids!

    162. Healthcare for me says:

      SEC. 102. PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT COVERAGE.

      Just states that any NEWER INS policies are regulated and CANNOT be grandfathered in. Read the entire Subsection. Obviously someone doesn't understand the wording. Also states Ins Companies cannot raise premiuims just because they are genetically predisposed, or have a current/past health condition.

      "In no case shall an employment-based health plan in which the coverage consists only of one or more of the coverage or benefits described in clauses (i) through (iii) be treated as acceptable coverage under this division.."

      This is what he is misrepresenting this involves your benefits stopping when employment ends. The term Health Insurance Exchange is a tax identifier,"give individuals and families the opportunity to secure the health plans of their choice without losing tax benefits" – http://www.heritage.org/research/healthcare/wm123

    163. Finbar O'Shaunn says:

      Not familiar with the legislation? And you are surprised by this admission?

    164. Dr. Barry Levin, Los says:

      Those aren't even the worst arguments against the coming Health Care Reform.

      Here are a few truly terrifying points, which are largely going unmentioned:

      "Health Care Reform" = Mandatory Health Insurance And Government Control Over Your Health Decisions

      What most Americans do not realize is that this "health care reform" is not going to mean free health care or even MASS health care. Instead, it is going to mandate that you are forced to buy health insurance or suffer expensive penalties, it is going to mandate that the federal government will control your health options and it is even going to mandate that the federal government decides who lives and who dies in the name of Risk Assessment.

      Under the horrific health care bill unveiled by Democrats on Thursday, Americans who refuse to buy health insurance will be hit with heavy fines of more than $1,000. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals.

      The Congressional Budget Office estimates that these draconian fines will raise around 36 billion dollars over 10 years.

      In a revamped health care system envisioned by lawmakers, people would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now.

      Government run health care also means MANDATORY VACCINATIONS. The CDC is now saying that the U.S. may need 600 million doses of swine flu vaccine in order to vaccinate every man, woman and child in the United States this fall. These vaccinations will be largely untested, are based on patents applied for two years ago, and excuse the drug manufacturers, et al from ALL legal recourse due to injury or death as a result of the untested, mandatory vaccines.

      In the future, if your national health record shows that you have not taken the mandatory vaccines, then you will not be able to get any health care until you do. Too, there are Martial Law implications tied up in the bill, meaning possible forced incarceration in a detention / quarantine camp.

      But there are even more frightening health care changes that the Congress passed earlier this year.

      The truth is that the Democrats inserted provisions into one of the "stimulus" bills that gave the federal government COMPLETE control over your health care under a nationalized health care plan.

      The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, otherwise known as "the economic stimulus bill" contained almost all of the key elements of Tom Daschle's ideal nationalized health care system that he outlined in his 2008 book, Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.

      In his book, Daschle wrote that doctors will have to “learn to operate less like solo practitioners” and be willing to accept mandatory government controls and guidelines.

      Guess what?

      That is precisely what the bill forces doctors to do.

      The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 created a brand new bureaucracy called the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology. This new government organization will monitor all medical treatments to make sure that your doctor is prescribing the exact drugs and medical treatments that the federal government believes are "appropriate" and "cost effective".

      The bill also had a provision that hospitals and doctors which are not “meaningful users” of the new system will face serious penalties. The bill also says that the Secretary of Health and Human Service will be permitted to impose "more stringent measures of meaningful use over time". More stringent forcing of government-mandated drugs and procedures?

      The bill also radically changed the way that the health care system treats the elderly.

      Currently, Medicare pays for medical treatments for the elderly that are considered to be safe and effective.

      That is all changing now.

      Now, a cost effectiveness standard set by a Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research will apply.

      The goal of this "council" is to actually slow the development and use of new medications and treatments because they are driving up medical costs.

      In her recent editorial, Betsy McCaughey described Daschle's attitude towards the elderly in his book:

      He praises Europeans for being more willing to accept “hopeless diagnoses” and “forgo experimental treatments,” and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.

      She also goes on to describe how this new "council" would actually make choices to deny health care to elderly patients if they don't have enough "productive" years left:

      The Federal Council is modeled after a U.K. board discussed in Daschle’s book. This board approves or rejects treatments using a formula that divides the cost of the treatment by the number of years the patient is likely to benefit. Treatments for younger patients are more often approved than treatments for diseases that affect the elderly, such as osteoporosis.

      Do you understand what that means?

      It means that now the United States government decides who lives and who dies.

      But the American people cheered on Obama and the Democrats as they passed a horrible bill that the vast majority of them did not even read.

      To further infect the corpse of Health, the MOST TERRIFYING health law about to slam down on us is Codex Alimentarius, which goes into effect on December 31st of this year.

      Written by Big Pharma and policed by the UN, Codex Alimentarius will MANDATE EVERY BITE YOU TAKE. It's projected by WHO and the FAO to KILL 3 BILLION – with a "B" – people within the first few years of implementation.

      And you haven't heard a word about it because mainstream media has been completely mute on the subject.

      Google CODEX ALIMENTARIUS and NUTRIENTS – and prepare to be SHOCKED. Nutrients are considered TOXINS, and will be banned. Over 3275 pesticides, poisons and carcinogens are allowed. A bottle of Vitamin C is expected to cost $150 and require a prescription.

      Do the research, then call your congressmen and BEG them to SAVE DSHEA, our only protection against the coming Codex Alimentarius nightmare.

      To sign a petition against Codex, search

      Dr. Rima E. Laibow, MD

      Medical Director

      Natural Solutions Foundation

    165. sa philadelphia says:

      I wake up every day thinking it just can't get worse…and then it does. Obama is a socialist. He is trying to destroy our free market system. Every time I see him I just can't believe that he was elected. How many more days till his term is up and the nightmare is over?

    166. Virginia Gentleman says:

      Excellent article. Keep up the heat with some genuine light as well as flood Congressional staffers e-mails with this article.

    167. ed357 atlanta says:

      If Obama's Healthcare Reform is the best thing since sliced bread, then why isn't it mandatory that the three (Executive, Legislative, Judicial) branches of our government have the same governmental coverage that'll be used by our citizens………….

      Healthcare and Social Security will never get fixed until our government is put under the same system that covers our citizens.

    168. mike,mrosamilia@amer says:

      no

    169. Alene Campbell, Angl says:

      This president is mindboggling with his arrogance. It is all about him. He says it isn't: he says he wasn't aware of the tea parties, yet he can single out one little remark about waterloo and make it a tv special. Who is he kidding? I pray this scam fails.

    170. Bob Elliott, Anaheim says:

      The only "real change" that we are ever going to see that will be of benefit, is when we can get rid of the Democrat committee heads who are inept, or corrupt, or perverted, or, as in the case of Barney Frank, all three!

    171. Frank Bank, Des Moin says:

      Government Healthcare and Cap and Trade are the biggest scams the democrats can push. If these go through, I hope there is a revolution because this country needs a new direction not this socialist garbage.

    172. Ken H., Alabama says:

      President Obama should not even be president as he was put there by the liberal media and mindless idiots. Not one of them "listened" to what he was saying during his campaign. Us Republican/Conservatives kept telling the people what he was up to and planned to do but we were wrong. Well, it turns out we were very right. you get what you voted for.

    173. Dave Boyette, Russel says:

      It doesn't suprise me that Obama doesn't know what is in his health plan as I don't think he really cares as long as it will help extend government and his control over lives. I don't think any of the Democrats have a clue what is in it, they are into a "feel good" mode and this will make them think they have done something good. They don't care if they ruin the health care for most of us, just so they can feel good and say they did something.

      All that vote for any bill without knowing what is in it should be removed from office.

    174. Richard Cross, Salem says:

      I just called Senator Merkley's office in Washington. he is my Senator from the state of Oregon. I explained that the Health Care Bill would deny me the right to opt out of the program, forcing me to comply with a Government care program. I explained the Senators aid that I choose not to have health care even though I can afford it. He said, "Well other people want it so that's the way it goes". I asked if that was fair, he said "Thanks for the call, goodbye".

      They do not care what we think, they have an agenda.

    175. ian, mission viejo C says:

      What can you say? Obamas a 'big picture' guy.

    176. Larry Croft says:

      Mr. Obama is getting deeper and deeper in trouble. He is making the future of all Americans and the future of future Americans seemingly worse by the minute.

      I don't know the answer for now, but I'm sitting here hoping that with the elections of 2010 and 2012 we will reverse each of what I call his inept decisions.

      I'm nearly 72 years old and may not make it to see our fine country return to capitalism, the land of the free and the home of the brave.

      I hope, however, I do.

    177. John, San Diego says:

      Details…they just get in the way of all the work President Obama has been doing to better America. Everything must get down before year end.

      SPEED is important….not the DETAILS.

      American's is starting to wake up and really look at what is going on……..

    178. Jimmy Root Jr Smith says:

      Obama is more concerned with an agenda of redistribution than he is with the particular details of a bill that will destroy American as we know it. All that will stop the progress of this travesty will be a poplulation that scares the daylights out of its Congressmen and Senators.

      Jimmy Root Jr

      Distant Thunder, Release Aug 10, 2009

      lightningchronicles.com

    179. Kay L says:

      Oh please! Do you honestly believe he doesn't know that is part of the bill? Of course he does!

      This bill is all about regulating insurance companies out of business so that the government can take it over completely.

      Who is going to speak out against an entity that holds their very life in its hands?

      It's about power, control and the death of freedom.

      He knows what's in that bill. The days of thinking that Obama is just a benevolent misfit whose intentions are good but whose implementation is flawed should be long over given the ample evidence we have of his ACTIONS.

      His solution to everything is government control. People like that are socialists. Communists, Marxists–a dead fish by any other name smells just as bad.

      Wishful thinking is not going to save us.

    180. Jack, Kansas says:

      OBAMA:

      EMPTY VISION

      EMPTY PROMISES

      EMPTY WORDS

      EMPTY SUIT

    181. JD, South Carolina says:

      Obama as Pharoah in The Ten Commandments: "So let it be written, so let it be done."

    182. Hugh---Ocean city Md says:

      this is mind-blowing……The Prez himself is not familiar with this bill??? OMG——this is pitiful

    183. henry Fort Worth Tex says:

      I hope this insurance coverage for the American people does pass we can take about numbers that have and dont have but no one know the truth of those who dont have and I would rather see evey one have than not ypung and old need health care and this is from a Viet -Nam Viet so lets getter done .

    184. Richard Cancemi, Arl says:

      In our pasts, we have all experienced a huckster con artist salesman They try to pressure you to hurry up and buy before time runs out or the product will no longer be available. What do we do? We refuse and turn these liars off!

      Yet, here is Obama flim-flamming the Congress and the Country saying we do not have time to read or ponder what he is selling. We are supposed to "trust" him. No way Jose!

      The man is a charlatan, a hooligan, a liar, and a hypocrite! Not to mention a disgraceful traitor to all that America is!

    185. Patrick Malley, Corb says:

      When you know that your the font of all knowledge, why let facts get in the way. His idea of "Distributing the wealth" is to make everyone poor and dependant on the government. Can't wait till 2012 to vote him out.

    186. Mike, Palm Beach says:

      The democrates are doomed in 2010 and 2012 if they follow this guy's lead. Also any republicans that vote for it as well.

    187. Terry Moore says:

      This president is going against the American people on healthcare, 78% love our healthcare plans. Obamas healthcare is about Him..and the drug companies, and trial lawyers..its going to destroy the best healthcare in the world. It will destroy our capatilist government and our freedoms.

      This will cause Millions of jobs to be lost…we must take our congress back and make this president accountable.

    188. M. Regier, Washingto says:

      Obama was willing to let his own brother live in a dilapidated hut in Kenya, while he had plenty of money to help him. Do you really think he cares how average Americans live?

    189. Peggy Stover, Aiken, says:

      I don't think anyone has read the entire bill—–probably because they know it won't affect them.

      If this bill is so "great" why is the Congress, the President and his Staff exempt from it?

    190. MarkR Lake Elsinore says:

      The American public is awakening from their slumber! They now know they made a "huge" mistake with this guy. Buyers remorse. The cap-and-tax and now this- no one reads them. The reason- they know time is short until the public catches wind on whats going on and then he's a lame duck. I truly believe this guy is going to be the earliest lame duck in history. As far as him being this "huge" intellect goes- its a facade. Saul Alinsky disciple and community organizer are his stock in trade as he spent most of his senatorial time running for president and voting absent in the senate. Get a clue people- this guy is a FRAUD!

    191. Greg Chap, Colorado says:

      The best way to get the President and Congress to read this health bill and make it work for everyone: They must forfeit their current "eletist" health plan and become a part of this dastardly poor and expensive plan they are trying to all of us "commoners" with.

    192. Vicki, Duluth, GA says:

      No, he's not familiar with that bill, and it will never affect him or his, so no worries, period.

    193. Jimmy, Houston, Tx says:

      This from the "One" who during the campaign said he would read every bill he signed!!

    194. Richard Cancemi, Arl says:

      Obama needs to be denied!

    195. GGarland Florence, says:

      If this health plan is so great, take one bit of wording out of it — the Legislative Branch, the Executive Branch, & the Judicial Branch are exempt and can keep their "Real Health Program". These people have lost their collective minds. An email to my representative expressing the same idea was answered with "Thank You for Your Input".

    196. ghostsouls says:

      Abortion on Demand, No services for the weak, the old, the chronically ill, for those that are going to die anyways…… this is the obama and pelosi cost cutting agenda. Every abortion will save 250K over the life time of the child, in services not rendered. Eliminating services for the weak, old and chronic or terminally ill, will save all the costs of all the doctor care, nurse care, and tests, and medicines they would otherwise consume, because they government knows the end result will be the same, the person will die eventually, anyway. Population control, is a cost cutting measure the government is counting on with this Health Care Reform. The irony is, that the most likely persons that will be singled out for elimination, are all those poor people obama talks about helping, that he got to vote for him, the ones he and his elitist friends would call, the dregs of society.

    197. Keith Wren USA says:

      Obama is lieing as usual. He knows that provision is in that bill. What a con! America does not deserve Obama or the liberal (with someone else's money)democrats that push his agenda. He wants to take over health-care at any cost. While campaigning before the election, not that he has ever stopped… He easily would tell all the poor suckers that would support him that if they don't have health-care, "help is on the way" Put him in charge and they would all have the same health care that He and the rest of the congress have.

      Is everyone else so stupid that none can remember that but me???

    198. jake,lhc says:

      And obama is the one pushing the foney fraudulent healthcare. What a joke DUH DUH

      How about some Tort Reform to stop obamas' foney croneys, you know the slip and fall lawyers like Edwards and schummmmmmer. This will reduce medical costs between 35%-60%.

      Enfoce immigration laws and this reduces medical cost be another 15% and we can handle the rest. We don't need obamas healthcare that will destroy the best medical care in the World. The insurance companies, bankers and medical Doctors need to stand up to this incompetent marxist LIAR.

    199. Gary, Atlanta says:

      Obama's inherent belief in big government and a society where merit and hard work are replaced by government selection as the process for advancement necessarily results in his pushing this monstrosity. However, a national outcry can stop this destruction of private medical services. And for those of you who think socialized medicine is just fine, you need to hear from people who actually have sought medical treatment in countries such as England or Canada; I know two people who would have been dead had they waited there for their treatment. One woman, in Canada, was told to wait 6 months before she could be scheduled for a biopsy in her breast.

      Anyone educated in economics understands that these are the inevitable results of government run medical services.

    200. Kondor says:

      The only thing Obama has going for him is his congress and senate

      and the stupidity of his lemming followers. And even this is fast coming undone. These people, Obama, Pelosi, Ried and the rest of the bandits are beginning to run into opposing points of view and they don't like it. If Obama goes down on health care, and I'm hoping he will, he will not win a second term. Goodbye Barry and good riddance to the All American socialist.

    201. Russ Seltzer, Cha says:

      I suspect that every word of the bill has been read……the part that each individual congressman had his fingers in. No one in Congress knows what this bill is in total.

    202. Sufficiently Insured says:

      Obama hasn't read the legistation because it's not been fed to a teleprompter yet.

    203. Robert reilly Virgi says:

      Just like the last "stimulus" bill unread by the democrat congress. This crap has got to stop! It appears that this is nothing but another power grab by Obama.

    204. Al, SLC Utah says:

      It will not take long for private business to figure out that the government is in the health care business and they don't have to be. I predict that in ten years the government will be the only providor and quality of care will sink to new lows and costs will go up. I also predict that taxes will be so overwhelming that few will be able to afford to negotiate their own health care. Welcome to a new direction of hope.

    205. Rick Winslow, Rockla says:

      It seems that neither the President nor the House or Senate reads anything anymore. Let's just pass it! Unbelieveable.. Oh and Boyd? That's paragraph 4..

    206. Don H. says:

      It is simply amazing that Obama has not read the bill, yet goes out to the public in a huge way and makes up what the bill will deliver. How are people standing for this? Who backs this guy anymore?

    207. G V, Baton Rouge, LA says:

      As a director of a business I have to know everything that is going on in my company that may change policy, or procedure, there are side effects. There is NO room for failure and bad decisions on my clock. This guy shuns responsibility like water off of a ducks back, and he is running our country, banks, and even the automotive industry. He is really clueless!

    208. Paul, Chattanooga says:

      The Heritage Foundation, while influential, is not an objective source. I applaud Obama for being honest enough to admit he is not familiar with all the details of such huge legislation. wish we had this kind of honesty several years ago.

    209. Rand says:

      So what? Neither is anyone in Congress. He should remember that under his direction, it is no longer important to know anything about legislation other than does the President want it or not!

    210. Greg A, Southern Ore says:

      At this late date, anyone who still believes that Obama is trying to improve the economy is still sniffing Magic Obama Dust…A mere child could look at his agenda and conclude that it is designed to equalize the USA with the rest of the world…We're just too darn powerful and Barry is here to fix that.

    211. Ihavehadenough says:

      To plagerize the Rulers woman, for the first time in my life I am ashamed of the leadership of the once FREE USA.

      This dictator has COMPLETELY ruined the greatest country in the world. How much more can we take.

      We are being bled dry and our offspring are in peril. Our country needs rescuing from this tyrant.

