do not believe the lie of 12 million illegals in America.. I have seen studies that suggest up to 38 million.. once given amnesty and healthcare Obama will become dictator for life.. say hello to 3rd world America..

The amnesty/earned legalization provisions need more work. As is endlessly stated, it is not a worthwhile use of tax bucks to kick out 12m people; however, the report's method of earned legalization may be too lenient. There should be some, preferably commensurately arduous, route for hard-working illegals to eventually gain legal status, and several years down the line citizenship; however, the system advocated in the report, although somewhat arduous, is not sufficiently limited, and would probably have the same result as a full amnesty through the ability for citizens to apply for family-based immigration.

My solution: adopt the legal immigration parts of the report, come up with a tougher earned-legalization provision.

For example – large fine ($10k region?) or punitive high taxes for 5 years, conditional on working for 10 years, must have no criminal convictions (aside from traffic, jaywalking, etc.), no welfare payments, NO RIGHT TO BRING IN RELATIVES for those previously illegal. Maybe exception from fine for kids brought in by parents; no other exceptions, and tougher enforcement (whether direct by raids or indirect by applying financial incentives to employers) so that those left (criminals and those who are unwilling to work) are forced to return home or starve.

(incidentally, to the guy above who has linked illegals to high taxes – I think a fine/higher taxes for illegals attempting to legalize would help cover this cost. encouraging hospitals to become non-profit/charities might help too, since i'd wager that they overcharge the taxpayer for that stuff)

Those who want to just follow the same old road, can do so with the profit taking commercial insurance. Those who would be satisfied with a government run health care program, can now start demanding it from the lawmakers. Those who see a Universal health care system, similar to most developed countries in Europe, should start informing every Representative and Senate politician starting today. Rationing in places like England, was caused by the major impact of uncontrolled immigration. I see–THE RATS–are coming out of the woodwork, using propaganda and downright lies about government run medical care? The Special interest lobby, status quo have very wealthy fingers in the pie and do not want Health care for everybody? It's a trillion dollar business like Cancer treatments.

The pharmaceutical companies, AMA and others have very much to lose? Even many corrupt politicians are stockholders in this behemoth money machine. Most American working class can do–without– high premiums, pre-existing condition clauses. deductibles, co-pays that is representative of the wealthy medical care insurers.

Unless our politicians commit themselves to a strong E-Verify, Police enforcement 287(g) and enforce all federal employees are vetted, so illegal immigrant workers can be rooted-out. The push for AMNESTY, will even draw another invasion in to our nation once the word goes out.

This free health care atrocity was placed on the unknowing American, years past and never been rescinded. This has favored the business community, because they pay–ABSOLUTELY NOTHING– to a maimed or sick illegal worker, because it's passed on to the consumer. IF YOU DESIRE A NEW HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, WHERE YOU CAN CHOOSE YOUR INSURER? WHETHER YOU WANT THE FOR PROFIT INSURANCE OR GOVERNMENT MEDICAL CARE SYSTEM? TODAY IS CRITICAL. SO CALL YOUR SENATOR OR CONGRESSMAN 202-224-312. Just like illegal immigration , we cannot afford anymore to subsidize the business that hire them or the millions of illegal families. GOOGLE–on the web to find the truth. Read this: http://www.redcounty.com/what-if-20-million-unlaw…

Sorry, you are both citizens of other countries already. If it was only you two maybe it wouldn't matter, but there are at least 20 million more here, spitting on our laws.

Add to that, the illusion that we were so rich is gone now. We're pretty poor today. Our Law based culture is all we really have for our future, we can't give that away too.

There are millions, BILLIONS of people who would love to cash in against our country, but we must become very serious now about protecting ourselves, or we will lose what we have.

Of course you understand, that's human nature.

No, no amnesty for either of you, nor for millions of others who saw a great chance to score some gain for themselves in our house.

What others in the world would love to have, or however well you two have learned about us since you've been here, pales in comparison to the rich power of the Rule of Law.

I would never trade that away for anything.

You two will have to go back to your own countries, along with the other criminals.

However, if you apply legally and one day return again, I will welcome you here as a new fellow citizen.

But never as a cheat.

If amnesty becomes pro-bono from the current administration it will crack-open the dirty secrets of how so many citiesare receiving Federal funding in the Trillions form the Federal Gov't.based on programs ,in support for illegal immigrationon on all levels.

CA with it's Pelosi machine, iron clad Chamber of Commerce lobby, has turned itself into the welfare capital of America. Go figure.

What I can not comprehend is; how the tax paying citizens of CA can continue to allow this to happen.

Also, why do the elected leadership there continue to get re-elected when the decision making process is not for the benefit of the State that they represent.

I.O. U. for CA?

Ca has not had a balance budget in decades. Certainly it will continue on the same path of "let them come and we will support them." accept for, recent articles in the L.A. Times that has clearly reported the fiscal abuses on many levels as a result of this mind set.

Second Point;

On a local level ,when the L.A. hospital responsible for the delivery of eight home ground baby's lined up, infront of National media, and proudly announced their story an L.A. County asorbed the cost in the millions, with a team of Prof. in the hundreds, I realized that certainly there is no hope for poor broke CA.

So when I think of a National Ins program put forth, I certainly think of the un-insured in the millions like octo-mom and know that not CA, but all of us will be footing the bills in the millions, for the the millions who will certainly come-out of the shadows for the fleecing of America.

I have already been fleeced out of a lg % of my 401, and that's as far as I'm taking this train ride to fiscal craziness.

It is all connected and cuts so deep that we should be screaming STOP, I repeat STOP this maddness.

No amnesty, no National Health care program at this time, and Ca shut down your borders.Cut your entitlement programs for all illegals and give the Fed. Housing support to the middle class that are now homeless who have paid into the system and supported the infrastructure thus far. It is a place to start one sector at a time.

I think obama and his thugs better learn that the American people don't want AMNESTY! We went through this before. Why are we going through it again?

ENFORCE THE LAW! NO AMNESTY! I repeat, ENFORCE THE LAW! NO AMNESTY! Do I have to say it again? OK. ENFORCE THE LAW! NO AMNESTY!