http://blog.heritage.org/2009/07/15/the-true-cost-of-the-house-health-plan-in-pictures/ Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:53:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 http://blog.heritage.org/2009/07/15/the-true-cost-of-the-house-health-plan-in-pictures/#comment-87376 Dissent Is Not Un-American - Reboot The Republic Sat, 06 Feb 2010 03:41:17 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=10811#comment-87376 [...] In reality, once all of the House bill’s spending takes effect, Obamacare will be spending $245 billion a year. And in the out years? CBO director Doug Elmendorf said this: “In sum, relative to current law, [...] [...] In reality, once all of the House bill’s spending takes effect, Obamacare will be spending $245 billion a year. And in the out years? CBO director Doug Elmendorf said this: “In sum, relative to current law, [...]

]]> http://blog.heritage.org/2009/07/15/the-true-cost-of-the-house-health-plan-in-pictures/#comment-87362 The Baucus Bait And Switch - Reboot The Republic Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:44:01 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=10811#comment-87362 [...] First, CBO found that the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions (HELP) bill would increase the deficit by $1 trillion. Three weeks later, the CBO released a report on a revised bill showing HELP 2.0 only raised the deficit by $597 billion. The House then got a little clever and tried to game the CBO scoring system by phasing in the major spending of their bill over time, but even that maneuver left them with $245 billion added to the deficit in the first ten years (with crippling deficits to come as the ent... [...] [...] First, CBO found that the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions (HELP) bill would increase the deficit by $1 trillion. Three weeks later, the CBO released a report on a revised bill showing HELP 2.0 only raised the deficit by $597 billion. The House then got a little clever and tried to game the CBO scoring system by phasing in the major spending of their bill over time, but even that maneuver left them with $245 billion added to the deficit in the first ten years (with crippling deficits to come as the ent… [...]

]]> http://blog.heritage.org/2009/07/15/the-true-cost-of-the-house-health-plan-in-pictures/#comment-59665 Musings on Health Care - melissatx’s Diary - RedState Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:52:40 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=10811#comment-59665 [...] how it will be paid for, but ultimately, WHO will be carrying the brunt of the cost, and what the true cost will [...] [...] how it will be paid for, but ultimately, WHO will be carrying the brunt of the cost, and what the true cost will [...]

]]> http://blog.heritage.org/2009/07/15/the-true-cost-of-the-house-health-plan-in-pictures/#comment-56109 Dave B, Denver CO Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:07:34 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=10811#comment-56109 One of the most confusing parts of all the arguments is the numbers being quoted: it is very difficult to come up with accurate costs, not to mention the benefits actually derived from the costs. Be that as i may, Four points: 1) Roughly calculating: A trillion dollars divided by 100 million (taxpayers) over ten years is about $1,000 per taxpayer per year. I pay more than that in one monthly insurance premium. If that bought basic healthcare for all Americans, it would be well worth the cost. Simply kicking tens of millions of the uninsured to the curb is unconscionable. 2) Many millions of elderly have benefited from "socialized" social security and medicare. Not perfect systems, but far better than any other proposed, and the vast majority of those beneficiaries rely on them, are grateful for them, and deserve those benefits. 3) Most opponents of health-care reform likely have never suffered a life-threatening health crisis. Over 30 years I have spent over $250,000 in health insurance premiums (I have the dreaded "pre-existing condition" and work for a small company). When I had to go to emergency with a bleeding vein in my brain, 2 days later I found myself back on the street with a dozen staples in my head after brain surgery, a long list of doctors, labs, and insurance claim numbers to call, and a couple of prescriptions (all compliments of my insurer). I don't call that health care, it feels more like predatory health management. 4) One final point: I suggest we refrain from demagoguery, extreme hyperbole, and shrill accusations, and start speaking with a modicum of compassion in informed debate. Eventually, everyone will find themselves in the hospital; we are all in the same boat. One of the most confusing parts of all the arguments is the numbers being quoted: it is very difficult to come up with accurate costs, not to mention the benefits actually derived from the costs. Be that as i may, Four points: 1) Roughly calculating: A trillion dollars divided by 100 million (taxpayers) over ten years is about $1,000 per taxpayer per year. I pay more than that in one monthly insurance premium. If that bought basic healthcare for all Americans, it would be well worth the cost. Simply kicking tens of millions of the uninsured to the curb is unconscionable. 2) Many millions of elderly have benefited from "socialized" social security and medicare. Not perfect systems, but far better than any other proposed, and the vast majority of those beneficiaries rely on them, are grateful for them, and deserve those benefits. 3) Most opponents of health-care reform likely have never suffered a life-threatening health crisis. Over 30 years I have spent over $250,000 in health insurance premiums (I have the dreaded "pre-existing condition" and work for a small company). When I had to go to emergency with a bleeding vein in my brain, 2 days later I found myself back on the street with a dozen staples in my head after brain surgery, a long list of doctors, labs, and insurance claim numbers to call, and a couple of prescriptions (all compliments of my insurer). I don't call that health care, it feels more like predatory health management. 4) One final point: I suggest we refrain from demagoguery, extreme hyperbole, and shrill accusations, and start speaking with a modicum of compassion in informed debate. Eventually, everyone will find themselves in the hospital; we are all in the same boat.