    212. Dick Davies, Ronkonk says:

      What a great job. The house health plan wants to "consult" every one over 62 (seniors) every 5 years minimum about "kicking the bucket"……are they going to be pro or con.

      On a national basis, that would probably be 100,000 jobs. Great for the SEIU.

      Thanks to the 75,000,000 of you who didn't vote and gave us the "The Socialist States of Oberica".

    213. Dan Curatolo Scottsd says:

      Thanks for proving the point GARU… that argument shows your foolish mind

    214. JC, Phoenix says:

      His only agenda is to have his name on a bill that says he was responsible for 'health care reform'. Once passed, if it all goes to hell it will be someone else's fault in the 'implementation plan'… not the health care plan he once knew :0)

    215. ireland says:

      All Obama, all the time. That's why I am grateful for video's and DVD's. Yes, there is a God.

    216. DirtCrashr, Silicon says:

      Why bother to read the Bill? That's what the Politburo is supposed to do. Obama is the Executive and above that kind of administrative, non-exempt work. That's for the grad-students to complete, besides it's not like it can't all be changed anyhow to suit whatever new directive is issued from the Politburo.

    217. Trisha, Texas says:

      We are a grassroots organization that is fed up with the mockery this government is making of our system. We have started a grassroots petition and we are doing very well and would greatly appreciate your support. I am guessing based on the deletion of the web site on my original post that they will not allow me to post it. So instead I will just say this:

      READTHEDAMNBILL

    218. Mr Opinion, CA says:

      To the person who wrote :

      "Bigots! Obmama is doing the BEST he can! His great service to this nation will vault the USA to greater heights. Believe!"

      If you are this blind, then you deserve the health care BO is pushing.

      Stand up for your rights, get off your knees and quit begging!

      Mr. O.

    219. Gordon Phx, AZ says:

      Yes Garu, I agree. Obama is doing the best he can. To turn the greatest economic engine the world has ever seen into pre WWII Russia.

      He is systematically destroying the private sector. 70% of American employment is in small business. He knows that. The Cap and Trade legislation (cap and tax) will put many of those employers out of business. Others of them will lay off people to cover the costs he is levying on them.

      Health Care?…….he doesn't care about Health Care for you or me. He simply knows that he can control 1/6 of the U.S. ecomomy in one fell swoop.

      It goes on.

      I suggest that President Obama and his Chicago thugists are doing every bit the best they can.

    220. Dave, Baton Rouge LA says:

      Uh oh some village is missing there idiot.

      *points* to Garu

    221. JW, Los Angeles, CA says:

      Obama not knowing the previsions of the bill is a load of crock. It was easier to say that he is not familiar with it then have to say "yes it will kill private insurance and I'm blatantly lying to the American people". That is what he wants.

      People are beginning to be scared of who is at the helm, and that's never a good thing. Being at the helm with a messiah complex and thinking you are invincible, is even worse.

      Garu: As much as I just wanna believe, unfortunately I'm not 8 years old at a David Copperfield show. Look at the facts!!!

    222. Bilbo Baggins says:

      The Audacity of Dopes

    223. Joe V. Monterey, CA says:

      1) Govt. will insure all doctors. and Limit punitive damage awards to 1 dollar. A Doctor found to be involved in extraordinary amount of claims will be reassigned to nursing duty and then repay his/her education cost to govt.

      4)additional 3 dollar tax on each pack of cigarettes (in effect put them out of business)

      5) each and every american that is obese will pay a tax of 10 cents per pound over healthy weight per month. period, no arguement, or in effect a "Fat tax"

    224. Diane Sult, Fort Way says:

      If it's not broke don't fix it. Since when has the government done any of us a favor? They can't even run their own cafeteria much less than handle all of our health care. And we all know nothing is free anymore except Medicaid provided by each individual state. Please write your senators and congressmen and beg them to vote "no" on health care reform. The status quo is better than the feds regulating our health care.

    225. Ben C, Ann Arbor says:

      Paul – excellent points.

      Below is my take:

      The problem is a fundamental shift in our culture from personal responsibility (me) to third party responsibility (they). The third party is mostly the government with its social engineering agenda. Fueling this is our judicial system that negates personal accountability with the burden placed on others. The courts “protect us” from hot coffee etc viewing the public as morons incapable of processing common sense.

      Simply look at the financial crisis in California and other states. If the state governments focused on their primary responsibility – police, fire, roads, and eliminated the entitlements there wouldn’t be a crisis even in these tough economic times.

      But alas, we are now a “they” society looking to someone else to blame, solve our problems, and provide for our needs. Healthcare etc is fueling the change and as I see it we are on a one-way road.

    226. Sandy McG. Ct says:

      I agree with all of you. We are citizens of these Unitied States of American not the USSR. Is there a way we can impeach this man?? I am not a racist, I just hate his politics. He lies, lies, lies, telling us one thing and doing another. He needs to be drummed out of office but then look who's behind him! Biden! Even more insulting is he thinks we are dunces and will believe everything he says.

    227. Brad, Indianapolis says:

      Markus Robinson, Pittsboro wrote: "Obama is supporting the public option, as is majority of Americans, according to most polls."

      _________________

      Most Leftist polls. Unbiased polls show another story. Rasmussen just released a poll that shows 50% against, 35% for and 15% undecided. So even if you convinced everyone of the undecided you still don't have a majority.

    228. Darrell says:

      Garu, believe in what? He's ruining this country. He will vault this country into depression. He has no desire for this country to go to greater heights, he wants to destroy us.

      No, I don't believe.

    229. Natalie, Birmingham, says:

      There is no finalized bill to be read yet. Why would you familiarize yourself with hundreds of pages that will probably be weeded out when the house and senate bills are reconciled? Educate yourselves about the facts, quit listening to consevative scare tactics, these groups have their own agenda (and it is not putting the welfare of American citizens first). Get over it rednecks! You just can't stand a black man being in charge, and that is rediculous. He is an American citizen and he is the president of the United States of America too.

    230. Frank Thoma, 32907 says:

      This bill guts and replaces Medicare! Where is the Senior backlash? Oh yeah, the AARP is an insurance vendor and wants a piece of the action.

      This is our Bolivarian Revolution, via the autographed book Chavez gave Obama. Watch the rest of our independence and liberty be slowly eroded away, all our money spent on pie in the sky socialist adventures with no benefit to us, our economy, or our country.

    231. Ken, Glendale CA says:

      why is any of this news?? The guy voted "present" all the time in Illinois, had precisely zero accomplishments in his 140 or so days in the Senate, and now we really know what a "community organizer" does – he organizes, he doesn't DO. That's for all the other poor suckers. All of this was totally predictable based on his record, so sit back and get prepared for the worst.

    232. Kenny Salem, NH says:

      David,NC-

      "impeach him or make him resign,one way or the other he?s got to go."

      Impeach him… Like Joe Biden will do any better!

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    234. JJ, USA says:

      Mutiple choice:

      What's worse?:

      (1) Obamacare

      (2) Cap and tax

      (3) the trillion dollar not-working stimulus

      (4) Gov't funding abortions, here & abroad

      (5) black liberation cult theology ideology

      (6) Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Kucinich, Frank, etc.

      (6) all are about equally bad

    235. Joshua Z. says:

      Ok… So the Stimulus Bill was not read by Congress before it passed both Houses and was signed by the President. The proposed Health Care bill passed the House and none of the representitives read the bill. Now its getting ready to be pushed through the Senate and is being pushed by the President in an all out media blitz, but he isn't familiar with the bill.

      It makes you ask a simple question… If the President of the USA isn't writing the bills and the House and Senate aren't writing or reading the bills. How the hell is writing the bills and telling Congress and the president to pass the damn bills!

      Perhaps we should be going to cfr.org and ask the question. Maybe we might get an intelligent response to our question.

    236. Norma, Indianapolis says:

      I have the audacity to hope that he fails!

    237. Ted Joy -- Suffield, says:

      Shame. Shame. Shame.

      I would have expected better of you folks.

      Instead, we get this illiteracy: "We are familiar with the passage IBD sites, and …."

      For the record, it should be "cites" instead of "sites".

    238. Norma, Indianapolis says:

      Garu, you are definitely on the wrong website. The one for the Obama worshippers is to your left.

    239. Fishsnot, Pannsylva says:

      WHEN ARE THESE MORONS GOING TO REALIZE THAT IT IS IMPROPER TO PASS LEGISLATION THAT THEY HAVE 1.) NOT READ, 2.) DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LAW THEY ARE LEGISLATING TO BECOME LAW, 3.)DON'T KNOW WHAT IS IN IT.

    240. Gordon Phx, Az says:

      A prominent talk show host has said early and repeatedly, that to "us" it matters not what Mr. Obama says, but how he says it.

      The fact that he can cop an ignorance plea on this massive life changing legislation he is savage about passing before Congress gets home in August and has to confront us, is evidence that he believes he can get away with saying almost anything. Sadly, his overall approval numbers bear this out.

      We would not let our children get by with saying they did their homework, but don't know whats in it! That behavior would initiate a vigorous investigation with the child.

      Here in Arizona, a civics poll was taken of high school students…ten questions pulled randomly from a larger test. 3.5 percent of the students answered 60% or more correctly.(6 questions) A significant percent could not name the first president of the United States. Many more did not know the 3 branches of our government. Etc. (Google Goldwater Institute for verification)

      When generations of our young people are not taught American government, and history, it is not a wonder they vote the way they do when reaching adulthood.

      In the larger picture, one has to wonder what is really going on.

    241. TREVOR MERCHANT BRON says:

      THRE IS NOTHING MORE FOR ME TO SAY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA I WILL LEAVE HIM TO HISTORY .I THANK YOU TREVOR MERCHANT TUESDAY JULY 21.2009 BRONX NEW YORK CITY

    242. JLC, Orlando says:

      Funny how Obama is going to have yet another hour long infomercial on prime time TV Wednesday night pushing a health care plan that he doesn't even know what's in it.

      What a scam!

    243. Rocco, USA says:

      Nobody was able to read the Pork-ulus Bill before it was voted on, but he sure took credit for that piece of garbage that hurt our country even more. Now he's got a bill that he knows will go in the dumps, and he's "not familiar with it". What a liar.

      How's that Hope and Change goin' for ya?

    244. Cinderella, Alaska says:

      If he's doing "the Best he can", get him the heck out of there! We, American's, deserve and EXPECT better!!

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    246. Sable, Texas says:

      He hasn't READ the bill? But he wants to force American citizens into a program that only a few want?? I thought it was majority rule, not minority rule. Why ruin what the majority is satisfied with just to make nice with 8 million who don't have the insurance?

      What's he been doing when he's aboard Air Force One, being waited on hand and foot, all paid by the taxpayer? He can't take a little time to read a bill that will affect the health options for millions of taxpayers?

      He wants to tax people who've played by the rules, who've worked hard to get where they are, just because they've achieved? Go ahead, Hussein, tax the productive, the ones who're employing fellow citizens. Tax them and we'll close down our businesses and people will not have jobs.

      This is all about ruining America so that a Socialist non-citizen can force a Marxist/Socialist system on all of us. Where's the birth certificate?

    247. dagny, dallas, tx says:

      What about the mandatory counciling on end of life issues? How is it MANDATORY? What if you don't feel the need to be "re-educated"?

      As a money saver, maybe all the elderly could be grouped together somewhere-maybe a "camp"! After all, GULAG is such an ugly word.

    248. Puppy, Huntington Be says:

      Garu, You should be carefull who you call bigots. I was somewhat pleased when Mr. Obama was elected; finally, our country had crossed a great chassim. Unfortunately, his politics do not coincide with mine or mainstream America. His policies will drive our industry into the dirt and Small business will be long gone then big brother will have taken over.

    249. John Hinton, Stone M says:

      No problem that he isn't familiar with the bill. The Dims that will pass it aren't either.

    250. Jim in DC says:

      look I disagree with almost every issue on Obama's agenda, including this pathetic attempt at universal healthcare. However, he simply said he is not familiar with that provision. They are making new provisions in this horrible bill all the time, so I don't blame him for that. Hell they will probably tack on a couple hundred pages the night before they vote it into law. No big deal! I do blame him for lying about what is in it though. This will not lower cost for anyone. Companies are going to simply pay the penalty, for not giving emplyees health insurance, instead of paying for health insurance, because it is going to be cheaper than paying the premiums on their employees insurance. This will put most people without any options except for the public.

      The purpose of this healthcare bill was to make insurance rates go down, because of competition with the public option. This would make Health insurance cheaper for everyone and people would still be able to select which type of health insurance they would like. Thus creating a win win situation. This bill will not create competition, therefore it will not lower costs. It will raise taxes and insurance premiums for everyone.

      Obama is the puppet of these giant corporations. If you think big pharma and the insurance giants are not licking there chops at this, you're a moron. He is a fascist and his handlers are eugenics proponents. Look at his Science Czar. This is Scary stuff. This Health"care" plan is only there to control everyone and to bring about a population reduction. Do some research.

      P.S. and by the way Bush was [not great either]

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    252. OhGee says:

      He is not familiar with it because it doesn't exist. Maybe freedom of the press is not such a good thing after all. You'll print anything!

    253. Drew says:

      Garu, you are part of the 5% that wants this country like France. This is the USA! There needs to be a revolution to stop this madness!

    254. Jason Thorne, Nacogd says:

      This does'nt surprise me at all, it was the same scenario with the stimulus bill that had to be passed even though there was not enough time to fully read and understand it. He is doing exactly what he said he was going to do on numerous occassions and that is "remake America". It seems that reading and understanding what is in a bill are just minor problems, the details can be worked out later once it is passed.

      The bad news is that it has only been 6 months, Obama is just getting warmed up. At least whiskey is still legal because it's going to take a bunch to get me through the next 3 1/2 years.

    255. Emily, St. Louis says:

      This cannot be about fixing an inadequate health care system. The US health care system is the envy of the world; it is simply too expensive. But what is the major causes? For one, the presence of third party payers, especially the GOVERNMENT (as Medicare and Medicaid), that insulate the health consumer from actual costs. For another, tort law. Obamacare will not make health care less expensive or effective.

      So what is this about? It's a power grab for the Obama administration, the far left, and, yes, Socialism. Seize more wealth from top earners. Make it all "fair". Distribute benefits disproportionately to racial minorities. And watch as our consumer economy, based largely on consumption of medical products and services, crumbles.

    256. Joe Biden says:

      Relax everyone. The messiah is a bit overtaxed right now.

      It's tough going from a community activist to prez.

      But believe me, we can trust him.

      After all, didn't he say, "no lobbyists", "no taxes", "unemployment will not rise above 8% with the stimulus".

      Ok so some of the stuff the prez says is not true.

      Remember he's bringing hope and change to our once great country.

    257. J Hardy says:

      Garu, If Obama is doing his best. We need a new dog catcher in town. I'm amazed that anyone can follow this Czar crazy individual.

    258. Demitre Demobustilar says:

      Don't you understand! That bill stuff is just details, details and details. And those type of concerns aren't important when a majority, however misinformed and disingenuously patriotic, declares a universal need. A decree for free lunches is the battle cry of these cretins.

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    260. Judy Lindley says:

      The last comment that began with the word

      "Bigots" shows part of the problem, with all due respect! This is not about race!

      This is about integrity, honesty, and what is best for this nation. If Obama and his gang are doing such a "great service to this nation", have you stopped to ask yourself why most Americans are truly against this? Why does the crew up on the "hill" want to pass everything so quickly without the public or the law makers being about to read it? I realize things have to do with perspective but, really get educated on what would happen if this were to pass. Just because people oppose this, don't call them bigots! We want our country to go forth not to decend to the depths of a third world country. I challenge you to find out what will happen to the doctors, how many will get out of health care because of the implications of this bill. Have you heard the horror stories from Canada?

      Wake up man, this is our future, for all of us!!!!

    261. Frankei says:

      Of course he's not familiar with it! He just lets the Dems in Congress construct these 1,000+ page abominations and then puts his stamp of approval on them as if they were his! He's an incompetent boob!

    262. Eric, Boulder Creek says:

      This is not the change I voted for. There has to be something in all of this to initiate impeachment and removal from office. Is it possible to have a recall or confidence vote on the President? This damage from this guy has to be limited. 4 years will be a catastrophe.

    263. Joe Cassidy,, Lake says:

      Obama, Boxer, Feintein, Dodd, Reed, Fuddling Franks,,,,, all seem to from the same cloth of non-truth telling…. When will our "SIC"… leaders start telling the truth,,,, It is apparent that they care more about making money and less about serving the people… Where is the transparancy Mr.Obama?? We the " people" are waiting…

      JC

    264. Joe Shelton, Ct. says:

      Facts as I now know them:

      Obama has lied over and over again to the American people during his first six months in office. Those who know what I'm talking about understand the truth in this statement. Those who deny what I've said will neither accept that a coin is round nor that the earth revolves around the sun.

      Obamacare will neither allow individuals to keep their private insurance nor their current doctor. If you do not enroll in it you will be penalized $2,500 a year by the IRS. Illegal aliens, yes, aliens, will be covered by the plan; the number I keep hearing is 12 million. I don't believe this number to be accurate. I believe it is much higher and will grow each and every year. Care will be rationed to help reduce costs. Senior citizens will be denied certain prescriptions and surgical procedures. In effect, they will no longer be in control of how long they live- the government will. Congressional members in both the Senate and House will be exempted from the plan. (They will retain unique medical coverage).

      The plan will not, I repeat will not cover individuals with pre-existing conditions. Therefore, it is false to ascert that all Americans will have coverage. The quality of care will plummet. There will be waiting lines so that the DEMS can expand their voting block (illegals). Doctors will leave the profession by some unknown factor because the White House will control and dictate fees!!!!!!

      Reasearch and development by the drug companies will be scaled back.

      Payment will fall upon the backs of small business owners causing small businesses to close which will give rise to more unemployment. Your government insurance is not portable. 50% of the population of the US pay no taxes today. that number will increase as older people (baby boomers) see a premature end to their lives.

    265. Paul Georgia says:

      Can anyone spare some “Change”? Cause I’m almost penniless on this plan.

      By the way, Garu – Definition of Bigot a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own. Sounds like you are the bigot here, Comrade.

      Oh and if this is the “best he can”, then he better turn the reigns over to someone who can do better. pretty soon, you won’t be able to afford the Kool-Aid.

