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	<title>Comments on: CBO&#8217;s Latest Cap and Trade Analysis</title>
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		<title>By: Cherokee, Texas</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/29/cbos-latest-cap-and-trade-analysis/#comment-57620</link>
		<dc:creator>Cherokee, Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What amazes me is that no one is talking about who it is that stands to make money off of this bill. We all know it will cost us dearly, not only out of pocket, but in jobs and a major hit to the economy. Consider this, if it becomes law, every power entity will pay fines for not meeting the standards established by this bill. And if they want to stay in business, they must purchase carbon offsets. 
 
But they can&#039;t just go out and buy them, they can&#039;t deal with a foreign government directly. They must use an authorized broker to buy the offsets from, let&#039;s say Mumbai, who has no real industry and also no human rights. But they do have a &quot;carbon offset surplus&quot;. The broker then gets his cut from both the purchasing entity AND the nation from which they arrange the offset. 
 
And who is an authorized broker? The largest is Generation Investment Management, a London-based company with offices in Washington, D.C. This particular company was founded by none other than Al Gore and a partner back in 2003, at a cost to each of $250,000 each. They each stand to make over $250 billion by selling and trading carbon offsets. Sure makes it look like Gore has a vested interest in the hoax known now as &quot;climate change&quot;. No wonder he&#039;s pushing it so hard. And it&#039;s also no wonder that Congress is pushing his agenda. I wonder how much their payoff will be? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What amazes me is that no one is talking about who it is that stands to make money off of this bill. We all know it will cost us dearly, not only out of pocket, but in jobs and a major hit to the economy. Consider this, if it becomes law, every power entity will pay fines for not meeting the standards established by this bill. And if they want to stay in business, they must purchase carbon offsets.</p>
<p>But they can&#039;t just go out and buy them, they can&#039;t deal with a foreign government directly. They must use an authorized broker to buy the offsets from, let&#039;s say Mumbai, who has no real industry and also no human rights. But they do have a &quot;carbon offset surplus&quot;. The broker then gets his cut from both the purchasing entity AND the nation from which they arrange the offset.</p>
<p>And who is an authorized broker? The largest is Generation Investment Management, a London-based company with offices in Washington, D.C. This particular company was founded by none other than Al Gore and a partner back in 2003, at a cost to each of $250,000 each. They each stand to make over $250 billion by selling and trading carbon offsets. Sure makes it look like Gore has a vested interest in the hoax known now as &quot;climate change&quot;. No wonder he&#039;s pushing it so hard. And it&#039;s also no wonder that Congress is pushing his agenda. I wonder how much their payoff will be?</p>
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		<title>By: John Perkins Washi</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/29/cbos-latest-cap-and-trade-analysis/#comment-51867</link>
		<dc:creator>John Perkins Washi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a commited effort by George Soros, Apollo Alliance, ACORN and SEIU to work together to bring down the US economy, I&#039;m thinking to create an even bigger crisis, so Obama and the govt can gain even greater control, and this is one step toward that. They have so many groups marching in lockstep, it will make for a downhill slide in our economy. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a commited effort by George Soros, Apollo Alliance, ACORN and SEIU to work together to bring down the US economy, I&#039;m thinking to create an even bigger crisis, so Obama and the govt can gain even greater control, and this is one step toward that. They have so many groups marching in lockstep, it will make for a downhill slide in our economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve, Cincinnati, O</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/29/cbos-latest-cap-and-trade-analysis/#comment-40836</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve, Cincinnati, O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I am no expert on cap-and-trade and its supposed de/merits, I always find the commenters on the Heritage&#039;s site do much to discredit the organization.  But what do I know?  Maybe the majority of people on this site are right and Obama and the Democrats are really trying to pass Cap-and-Trade as a way to plummet our country into Third World Poverty in an effort to be able to claim complete dominion over a completely worthless skin of what used to be the great United States of America.  I guess if that&#039;s true we deserved it for electing not only this one President but a collection of his &quot;minions&quot; over the past 4 to 5 years right in plain sight.  Seriously, some on this sight never seemed to learn the principle of disagreeing without being disagreeable. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I am no expert on cap-and-trade and its supposed de/merits, I always find the commenters on the Heritage&#039;s site do much to discredit the organization.  But what do I know?  Maybe the majority of people on this site are right and Obama and the Democrats are really trying to pass Cap-and-Trade as a way to plummet our country into Third World Poverty in an effort to be able to claim complete dominion over a completely worthless skin of what used to be the great United States of America.  I guess if that&#039;s true we deserved it for electing not only this one President but a collection of his &quot;minions&quot; over the past 4 to 5 years right in plain sight.  Seriously, some on this sight never seemed to learn the principle of disagreeing without being disagreeable.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry- in the REPUBL</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/29/cbos-latest-cap-and-trade-analysis/#comment-39940</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry- in the REPUBL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AS usual, one lawyer with a brief case can steal MORE money than any brigade of men with guns and tanks!!! Multiply that ONE lawyer by ALL who occupy a liberal seat in the House and Senate and you have the Congressional theives that rule on the HILL today!! How much more can they STEAL before the jig is up? Only them and their ablilities to pull the NEXT crisis out of their breif cases can answer that question!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AS usual, one lawyer with a brief case can steal MORE money than any brigade of men with guns and tanks!!! Multiply that ONE lawyer by ALL who occupy a liberal seat in the House and Senate and you have the Congressional theives that rule on the HILL today!! How much more can they STEAL before the jig is up? Only them and their ablilities to pull the NEXT crisis out of their breif cases can answer that question!!</p>
