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  • Could 2010 Census Include Make-Believe People?

    Left-leaning groups want to include millions of pretend people in the real-life 2010 Census. It almost happened in 2000. This time, they might get their way.  The administration claims it has “no plans” to use statistical sampling to augment the actual headcount next year by adding millions of fictitious people.

    Statistical sampling creates profiles of make-believe people, assigning them an address, a gender, race, age, income, and other characteristics. And it counts them, just as though they were counted by a census worker. The Left argues that minorities and illegal immigrants are usually undercounted. They seek statistical “adjustments” to add made-up people, using assumptions and formulas that can be both factually wrong and politically manipulated.

    Obama’s choice as new Census Director is University of Michigan Professor Robert Groves, who the Senate may confirm with a vote as early as this evening. Groves is a champion of statistical sampling. As reported by the Associated Press, “When he was the bureau’s associate director, Groves recommended that the 1990 census be statistically adjusted to make up for an undercount of roughly 5 million people, many of them minorities in dense urban areas who tend to vote for Democrats.”

    Conservatives worry that, having learned from the failure of Bill Clinton’s high-profile push for census sampling, the administration has adopted a stealth approach by claiming not to support sampling while hiring a Census Bureau Director who does.

    With its impact on dozens of Congressional seats, the Electoral College, and the allocation of billions in taxpayer dollars, the possibility of sampling demands attention. The potential for political tampering and manipulation is too huge to ignore, whether those in power have pure intentions or Machiavellian intent.

    As Joseph Stalin said, “Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.” And so could those who count the voters.

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    36 Responses to Could 2010 Census Include Make-Believe People?

    1. Dr Data, Ann Arbor M says:

      Not sure of the point of this article. The Supreme Court ruled in June, 1999 that the census has to be an actual count and cannot use sampling. The Census Bureau operated like that in 2000 although they spent a great deal of time determining differential the rate of differential undercount in the 2000 census. This was not so they could "adjust" but so they could continue to improve their data collection effort.

      The Census Bureau is interested in getting a complete count in 2010. And, just like in the past, they will analyze the count after the fact with an eye on improving the process for 2020.

      Be careful what you wish for. A population that is harder to count is folks who live in gated communities, which are not friendly to temporary census workers trying to get a complete count.

    2. Raymond Carr - Marti says:

      We need to kill the CAP & Trade Bill in the Senate. If this goes through it will kill our economy.

    3. Barb -mn says:

      Gosh. Make believe? As we are dealing with the childish mentality of grown adults, leading people with lies, deceit and fear mongering, it's not surprising. It's so they are in postion to fabricate make-believe crisis'!

      They had mickey mouse and those who are deceased voters in this state where the government logo read "let every vote count." Sure enough, every vote counted. Democrats would never win without cheating.

    4. Barb -mn says:

      Gosh. Make believe? As we are dealing with the childish mentality of grown adults, leading people with lies, deceit and fear mongering, it's not surprising. It's so they are in position to fabricate make-believe future crisis'!

      They had mickey mouse and those who are deceased voters in this state, where the government logo read "let every vote count." Sure enough, every vote counted. Democrats would never win without cheating.

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    6. Harvey Becker, Bend, says:

      Review of curret inf on the census process indicate several problems that Congress must resolve to insure this basic foundation for our freedoms.

      Americans do not appear to understand that the census process is a critical part of out election process.

      The forms must be serialized to reduce fraud. They must be tracked when printed, thru distribution to areas (signed for) and verified when processed and disposed of, inculding the non completed forms. Without serializing and controlling the process where power and money is involved, fraud will occur. In addition, No one to my knowledge has reviewed and/audited the automated process to assure fraud can not occur therer.

      Americans, such as myself, will only send a form with personal inf by registered mail. There is no inf as to whether the processing center will have the ability to receive and process forms sent by registered mail.

      With Acorn under federal indictment for fraud in the election process, Americans freedom and liberty are at risk in participating in the 2010 census process.

      The Executive branch supports and has funded these organizations, the legislative branch has failed to cut off billions in funds, where can Americans go to protect themselves from personal fraud and the potential fraud to our 2010 census and election process? The Supreme Court?