    266. Mike Sheahen, Hickor says:

      As the actions and words of his and those of his Comrades show, why would and should Obama have to read any legislation for government control and dependence, such as for anything like his so-called “health care” plan, even to his own government control and dependence programmed supporters, when any such plans and legislation have a nasty habit of being, and proving to be, after all, nothing but government elitist and statist power and money-grabs, to be pushed and imposed by any and all means possible, including more of the same old course of government elitist and statist political favoritism, disinformation, promise and rule-breaking, and perhaps another contemptuously arrogant and condescending use of a speed reader?

      So that he can properly defend his plan and such legislation in public?

      As the actions and words of Obama and his Comrades show, they don’t really want to have to defend any government power and money-grabs, and in fact there is no defending such indefensible government power and money-grabs.

    267. Gordon Phx, AZ says:

      Marc, Eastchester

      "Doesn’t matter whether you favor the bills making their ways through Congress or not. Any one of my high school students could tell you that “I am not familiar with” is a colloquialism for “it doesn’t exist.” Regardless, not only did H.R. 3200l not outlaw private insurance; it was proposed and shot down several years ago. Obama wasn’t even President at the time. Obama specifically speaks about the current bill this in your third paragraph.

      Discuss issues; don’t spew nonsense that is then embraced and repeated by uninformed readers."

      You are teaching our nation's youth, Marc? Sigh………..

    268. Kevin says:

      Do you still think you live in a free country? I am looking forward to YOU paying for my health insurance. I currently have an expensive private plan, that I like by the way. But I will be happy when taxes are subsidizing my payments. Oh yeah, I know the quality of health care will crumble. But it should mainly affect the baby boomers now (who I could care less about). Deal with it America, you elected these people… Have a great day!

    269. Fred Flynt says:

      "Its not about me" … but if this health care bill doesn't pass I will look bad … but this is for your own good and its not about me … but congress if you don't pass this you and I won't look good … but if this is not passed we can't bring down health care costs … I'm not familiar with that section of the bill ………….. but I won't look good if it doesn't pass before August …. actually what I meant to say is it won't pass at all if everyone has a chance to read it so get busy and pass it before the August recess.

      Is this the change you were promised in November … I didn't think so

      Elections have consequences …………………

    270. Vince, MD says:

      Obama's health-care legislation sustains the fiction that government is the answer to any question. He seeks to replace practical policy with the abstracts of daydreaming. Any ECON 101 student can puncture holes in the president's platform.

    271. DAVID SAYERS GOLDSBO says:

      Komrade Gara, Obama is a liar and a fraud. In addition, he's the worst excuse for a president since Jimmy Carter and should be thrown out of office along with the rest of his kommie buddies.

    272. Erin, Chicago, IL says:

      I think I read something above about our President not being able to understand everything that is going happening all the time. That is fair, I agree, the President does have advisors and for certain issues may not have all the information. However, if the President is going to schedule a press conference to "educate" Americans about passing health care reform and to ram this bill through the system, is it really too much to ask for him to be educated about what he is preaching? When it comes down to how I will provide for the safety of my family and my own well being you bet I expect him as well as the people I elected into office to understand the whole bill. I will "believe" when I actually see someone looking to be non-partisan and work for the greater good of the whole country, not just their own agenda or one "party's" agenda. Where are our checks and balances?

    273. John Galt says:

      The world will change when you are ready to pronounce this oath:

      I swear by my Life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man,

      nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine.

      -John Galt – From Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged"

    274. Robert. Redlands, CA says:

      He seems to forget that he did not win by a landslide. This was no Reagan victory. He won by the skin of his teeth. A vote for him was more of a vote against Hillary.

      WHY I THINK OBAMAS WANTS SHOULD BE ACCEPTED: Because in 4 years we will have either:

      A) A bunch of Republicans who are amazed that the Democrats could really fix the issues this country has, and a bunch of democrats who knew they could do it all the time.

      or

      B) A bunch of Democrats who are saddened that they were not able to fix the country, and a bunch of Republicans who knew it all the time.

      It would mean the death of the wrong party. if this does not happen, then we will always have one party blaming the other for the status quo.

      RE-ELECT NO ONE!!!

    275. Dan, Oklahoma says:

      Piece by piece, this president of 6 months is systematically dismantling any resemblance of structure and credibility. …Not sure about certain provisions in his own health bill…yet proverbially scolds those who do not conform and get on his bandwagon.

      Unbelievable. And even more unbelieveable he hasnt been run out of town. Yet.

    276. Lemmy says:

      Obama says he's "not familiar" with *a particular provision* in the bill.

      This site runs a headline that screams he's "'NOT FAMILIAR' WITH HOUSE BILL."

      The problem with the headline is that Obama most emphatically did not say that.

      As you yourself write, "details matter."

      But what else can one expect from a rightwing doofus website that traffics in misleading distortions?

      All the dishonest, misleading, inflammatory rhetoric in the world can't distract people from the fact that the GOP has no ideas, no plans, and no shame.

      No wonder the GOP is in the toilet. And sites like yours certainly aren't helping matters.

    277. Eddie-North Carolina says:

      I hope that every one that votes for this stupid health bill and cap and trade bill gets voted out of office. If they can't take the time to read these bills they should be ashamed of themselves. They are taking our freedom away.

    278. Peter Brandt Fort My says:

      As an Insurance Agent I save people so much money on their health plans because don't know how to shop all the options ,For example most people who have group plans spend way to much to add family members for example a 23 yr old Mom I ran into was going to be charged $150 a week to add her newborn, I put her into a top of the line PPO for $90 a month including unlimited Dr. visits for a copay, shots, RX Surgury etc….

      Remember also the 47 million number is skewed, so many young folks under $35 don't want health insurance even though its very cheap at that age. Liberty and choice is what made the United Staes great not central planning. God Bless

    279. Ray S. / Cottonwood, says:

      The quick stimulus package has fallen flat. Another quick move towards a health care plan without republican AND taxpayer approval will fail. You cannot run this country by the seat of your pants like the liberals are trying to do. Change on the whim of Obama and Pelosi will bring more frustration and further losses BASED on their performance thus far. They have blamed everything they can on past policies but they must now account for the present failures..

    280. John, Kalifornia says:

      Mr. Empty-suit goes to Washington. Can't wait for the movie….

    281. Kevin, Texas says:

      There we go. It just had to come out. Everyone on here according to Garu is a bigot. WHAAAAA! WHAAAAA! WHAAAA! Funny stuff.

    282. Jacked11, Plymouth M says:

      But he is concerned, very concerned, deeply concerned, very deeply concerned, pick one, that is his litany for all matters upon which he knows nothing.

    283. BlogOn says:

      The audacity of this president & this congress to pass legislation that no one has even read before voting it into law! I cannot even fathom the arrogance & absolute stupidity of these idiots that we the people have elected to so carelessly govern our country this way! Well, you Obama lovers, be careful what you wish for! You wanted hope & change? Well, you're getting change in a BIG way, more than you can have ever imagined & it will affect every one of us mostly in the pocketbook as well as our economy & most importantly, our healthcare system. Make no mistake, Obama & the dems have a clear agenda & they are hoping to pull the wool over as many eyes as they can before the cat gets out of the bag & the American people finally wise up to the "smoke & mirrors" show they are trying to get away with. For those of you who think the socailized medicine is a good idea, look at these 2 videos & you decide.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XsRzfckneg&NR

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw&fe

      This would be a disaster of unimaginable proportions if this were passed.

      Vote all of these idiots out, first the stimulus that did absolute nothing to help our economy & now THIS!

    284. Darrel, Chicago says:

      Obama is spending our childrens and grandchildrens future. He has spent trillions, is on progress to spending more trillions – with no way to pay for ANY of it. Now he doesn't even know the provisions in the bills he is signing spending those trillions. Nice leadership Obama – NOT.

    285. Concerned says:

      It amazes me how this guy can stand behind something he has yet to read and understand 100%. As far as doing the best he can? Come on! He has lied to the world from day 1. Where is the bipartisan effort from government he promised. It's all about The Big "O" show. He is socializing the US. He is building government. We pay for government through taxes. The stimulous has been a failure! The funds went to the wrong places. Billions went to failing auto manufacturers who filed banckrupcy anyway after paying the big bonuses. The people will end the recession not the government. When the Big O gets done the government will own or have a stake in everything and have government agencies to manage all this. The Chineese will own the US because of our debt. There will be no drive to succeed in business as it only results in much higher taxes. We will have a unefficient degraded medical care system that forces us to seek quality care in other countries.

    286. Joseph, Phoenix, AZ says:

      How the President and the congress can push and attempt to pass bills without reading them is rediculous! Our founders established and wisely developed our government to move slow. The current rush, in the Obama's first six in office, is nothing but politics. Their campaign promise, to have the most transparent govenment in our history, is a broken promise. The Obama "team" is as transparent as a wool sock!

      Every American should read, "THE OBAMA NATION" by Jerome Corsi. Dr Corsi is a research author and the content in this book is factual information. I read and studied the book about a year ago and nothing President Obama has attempted to do has surprised me except, he is trying to "CHANGE" our nation faster than I thought he would.

    287. Dan, California says:

      Don't pick on poor Pres Obama. He is doing as well as any community organizer with the richness of his experience could be expected to do.

    288. ali says:

      YUP, what did you expect from a man who talks out of both side

      of his mouth??????? Once a liar, always a liar. Unbelievable!

    289. Rhonda, Texas says:

      Are we really surprised Obama doesn't know about the HealthCare plan he's trying to shove down our throats??? He didn't and doesn't understand the stimulis. Admits they didn't understand how bad the economy was and wants to pass another. Him nor anyone in his administration reads anything they want passed and he wants us to trust him on Healthcare????? I DON'T THINK SO. WE NEED TO VOTE EVERYONE OUT OF OFFICE THAT VOTES FOR THIS, AND IN 4 YEARS GET OBAMA OUT

    290. Ray S. / Cottonwood, says:

      If you are going sign a bill you really should know what it is that your dumping on every American!

    291. ella quinn n.c. says:

      Garu, obama is not doing anything right.He is not doing a great service to any american citizen.He is trying to bring us down and destroy us all including you.You need to wake up before it is to late for all of us.He does not care about you are any of us.He is evil.

    292. Marie Florida says:

      You can praise the pres. all you want. Wait until you can't get a doctor or surgery and have to ask him why. Also you taxes will go way up if you even work. You are a fool for believing in him.

      People wake up and see what is happening to our country. Keep putting pressure on the reps. and senators. They might want to keep their jobs so it is time we all stand up and take our country back.

    293. bluecollarbytes, USA says:

      No offense, but I don't believe for a second that Obama doesn't know what's in this legislation.

    294. Joyce, Utah says:

      The people are standing up and yelling at the top of their lungs that they do not want this. They do not want to be told how to live and what they have to do that is not America.

      The people are screaming and our President does not hear and more over does not care. His agendas are what is important to him. He spends our tax dollars ripped off from us against our will to date his wife, fly Air one over a city already in fear, take down capitalism and keep us impoverished and indebted to the government and now wants power to say who lives or dies.

      The ones in the Senate and in Congress like Harry Reid and B. Boxer are supporting this take over. When other countries know that a thing like Cap and Trade are wrong and will destroy the ability to earn thus driving prices up he and his cronies move forward.

      You are not a God and you do not have the interests of Americas people and way of life at heart you are out to destroy all America was and we are not going to allow it. We want our freedom and have proven it over and over again. If you choose socialism by all means feel free to leave the states and go where it is the order of the day. Me I want what America always has been and will not sit back and take losing everything to be forced to support others and live as I am told is good for me. I want to see Obama impeached and those backing him booted from having anything to do with controlling us . I want a true government of the people, by the people and most importantly for the people. I want this one replace by true politicians hell bent on making America and her people great once again !

    295. David Smith says:

      Folks,

      We still have a chance to cut OB off! Think about it, 2010 will be a record year for the dems to get voted out of office! Support NEW faces in congress. I for one am done talking about how bad OB is. I AM doing something about it. I'm running for office in 2010. dsmith for congress com. Support us new commers and maybe we can get things back the way our fore fathers meant for it to be.

    296. Elaine Smith, Gaines says:

      We have not seen anything yet. Please read below.

      King Obama: House Considers Repealing 22nd Amendment

      Earlier this year, Rep. Jose Serrano, D-N.Y. introduced H. J. Res.205, a bill that would repeal the Constitutions 22nd Amendment which prohibits a president from being elected to more than two terms in office, thus potentially paving the way to make Barack Obama president for life. Not

      surprisingly, the corporate media currently caught up in Obama-mania has not covered this story.

      Will George W. Bush end up being the last true U.S. President? Sher Zieve, writing for the Canadian Free Press on January 14, warned you on multiple times prior to the 2008 General Election, once Obama is elected, we wont be able to get rid of him. Tragically, this warning is now being realized. Not only has Obama established his election-fraud organization ACORN nationwide, his adherents have now begun the process to repeal the U.S. Constitutions 22nd Amendment.

      See the proof on any of these websites.

      http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill

      http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-hj5/show

      http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HJ_

    297. Ali says:

      These folks who are drinking the kool-aid! Obama knows exactly

      what he's doing. We the public end up on the short end of stick.

      Congress better toe the line or get voted out after this mess.

    298. sILVER bELLE Hatti says:

      Well SOME body elected the the man. Thank-GOODNESS it was NOT me OR my son. HOWEVER, will this site PLEASE keep in mind: The President of the United States does NOT 'run the country'….it's the HOUSE like George Washington set up.

      House/House/House….THEN the Senate…the Senate CAN send a bill back to the House.

      The President of this Nation REPRESENTS the people…"We the people of the United State of America. He gets to sign bills ALREADY passed….he dosen't WRITE them.

      Sadly it DOES show his IGNORANCE to not be VERY familiar with what IS passed.

    299. R. D. Palmer -- Stoc says:

      He and his administration had the Democrats in the House write all these huge bills, they have passed or proposed. Absolutely no one has read or knows what they fully contain and then he goes around spouting off how wonderful they are and what a great boon they will be to America. What else does he not know or knows, and doesn't want the public to learn, regarding all these laws he wants passed immediately and before it is known what all the secrets and ill conceived kernels are in them that are against good public policy? Justwhat does he really know of all he is, and has been claiming, since he started campaining over two years ago? No one should be comfortable with a man who mostly only talks a good fight. It finally appears we are beginning to see the real Obama and it is absolutely the most politically frightening experience one can imagine! More and more he appears to simply be a front man for Senators H.Reid,C.Dodd,P.Leahy,T.Kennedy,B.Boxer,O.Snowe,and B.Sanders and Representatives N.Pelosi, B.Franks,J.Conyers, H.Waxman and M.Waters,among others. Itis painful to say this about our Pres.

      r

    300. Charles Pigneri says:

      Well the winds of change are upon us and we shouldn't be surprised by MaoBama's strategies/tactics. Everyone characterizes this as "Socialist" and in many respects it is. What should be more disturbing to Americans is that Obama's actions are truly FACIST straight from Hebel and Mussolini's playbook. The belief that everyone should be subservient to the State is truly UNAmerican.

    301. YouDude60 says:

      I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.

    302. tom pa. says:

      Garu is a fool. He would probably write out a Blank Check to a Complete Stranger.

    303. Dr. Albert Postar says:

      The new bill should require all members of congress (the house and senate ) as well as the President and the justice department to participate in the new health care plan. It is my understanding that they are exempting themselves in favor of their currant heath care system. If we had as good a plan as they have, then they would think twice about screwing the common man.

    304. Nicky, Madison AL says:

      Bigots? Why? Because we dare say NO to something Obama demands? We're no bigots, but you, Garu (and others) are FOOLS. You are ok with Obama ramming down our throats this poison? He doesn't know exactly what it is, he just knows it will take away our freedom to chose our own health care, and make decisions with our doctors. He's all for that because this he knows, in the bill Congress and White House staff are EXEMPT from all the rules. They'll just tell us what we can and cannot do, but their rules won't apply to them. Obama is doing the best he can? Yes, he's doing his best to undo the foundations of America, he's doing his best at being a tyrant and a little dictator, doing his best at lying between his teeth, telling Americans one thing while he's doing the opposite. He's a snake, an enemy of what we Americans hold dear, LIFE, LIBERTY and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. He's going down in flames, you just watch. Jimmy Carter will look pretty good after Obama.

    305. William Crawford,Ohi says:

      A provision on page 16 of this bill states that once the bill is signed into law, no employer will be allowed to enroll new employees into the employers healthcare plan. So O really didnt lie about being able to keep your CURRENT private insurance. Its all in the words these snakes are saying. Is an ommision really a lie? The stimulus bill will create or SAVE 2.5 miilion jobs is another. Well, if every American was unemployed except for 2.5 million . Then I guess these are the jobs he saved. Still didnt lie. What a decietful bunch of crooked arrogant thugs. They want to rule not represent like they are supposed to be doing. I thank my congressional representative for not giving up on his principles. He is for sure a rare breed in Washington. He took no stimulus money and was raked through the coals for it but stood his ground. My Senatorial representative on the other hand is just like the rest and votes strictly on party lines. You cant tell me he read the stimulus bill before he voted for it. He would be a liar if he said he did. Call all you want,most wont listen as mine didnt. Just vote and keep standing your ground when you hear lame arguments from the people who will never admit they were wrong when they voted these clowns in. One group of people that did not inherit this recession is congress. Dems took over both houses of congress on beginning of 2007. Economy was pretty good then. Thats the argument I use when I am told this is Bushes fault. He is at fault for signing stupid legislation in these clowns wrote.

    306. ChrisMc Miami,FL says:

      Obama is a puppet…he spouts info like "If you have health-care you like, you can keep it", right after having an aide point out that that is not true…he's a human talking point…he reads a speech from a teleprompter and doesn't even acknowledge an error…stating that his health plan will "create greater inefficiencies" in the future".

      Hey Obama, where's your promise tht the public will get five days to read a bill before its voted on…what a liar. IMPEACH OBAMA NOW before he and Congress do any more harm to the country.

    307. DanCUSA says:

      When I was BMing blood, I called my doctor and got to see him within 2 days. I got a second appointment with a specialist and operating room in one week for the colonoscopy. Under Obama "death care", you should call up your undertaker and lawyer and get ready to die. The "victim class" will always be first in line.