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		<title>By: CBO, Entitlments, Health Care Reform and the Deficit &#124; QandO</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/29/cbos-latest-cap-and-trade-analysis/#comment-39786</link>
		<dc:creator>CBO, Entitlments, Health Care Reform and the Deficit &#124; QandO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the important point to be made &#8211; these projections do not include cap-and-trade or health care [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John Burdick, Glendo</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/29/cbos-latest-cap-and-trade-analysis/#comment-39722</link>
		<dc:creator>John Burdick, Glendo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now we find out that an EPA scientist&#039;s findings that so-called global warming is not happening and is unrelated to Carbon Dioxide has been supressed by the EPA.  This now appears to be a criminal conspiracy. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now we find out that an EPA scientist&#039;s findings that so-called global warming is not happening and is unrelated to Carbon Dioxide has been supressed by the EPA.  This now appears to be a criminal conspiracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wilson Arizo</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/29/cbos-latest-cap-and-trade-analysis/#comment-39676</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wilson Arizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is heartening to see so many others who feel as I do -- that Congress and in particular the President seem to have no understanding or experience in working for a living where they take risks, win some, lose some and still always try to be able to come out with a balance between income and expenses. Congress and the President have made a big deal about some of the executives in major companies who got huge bonuses when they left their jobs. Why don&#039;t we do the same thing with our Congress and President. Pay a minimum salary and a good sized bonus if they run the government, meet the voters wishes on programs, and end up each year with a breakeven budget. Of course we will also need to have competent, non-partisan CPA&#039;s using General Accepted Accounting Practices in their accounting to check and report on them.. No &quot;off-budget&quot; items. True Capital Expenditures must be paid off on a stated basis and amortized accordingly.Bonuses would be available 6 months after the close of the fiscal year. 2 failures over 3 years would cost them their job and they could not be rehired by the Gov&#039;t for any job. Probably this would be complicated for most of those in Gov&#039;t particularly the President. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is heartening to see so many others who feel as I do &#8212; that Congress and in particular the President seem to have no understanding or experience in working for a living where they take risks, win some, lose some and still always try to be able to come out with a balance between income and expenses. Congress and the President have made a big deal about some of the executives in major companies who got huge bonuses when they left their jobs. Why don&#039;t we do the same thing with our Congress and President. Pay a minimum salary and a good sized bonus if they run the government, meet the voters wishes on programs, and end up each year with a breakeven budget. Of course we will also need to have competent, non-partisan CPA&#039;s using General Accepted Accounting Practices in their accounting to check and report on them.. No &quot;off-budget&quot; items. True Capital Expenditures must be paid off on a stated basis and amortized accordingly.Bonuses would be available 6 months after the close of the fiscal year. 2 failures over 3 years would cost them their job and they could not be rehired by the Gov&#039;t for any job. Probably this would be complicated for most of those in Gov&#039;t particularly the President.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard, Spring TX</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/29/cbos-latest-cap-and-trade-analysis/#comment-39664</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard, Spring TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we are told that a bill is on &#039;fast track&quot; it should be a red flag to all of us.  Fast track means that if the public had enough time to read and study a bill it probably would not get passed. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we are told that a bill is on &#039;fast track&quot; it should be a red flag to all of us.  Fast track means that if the public had enough time to read and study a bill it probably would not get passed.</p>
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		<title>By: Billv. Michigan</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/29/cbos-latest-cap-and-trade-analysis/#comment-39639</link>
		<dc:creator>Billv. Michigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All, 
This American society all boils down to hard working men and women in every sized business. With the economy so dysfunctional at the moment we hard workers are strapped for any spare time so we entrust those we have placed into government office to manage the store while we are off busy doing our part which makes this country great. Freedoms have a high price, and thank the soldiers and veterans for their extremely generous gift. However Freedom is about the individual making choices by doing your job, going to school, creating a business, discovering innovation and spending those extra hours not having fun, but doing the important things necessary to keep it all going. Choice is training oneself in any method possible to improve your skills, tools and value not only for yourself, but for all those you touch around you.  
 
