Comments on: Could Global Warming Models Be Wrong?

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Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:42:40 +0000

[...] Could Global Warming Models Be Wrong? [...]

By: Dale, Oklahoma

Dale, Oklahoma — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:00:22 +0000

While I'm sure that man does contribute to

climate change to some very small degree,

I think it has a lot more to do with naturally re-occurring global weather cycles, the orbital proximity of the REAL

GLOW BALL warmer ( the sun ) and other

factors such as volcanic eruptions, massive forest fires, etc..

Can man be better stewards of this great

and mighty ( not frail ) planet? YES!

But we shouldn't be fooled by the Chicken

Littles and lemmings who worship the Earth

and lust for the almighty dollars they get from "global warming" research grants.

Al Gore has become wealthy ( and FAT ) enough by fooling the "useful idiots" of our fair planet. "Fear itself" is NOT a

good enough reason to scare our country

into another exorbitant "energy" tax.

By: dixie heart, USA

dixie heart, USA — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:24:24 +0000

Yes, it is a hoax designed to gain political leverage by instilling fear and willingness into the masses. It goes to show you how widespread gullibility is and how readily the impressionable youth (and many an adult) will swallow junk science widely taught in our school system and hyped up in the media.

Theorizing should not be the basis upon which to base public policy nor any legislation!

By: Marshall Hill MI.

Marshall Hill MI. — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:23:35 +0000

What happens to the weatherman when his Prediction

is Wrong? Nothing,he still gets paid!

By: Betty, Los Angeles C

Betty, Los Angeles C — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:57:32 +0000

I know nothing about all the science the rest of you toss around. However, I do know that climate change has been going on for millions of years and it's a joke to think we can control it by selling each other pieces of paper. What if all the crap & trade works & we do manage to stop global warming, then what will we do when we have another mini-ice age?

By: Andres Peres, New Or

Andres Peres, New Or — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:39:21 +0000

Many stand to make money out of the uncertain-certain climate change.

One of them, the Nobel Laurate Al Gore, former Tennessee Senator and noted iventor of the internet.

On cap and trade, and China and India not abiding by proposed scheme:

"….if the US leads, China will follow." AL Gore on Cap and Trade.

Add magician, psychic to Al's long list of accomplishements

By: Sundry Notes « 36 Chambers – The Legendary Journeys: Execution to the max!

Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:25:16 +0000

[...] Here’s a major shocker: global warming models could be wrong. I’ve noticed that “global warming” hasn’t come up much this year. This [...]

By: Spiritof76

Spiritof76 — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:39:07 +0000

I agree with Jim Few of Florida Panhandle.

People go gha-gha when somebody mentions computer models. Immediate reaction is that it must be accurate. Wrong.

We need physical basis via mathematical relationships to describe the phenomenon. The computer modeling simply transforms those mathematical relationship describing the system into a solution format. This model needs to be validated with data. For example, the climate models can not validate the Maunder Minimum related mini-ice age of 1650-1700.

Climate system is vastly complex with very little definable relationships. Jim talks about water vapor. The increase in temperature will incrase the water vapor as 75% of the earth is covered with water. Solubility of CO2 increases as temperature increases. The plants and algea growth accelerate as temperature increases in the presence of CO2. While those relationships are know qualitatively, we do not have any deterministic relationships for them.

The models used are purley projections based on the calculated effect of CO2 without any other variable and projecting it to 100 years. It is not science. It is like a kindergardener describing theory of calculus. It is so rudimentary that it is useless.

There is a big issue whether the CO2 or increased temperature led the spike. The data would suggest that warming occurred first followed by the CO2 level increase. Even the hypothesis that CO2 causes any warming is false.

By: Ross Writes, Brade

Ross Writes, Brade — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:17:09 +0000

In science, I'm an ignorant man. But what little commonsense that I was blessed with from birth, tells me that our sun, the earth under our feet, and their rythms and cycles may have a lot to do with our weather, not the "piddly" actions of the human race. At least someone in the science field is noticing that our universe/world does not follow models very well.

By: Ron Thompson

Ron Thompson — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:13:47 +0000

without a doubt the model is wrong! look at the local weather, see how the weather folks bend, fold and mutilate the trends to fit them into the model! these are the same people defending Al Gore! They can be 98% wrong and still considered successful. It's too bad they haven't figured out who is incharge of the earth, it isn't man for sure!