    308. Larry Croft says:

      Mr. Obama is getting deeper and deeper in trouble. And, hopefully in 2010 and 2012 we can begin to reverse his decisions so that we will return to a capitalist nation and a nation of the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    309. LogicalUS says:

      It was always a huge gamble to elect this unaccomplished, inexperienced and non-intellectual extremist as President. America gambled and LOST.

      Obama has been a failure in every venture he has been involved for the past 25 years. That was why he had been discarded to ACORN workshops and seminars with aging 60s "revolutionaries". Of course he was going to be a failure.

      Watching this train wreck as it happens is going to be ugly. I hope the best for America but I hope when this mentally unstable man implodes I pray that he takes his fellow communists in the MSM and Congress with him once and for all. Taking bets on Obama going postal in some near event to the shock of all watching.

      Good riddance to bad rubbage!

    310. Ross-Dallas, TX says:

      Garu,

      Bigots? You illustrate the problem with a large portion of America today. The blind faith you suscribe to will lead us off a cliff. It baffles my mind that you think it is possible to pass a bill, as a congressman or senator, that you have not read? that is like me taking your credit card to a restaurant, ordering off a menu with items numbered, instead of named with descriptions, absent of prices, and passing out food to all 100 of my co-workers…that is beyond preposterous…

      obama presents us with a perfect opportunity to decide to either relinquish more control to the federal governement or choose individual liberty, mutual cooperation over coercion, freedom or tyranny. for me, the choice is simple.

    311. JDH chicago,illinoi says:

      WAIT-WAIT….Isn't this the candidate that said he go through bills "LINE by LINE"??? Guess he like congress,"doesn't have the time!!!

    312. Marcia Edwards, Mari says:

      If this Obamacare is such a fantastic health plan, why hasn't a provision been written in the plan to include ALL of congress,including the President and his family. Maybe THEY have read it and that is the reason they don't won't to be covered under it.

    313. William, El Paso, TX says:

      Anyone who even entertains the concept of a nationalized health program is certifiably mentally handicapped. Health care is NOT the responsibility of the Federal government. Do-gooders think it should be, but it isn't. Many leftist politicians have done all they can do to undermine and demonize the current health care "system" so the idiots in Washington DC can rush in and "fix" it. I grow nauseous just thinking about all of the megalomaniacs that occupy elected seats in Congress, and of course, the megalomaniac who occupies the presidency. They need to read and understand the US Constitution. The biggest trouble makers couldn't pass an eighth grade test on the single most important document on the face of the planet.

    314. chipfaced says:

      Hey Garu, the acid should wear off in about 12 hours or so. Enjoy it while you can.

    315. Robert - Indianapoli says:

      Jenny Clark of Vancouver – it is so sad watching it from within our country. The only thing more sad is the fact that our leadership – both sides – only have two things on their mind. That is partisan politics and lining their pocket. Where are the leaders that actually care what is the best for this country and their constituents? Where are the leaders, regardless of party, that will stand-up, call a spade a spade, and move toward sensible solutions to real problems. I will tell you – they aren't in politics, they are the men and women who run companies and families and have to make real choices between need and want. It's their money on the line every day, their ability to provide. As it should be. It is so easy to play politics when you have someone else's skin in the game. We have no one to blame for what is to come except ourselves. We have been given the power, and we have absolved ourselves of our responsibility – why not, American Idol is on.

    316. Joe, Trenton, NJ says:

      Don't let BO and the Dem Congress fool you about your being able to keep your current health insurance even though there's a public plan offered by the government. They're out to turn this country into a Socialistic swamp.

      It'll take a while but here's how they'll do it. After the public plan is passed and signed into law, these Socialist idiots will charge members a very low government subsidized premium which will undercut all the private insurers. They'll continue to do this until they've driven them out of business. They'll be able to do this because they can operate at a perpetual loss…..after all, we let them do that all the time, don't we? They can tax like crazy or print money. The private insurers can't do that.

      Eventually, we'll all wind up in a single payer plan and then the government can charge whatever they want. Neat…eh?

    317. John, Jersey says:

      I don't think you guys have any idea how bizarre you sound.

    318. Joe, Trenton, NJ says:

      Gentlemen,

      If you do not publish my message in its entirety, I do not want it published.

      Joe

    319. WeMadeAmistake says:

      "your comment is currently undergoing moderation"

      is this a screening before an Obama press conference?

    320. mjn, philadelphia, P says:

      We need to all tell Washington, SLOW DOWN, there is no need to rush this through. Let's take another year and do it right. Why the rush?????? What is this really all about?

    321. Mike P.A says:

      LOOK WE ALL MADE A MISTAKE WE NEED TO RECTIFY THIS! WE NEED TO LAME DUCK IT FOR 3.5 YRS AND REELECT! OBAMA WILL GO DOWN HISTORY AS A LOSER!

    322. Fran, Cape Cod Massa says:

      To all of you who have advised writing my Senators and Representatives in DC about my dissatisfaction with the health care proposals.I would love to but as you see by my address there is no one I can write to who would listen. I could drive about 10 miles down the road to Hyannis Port where Teddy is supposedly working on health care but I really do not think he is doing much considering the way he looked in the last picture I saw of him. I am just praying that the Congressmen and women from the middle of the country have the where with all to stand firm against the White House and their friends from Massachusetts and California

    323. JR, Kailua, Hawaii says:

      There are real solutions to the health care issues, but Obama and his cronies are too power hungry to pursue them. This is nothing but an opportunistic power grab by Obama and the democrats. Obama is a disaster and so is this bill. The fine print says, "You're all hosed!"

    324. ali says:

      This pres. is as bad as his congress. None of them bother

      to speed read the 1000 pages overnight……..but wait, wait,

      let's hurry up and vote on the unknown……..dummies. I will

      vote out all from my state who vote in favor of this bill.

    325. WeMadeAmistake says:

      I just went to a pre-proposal meeting today for a public design project. There were a 100 professionals there. Three years ago there would have been 10 at the most. The faces on these professionals told the story about how worried they are about keeping their jobs and supporting their families. Under Bush three years ago, my firm had 135 employees. Since the Democrats took over in 2006 and with Obama in the White House we have had layoffs and paycuts and furloughs. We now have 18 employees. My town has middle class families who have lost everything and now live in tents in parks. Meanwhile, we have Obama partying every Wednesday night on $100/lb kobe steak with his cronie friends in the White House. This man is a disgrace with no class and no culture. Bring back the Bushes…..at least Bush kept his promises and kept us safe.

    326. MHOyes says:

      There is ONE primary question about this in a never-ending series of socialistic attempts by this foolishly elected administration: ARE THE EXECUTIVE, LEGISLATIVE and JUDICIAL branches of this government ALSO REQUIRED to "buy in to this plan"? or is it solely for "the masses"? If it's good enough for us, it's good enough for them…NO elitist behavior! If so, I'd want to see it in writing…which is yet another "promise" that was not kept…anyone remember the 5 day lie?

    327. Steve DeMarcus says:

      You must be kidding an inexperienced incompetent politician is not even familiar with major legislation that is a the very least the biggest tax increase that also limits and imposes all sorts of new horrid regulation and lack of choice (except for abortions) for care and doctor choice and treatment options. One that will outlaw private insurance in the long run leaving only a public "requirement" to purchase (unless you are a real deadbeat) and kill the health care industry and the jobs that go along with it, certainly he is aware of it because it must be done quickly before people figure out he should have never been in office in the first place and throw his rear end out of office.

    328. Joe says:

      This has nothing to do with "providing" healthcare to anyone…….this is about denying healthcare choice to those of us that choose to purchase it.

      This is nothing more than lowering the common denominator so that everyone has THE SAME government controlled healthcare in the name of Obama's vision of "equality".

      Typical Socialist philosophy……don't raise the standard, lower the standard so that everyone is equally miserable……..case in point is the public school system.

    329. Patricia,Hobbs,New M says:

      How crazy is it that the President is rushing a bill through congress that NO one knows what's in it. What kind of leaders did we elect? It is pretty darn scary to sign a document that no one knows whats in it. I wouldn't do it,would you?

    330. annie says:

      Obama has no idea what he's doing, but he admitted that a couple of years ago, so not sure what the news is. Every person who voted for him in either the Primary or the General is a tool. Thanks for nothing.

    331. SP, Tulsa. says:

      What ya' smokin', Garu? I think I want some of it!

    332. Donna says:

      THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES!!! IMPEACH THIS GUT NOW!!

    333. meryle, new jersey says:

      Garu, you are an idiot.

      bigotry has nothing to do with any of our criticism of Obamma's determined destruction of the United States.

      We don't believe. He is incompetent. He ran his own household in the red. Lucky he signed that book deal for millions before he tries to stick stick it to the rest of us.

      Garu, you want socialized medicine? Pack your bags and apply for a job in the countries that offer it.

      If you are unskilled and can't get a job there well no wonder you want to bring the rest of us down.

      CONGRESS AND SENATE HOLD STRONG! DO NOT GIVE IN. WE DO NOT WANT SOCIALISM HERE IN AMERICAN. DOWN WITH THE KING!

    334. Donna says:

      THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES!!!

    335. Rob, New Hampshire says:

      This is the plan to save medacare. Get everyone on the same government plan and them medacare can go away. This is not saving or fixing medacare unless you have a sic way of looking at it. It will break everything that is working. It is a shallow vail takeover of another of our freedoms. Did you hear Obama say that too much of OUR MONEY is being spent on things that don't make us healthy. No hip replacements, no end of life care, no scar repair ect…Obama wants more of our money to spend his way. It will never end. And when is done taxing the rich we will all be poor.

    336. MrDuffin, NC says:

      It's kinda hard to believe a person who makes promises based on something he knows nothing about. Obama does not need facts to make his case for health care changes…his lies will do just fine!

    337. Roger S., Ma. says:

      Oh Lord O'Balmy. What gentle currents of supreme ignorance course through thy brain. What great streams of hot powerlust confound them.

      "O tempora, o mores! Quousque tandem abutere, O Bama, patientia nostra…" "How many more days will you expect us to bear your arrogant contumely? Have you not lied to our MSM's about the effects of your management? Have you not pressured our representatives in the senate to approve of your ways before knowing them? Do you now think a second's truth will save you? When all you did before was to lie? Oh the times, oh the customs!"

      2072 years ago, the famous Roman lawyer, senator, and orator, Cicero, would have had as much fun with this guy as he did with many of his ilk in his day.

      If hope is all you have, audacity is no mark of courage. It is merely banal.

      If a con man wants to sell you a bill of worthless goods, he needs you to like him. Even better, if he can get you to identify with him. If he then tells you the best offer of your life is good only today, he needs your uncertainty. And if he smiles again, watch his eyes. One glance is enough for you to know if he means it. He never does. Oh for the times and the customs!

      Seriously, I think it's time for the grass-roots movement to consider vastly more than to just stop this crazy bill or that nutty spending package. America's been through all this before, between 1929 and 1941. Then a great war "saved" the economy but cost America so dearly in other ways. This time we don't have 12 years to waste on amok running "progressive new new dealers". And we sure as the devil don't have room anywhere on this planet for one more of that kind of a war.

      Our Constitution calls for "high crimes and misdemeanors" as grounds for impeachment? Well, we're still a bit light on the "crimes" end, speaking formally, but there's a new "misdemeanor" almost every day. Lying and misrepresenting, whether from willful ignorance or opportunistic malice, certainly qualify.

      After all, what was BillC's small personal "bending of the truth" compared to what we're being delivered now?! Every Congressman needs to be made to understand that if he/she continues any support of this, a vast grass-roots movement they will not be able to coopt or outspend will virtually assure their failure to get themselves reelected next time it's their turn. And this time, "we the people" will not forget!

    338. Gary, Annapolis says:

      Of course he isn't familiar with it. He hasn't even read it. I'd like to know who has…nobody, I bet.

      Such is the way this corrupt bunch of gansters operate.

    339. Tess, NY says:

      Hmmm…this is par for the course…people not reading legislation before voting for it and signing on to it. By the way, what the heck is developing standards of gender? These bills that they are creating are getting more and more bizarre.

    340. Grillo, HI says:

      Actually, he said he wasn't familiar with one provision of the bill. Your headline–and the article itself–is extremely misleading.

    341. Carole,Sacramento says:

      We warned everyone Obama was the emperor with no clothes, now everyone is just starting to see him standing there…without a stitch. He is not stupid he is intentional. The man does not care about what the American want he has his own agenda to destroy the America he and Ayers, Dorn, Wright, Khalid etc. have hated and make it into something else, but it won't be our America. His tactics are right out of Sal Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" manifesto. They admire Cuba's Castro and Hugo Chavez lets not forget, this should tell you what path they hope for the US. How dare the "government" which is made up of mere individual we elect to WORK FOR US tell us what medical care we will have, that THEY will make personal medical care decisions for us, like it or not ! How dare they ! When THEY start lecturing us, we the people, there is a PROBLEM here…make no mistake.

    342. nedarc, Los Angeles says:

      If you do not agree 100% with Obama, you are a racist and guilty of a hate crime….Besides we all know it is Busch's fault no matter what it is.

      So my lovely liberal friends enjoy your new God. Yes we can!

    343. Richard, Raleigh NC says:

      America, wake up and smell the coffee! He "won" the election, therefore he gets what he wants (or he assumes this is the case).

      It's amazing that despite have a majority in both the House and the Senate that Obama's Health Care Bill is facing so much opposition. This might shed some light that it might not be all that it is cracked up to be.

      Just like the economy is going to crash without the "stimulus" bill being passed (less than 10% of it will hit the street by the end of the year according to CBO), the people are being sold a bill of goods that is not truthful.

      What else can you expect from a guy without any real experience (especially in the private sector). He's not qualified to run any company, but he is the President of the United States.. Wow, only in America.

    344. Stan in Greenfield T says:

      Not surprised that Obummer hasn't read the bill.

      He just knows that if it doesn't pass soon, he will lose support of Democrats that are up for re-election next year. He even admits that he has a short window of opportunity here and if it doesn't happen now it may be decades before we could have another opportunity like this.

      What he means is, people are wising up and we will boot their sorry butts out and no body else will try this until we are too old to vote and the young peeps are in the majority.

      STAND UP, YELL IF NECESSARY, and TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK

    345. bridgette underberge says:

      President Obama is willing to say or do anything, pay any price, compromise any existing health system to get this bill of his passed. The National Health would be the cornerstone to control of the populace. What difference does it make to him whether he promises this or that Senator billions of dollars in pork — when in the end he'll either have the Treasury print it or he'll default. Furthermore all sorts of new and vague provisions may be included just to get it done. Passage of this National Health bill would be more damaging to America than anything in our history. It will destroy us economically, socially, politically. Perhaps the most important aspect here is that while people are increasingly talking about what a disaster this would be economically — they forget that the true cost will be that it will end American freedom. That's a fact. That's also why those with a stark socialist agenda want it passed at any cost and are trying to rush it through. Shamefully the Senators do not plan to participate themselves. They're going to be exempt. That's not going to save them.

      R

    346. Paul Murphy says:

      Garu: We can't be afraid to ask the tough questions on an issue this big. The media didn't ask Obama any tough questions and that is why he is president.

      If Obama's "best" is pushing through a healthcare system he's not familiar with, that's a BIG problem.

      This idiot has not changed any of Bush's policies and he is quadrupling the budget.

      I want my country back!

    347. kellie says:

      To Paul : your words have left a resounding nod across the nation. xanga.com/shamelesslyred

    348. Stan in Greenfield T says:

      This legislation will be just like Cap & Trade.

      A week from now Obama will announce that he is launching an all out effort to pass immigration reform.

      Meanwhile, the common sense people will be yelling about that while in the background they are still working on Cap & Trade and Healthcare Reform.

      Mark my words. He like to overwhelm the opposition by the Divide and Conquer method. Some will oppose Cap and Trade. Some will oppose Healthcare. Some will oppose Amnesty for Illegals. But unless we pay close attention to EVERYTHING, they will sneak one by one past us.

      RALLY AND OPPOSE THE RUSH OF SOCIALISM!!!!!!!

    349. Harry, Illinois says:

      The president's not knowing what is in the bill is like a Chef not knowing what ingredients are in his or her recipe and then trying to tell is all that it is good.

    350. SFP..SO Central,Kans says:

      Obama and Dems have no PLAN, Just a giant SCREW Job for their fellow' 'merican's… The Rahm is already prepared for the ram…

    351. JamesS says:

      In 1957 Ayn Rand wrote her most famous novel Atas Shrugged in it we see the following:

      The protagonist, Dagny Taggart, sees society collapse around her as the government increasingly asserts control over all industry, while society's most productive citizens, led by the mysterious John Galt, progressively disappear. Galt describes the strike as "stopping the motor of the world" by withdrawing the "minds" that drive society's growth and productivity; with their strike these creative minds hope to demonstrate that the economy and society would collapse without the profit motive and the efforts of the rational and productive.

      Sound familiar? The "bamster" is trying to take over the all industry including health care. Get real folks – we cannot afford this. The fact that the "bamster" doesn't even know what in the bill all the while promising just the obvious smells like dead fish.

    352. smc, PA says:

      The numbers in this article don't even add up. 88.1 isn't less than 83.4. In the end, nobody is "forced" to do anything. These people are moving to the public plan because it's cheaper and provides better coverage. People have been "losing their current health insurance" for most of the past couple of decades at an alarming rate. Another 75 million people will likely lose their healthcare choices over the next 10-15 years if we keep listening to the "Do Nothing" authors of this kind of tripe. The only difference is that there won't be a public alternative for people losing their converage to buy into.

    353. Matthew, San Francis says:

      Do all of you morons think our healthcare system is working just fine???? It does until you have a "pre-existing condition" or until you don't have insurance…..then what?? Insurance companies are out for your money not your health. We need to shift our priorities to health promotion and insurance companies wil never support that. WE ARE A FAT FAT FAT NATION and out health is declining rapidly. The insurance companies don't care if we are unhealthy it means more money for them, our healthcare system needs to change or it will bankrupt our nation. The 64 million babyboomers will need more and more care and the status quo will not sustain us. I admit this will be a tough pill to swallow but it is needed and now!!!