      Americans, like other people, only miss their most cherished possessions after they loose them. We see this clearly in the pictures of the Iraq people when they raise their "Purple Thumbs" in joy for free and honest elections and the riots in the city streets of Iran when their election process failed to provide honest elections.

      The GAO Testimony before the committee on Homeland Security and Gov't Affairs regarding significant problems of critical automation program contributor to Risks facing 2010 censes ( GAO-08-550T) never discussed how the gov't has or will secure the automated aspects of out census process. Again another aspect of the election process that is being ignored by Congress who should be protection American rights .

      Many articles have been documented as to the fraud associated with our computer systems used in previous elections. When the gov't fails to put BASIC checks and balances on the election process we find Ballots in cars (WI) and Boxes of ballots found in warehouses (WA). Simple serialization with tracking from printing to disposal will not eliminate but reduce fraud and add greater confident to americans that someone is trying to protect our right to honest elections.

      I have seen better checks and balances at concessions run by Boy Scouts at football games, when they count the money, rolls and cups before and after the game, then I have observed in our national election process.

      Will Heritage aggressively address this serious attack on all of our freedoms and liberty or will we just sit back and let Congress and the Administration authorize bottles of purple ink be stored along with the IOU's for Social Security, medicare, and National health Care. and let the media report the protests in the streets as just Right Wing Nuts?

      Thank you for finally addressing this most serious problem

    7. Tom, Pennsylvania says:

      Where are the facts the liberals keep insisting on when it comes to undercounting minorities and illegals? First of all, illegals have no business being here in the first place. If they are not fully counted, who cares? How do the liberals really know minorities are under-counted. They throw out bizarre statements that the liberal media does not challenge, and then it is accepted as fact. They want to use the numbers to support the redrawing of districts to wipe out more conservative districts. Our Founding Fathers never intended this nonsense to go on, but then again, they failed to realize that Congress would turn into a special class of citizens owning up to no one but themselves. I submit the time has come for the people to demand a Constitutional Amendment limiting the terms of those in Congress. The only way this will happen is if the states decide to do it. Congress will never do anything to limit its power.

    8. Jim, Ft Wayne, India says:

      If we truly want change, we will hold our Senators and Representatives accountable for how they support such harmful polices and legislation put forth by the Obama administration. With the Dems in control of everything, they don't need Republicans. They control it all and they own the results. We need to vote in more conservatives and balance the power in Washington. We are on a fast track to our country's demise if we don't act in this next election. Watch how all of your elected officials in Washington vote and then proceed to "fire" those that do not put our country and the citizens first. Don't listen to what they say. Watch what they do. Just like with Obama, actions speak louder than words – no tele-prompter needed.

    9. Pat-San Antonio says:

      If Acorn participates in taking the ACORN,

      If Acorn participates in taking the census, never fear, we will have many, many more minority citizens than we ever thought we had. Amazing how they justs spring up from nowhere!I never knew that Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Elvis Pressely, etc. lived in every state.

    10. Martin/Georgia says:

      The census will become the joke our elections have turn into. Now they speak of trying past WH administrations. What happened to court challenges to these power grabs?

    11. Richard - TX says:

      Ok and this article failed to mention ACORN being hired by the president to do the counting. You just have to look at the current trouble these people are in for false registration of voters in the last election, they claim no voter fraud, just registration fraud. If not to commit voter fraud why commit registration fraud. If they count the census they will pull their known crap and count whatever they want.

    12. Susan, Nevada says:

      Obama is trying to destroy capitalism, democracy, our individual freedom, and our country's security. He cannot work fast enough to change our future as Americans. Is he really so ignorant of our history as a nation or does he just lack respect for it. It is possible that President Obama sat through the Sunday sermons long enough to take Rev. Wright's words to heart, "God damn America!" I believe that Obama is gloating over our country's implosion.

      We must take our country back! We can start with term limits at the state level to prevent all this damage caused by self serving politicians.

    13. FireInsideTheMan, Mi says:

      The census should not be counted based on "statistical sampling" but rather a real count of who is really in this country, legal or illegal. Why is one major question missing: What is your citizenship status? among the over 28 pages of meaningless data mining the government has absolutely no right to know about us?