	The environment is important in that like many other topics our mismanagement is passed to future generations to resolve. The whole &#8220;H.R. 2454 American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009&#8221; is a welfare program for the government organizations. The core problem is that any burning fuel causes the production of carbon dioxide. The Earth has a natural method to deal with carbon dioxide called photosynthesis, but we allow forests to be replaced by parking lots. If the EPA, DOE and DOT which have existed for decades have not been able to develop equally price energies options then another influx in revenue has no guarantees that solutions will be discovered. 
 
The government could be driving those changes, but the problem is those discoveries are not measurable in political based timetables. You couldn&#8217;t pick the time frame for Edison to discover tungsten worked in the light bulb. So perhaps regulating Edison material options could have reduced his time to market? 
 
However placing a tax burden on the backs of the business and the people is simply not the correct approach.  Because the taxation control is removed multiple times from the actual consumer, exactly how does a business or household manage their own consumption? This is a pass the buck strategy which will force businesses even to greater a degree to utilize off shore manufacturing resources and reducing the number of job in America into regions with zero power production regulations. Some Power companies will maintain near existing pricing while others will absorb huge pricing increase destroy regional businesses.  Taxation without direct user control is taxation WITHOUT representation in my eyes. 
 
Thanks for you efforts. I am trying to do mine and the legislative branch will soon realize we are here and watching. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>This American society all boils down to hard working men and women in every sized business. With the economy so dysfunctional at the moment we hard workers are strapped for any spare time so we entrust those we have placed into government office to manage the store while we are off busy doing our part which makes this country great. Freedoms have a high price, and thank the soldiers and veterans for their extremely generous gift. However Freedom is about the individual making choices by doing your job, going to school, creating a business, discovering innovation and spending those extra hours not having fun, but doing the important things necessary to keep it all going. Choice is training oneself in any method possible to improve your skills, tools and value not only for yourself, but for all those you touch around you. </p>
<p>	The environment is important in that like many other topics our mismanagement is passed to future generations to resolve. The whole &ldquo;H.R. 2454 American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009&rdquo; is a welfare program for the government organizations. The core problem is that any burning fuel causes the production of carbon dioxide. The Earth has a natural method to deal with carbon dioxide called photosynthesis, but we allow forests to be replaced by parking lots. If the EPA, DOE and DOT which have existed for decades have not been able to develop equally price energies options then another influx in revenue has no guarantees that solutions will be discovered.</p>
<p>The government could be driving those changes, but the problem is those discoveries are not measurable in political based timetables. You couldn&rsquo;t pick the time frame for Edison to discover tungsten worked in the light bulb. So perhaps regulating Edison material options could have reduced his time to market?</p>
<p>However placing a tax burden on the backs of the business and the people is simply not the correct approach.  Because the taxation control is removed multiple times from the actual consumer, exactly how does a business or household manage their own consumption? This is a pass the buck strategy which will force businesses even to greater a degree to utilize off shore manufacturing resources and reducing the number of job in America into regions with zero power production regulations. Some Power companies will maintain near existing pricing while others will absorb huge pricing increase destroy regional businesses.  Taxation without direct user control is taxation WITHOUT representation in my eyes.</p>
<p>Thanks for you efforts. I am trying to do mine and the legislative branch will soon realize we are here and watching.</p>
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		<title>By: PattieW, Virginia</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/29/cbos-latest-cap-and-trade-analysis/#comment-39634</link>
		<dc:creator>PattieW, Virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this report surprise anyone.  This is only the beginning, there&#039;s no telling how much it will actually end up costing.  But these elected officials that we have sent to Washington to work for us, don&#039;t have a problem turning around and slitting our throats or stabbing us in the back, when it comes to money.  They know what&#039;s best for us, when it comes to money.  They know how to protect us from global warming, when it comes to money.  If we don&#039;t get these bozo&#039;s out of there, our country will end up being a recreational area for the world&#039;s elite.  While the other countries have all the jobs, we will be busy cutting grass, sweeping the tennis courts, serving the tea, cleaning up the trash after the elitist that look down their noses at the poor Americans.  Some who can speak Indian, or Chinese may be get telemarketing jobs from technology firms in other countries.  I don&#039;t put anything past this Congress.  Let&#039;s try our best to clean house when their time is up.  It&#039;s time to let them know who is boss!!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this report surprise anyone.  This is only the beginning, there&#039;s no telling how much it will actually end up costing.  But these elected officials that we have sent to Washington to work for us, don&#039;t have a problem turning around and slitting our throats or stabbing us in the back, when it comes to money.  They know what&#039;s best for us, when it comes to money.  They know how to protect us from global warming, when it comes to money.  If we don&#039;t get these bozo&#039;s out of there, our country will end up being a recreational area for the world&#039;s elite.  While the other countries have all the jobs, we will be busy cutting grass, sweeping the tennis courts, serving the tea, cleaning up the trash after the elitist that look down their noses at the poor Americans.  Some who can speak Indian, or Chinese may be get telemarketing jobs from technology firms in other countries.  I don&#039;t put anything past this Congress.  Let&#039;s try our best to clean house when their time is up.  It&#039;s time to let them know who is boss!!!!</p>
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