    354. SCOTT, AZ says:

      The same people that say Obama is doing a great job (yet doesn't have a clue of what he is signing) are the same people that couldn't read the mortgage paperwork showing how much the payments will be months 1 through 360.

      That evil broker made me sign it.

      Obama will say "I am not really sure what the bill said, I just trusted it was ok because Nancy and Harry said it was good" (They didn't read it either).

      Vote them all out in the Mid Terms.

    355. Al, Stockton, CA says:

      America, you got what you deserve!! You voted for hope and change. We still have hope and alot of CHANGE — quarters, dimes, nickles and pennies. Running a little short of quarters!

    356. Brad says:

      Hey, Garu: I love how whenever anyone disagrees with Obama they must be a bigot. You and Janine Garofalo are made for each other. Usually it's the racist people that play the race card first.

    357. Rockmelon, Frederick says:

      Geez! I've been pulling my hair out over these bills being pushed through the senate without anyone reading them!d

      This is no small thing. We vote in our congress to speak on our behalf by reading, researching and questioning bills put before them. If they are not reading them, then they are not doing their job and should no be paid! I would be fired if I did not do my job. Or if I told my boss, "gosh, I'm sorry, I didn't actually read that contract!"

    358. J Ketchikan says:

      Those who shall not be named have consolidated power in banking and are deflating the currency. They have successfully used the "useful idiots" to debase the country's education and morals. And I am not talking about religious morals. I am talking about self-morals. People let others tell them what is right and what is wrong for them because they are too lazy and indifferent to seek the truth for themselves. Obama is their Mystic, attracting the star-struck, insecure, and lazy admirers. 'I like Him, so I will believe what He does'. With inflated money and health control, the only things left are guns and the internet. What "crises" will entail these?

    359. bob Chicago, il says:

      It's apparent that most folks here are so busy looking to find fault that they forgot how to read. What he said was, 'I am not familiar with the PROVISION you are talking about.' Do any of you know what a provision is? And in any bill or legislative work, most would not remember or certainly be willing to address without research the issue. Perspective and truth, reach out sometime!

    360. Meghann, NY says:

      Put a cap on frivolous law suits that are warranted by malpractice. You can't get your kid back with 140 million dollars, stop forcing everyone to suffer with you. Only legal immigrants and United States Citizens should be allowed health care. The CEO's of these insurance companies should be thoroughly investigated as should the many companies that have received "stimulus" money because it doesn't take 1.5 million dollars to repair a front door. And honestly, for those of you who still believe he's going to give you 'Hope and Change', get your head out of your butt, please.

    361. Frank, USA says:

      Obama's an idiot. He wouldn't know anything unless it was shown to him on his teleprompter, or sent to him on his blackberry.

      Just believe? yeah right.

    362. Gary Smith, San Marc says:

      Great article, What's not to believe? Obama has broken almost every promise,has he not. How many bills does this make that Obama and congress has passed without reading and really knowing what is going on. Have you not figured it out yet? They do not care!!! This is their agenda do it at any cost whether or not the American people want it.

      Why do you think Congress and the unions are exempt from this plan. Not good enough for them why should it be for us. Are you ready for a panel picked by Obama telling you when you can get treatment and when you must suffer with pain?

      If the pill he choses doesn't work for you what do you expect the answer to be? Let me answer that for you TOUGH the one chosen is the cheaper one. Socialized medicine will not work. Ask yourself how many people are rushing to Socialized medicine countries like Eupore and Canada to get treatment. No ONE!! They come here to get quality treatment and faster service.

      Kill the bill it is not the way to solve the problem.

    363. Blueberry, LA says:

      Rep. John Fleming of LA will be introducing HR615

      that goes to the very issue of Congressmen signing onto the healthcare bill for themselves & staff if they believe in it enough to vote for it. check out: http://fleming.house.gov

      Yesterday the traveling WH dog & pony show with ringleader Sec. Sebelius came to LA to tout Obama's healthcare bill along w/3 other Secretaries and they don't know what's in it either by their responses to questions from the large angry audience!

    364. Peggy Auburn, WA says:

      It is truly about pushing an agenda without concern for the consequences down the road. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. While other governments are turning away from socialism, we are marching forward into an outdated and misguided system that has NEVER worked anywhere that it has been implemented.

      Since when can you spend your way out of debt? Is reform for reform sake necessarily good? Instead of spending money it will take generations to repay, why not encourage business and personal growth with a tax freeze through 2010? Look at where the "stimulus" money is going, (which by the way you can do on the new and improved 18 million dollar government website), and you will see it has little to do with growing the economy and everything to do with paying back Obama's political backers.

      Say NO to more god awful "reforms" by letting your representatives know that you are holding them accountable for their actions and will make your distaste for their voting records known with your own vote against them the next time they are up for election.

      I'LL TAKE MY FREEDOM – YOU CAN KEEP THE CHANGE!

    365. May Elynn says:

      Nancy Pelosi is our of her friggin mind saying the Healthcare Bill is backed by us Americans. I wonder where she's getting her news lately? David Letterman or The Simpsons?

    366. BlogOn, Irvine, CA says:

      Hey, it finally got posted!

    367. Nora, Tucson, AZ says:

      Garu, Obama IS doing the best he can; unfortunately, his service to the nation is going to lead it down the path to ruin. By the way, just because we don't believe in his competence doesn't mean we are bigots. Look in the mirror, my friend.

    368. Loretta, Virginia Be says:

      C-Span is a Godsend. Aided by President Obama's unelected Czars, we can see the "change" taking place before our very eyes. The President can walk on water just like his Portuguese Water Dog. He's going to close GitMo & keep it open. He's gonna' let me keep my doctor but cut his salary. He's increasing the size of the military forces in a far away country that we didn't belong in while he was campaigning. We're going to save that money & spend it here at home. He votes to close down a charter school for poor kids in DC while he enrolls his in a private school. He's in favor of raising the tax on cigarettes because he believes this will discourage teenagers from smoking. Yet he plans to fund health care with money from increased taxes on cigarettes. Dick Durbin objected to putting a trigger on a bill that would say we could drill for oil if gasoline reached $10 a gallon. We are going "back to the future of the 1800's" by curtailing our own ability to manufacture anything. We're going to "change the climate" and lower it by 2 degrees. China & India will have no part of it, so we will do it all by ourselves. No big deal for someone who walks on water. He is sure the waters are going to rise 20 feet. That will wipe out all of Va. Bch. We will concentrate on making food to feed to cattle to drastically reduce bovine flatulence because that lends to global warming. Who ever thought we would yearn for a return to the days of Clinton & Carter? Bernie Madoff only ripped us off to the tune of 60 billion or so. The Democrats and Obama have "made off" with the entire wealth of our country and eliminated the "checks & balances". We find ourselves subservient peasants in a land once flowing with milk & honey. Unelected and Unaccountable Czars answer only to the President. He graces us with his presence several times a day and challenges anyone to "take him on". We quiver in our sandals lest we oppose the first black President and be labeled "Racist". Spineless Republicans are speechless even though 48% of the votes were for the opposition. Obama was not given a "mandate to CHANGE AMERICA!" into a socialist country. Goliath will be holding another press conference tomorrow with pre-approved questions posed by the lap-dog media. Is there not one "little David" who will challenge this dictator? As the wife of 72-year old Cancer survivor, less choices for health care and no future for my grandchildren, are changes that make living in China inviting! They are going forward while we are going backward!

    369. BlogOn, Irvine, CA says:

      Lemmy, Lemmy, Lemmy you clearly have drunk the Obama koolaid & are marching to the furor's drumbeat. Obama has NOT read the entire healthcare bill, NO ONE has & congress has admitted it, as well as Obama himself! But, most importantly, WE should have access to read these bills (like the big "O" promised before he got elected). If the bill is being rushed through so quickly, how can ANYONE have read it first? Remember, transparency in government & posting the bills online for 72 hrs prior to voting on them? Well, NOT happening! We all know that the Stimulus TARP bill was NOT READ IN IT'S ENTIRETY BY A SINGLE PERSON WHO VOTED FOR IT! Remember, Nancy had to catch a plane to Italy & needed the bill to pass so not to mess up her travel plans! The arrogance & ineptitude of these self-serving & entited politicians! What's the rush? When has ANYTHING of worth, accuracy & quality & been done in a rush? It just doesn't happen that way in the real world. How shameful & utterly inept of ANYONE to sign their name to something they don't know what they're signing! Maybe "O" is youthful, looks cool, is articulate, has the entire press core held sickeningly captive & made history as the first black president, but that doesn't make him qualified to run the greatest & most powerful country in the world! The presidency shouldn't just be a popularity contest although sadly it's turned into this. It should be about experience, qualifications, a proven track record of leadership, competency & actually running or leading something! Well, looks & personality will only get "O" so far. The mask is now off & people are starting to see what is underneath & what his TRUE agenda is & it's NOT about the people of this fine nation, it's about Obama's agenda.

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    371. denise pettus pleasa says:

      the world health organization says your chance of surviving cancer is greatest in the united states because of our medical care. why don't the feds clean up the millions in medicare and medicaid fraud before they tackle something new.these programs ,as they are being administered, is what can't be sustained mr. obama.what about all the aliens coming in and receiving medical care now? we'll need to continue to support them too? we're on the edge of a cliff in this country.

    372. Patriot Rider Texas says:

      This just proves Obama is not in charge of the game. He is pushing an agenda that is being handed down from him.

      I am very confused about people like Garu who do not have the intellectual capacity to read, research and educate themselves on the issues to bring a educated conclusion on the policies put in place. Every person that i have come across that supports Obama can only attack people that appose him. This troubles me greatly. What happened to debating on facts?

      The truth is about the healthcare bill is it's a eugenics program at best. My understanding is citizens who have private insurance can keep their insurance but the insurance companies will not be allowed to take on new customers, meaning once you lose your private insurance or don't have insurance you will be forced onto the government plan. There is also a clause that all un-insured citizens will be forced to buy the government plan. If they do not buy this plan they will be fined $2500.00

      I just can't even fathom the evil that surrounds obama and his supporters. I adequate the obamatrons to an education level of 7th grade or below, at best. I can tell you right now, i will never give an Obamatron a job. Good thing the internet makes easy and in depth research on people.

      Garu – quit getting your information from TV.

    373. russ franklin nc usa says:

      I can assure you that it is a rare piece of legislation that gets read by anyone — except the lobbyist who wrote it. Stop being naive. This is all about power, creating a permanent Democrat ruling hegemony, a One-Party State. It's about legacy, Obama on Mount Rushmore (you saw the Green Peace banner) and Pelosi with a Nobel Peace award and maybe a post as UN Secretary-General. It's about crushing what remains of the Spirit of Liberty that originally animated our Founders. With the possible exception of Texans, I think we Americans indeed will be crushed into servitude.

    374. Shaun, Sacramento CA says:

      I have nothing else to say, this woman has said it all, and for that reason, I will say it again. I agree 100%.

      -Concerned American Citizen

      Joyce, Utah writes:

      The people are standing up and yelling at the top of their lungs that they do not want this. They do not want to be told how to live and what they have to do that is not America.

      The people are screaming and our President does not hear and more over does not care. His agendas are what is important to him. He spends our tax dollars ripped off from us against our will to date his wife, fly Air one over a city already in fear, take down capitalism and keep us impoverished and indebted to the government and now wants power to say who lives or dies.

      The ones in the Senate and in Congress like Harry Reid and B. Boxer are supporting this take over. When other countries know that a thing like Cap and Trade are wrong and will destroy the ability to earn thus driving prices up he and his cronies move forward.

      You are not a God and you do not have the interests of Americas people and way of life at heart you are out to destroy all America was and we are not going to allow it. We want our freedom and have proven it over and over again. If you choose socialism by all means feel free to leave the states and go where it is the order of the day. Me I want what America always has been and will not sit back and take losing everything to be forced to support others and live as I am told is good for me. I want to see Obama impeached and those backing him booted from having anything to do with controlling us . I want a true government of the people, by the people and most importantly for the people. I want this one replace by true politicians hell bent on making America and her people great once again !

    375. Kerry, Texas says:

      Garu, Really? If we don't agree with him, we are obviously Bigots? I would hate to think of what I am since I didn't vote for our Racist president. Obviously our president is a bigot, he did goto reverend wright's church of hate for 20 years.

      And as for that Obamacare, I would hate to see what is actually in it. God Help us all!!!

      Vote him out!!

    376. Kerry, Texas says:

      I MISS BUSH!!!!

    377. annie, Boston says:

      This is what I wrote on my blog today.

      “I pray that we will defeat the Health Care Bill. Please remember that nothing in life is FREE. Either you earn it or you pay for it. In this case you pay with your freedom.

      Please do your homework on the Health care Bill. There are areas that more than hint at euthanasia especially for the elderly. There are MANDATORY meetings for your elderly family members with “end of life counselors”. (It will be a cold day in hell before that happens in our family!)

      There is a part where it is spelled out clearly that private health insurance will become illegal. It will be phased out. You will not be able to pay for your own care or medicine even if you can afford it.

      The report on the state of our budget is being held up until August. It should be out now. It is so bad that they have to cover-up.

      I keep hearing that other countries have Socialized medicine but NO ONE says why we, the RICHEST NATION IN THE WORLD, should COPY other countries.”

      We have decided we will actively campaign and give donations to politicians who support OPPOSING Obama’s Health Care.

      We will encourage friends and family to do the same.

      Please take note that Massachusetts has an un-affordable disaster for Public Health care and people still go to the ER..

      Our country needs tax breaks and support for small business so we can get going again. We also need tort reform (frivolous law suits). We do not need more Utopian schemes.

    378. JC, Los Angeles says:

      Top Ten Reasons For A Single-Payer Health Care System in the United States:

      10. Public oversight. The public sets the policies and administers the system, not high priced

      CEOs meeting in secret and making decisions based on what inflates their compensation

      packages or stock wealth or company profits.

      9. Common sense budgeting. The public system sets fair reimbursements applied equally

      to all providers while assuring all comprehensive and appropriate health care is delivered,

      and uses its clout to negotiate volume discounts for prescription drugs and medical equipment.

      8. Cost savings. A single payer system would produce the savings needed to cover everyone,

      largely by using existing resources without the waste. Taiwan, shifting from a U.S. healthcare

      model, adopted a single-payer system in 1995, boosting health coverage from 57% to 97%

      with little if any increase in overall healthcare spending.

      7. Reducing administrative waste. One third of every health care dollar in California, for example, goes

      for paperwork, such as denying care, and profits, compared to about 3% under Medicare,

      a single-payer, universal system.

      6. Ending insurance industry interference with care. Caregivers and patients regain the

      autonomy to make decisions on what's best for a patient's health, not what's dictated by the

      billing department or the bean counters. No denial of coverage due to pre-existing conditions

      or cancellation of policies for "unreported" minor health problems.

      5. Choice of physician. Most private plans restrict what doctors, other caregivers, or hospital

      you can use. Under a single payer system, patients have a choice, and the provider is assured

      a fair reimbursement.

      4. Prevention. By removing financial roadblocks, a single payer system encourages preventive

      care that lowers an individual's ultimate cost and pain and suffering when problems are

      neglected, and societal cost in the over utilization of emergency rooms or the spread of

      communicable diseases.

      3. Uniform benefits. No Cadillac plans for the wealthy and Pinto plans for everyone else,

      with high deductibles, limited services, caps on payments for care, and no protection in the

      event of a catastrophe. One level of comprehensive care no matter what size your wallet.

      2. Portability. Even if you are unemployed, or lose or change your job, your health coverage goes with you.

      1. Everybody in,nobody out. Universal means access to healthcare for everyone, period.

    379. Doug H says:

      Hey Garu,

      Why do you have to throw in the race card. You lose all credibility when you call people bigots just because they disagree with your "Saviour". Some people don't want the government controlling so much of their lives and B-HO has said that government is the answer. Well, Thomas Jefferson had a different take on that – the best government is one that governs least. Of course TJ was a white guy, what does he know?!

    380. Marge-----------Mich says:

      I am 80 years old..I might as well lay down and die right now.

    381. JC, Los Angeles says:

      In response to:

      Mark, OK

      Where are all the democrats who voted for Obama? Why aren’t they filling these comment sections with their glorious praise for Lord Obama now.

      Mark, I tried posting the Top Ten reasons we need health care reform NOW, but the moderators deleted it.

      Maybe that's why you don't see Obama supporters on this right-wing website.

    382. alfredwise south ca says:

      i think all elected goverment elected officals should be on social security like every body else

    383. Janet Burnett, Cinci says:

      During the summer of 2001, approximately 35 educators, psychologists, rabbis and students spent two weeks of intensive study and visiting six of the Holocaust sites. At the huge mounds of unknown victims at Bergan-Belsen, I broke down sobbing. Throughout the tour many if not all, both men and women, teenager and elderly, broke down asking the same question. Our question arose again on 9/11 and resounded throughout the days thereafter. "How could one person do this to another human being?"

      Now I know. Americans are now living in a replay of the 1930's. May the God, in whom we trust, have mercy on our souls.

    384. frances J may says:

      STOP THIS PLAN! STOP THIS MAN! OUR COUNTRY IS DOOMED WITH HIM!!

    385. ROG-DOGGER COLUMBUS, says:

      OBAMA CLAIMS THAT HE CARES –BUT LAST YEAR, DESPITE A MILLION $$$ INCOME THEY DONATED THE VAST SUM OF

      $400.00 DOLLARS – THE COST OF A WENDY'S VALUE ITEM A DAY.

    386. VinceP1974 says:

      These bills could say whatever in the world they want them to say.

      It doesn't matter until the Conference Meeting.. when Pelosi, the corpse, and Obama sit down to the write the real bill.

      Watch for the most sugar-coated, it-aint-to-cost-a-dime first versions to pass the Senate and the House.

      The real version comes later.

    387. PShoptaw - Memphis, says:

      He has no idea whats in this bill. I doubt he knows what is in the cap and trade bill. I also doubt he knows what he is doing. Who is calling the shots at the White House?