      Yet another political failure to add to the ongoing list of Administration broken promises…

      http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

    14. David E Aldridge, Da says:

      The minute ACORN was brought under investigation for voter fraud, any connection that organization had with cencus, voter counts,etc, should have been terminated. This is the ONE area that any hint of corruption cannot be tolerated. Mine and your vote is sacred, it is the very foundation of our democracy. Without a completely honest electorial process, we don't have anything. The census is the first part of that process and I for one don't want ACORN any where near it!!!! Chicago politics at it's very worst!!!

    15. Lynn B. DeSpain says:

      Wow! Let's add it up. Obama + Acorn = Census? Make believe? Yes. Distorted? Certainly. Designed for purposefull Egomaniac, Governmental, Leadership, Musolini, Hitler, Stalin type uses? You are betting your very lives and futures on it!

      Hozro

    16. John Roane Sarasota says:

      Don't you know from the little acorn does the mighty Oak grow! Citizens always get the government the deserve.

    17. Brad J., Roseburg OR says:

      I have to agree with Harvey Becker, Bend. Please also note that the Girl Scouts would also probably do a better job!

    18. Grace, Florida says:

      Yep, a real possibility. Didn't the 2008 Demoncrat campaign register animals?

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    20. Elaine North Caroli says:

      The Congresswoman from MN said it best when she advised – she and her husband would only fill out on the censue that which in the past has been required – name – sex – number in household -address, no more, as this census form is the most intrusive every seen, and illegal as to its invasive nature into our lives.

      Lets all follow her lead.

    21. Christine, Oklahoma says:

      Census…….If someone comes knocking on my door, I'm planning on filling it out myself. How stupid do they think we are? That's where part of the problem lies. This is something I've ALWAYS filled out myself…So how much $$$ are we paying ACORN "workers" to come to our doors and fill in the little circles?

      They can stand out in the weather & wait for what I choose to let the government know about.

      ****Also, aren't they mostly interested in how many people are in my state for the electoral numbers so they can "estimate"?

      MAYBE I'LL "ESTIMATE" HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN MY HOME AT THE TIME.

      FOR MY STATE, MAYBE THE MORE THE MERRIER. ISN'T THAT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH INCLUDING ILLEGAL ALIENS? AND ROUND THE NUMBERS S-K-Y H-I-G-H!!!!!!!!

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    26. Patty, Pearl River, says:

      It is time that we realize that when goverment wants complete control over health care system, automobile industry and the census our individual best interest is not at hand. It is time for us to call our representatives and let them know we do not want our voices taken away from us.

    27. Ken, Bastrop, Tx says:

      Here's the catch. We are given all this information and advice which is good. However, if those who can make the decisions (in Washington) won't listen, then where are we. We could read a ton of books and listen to hours of Glenn, Rush, shean, Mark as well as others, yet the big "O", Nancy and Harry as well as those who support the Progressive mindset need to be voted out before a change can happen. The Republicans need to wake up, those who are hurting our country need to be voted out also. What needs to happen is to bring the real America back to the Foundering Fathers philosophy. For anyone that is listening needs to take to heart what took place during the American Revolution. We need to let our elected officals know how we feel, then in 2010 those that won't change need to be voted out. If we are going to make any progress.

    28. Maria Cromer-Galiett says:

      Do as my father did and as his ather did stand at the door tell them how many lived here, what age, sex and race then close the door. In 2000, my father was ill and he did exactly what he always did, but because his day time care givers answered the door they keep coming back not believing him and wanting more information. He told them each time one, male, 71, caucasan. They cencus does not need any other information to count Americans.

    29. laura st aug fla says:

      barb -mn lets introduce some "facts" to the discussion of Micky mouse and deceased voting. I assume Barb is talking about Acorn.

      Fact anyone (Acorn, you me, anyone) who solicits voter registration forms MUST, IS REQUIRED UNDER PENALTY OF LAW, to submit that registration form to the Supervisor of Elections. If you, I or Acorn do not, we are breaking the law. It is NOT UP TO YOU, ME OR ACORN TO DECIDE which forms are submitted and which are not.