]]> http://blog.heritage.org/2009/07/15/the-true-cost-of-the-house-health-plan-in-pictures/#comment-52333 Obama’s budget numbers are five feet high and risin’ « Seeing Red AZ Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:13:50 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=10811#comment-52333 [...] is committed to push through his nationalized health care extravaganza, which is estimated to cost $1.3 trillion dollars over ten years. Most Americans will think the House plan will cost about $130 billion a year. The [...] [...] is committed to push through his nationalized health care extravaganza, which is estimated to cost $1.3 trillion dollars over ten years. Most Americans will think the House plan will cost about $130 billion a year. The [...]

]]> http://blog.heritage.org/2009/07/15/the-true-cost-of-the-house-health-plan-in-pictures/#comment-49822 With Social Security nearly broke, Obama wants to add trillions in health care takeover « Seeing Red AZ Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:26:56 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=10811#comment-49822 [...] nationalization of health care carries a hefty price tag estimated at  $1.3 trillion dollars over ten years, along with the additional troubling aspects of [...] [...] nationalization of health care carries a hefty price tag estimated at  $1.3 trillion dollars over ten years, along with the additional troubling aspects of [...]

]]> http://blog.heritage.org/2009/07/15/the-true-cost-of-the-house-health-plan-in-pictures/#comment-49673 Edward J Maio Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:53:11 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=10811#comment-49673 What I believe most Americans would like to know is the size of Federal government, broken down by Agencies, what is the average salary, health care benefits and retirement packages. If the American people really understood what they get, they would be appalled. Think, what would be saved in the Federal government, IRS was not needed, because of flat tax. Speaking of the IRS, can you imagine the number of people it would take if Healtcare was under the Federal government??? Look at Medicare, Medicade, Social Security, Cash for Clunkers, Amtrak, which are bankrupted and costing at least ten times the original projected cost, do we really want the Federal Govnt to run healthcare? What I believe most Americans would like to know is the size of Federal government, broken down by Agencies, what is the average salary, health care benefits and retirement packages. If the American people really understood what they get, they would be appalled. Think, what would be saved in the Federal government, IRS was not needed, because of flat tax. Speaking of the IRS, can you imagine the number of people it would take if Healtcare was under the Federal government??? Look at Medicare, Medicade, Social Security, Cash for Clunkers, Amtrak, which are bankrupted and costing at least ten times the original projected cost, do we really want the Federal Govnt to run healthcare?

]]> http://blog.heritage.org/2009/07/15/the-true-cost-of-the-house-health-plan-in-pictures/#comment-47554 Fix Health Care Policy | Dissent Is Not “Un-American” Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:39:02 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=10811#comment-47554 [...] In reality, once all of the House bill’s spending takes effect, Obamacare will be spending $245 billion a year. And in the out years? CBO director Doug Elmendorf said this: “In sum, relative to current law, [...] [...] In reality, once all of the House bill’s spending takes effect, Obamacare will be spending $245 billion a year. And in the out years? CBO director Doug Elmendorf said this: “In sum, relative to current law, [...]

]]> http://blog.heritage.org/2009/07/15/the-true-cost-of-the-house-health-plan-in-pictures/#comment-47543 Liberally Conservative » Blog Archive » Since When Is Free Speech Un-American? Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:15:37 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=10811#comment-47543 [...] In reality, once all of the House bill’s spending takes effect, Obamacare will be spending $245 billion a year. And in the out years? CBO director Doug Elmendorf said this: “In sum, relative to current law, [...] [...] In reality, once all of the House bill’s spending takes effect, Obamacare will be spending $245 billion a year. And in the out years? CBO director Doug Elmendorf said this: “In sum, relative to current law, [...]

]]> http://blog.heritage.org/2009/07/15/the-true-cost-of-the-house-health-plan-in-pictures/#comment-45839 Healthcare Headlines « NWI Patriots Blog Sun, 02 Aug 2009 00:46:03 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=10811#comment-45839 [...] The True Cost of the House Health Plan in Pictures [...] [...] The True Cost of the House Health Plan in Pictures [...]

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