    388. Virginia, Raleigh, N says:

      My son lives in London and has private health insurance, (which the British are now encouraged to buy.) Last fall, he became very sick. It took his doctor three weeks to get tests that would take two days to get in the US. As a result, he lost a month of work. A month ago, he got Swine Flu. After taking Tamaflu, (which his dad, a doctor, gave him), he felt better, then got sicker. It took his doctor two weeks to tell him that he also had strep. If his father had not given him Amoxicillan to keep for emergencies, my son would have waited two weeks to be treated for what can be a very serious infection. If he had not taken the Amoxicillan, he might have ended up with an infection of his heart. Is this the kind of health care Americans want? While my husband did his medical training at Mayo Clinic, there was an ever present contingent of Canadian patients admitted for heart surgery, which they could not get at home. If they had not come to Mayo Clinic,they would have died. Where will Americans go to get life-saving treatment with rationed care? India? God help us.

    389. Joe, MD says:

      That's the spirit!

      Don't fight! Conform! Then move to the China. Garu, I am jealous of a person can proudly give away individual freedom just because obama said so. Oh, then call people here bigots…

    390. J. White, south Jers says:

      What does anyone realistically expect from an arrogant, apparently pathological liar? too harsh? Read on:

      This "not being familiar with…." smacks of his non-recollection of 20 years of spittle-laden racist hatred by a supposed "Reverend"?? Wright, or his long association with the terrorist/murderer Bil Ayers and his "spouse", the Emmanuels, and on and on.

      How can anyone even begin to accept ANYTHING this Empty Suit says as being factual?

      Why is it whenever someone does not agree with what the "Annointed One" says, that immediately he or she is labeled a "racist" by the news media? I am tired of that meaningless word. And, tired of his endless blathering about things which, it is apparent, that he knows nothing.

      As for the Kool-aid person's comments immediately above mine. "Believe"? in what- more failed socialist policies…like Europe where it has failed miserably? Where some low-level arrogant government twit is going to decide whether or not I or one of my loved ones receives the necessary medical treatment? If someone dies because of a "decision" that this low-level government twit makes, can we bring suit against him? Punish him in some fashion? There HAS to be a quid pro quo.

      Sir- name ONE SINGLE government program or Cabinet department that has ever been run or managed efficicently. Like a Disney fairy tale- there never has been a "Once upon a time….." ; and no reason to expect otherwise.

      "Believe"? The more things SEEM to CHANGE, the MORE they STAY THE SAME.

    391. david says:

      rob in ohio/pres.nancy biden is in charge

    392. DDC Oklahoma City says:

      You know Jimmy Carter is pleased with Obama for now there is a President people can say is worse than Jimmy Carter

    393. Jill Texas says:

      He is doing the best he can to take care of himself and set himself up as the savior of all. He doesn't care about the people, he cares about the power. He grew up believing government is the end all. He doesn't believe in the private sector. People need to get their heads out of the sand. Our health care may not be perfect, but it's the best there is. Government run anything never works!

    394. Daryl, Lomita Ca says:

      This moron is corrupted with power and it is all about him, not us and we will be the ones who will pay for it. I hope his policies from Healthcare, the economy and much more fail. It is amazing that he wants to sign bills that he and his teleprompter have not read.

      This shows we are in great danger of having this radical in the White House, there is no transparency, it was all a bunch of lies that came from that horse's mouth.

      Obama is a joke and cannot be trusted. An Audacity of Phoniness.

    395. Mary, Louisiana says:

      A good salesman knows his product backwards and forwards. How can obama sell a government healthcare takeover plan to the American citizens if he doesn't know what's in it?

      So his answer is to threaten, extort, strong arm, buy off and blackmail his own party members in order for them to support this bill just so he can go down in history as The One who revamped the world's best health care system?

      And he says it's not about HIM?

    396. William Haight, DeLa says:

      I am appalled at the direction my great country is headed in. The once supierior United States of America seems to be falling to something less than a 3rd rate country with policies and morals that brought down the great Roman empire in anchient times. Have we learned nothing from the history books????

    397. chris New York says:

      Obama has veto power, yes but not "line item veto" power, its all or nothing!! You can bet your life on it that he wants what ever comes down the pike. If this man is staking his legacy on this issue, one would think he might familiarize himself with EVERY LITTLE DETAIL!!! Its in the details where we ALL get screwed.

      Our system is not perfect we can all agree on that but its the best in the world. This man through the campaign and in many of his speeches over the years has used this word perfection in referrence to our nation over and over again. He scares the hell out of me with this mind set. Man is not perfect and we're not meant to be.

      I can't for the life of me understand how 40% of the people being polled have such confidence in the ability of the goverment to manage healthcare. What evidence can we look? The Feds are only good at collecting taxes and blowing up stuff, we should insist that they stick to that!!

    398. Tom, Pennsylvania says:

      The liberals in the House are trying to use slimy tactics to create a socialized medical system. If anyone doubts their motives, just look at the bill they are trying to ram through. The President is trying to force this bill through before people really get to read it, just like all the other major bills passed since his election. We are driving our country down a road of ruin and the conductor is asleep at the wheel. When are these guys in Washington goint to start listening to the will of the people instead of the lobbyists and their own warped sense of what is right and wrong for us.

    399. Kerin, Murfreesboro says:

      Garu, I think what you meant to say is that "His great DISservice to this nation will vault the USA to greater LOWS"

    400. Kathy Berrier says:

      This adminstation is trying to destroy the united states of america, Mr Obama does not know what he is doing, it is a personal agenda and all left wing. We have rights, this is like Nazi Germany, we are being led to slaughter,I for one will not take it it anymore.I bet he will not have this kind of insurance, he needs to be impeached, the whole senate and congress needs to go and start over. This is our country it does not belong to Mr Obama. God have mercy on our nation and our people.

    401. Chris, Atlanta says:

      I can't help but wonder what the LAMEstream media would be saying about his had it been Bush instead of Obama. America is degenerating in to a pathetic nation.

    402. chris New York says:

      Hey JC

      heres my rebut

      10)Like Michele Obama and her 350K board seat in a Chicago Hospital?

      9)Government setting prices? we are a free market stil arent we?

      8)the savings will come because the care will be rationed.

      7)California and Medicare are no examples to cite, they are both bankrupt

      6)Good point I would like to see that changed as well. However, what evidence do you have that a goverment burocrat is more cmpassionate than a corporate bean counter? Ill take the man interested in profit everytime.

      5) Not So!! choice will be gone. the desireable doctors interested in making a proper living will only take personal checks; unless of course we will start locking them up for it. In that case Im sure they will make career changes.

      4)the doctors rendered after the exodus will not be able to handle the flood; so preventative care will be all they do. And so the rationing will begin.

      3) Your dreaming

      2) that will be exactly the problem, you will be stuck with it, like everyone else. There will be no putting this genie back in the bottle.

      1) Everybody in Nobody out?? You scare me, we will all go down together . what ever happened to the freedom of choice???

      We have seen this before , we saw the movie , we know how this stuff ends. Free markets work best for all in the long run!!

    403. Peter, NC says:

      These are also my opinions, well said -Charles Ingwalson, Edina, Mn

      Until Congressmen and women, their families and their staffs plus the White House, it’s staff and their families are willing to join the public and agree to be a part of any health plan these people concoct I don’t believe a thing they tell me about how good this plan will be for me!!!

    404. William Carl, Texark says:

      This is what happens when the producers spend all their time working rather than keeping an eye on the henhouse.

    405. Texasguy01, Texas US says:

      Listening to the show on Obama care a point I think was missed is that nothing is so revealing as a euthanasia as a core component of Marxism. Obama and his minions are clearly Marxist. Marxisim is built on evolution which is a system that proclaims there is no God and as a result there is no spiritual accountability for human life. Human life thusly devalued can be discarded at will. It is the core of the abortion debate and now Obama is trying to move from abortion to end of life issues. If your spiritual core is evolution then humans have no value and removing them when deemed neccesary is judged as beneficial. This however is at fundimental odds with American ethics. For details look at Soviet purges of the 20's, Hitler using evolution to kill Jews and Eastern Europians, Chinese purges of the 60,s Pol Pot in Cambodia and The fall of Vietnam. Over 100 million people worldwide have paid the price for evolution based Marxism. Obama is trying to force a fundimental shift in American values away from the Christian ethics of America to the values of Secular Humanism based on Marxist philosophys. This is the real issue that people are not focusing on. Saul Alinksky Obama's mentor states that lying is needed to accomplish your goals then do it. Once again at odds with Christian ethics. Obama does not even care to wrap himself in the Bible to try and buy popularity. The real problem is we have elected someone to head a Christian based nation who is fundimentally opposed to those values and it must come to a fight. And that is taking place right now

    406. Zoezee says:

      Put the bill on a teleprompter so he can get familiar with it.

    407. ADM, NH says:

      Another article states how Democrats are “baffled,” and are still “frustrated” that they’re not getting more specific direction from him on health care. “We appreciate the rhetoric and his willingness to ratchet up the pressure but what most Democrats on the Hill are looking for is for the president to weigh in and make decisions on outstanding issues. Instead of sending out his people and saying the president isn’t ruling anything out, members would like a little bit of clarity on what he would support – especially on how to pay for his health reform bill". Obama is mentally incapable of working on the details. That would be work and I don't HAVE to do it. As a state and US senator, he never introduced one bill. He also doesn't care about the details because he doesn't care about it's effect on the American people and will accept any healthcare plan passed. As long as it expands government and furthers his socialist agenda, he will sign any bill put on his desk.

    408. Nicholas, Ohio says:

      Garu,

      Why are the people criticizing Obama bigots? I've read no bigoted statements at all from anyone. People are criticizing him based on his healthcare policy, not his race, gender or anything else that could warrant you calling them bigots.

      He is doing the best he can? You don't think that if he actually READ the healthcare plan he would be doing better? Obviously he is not doing the BEST he possibly could.

      'Believe!'? Empty rhetoric. The people here are pointing out why they don't agree with the president's policies. You haven't supported your position at all with facts details at all.

    409. Willie Pepper says:

      Would someone be kind enough to explain to me why the United States would be putting forth a healthcare plan that has been tried and failed everywhere it has been established?

      Are these morons SO arrogant that they believe that THEY are the only ones who can pull it off???

      Does anyone else feel like I do; that no one in Washington really knows what's going on or what they're doing????

    410. Sandy, Malibu CA says:

      From "When Atlas Shrugged"

      “So you think that money is the root of all evil?” said Francisco d’Anconia. “Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can’t exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?

      “When you accept money in payment for your effort, you do so only on the conviction that you will exchange it for the product of the effort of others. It is not the moochers or the looters who give value to money. Not an ocean of tears not all the guns in the world can transform those pieces of paper in your wallet into the bread you will need to survive tomorrow. Those pieces of paper, which should have been gold, are a token of honor–your claim upon the energy of the men who produce. Your wallet is your statement of hope that somewhere in the world around you there are men who will not default on that moral principle which is the root of money, Is this what you consider evil?

      “Have you ever looked for the root of production? Take a look at an electric generator and dare tell yourself that it was created by the muscular effort of unthinking brutes. Try to grow a seed of wheat without the knowledge left to you by men who had to discover it for the first time. Try to obtain your food by means of nothing but physical motions–and you’ll learn that man’s mind is the root of all the goods produced and of all the wealth that has ever existed on earth.

      “But you say that money is made by the strong at the expense of the weak? What strength do you mean? It is not the strength of guns or muscles. Wealth is the product of man’s capacity to think. Then is money made by the man who invents a motor at the expense of those who did not invent it? Is money made by the intelligent at the expense of the fools? By the able at the expense of the incompetent? By the ambitious at the expense of the lazy? Money is made–before it can be looted or mooched–made by the effort of every honest man, each to the extent of his ability. An honest man is one who knows that he can’t consume more than he has produced.’

      “To trade by means of money is the code of the men of good will. Money rests on the axiom that every man is the owner of his mind and his effort. Money allows no power to prescribe the value of your effort except the voluntary choice of the man who is willing to trade you his effort in return. Money permits you to obtain for your goods and your labor that which they are worth to the men who buy them, but no more. Money permits no deals except those to mutual benefit by the unforced judgment of the traders. Money demands of you the recognition that men must work for their own benefit, not for their own injury, for their gain, not their loss–the recognition that they are not beasts of burden, born to carry the weight of your misery–that you must offer them values, not wounds–that the common bond among men is not the exchange of suffering, but the exchange of goods. Money demands that you sell, not your weakness to men’s stupidity, but your talent to their reason; it demands that you buy, not the shoddiest they offer, but the best that your money can find. And when men live by trade–with reason, not force, as their final arbiter–it is the best product that wins, the best performance, the man of best judgment and highest ability–and the degree of a man’s productiveness is the degree of his reward. This is the code of existence whose tool and symbol is money. Is this what you consider evil?

      “But money is only a tool. It will take you wherever you wish, but it will not replace you as the driver. It will give you the means for the satisfaction of your desires, but it will not provide you with desires. Money is the scourge of the men who attempt to reverse the law of causality–the men who seek to replace the mind by seizing the products of the mind.

      “Money will not purchase happiness for the man who has no concept of what he wants: money will not give him a code of values, if he’s evaded the knowledge of what to value, and it will not provide him with a purpose, if he’s evaded the choice of what to seek. Money will not buy intelligence for the fool, or admiration for the coward, or respect for the incompetent. The man who attempts to purchase the brains of his superiors to serve him, with his money replacing his judgment, ends up by becoming the victim of his inferiors. The men of intelligence desert him, but the cheats and the frauds come flocking to him, drawn by a law which he has not discovered: that no man may be smaller than his money. Is this the reason why you call it evil?

      “Only the man who does not need it, is fit to inherit wealth–the man who would make his own fortune no matter where he started. If an heir is equal to his money, it serves him; if not, it destroys him. But you look on and you cry that money corrupted him. Did it? Or did he corrupt his money? Do not envy a worthless heir; his wealth is not yours and you would have done no better with it. Do not think that it should have been distributed among you; loading the world with fifty parasites instead of one, would not bring back the dead virtue which was the fortune. Money is a living power that dies without its root. Money will not serve the mind that cannot match it. Is this the reason why you call it evil?

      “Money is your means of survival. The verdict you pronounce upon the source of your livelihood is the verdict you pronounce upon your life. If the source is corrupt, you have damned your own existence. Did you get your money by fraud? By pandering to men’s vices or men’s stupidity? By catering to fools, in the hope of getting more than your ability deserves? By lowering your standards? By doing work you despise for purchasers you scorn? If so, then your money will not give you a moment’s or a penny’s worth of joy. Then all the things you buy will become, not a tribute to you, but a reproach; not an achievement, but a reminder of shame. Then you’ll scream that money is evil. Evil, because it would not pinch-hit for your self-respect? Evil, because it would not let you enjoy your depravity? Is this the root of your hatred of money?

      “Money will always remain an effect and refuse to replace you as the cause. Money is the product of virtue, but it will not give you virtue and it will not redeem your vices. Money will not give you the unearned, neither in matter nor in spirit. Is this the root of your hatred of money?

      “Or did you say it’s the love of money that’s the root of all evil? To love a thing is to know and love its nature. To love money is to know and love the fact that money is the creation of the best power within you, and your passkey to trade your effort for the effort of the best among men. It’s the person who would sell his soul for a nickel, who is loudest in proclaiming his hatred of money–and he has good reason to hate it. The lovers of money are willing to work for it. They know they are able to deserve it.

      “Let me give you a tip on a clue to men’s characters: the man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.

      “Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper’s bell of an approaching looter. So long as men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another–their only substitute, if they abandon money, is the muzzle of a gun.

      “But money demands of you the highest virtues, if you wish to make it or to keep it. Men who have no courage, pride or self-esteem, men who have no moral sense of their right to their money and are not willing to defend it as they defend their life, men who apologize for being rich–will not remain rich for long. They are the natural bait for the swarms of looters that stay under rocks for centuries, but come crawling out at the first smell of a man who begs to be forgiven for the guilt of owning wealth. They will hasten to relieve him of the guilt–and of his life, as he deserves.

      “Then you will see the rise of the men of the double standard–the men who live by force, yet count on those who live by trade to create the value of their looted money–the men who are the hitchhikers of virtue. In a moral society, these are the criminals, and the statutes are written to protect you against them. But when a society establishes criminals-by-right and looters-by-law–men who use force to seize the wealth of disarmed victims–then money becomes its creators’ avenger. Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once they’ve passed a law to disarm them. But their loot becomes the magnet for other looters, who get it from them as they got it. Then the race goes, not to the ablest at production, but to those most ruthless at brutality. When force is the standard, the murderer wins over the pickpocket. And then that society vanishes, in a spread of ruins and slaughter.

      “Do you wish to know whether that day is coming? Watch money. Money is the barometer of a society’s virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion–when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing–when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors–when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you–when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice–you may know that your society is doomed. Money is so noble a medium that is does not compete with guns and it does not make terms with brutality. It will not permit a country to survive as half-property, half-loot.

      “Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men’s protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values. Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it bounces, marked, ‘Account overdrawn.’

      “When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, ‘Who is destroying the world? You are.

      “You stand in the midst of the greatest achievements of the greatest productive civilization and you wonder why it’s crumbling around you, while you’re damning its life-blood–money. You look upon money as the savages did before you, and you wonder why the jungle is creeping back to the edge of your cities. Throughout men’s history, money was always seized by looters of one brand or another, whose names changed, but whose method remained the same: to seize wealth by force and to keep the producers bound, demeaned, defamed, deprived of honor. That phrase about the evil of money, which you mouth with such righteous recklessness, comes from a time when wealth was produced by the labor of slaves–slaves who repeated the motions once discovered by somebody’s mind and left unimproved for centuries. So long as production was ruled by force, and wealth was obtained by conquest, there was little to conquer, Yet through all the centuries of stagnation and starvation, men exalted the looters, as aristocrats of the sword, as aristocrats of birth, as aristocrats of the bureau, and despised the producers, as slaves, as traders, as shopkeepers–as industrialists.

      “To the glory of mankind, there was, for the first and only time in history, a country of money–and I have no higher, more reverent tribute to pay to America, for this means: a country of reason, justice, freedom, production, achievement. For the first time, man’s mind and money were set free, and there were no fortunes-by-conquest, but only fortunes-by-work, and instead of swordsmen and slaves, there appeared the real maker of wealth, the greatest worker, the highest type of human being–the self-made man–the American industrialist.