      The supervisor of elections is the final arbitrator of which citizens are placed on voter rolls and allowed to vote. Think application for a credit card. Filling out the application does NOT allow you to charge purchases. The application has to be approved and processed. Its the same with voter "registration" it has to be approved & processed by the Supervisor of Elections – who you vote into office.

      SO, ACORN CANNOT FALSIFY THE VOTER ROLLS, THEY CANNOT GIVE SOMEONE THE ABILITY TO VOTE.

      Any employee of an organization who is paid to get signatures on registrations and makes them up is ripping off the company who pays them. They not the company are the criminals!

      BARB I hope you read this. More important, Please check out the facts of your arguments in the future. It is simple. Type a few words into Google. PS Ignorance is no longer an excuse in this day and age. Laura

    30. Bill W says:

      Blah Blah Blah don't you get it, we know how this is going to end. Grab your pitchforks kids we're going to Washington. Sometimes starting over from scratch is the only way to save the cake, but we have to hurry before the eggs go bad. We must contain these leftists before they spread like cancer. Run a fence from the great lakes to the atlantic and keep all the leftists in new england, if the north east can turn into a utopia without stealing money from real americans then they won't need us barbarians.

    31. SueD, Arizona says:

      This 2010 census needs some very critical review long before the (ACORN) paid census takers begin.

      If the use of GPS tracking is true and the questionnaire so inclusive it infringes on American's civil liberties and rights to privacy, we the people should answer exactly as Maria's father did. God Bless him! Stand up Americans for your rights as citizens and refuse to let illegals skew the census and become citizens. A push for this 2010 census and the overwhelming amount of votes that will be dedicated to this liberal, biased, misguided House and Senate, by redistricting in numerous states. is blatant. This is CHANGE a majority of Americans don't want or need. Let's stand up and fight back, FINALLY.

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    34. Dave,MN says:

      If you fill out the census form mailed to you and then mail it back, no one will come to your door. The Census Bureau sends out people to follow up on those households who DO NOT return their forms through the mail.

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    36. A. Cole says:

      Yes, the census is a perfect job for ACORN. Can't you see them now? Opening all those filled in census forms and photocopying all our names, addresses, phone number, and – most important – our dates of birth!? I've been fighting with my husband for two weeks over this damn unconstitutional piece of crap! Unfortunately, he got to it first without me knowing, filled it in, and mailed it! Needless to say, I was furious! First thing tomorrow morning, I'm calling that company Rush is always talking about – Life Lock, I think – and I'm going to invest in identity protection for the next ten years.

      I can't believe this! I take such pains to protect any personal information from everyone in my house ever getting into the wrong hands – and he just fills it in and mails it back like a good drone!

      I'VE TOLD ALL MY DOCTORS I WANT THE ORIGINAL MEDICAL FILES FROM THEM FOR ALL MY FAMILY MEMBERS – INCLUDING MY ELDERLY MOM – IF THIS SOCIALIZED DEATH CARE GOES THROUGH. I'LL BE DAMNED IF I'M GOING TO GIVE ANY OF THESE TRAITORS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEIR HANDS ON THIS PRIVILEGED INFORMATION!

      WHEN I SIGNED THE PATIENT PRIVACY RIGHTS FORM IN MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE, I DON'T RECALL READING ANYTHING ON THERE THAT SAYS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS THE RIGHT TO ACCESS MY RECORDS AND DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF MEDICAL PROCEDURES I CAN OR CAN'T HAVE!

      COME ON PEOPLE – GET OFF YOUR ASSES AND GET DOWN TO D.C. THIS SATURDAY (WHICH IS WHEN PELOSI IS THREATENING TO HAVE THE SLAUGHTER VOTE TO RAM THROUGH THE SOCIALIZED DEATH CARE) AND LET'S STAGE A PROTEST IN THE HOUSE AND PREVENT THE VOTE!

      I'VE ALREADY ASKED CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN TO CHARGE EVERYONE WHO VOTES FOR THIS BILL WITH HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS, AND START IMPEACHMENT OF THOSE PEOPLE PLUS OBAMA HIMSELF!

      LET'S TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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