      “If you ask me to name the proudest distinction of Americans, I would choose–because it contains all the others–the fact that they were the people who created the phrase ‘to make money.’ No other language or nation had ever used these words before; men had always thought of wealth as a static quantity–to be seized, begged, inherited, shared, looted or obtained as a favor. Americans were the first to understand that wealth has to be created. The words ‘to make money’ hold the essence of human morality.

      “Yet these were the words for which Americans were denounced by the rotted cultures of the looters’ continents. Now the looters’ credo has brought you to regard your proudest achievements as a hallmark of shame, your prosperity as guilt, your greatest men, the industrialists, as blackguards, and your magnificent factories as the product and property of muscular labor, the labor of whip-driven slaves, like the pyramids of Egypt. The rotter who simpers that he sees no difference between the power of the dollar and the power of the whip, ought to learn the difference on his own hide– as, I think, he will.

      “Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Blood, whips and guns–or dollars. Take your choice–there is no other–and your time is running out.”

      The above is an excerpt from Atlas Shrugged, © Copyright, 1957, by Ayn Rand. It is reprinted with permission from the Estate of Ayn Rand.

      Russian born American novelist Ayn Rand is author of Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead and is originator of the philosophy of Objectivism. You can learn more about her life and philosophy at the website of the Ayn Rand Institute.

    411. EL, Florida says:

      GARU, you have to be kidding!!!

    412. dagg, Aurora, IL says:

      Finally some numbers on the millions of Americans that will lose their insurance so the few can be covered.

      Education, insurance, etc…The strategy being proposed by this administration is a typical Democrat response to a problem. Instead of attempting to "lift up" the uninsured to an insured status, the Democrats prefer to "push down" the majority of Americans so the few can be covered.

      Its the same with education. Instead of duplicating what "good" schools are doing and requiring "bad" schools to do the same. The Dems look at the "bad" schools, then force the "good" schools to reform to what the "bad" schools are teaching so as to be equal. Its exactly the opposite of what should be happening.

    413. Chris, Wisconsin says:

      Garu:

      Are you trying to say that anyone who doesn't agree with Obama policy is a "bigot"?

    414. OldSkeptic, Chicago says:

      What? The legislation is kept secret from the public and their representatives? Sounds like the making of a dictatorship. We need not know what is best for us, let the august leader do it. What shame… The Public is not to be trusted.

    415. Ken Dugas, Houston T says:

      I believe that if the health care package is good for the American Public, then all of the Civil Service workers and Politicans should have to have the same coverage. Let's see how that would fly if they have to be under the same plan.

    416. ADM, NH says:

      Texasguy01, very well stated and something to think about. I remember as a kid learning that religious activities were monitored and controlled in the old Russia.

    417. L.Janssen says:

      His best is far below anyones hopes.The greater heights are the debts he's piled up for our children for generations.All this from someone who refuses to qualify himself to be Pres.or Senator of this country.Why would anyone spend nearly a million to keep this info from our American people.That answer is so obvious.Take away the millions of illegals who are also in the plan to receive free health care and the numbers begin to show a much lesser need for uninsured coverage.Sort of makes "Obamas" plan quickly shown in a different light.The media keeps calling it Obamas' health plan but he doesn't know what's in it!!The lies and deceipt are so obvious.Wake up America!Stop the plan and replace all these corrupt politicians at the next elections.God help us through this mess.

    418. Sharon,Tx says:

      Lord, please get Obama out of office!!! He is not going to help the senior cetizens at all.

    419. xinunus, Catskill says:

      OBAMA EATS ENDANGERED BELUGA STURGEON WITH PUTIN

      Quote:

      Russian agencies, quoting the government's press service, said Putin treated Obama to black caviar with sour cream, smoked beluga with pancakes and tea made in the traditional Russian samovar, a big coal-fired kettle.

      http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-BarackObama/id

      http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersComService_

      WIKIPEDIA:

      ————–

      IUCN classifies the beluga as Endangered. It is a protected species listed in appendix III of the Bern Convention and its trade is restricted under CITES appendix II. The Mediterranean population is strongly protected under appendix II of the Bern Convention, prohibiting any intentional killing of these fish.

      The United States Fish and Wildlife Service has banned imports of Beluga Caviar and other beluga products from the Caspian Sea since October 6, 2005.

    420. xinunus, Catskill says:

      OBAMA EATS ENDANGERED BELUGA STURGEON WITH PUTIN

      Quote:

      Russian agencies, quoting the government's press service, said Putin treated Obama to black caviar with sour cream, smoked beluga with pancakes and tea made in the traditional Russian samovar, a big coal-fired kettle.

      http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-BarackObama/id

      http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersComService_

      WIKIPEDIA:

      ————–

      IUCN classifies the beluga as Endangered. It is a protected species listed in appendix III of the Bern Convention and its trade is restricted under CITES appendix II. The Mediterranean population is strongly protected under appendix II of the Bern Convention, prohibiting any intentional killing of these fish.

      The United States Fish and Wildlife Service has banned imports of Beluga Caviar and other beluga products from the Caspian Sea since October 6, 2005

    421. Mike Sheahen, Hickor says:

      Comments appear which were posted before and after mine, but not mine? I'm posting mine again!

      As the actions and words of his and those of his Comrades show, why would and should Obama have to read any legislation for government control and dependence, such as for anything like his so-called “health care” plan, even to his own government control and dependence programmed supporters, when any such plans and legislation have a nasty habit of being, and proving to be, after all, nothing but government elitist and statist power and money-grabs, to be pushed and imposed by any and all means possible, including more of the same old course of government elitist and statist political favoritism, disinformation, promise and rule-breaking, and perhaps another contemptuously arrogant and condescending use of a speed reader?

      So that he can properly defend his plan and such legislation in public?

      As the actions and words of Obama and his Comrades show, they don’t really want to have to defend any government power and money-grabs, and in fact there is no defending such indefensible government power and money-grabs.

    422. Concerned Senior, VA says:

      This plan IS a nightmare and it's obvious why it's not for the politicians that are supposed to be voting for our best interest. Do you think that Senator Kennedy would be receiving the care he is getting right now if he was under the govt plan? No way! HMOs only cover necessities. If you've ever been under an HMO, you know that it isn't extensive care — that's why they're called "Health Maintenance" orgs. Do you really want to have to see your "primary care" doctor in order to get a "referral" for a specialist? And this "primary care" dr will have to be "govt approved" and agree to sign a contract with the govt. This needs to be stopped now before the electronic records system is put in place and the "Health Care Administration" is set up under the Surgeon General (a whole new topic). Once you have another govt agency in place, just try and get it closed down! Do we really want the govt making decisions for us on what care we will and won't get? Read the bill, people. It's for "cost effective" procedures! And ACORN will be one of the "community organizations" involved in running this (like they'll be running the next census). We need to act NOW and stop this bill before our healthcare goes down the tubes, and we look like every other European country that has socialism. Yes, there IS a reason why every other country sees their citizens coming to America for healthcare – because we have the best care available in the world! That will absolutely end.

    423. Teg, Seattle says:

      Obama has an agenda, facts do not matter. He is an idealog. He wants to restructure America.

    424. Sandy, NC says:

      Here are two places to go should you care to read the complete bill. I have. That's more than we can say about our president.

      As to being able to keep your present coverage "PERIOD" as Mr. Obama likes to say, the topic is covered at the top of page 16 in this .pdf file.

      http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-0714

      The same topic in this file, along with some interesting comments is in Section 102.

      http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text

    425. Dave, New Jersey says:

      You're missing the BIG point.

      Obama and the Congressional majority do not know nor care about what is in the socialized medicine Healthcare bill. The details do not matter to them because they truly are NOT concerned about your healthcare. All that matters to them is their POWER…. The power to control more of your daily life, and the power to make you more dependent on the government. This is enslavement, pure and simple… but it's marketed to the masses as CHANGE and HOPE.

      If you think that Obama and Congress truly care about your health, then you are a deluded fool.

      P.S. "Lemmy" is correct when he points out that the Republicans are sitting back and twiddling their thumbs, offering no alternative, no agenda, no plan, no nothing.

    426. Jared, Houston, Tx says:

      I'm not an Obama supporter, but I have to point the obvious fallacy out that the Heritage Foundation is making:

      "You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about" is not the same as "Obama Admits He’s “Not Familiar” With House Bill." To not be familiar with a provision is not the same as not being familiar with the bill.

      The argument the article tries to make is of the form:

      1) The president admits he is not familiar with a provision of a bill.

      2) Not being familiar with a particular provision of a bill is the same as not being familiar with the bill in general.

      3) Thus, Obama is not familiar with the bill, in general.

      For those who don't know how to analyze an argument, there is a glaring assumption upon which this argument rests, which is sentence "2". For this argument to be complete (and the assumption to be true) there would have to be evidence directly showing that not being familiar with a particular provision is the same as not being familiar with the entire bill. In fact, the only way for this argument to be sound, based on evidence provided in "1", is if the provision being discussed is the entire bill. If the provision being discussed where the entire bill and Obama wasn't familiar with it then you could logically deduce that Obama was not familiar with the bill. If this were true, it would also be silly to call it a provision.

      I defy you to find anyone who can memorize a constantly changing, thousand-page, document, and cite it by numbered clause and section even through the changes. This would be like me writing a thousand-page book a couple of days ago and then constantly make changes to it, giving you copies, and then criticizing you for not being familiar with page 567, sentence 3. Heck, I'd put my bottom dollar down that no one in this office could do that with any of the policies we sell.

      Don't get me wrong, I don't think universal health care is a good idea, but I also don’t believe in letting other people define the events in my world for me.

    427. Kathy Berrier NORTH says:

      I SAW MY DOCTOR THIS AFTERNOON, AND HE THINKS WHAT I THINK THIS BILL IS NOT WORTH THE PAPER IT WAS WRITTEN ON. THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS AN AGENDA, DESTROY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, BREAK US DOWN, MAKE US SOCIALIST AND OWNED BY OTHER COUTRIES. HE SHOULD RESIGN OR BE IMPEACHED.

      MAKE NO MISTAKE THIS IS A HOSTILE TAKEOVER WITH A FAKE SMILE, AND A SLICK WILLY, WITH A BUNCH OF BULLY'S TO BACK HIM UP. ENOUGH OF THIS INSANITY, NO MORE BREAKING OF ARMS, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

    428. Zach, Birmingham says:

      I can't wait to see how much money Obama will waste tomorrow!!

    429. John,WV says:

      And this character is the 'president of The United States of America'? Pray people pray!

    430. John, LA says:

      This is great! Push to pass the Obamacare bill that he did not read before August break!!! What is he pushing? Why is he pushing? Is he too busy touring the world to do his job? Or at least read the bill he is soooo passionate about. Do we really want out of work lawyers telling us what our doctors can and cannot do? Lawyers that have no idea what doctors do, or read what doctor read? This is a mistake!

      What if:

      What if Obama does not read this bill and passes it, but this bill includes microwaving children to death under 8 years of age?

      What if this bill indicates that hospital procedures can only addressed when congress is in session and not when they are on all of their breaks?

      What if this bill allows congress to vote raises for themselves, but they have to sacrifice care to the public?

      This would be a great thing to remember this clown by…

      Additionally, these so called republicans are sitting by trying to compromise to keep their job. Will this health care bill affect them? NO! Will they keep their doctors and get any TYPE of health care they want? YES!

      We as Americans need to get rid of all of these clowns and start over. NO LAYWERS!!! Get REAL Americans in office that do not fall for idolization from running for president. Someone who can tell us what these bills are in plain language and who will actually read what they are so passionate about? NO FLASH CARDS. NO TELE-PROMPTERS.

    431. Furious College Stud says:

      It's disconcerting to me that Americans are so easily fooled by the president. He offers choice. His choice is "my way or the highway" He talks about our rights. Our rights were designed to protect us FROM the government, not to outline what we're entitled to. In this country, we WORK for what we have. It's not government handouts. What government run organization has ever succeeded? Is it the US mail, medicare, social security?

    432. Lynn B. DeSpain says:

      Sounds like a used car salesman to me.

      Hozro

    433. indiana jim, indiana says:

      Health care services like eye surgery have gotten better and prices have fallen because market competition is much more fully "in play" than in areas of medicine where Medicaid, Medicare, and tax exempt, state-specific insurance plans are fully "in play." That is, the areas where government's footprint upon medicine is most visible (that is, where market competition is most constrained) are inefficient. Obama says rightly that there are problems; yes there are. But does Obama look for the underlying causes (i.e., gov. restrictions on interstate competition between insurers, Medicaid, Medicare, the tax exemption for insurance gotten via employment)???? NO, Obama does not. Obama procedes directly to a solution without looking at the cause. It is absolutely no surprise that he did not read the Bill, is it?

      What is wrong with Obama's not looking at the cause, or not concerning himself with it? Well, everything. To use a medical example, suppose a person goes to his/her doctor complaining of a sore throat. Suppose that doctor doesn't concern himself with the cause and suggest that the patient might want to take some asprin and "call me in the morning." What if the sore throat turns out to be the result of swallowing a sharp object unknowingly??

      A good doctor, by definition, must carefully assess causes before making recommendations to be true to their crede: First, do no harm. A president who does neither considers the impetus for, nor details of, legislation he advocates regarding 15% of the economy like a doctor gone mad as the literary Doctor Frankenstein.

    434. Roger S., Ma. says:

      Sandy, Malibu, CA:

      Great posting Francisco's speech about the meaning of money from "Atlas Shrugged"! Everybody on these pages needs to read it twice. For emphasis, I have "excerpted" the part most relevant to these comments and to what we have been recently experiencing in our country. This, I believe, everybody here should read at least thrice, and memorize! The American people are being subjected, right now, to an unspeakably evil process which began much earlier but is just now reaching culmination. I hope the Ayn Rand Institute will forgive me for not having the time to seek their specific permission in this case.

      "Then you will see the rise of the men of the double standard–the men who live by force, yet count on those who live by trade to create the value of their looted money–the men who are the hitchhikers of virtue. In a moral society, these are the criminals, and the statutes are written to protect you against them. But when a society establishes criminals-by-right and looters-by-law–men who use force to seize the wealth of disarmed victims–then money becomes its creators’ avenger. Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once they’ve passed a law to disarm them. But their loot becomes the magnet for other looters, who get it from them as they got it. Then the race goes, not to the ablest at production, but to those most ruthless at brutality. When force is the standard, the murderer wins over the pickpocket. And then that society vanishes, in a spread of ruins and slaughter."

      “Do you wish to know whether that day is coming? Watch money. Money is the barometer of a society’s virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion–when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing–when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors–when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you–when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice–you may know that your society is doomed. Money is so noble a medium that is does not compete with guns and it does not make terms with brutality. It will not permit a country to survive as half-property, half-loot."

      “Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men’s protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values. Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it bounces, marked, ‘Account overdrawn.’"

      We need to start recall petitions and impeachment proceedings against a fair number in Washington and elsewhere who seem to think this will all "blow over" and we will go away and forget; that they will then be able to carry on their "business" as usual. We need to settle once and for all their mistaken notion that it is THEIR business. It is NOT. It is OURS. They need to be told that to be paid they are to serve; but that they can serve only contingent on "good behavior" WE define.

      Thanks.

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    436. cool easy says:

      there are things in this article NOT true to fact. I am mixed/pulled between both parties, however, I just listen to the president clearly go over many things in this article, and questions by press. Several things in this article are NOT to real fact.

    437. Don Griffin, El Paso says:

      I believe that the health bill could pass but the lower income people should help pay also. Thats the people its going to benefit most. By lowering the Earned Income credit the federal government should generate enough income to almost pay for it yearly. I don't think that we should just Robin Hood the rich.

    438. Frank in Georgia says:

      From the previous post of mine….

      "But the problem is………THEY think that way…..the blacks dont (as a whole)…..and in their minds YOU have handed THEM the reigns to the chariot….THEY are YOUR boss, THEY tell YOU what to do, when to do it and why to do it…"

      Correction : It should read 'blacks do (as a whole)….'

      I apologize for the foul up…..but you cant expect too much from me after Ive spilled my coffee on my desk and tipped the lamp over….all in one second….*smile*…

    439. Andrew Breza, Virgin says:

      I completely agree!

    440. Gina Graysneck, Weat says:

      I find Pres. Obama despicable! He has disgraced and is literally destroying our great country. Everyday I pray that God will create obstacles that these idiots in Washington will have to overcome in order to get new legislation passed. Pres. Obama hasn't got a clue what this Healthcare bill contains and doesn't care about the people he represents. I pledge to fight him and those other idiots in Wash. with every thing I have in me! If I wanted to live in a socialist country (and that's the direction Obama is heading us in), I'd move to one. Please, fellow Americans, don't be misled by Obama!

    441. Dez, Orlando, FL says:

      It never ceases to amaze me what you people end up spending your time arguing about. At this point it is reflexive. Doesn't make us much different than automatons. Of course that is the best place to be isn't it. Never thinking for ourselves, convinced we are making a decision to follow the talking heads into the walrus' mouth.

    442. John, Tallahassee, F says:

      What I am beginning to wonder is if the President has placed his radical agenda at a higher level of priority than his own re-election? Will he continue to pursue extremely unpopular policies at the expense of his re-election chances?

    443. ANONYMOUS AMERICAN J says:

      When I first saw him, I was amazed.

      I fell for his fake smile and phony promises.

      Now I learned that the pretty man is an arrogant, self-centered photogenic sociopath who can beautifully read lines that other people write for him.

      VOTE HIM OUT!

      VOTE ALL OF THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL SOCIALIST POLITICAL CORRECTNESS PARTY thugs OUT and their tagalong REPUBLICAN ELITES WHO JOIN WITH THEM ( THEY ARE ALMOST ALL ELITISTS ANYWAY)–VOTE THEM OUT TOO!

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    445. Taxpayer_For_Change says:

      This post is in regards to multiple atrocities that are effecting our country. As a legally born, non-criminal American, I have rights in America. One of those rights is the freedom of speech, therefore, I am exercising my right of free speech to provide my opinion and the opinion of multiple other Legally born and legally immigrated Americans. The Democrat party has taken things to a whole new, unbelievable level. Pushing through bills and passing legislations that act against my rights as an American. Being an American is about freedom, choice and desire. The government has overstepped its bounds multiple times; however, now is forcing something upon Americans, that we don't want. You have passed multiple Spending packages to help the "Economy"; however, none of it has happened. Jobs continue to go away, people continue to go hungry, houses continue to be foreclosed upon and the nations deficit continues to grow. The TARP was passed to help rebuild the financial, mortgage and automobile industries. The "Stimulus" package was passed to rebuild the infrastructure and the economy; however Democrats took advantage of it to fund their "Pet" projects. Had it been a true "Stimulus" Package, the money would have been given to the individuals that have the ability to improve the economy; The hardworking, tax payers of America. Because after all a successful economy is based on growth. The current government is not helping the economy or Americans, it is Enabling the illegal immigrants and welfare recipients. If we took away welfare from everyone that is not in "extreme need", it would force people to get a job and support themselves and their families. In turn that would lower taxes for Americans and increase revenue for both state and federal government. If we did away with Earned Income Credit and rewarding people for not earning money, that is more revenue for the government. If instead of passing out taxpayers money like a whole new episode of deal or no deal for politicians, they had spread the money out to actual taxpayers; people could have paid their mortgages, credit cards and other debts or even bought a new car; thus saving the financial, automobile and mortgage industries. All that needed to be done was to place a stipulation on the funds. If the funds were not spent on debt, mortgage or automobiles; then it is taxable, all being reported on income taxes and needing to be accounted for.

      You want to take away my parents' Medicare, something that they have paid into for over 50 years. Like every other working, Tax paying American, money is deducted every paycheck to compensate for the Medicare that is received after retirement; however, the Medicare fund is broke. Let me start off by saying that one reason the Medicare fund may be broke is due to the government overstepping theirs bounds. If the government had kept their hands out of the Medicare coffer, the fund would not be depleted. They have pulled funds from Medicare to fund other areas; such as WELFARE. Instead of reworking the areas that need to be reworked, the democrats are pushing for more government control. Why should Americans trust the government to run additional programs, when they are not able to run the ones that they already control? While I understand that a change does need to take place, this was not the change we had hoped for or were promised. Maybe if people were held accountable for their own future; the change that America needs, would come.

      This letter is intended to advise all current and future politicians, that I will be advocating as a hard working, tax paying, American citizen with rights, against anyone that has voted "Yes" for the TARP, "Stimulus", or Healthcare Reform bill. As a registered voter, I have a say in one state; however, as an American Citizen, I will take a stand in all.

      With Warm Regards,

      (A Registered Voter)

    446. Glodean Gates, San M says:

      Obama's objective is control of every phase of our lives and he can achieve that with having our medical records inputted into a national database (part of the TARP plan already) and by controlling national health care which will tell us and our doctors what is allowed and what isn't.

      Anyone older than 50 should be aware because the goal of "cost reduction" includes the goal of telling older people they should "take a pill" instead of having surgery. Obama said that in a recent press conference. Beware.

    447. Charles Van Way, Kan says:

      Well, we elected the most liberal Senator to the Presidency. What did we expect? Think of this as a national hangover after a binge of feel-good voting.

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    449. Doyal A. Patterson says:

      Every Congressman and Senator needs to read every

      bill before they vote on it, In the case of Gov-

      ernment run Health care, we don't it, we can't afford it. we already have the best health care in the world, all that neeeds to be done is stop

      the back breaking law suits. that costs the Dr's

      and hosoitals too much money to buy their Errors and Omission Insurance to protect against such law suits ,AND get the cost for tests and the number of tests run down. and cost of hospital stays down. This reduction in law suits would go a long way in reducing premiums!!

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    451. Art Hulme Tampa Flor says:

      Healthcare costs what it does because we are already paying for those who do not have insurance. Is anyone ever refused healthcare at any hospital? No. The healthcare system actually works just fine as it is. With the present economic conditions it is absolutely stupid to borrow a trillion dollars against our future generation to fix something that doesn't need fixing. Furthermore, Government Health Care would be counter productive to economic recovery. It has always been a motivation to get a fulltime job that provides benefits. Social Health Care System takes that motivation away. We can not afford to sell our children's future. A couple of relevant quotes, “Avoiding likewise the accumulation of debt, not only by shunning occasions of expense, but by vigorous exertions in time of peace to discharge the debts which unavoidable wars have occasioned, not ungenerously throwing upon posterity the burthen whic”, George Washington quotes (American commander in chief of the colonial armies in the American Revolution (1775-83) and subsequently 1st US President (1789-97), 1732-1799). “Debt is the slavery of the free”,Publilius Syrus quotes (Roman author, 1st century B.C.). We are heading down a dangerous path if Obama's agenda are voted in. God Bless America. Sincerely, Art

    452. Pinko Pete says:

      AHHH I was trying to forget the fear the Repubs was doling out for 8 years of the golden boy Bush. Now apparently since in office only 6 months or so Obama as not fixed everything to the status quo and is slowly trying to untangle this mess lots of folks are screaming like gut shot monkeys. if you are so afraid of the health care you must like the price of the current form of health care. I think the GOP version is the HMO model pushed in the '80s. but none of them have the HMO they like the full meal deal. and as far as tort reform yeah I think we need to protect the helpless ins co. from the big bad people ( the non rich folks) that are trying to get money from malpratice and wrongful death suits.

    453. Art Hulme says:

      Selling our future

      Healthcare costs what it does because we are already paying for those who do not have insurance. Is anyone ever refused healthcare at any hospital? No. The healthcare system actually works just fine as it is. With the present economic conditions it is absolutely stupid to borrow a trillion dollars against our future generation to fix something that doesn’t need fixing. Furthermore, Government Health Care would be counter productive to economic recovery. It has always been a motivation to get a fulltime job that provides benefits. Social Health Care System takes that motivation away. We can not afford to sell our children’s future. A couple of relevant quotes, “Avoiding likewise the accumulation of debt, not only by shunning occasions of expense, but by vigorous exertions in time of peace to discharge the debts which unavoidable wars have occasioned, not ungenerously throwing upon posterity the burthen whic”, George Washington quotes (American commander in chief of the colonial armies in the American Revolution (1775-83) and subsequently 1st US President (1789-97), 1732-1799). “Debt is the slavery of the free”,Publilius Syrus quotes (Roman author, 1st century B.C.). We are heading down a dangerous path if Obama’s agenda are voted in. God Bless America. Sincerely, Art

    454. RC, Atlanta GA says:

      Trying 2 rush & strong-arm passage of a bloated monstrosity of a so-called health care bill that was whipped together faster than the speed of light & is 1018 pages of complicated legalese – a little redundancy, hawhawhaw! – is blatant legislative malpractice.

    455. patti columbus ohio says:

      can you send an email list of the senatores and congress who I can overload with my opinion of no confidence in the present adm and the economy ruining adventure into governmant run healthcare. I work in the medical (25 yrs), this will completely devistate h.c. High government people won't have to worry, it is everyone else who will.

    456. Eric H. St. Louis says:

      This bill simply cannot go through.

    457. Ron California says:

      It all comes down to just a few things.

      1. There are no leaders in Washington and Obama is… not even close.

      2. Nobody seems to want to fix the true problems.

      It is just easier to fix problems with more money or what ever is deemed they need more of. Where are the true thinkers? . The answers to our country’s problems are in the country, not Washington.

      I was asked, “So you think YOU could do a better job than President Obama?” I replied, with confidence, “YES” and I'm probably more qualified then him as well.

    458. Tom Nelson Perris, says:

      I think Obamacare is going to be a disaster, like a lion loose in the house.

      His plan is going to set up a "Kelly Blue Book" of human worth. They will pull up the page corresponding to your age and see what you are worth. The list of options for health will get shorter as you age. After a point (say 70 year of age) you will be totaled and told to go home. That is the way it is in England. You are not worth the expenditure. As costs rise the age may go down. Then you will see the life expectancy of the United States start to fall.

      If he has no idea of what is in the bill, why does he want it to pass so fast…because his popularity is steadily falling & he may never get it if it isn't done soon.

      He took longer than this to determine what kind of DOG he wanted.

      For Gods sake isn't the population of the US at least as important as his DOG?

    459. Cameron Kuss, USA says:

      On July 21, the Drudge Report, the Heritage Foundation's blog The Foundry, and Rush Limbaugh all falsely claimed that during a July 20 blogger conference call the President admitted he doesn't know what's in the House health care bill. A blogger asked Obama to comment on a claim made in a July 15 Investor's Business Daily editorial that the bill "will make individual private medical insurance illegal." He was being overly polite; he should have said "That's an lie!"

      * You all at The Foundry made it clear: there is no provision in the bill outlawing private health insurance. But

      Limbaugh regurgitated IBD editorial and lied saying that the House bill "Will make individual private medical insurance illegal. It will. It will."

      Semper Fi to Corps, Country, and the Truth

    460. Jermaine Tobey says:

      President Obama did not flatly admit that he had not read the bill (and I am going by your own reporting of what he said). What he said is that he wasn't familiar with a certain provision of the bill that was being referred to. I've read many things in my life, and if someone was to bring up something in a thing I've read, I cannot guarantee you that I'd be familiar with it, even having read it before.

      Saying one isn't familiar with a thing is not the same, by any stretch of the imagination, as saying that said thing was not read at all.

      When Obama said that he wasn't familiar with that provision, it was his own unique way (and we should all, by now, be used to Obama, and others, speaking in ways like this) of saying that it isn't true. As you point out yourselves, it doesn't outright outlaw private insurance. That provision only does what you say it will by looking through the biased view of your eyes.

    461. OOBC says:

      True due-diligence and sound analytical tools, are the only approach and methodology needed, at reaching positive results regarding a Healthcare delivery system and tackling the complexities associated with it.

      I can relate to Mike Ross (D) cautious reasoning and recognition that, thorough due-diligence is mandatory for this bill to be properly created and effectively implemented.

      Medicaid/Medicare should give anyone cause for concern, regarding how this insurance should be structured and how it is paid for, without unfairly penalizing those, who can least afford it.

      Small Businesses are still suffering from Sarbanes-Oxley, and they come up with the payroll game. Seems to me, they don't care if jobs are created, $500K isn't a bargain in my view.

      In fact,this seems to be an indicator of health care 'tsunami' to come.

      We need vigilence going forward. We seem not to have the expertise needed to craft something cost-effective and service provider friendly and competitive, to produce a desired outcome.

      One must be careful of what one wishes for, and Universal 'Canadian' Health (UHC) care isn't the answer.

      If you want the twilight zone keep pushing UHC, think you got HC problems now? You have no idea.

      I did thorough research,analyzation, and verification on the Canadian (Ontario) Health Care System. This activity took place during in-dept conversations with healthcare officials in Toronto regarding the Canadian Workers' Compensation System.

    462. OOBC says:

      Re:Paul (Jul 21 '09)Comment

      Please tell us your on ritalin, or some other form of Meth drug?

      If not, we'll be reporting you to the FBI and Justice Department (DOJ). We're sure the CIA is well ahead of us, and our serious concerns about you.

      May I ask, when was the last time you paid taxes?

      Your written prose, most certainly qualifies as a person of interest (threat to the security of our President and the United States of America).

      We will definately see to it that they place you, and those associated with you (your ideology), on the domestic terrorist list.

      Your rhetoric is far beyond 'WACO', 'White Supremist' or the 'Michigan Militia' or normalcy.

      'Desperate people do Desperate things'.

      But we can't afford to have 'Loose Cannons' meander, without a tether.

    463. Pat C, Phoenix, Ax says:

      Does anyone know how to see a copy of this junk, oh I do mean the obamacare thing. (cannot use caps to refer to someone I have no respect) Now back to the great pretender. Until as some of you have written that the freeloaders in DC give up their rights to what they will have and take what is being pushed down our throats to heck with this bill altogether. The folks in DC since the 60's have raided Soc.Sec.invented Medicare and allowed fraudulent access to that. They cannot stop that how do we expect them to run this endeavor. They would only make to 15-35,000 more unemployed from the Health Industry. Both medically and from the Insurance Field. Whether obama is familiar with one small aspect and it is not a small aspect or if he wrote the whole thing. Believe me I would remember the high points not the as where as, and other lawyer jibberish. WHO DID PUT THIS THING TOGETHER THAT WILL NOT EVEN BECOME LAW UNTIL 2013??????

      Is there proof out there as to who and where this was put together: Perhaps in the middle east or south america?????? Most important whose name appears as author of this. Sure would like to find that out. AGAIN, EXACTLY WHERE AS A TAX PAYING CITIZEN WHO CAN PROVE MY BIRTHPLACE AND PROUD OF IT FIND THIS BILL TO ACTUALLY READ IT. I HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO SIT DOWN TOGETHER AND READ PAGE BY PAGE AND WORD FOR WORD. I do not want to be hand fed the government's take.

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    465. Cybercorrespondent C says:

      George Soros and the democrats have a goal to destroy the dollar and to push for a global currency. As a result, George Soros would make billions just as he did from his attempt to destroy the British Pound. To push for global dominance they have chosen a messenger who will not oblige to his constitutional obligation to prove that he is a US citizen and created legislations such as the Stimulus Bill, the Equal Pay Bill, the Global Poverty Bill, the Tobacco Bill, the Climate Change Bill, the upcoming Health Reform Bill, the UN sponsored Bill that will force Americans to pay a global tax and whatever else they have hidden in the bills no one has read. If George Soros and the democrats are allowed to succeed, it will bring America to a $2 trillion dollars plus deficit, make the dollar worthless and cause this country to self-distrust.

      Cybercorrespondent

    466. Slimereaper, New Mex says:

      There is NO-THING democratic about "socialized" medicine.

      The H.R.956 – HealthCARE Act of 2009 bill strips away the freedom of choice (pg 16& 17), desecrates the values that this country was built on, and demoralizes the elderly who have contributed to the system their whole life (pg 425) – only to have it regurgitate on them in the golden years. What an irony…democrats supporting socialist communistic medicine???

      …And as the crowd roars… "ENSLAVE US PLEASE…OH PLEASE!!!

      In the next breath before they can shout "OH PLEASE" again — the one world government incinerates them ALL.

      Such IGNORANT & STUPID sheep.

      This is morbid.

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    469. Bolton says:

      I think God for the hertigae foundation who are educating and informing americans about the deathcare plan of Obama care. The fact remains at the end of the day Obama is on record stating that he want to offer a univeral health care single payer system. This is exactly what they currently have now in Europe, Canada, and Cube.

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    471. ReadTheBillsBeforeYo says:

      Whether you are for a Health Care reform bill or not, I don't think there in any disagreement that no bill should be voted on before our Congressmen and Senators have read and understood the full thing.

      http://www.honorinoffice.org

      http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=hfhO38CPlAI

    472. GaryL, Winter Haven, says:

      Obama facilitates, promotes and commissions, while some tempt to call this leadership. He glibly abdicates, leaving the devilish-details up to lead-drummer Nancy and the Gulfstream Gang. He sings perfectly in an imperfect opera. He does not care about specific chords or their implications as long as it broadly meets homogeneous wealth-health distribution. The key is to push an incentive-destroying score rapidly, so no one can keep up to the off-beat. Unfortunately or perhaps fortunately, the optical-fiber organ that helped him win the election is same wireless device that can lead to his political demise. Congress numbers in the hundreds, we number in the millions. Unlike never-before, we do read and understand the notes much faster than they can. Our instant-access collective-knowledge trumps theirs, while our collective power stands hindered and frustrated. Iran is not the only place to Twitter away your time. Congress-partydriven-people-persons in quiet desperation label elderly a radical style melody and insist that driving left-of-center is not only safe, but essential to our future health. Now be appreciative that when you get to the end of the road everything will be Government defined. Backlash is now driven by millisecond downloadable text and not just “olde” blind opinion. Legislators disremember rapid internet transparency; while they stubbornly insist with a 1970s eye; the public does not fathom what electeds always know best. With certainty the CBO will be lashed with mace drumsticks for their inability to add and subtract in imaginary numbers. Regardless, Obama can stand up aloof, smile, and blindly lilt what he wishes without the inconvenience of knowing. Obama apparently has not read this important score and probably never will. His lack of the detail is profound to emailing crowds as he raps to a dwindling left-key gullible. The devil is not just in the details but also in a well-spoken and well-groomed, smooth-smiling Shill. Witness, Nancy's ideal frontman. Drum-on Nancy… Drum-on. Admittedly, they perform well together, each playing their two-bit part. The mob outside jeers in unison; they don’t like the tune that the Gulfstreams insist on playing to that ignominious symbol of the party faithful.

    473. Calbert, UK says:

      Admittedly, I do not have full knowledge of the proposed National Health Care system for the USA. The one here in the UK is called the National Health System (NHS). I can assure you that it is rift through with logistic and moral problems, both of which are interrelated. There are aspects of the system which has been put in place with good intent but is full of potential risk in relationship to good medical practice and peoples’ freedom and liberty. A typical example of this point is an original plan of the current labour (socialist) government to concentrate all health data on patients onto a centralized national database system. It did not work but wasted a lot of money! I can guess that the demonic power behind the real intent of this system have now chosen the US as the place to implement a system like this and then propagate it elsewhere on the globe.

    474. Person Voter says:

      I can tell you that we will have a Health Care reform this year. Like Rick Scott is a person you can not trust, his past association with hospital they fault against the government. People said we do not what socialize medical care, so I say to that you want to medicare from our senior citizen. For those idiot does not know that Medicare and Medicaid programs, they are Government run programs.

    475. judy holmgren says:

      I agree that we the public should also be able to read the 1000 page bill that Obama,Pelosi and Reed would like to pass without any consideration as to what nightmare they create for the people I have this problem of trying to figure out just what kind of government are we going to be dealing with, they are almost insisting that we the people allow the government to run our lives, they meddle enough without anymore new laws that they would like to corner us with, People should start paying more attention to what is going on,scary if we do not soon do something about these 3 people who is trying hard to push us into socializm.

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    478. NOVA says:

      OBAMA 2012 BABYYYY.

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    483. Levi, Texas says:

      Well, I have not seen him write on the palm to jug the brain. Do we need one that can not even remember 3 to 4 words to be our president? One that can even finish one term of Governorship of a small state and can see Russia from her door step?

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