Comments on: Carbon Offset Program Won’t Offset Farmers’ Lost Income from Cap and Trade http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/22/carbon-offset-program-won%e2%80%99t-offset-farmers%e2%80%99-lost-income-from-cap-and-trade/ Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:27:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Cap and Trade: A $3.6 Trillion Gas Tax | Conservative Principles Now http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/22/carbon-offset-program-won%e2%80%99t-offset-farmers%e2%80%99-lost-income-from-cap-and-trade/#comment-63124 Cap and Trade: A $3.6 Trillion Gas Tax | Conservative Principles Now Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:44:19 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=9024#comment-63124 [...] nitrous oxide emissions, or simply not grow crops. However, the revenue gained from offset revenue will pale in comparison to lost income from cap and [...] [...] nitrous oxide emissions, or simply not grow crops. However, the revenue gained from offset revenue will pale in comparison to lost income from cap and [...]

]]> By: Marv Spring Grove Mn http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/22/carbon-offset-program-won%e2%80%99t-offset-farmers%e2%80%99-lost-income-from-cap-and-trade/#comment-59657 Marv Spring Grove Mn Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:32:46 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=9024#comment-59657 We have some of the best farmers and farm land in the world in southern Minnesota, we all know this cap and trade is going to hurt farming and small towns that depend on farmers the most. So our congress man votes for cap and trade. This is what is wrong in washington. We have some of the best farmers and farm land in the world in southern Minnesota, we all know this cap and trade is going to hurt farming and small towns that depend on farmers the most. So our congress man votes for cap and trade. This is what is wrong in washington.

]]> By: Today’s Calamity: Carbon Offsets Do Not Offset the Economic Pain of Cap and Trade | Conservative Principles Now http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/22/carbon-offset-program-won%e2%80%99t-offset-farmers%e2%80%99-lost-income-from-cap-and-trade/#comment-57661 Today’s Calamity: Carbon Offsets Do Not Offset the Economic Pain of Cap and Trade | Conservative Principles Now Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:11:19 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=9024#comment-57661 [...] The reality is farmers use a lot of electricity, a lot of diesel fuel, and a lot of natural gas-derived chemicals and fertilizers to grow crops and maintain their farms. So it shouldn’t be surprising that a cap and trade program that artificially drives up the cost of energy will unfavorably affect farmers. [...] [...] The reality is farmers use a lot of electricity, a lot of diesel fuel, and a lot of natural gas-derived chemicals and fertilizers to grow crops and maintain their farms. So it shouldn’t be surprising that a cap and trade program that artificially drives up the cost of energy will unfavorably affect farmers. [...]

]]> By: Pete,Texas http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/22/carbon-offset-program-won%e2%80%99t-offset-farmers%e2%80%99-lost-income-from-cap-and-trade/#comment-53983 Pete,Texas Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:20:55 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=9024#comment-53983 What are these idiots in Washington drinking? Whatever it is, they are drinking from the same trough?They are taking control of everything!!!When they take over farming and pass cap & trade. We won't even be able to afford to eat, therefor, why worry about health care? What are these idiots in Washington drinking? Whatever it is, they are drinking from the same trough?They are taking control of everything!!!When they take over farming and pass cap & trade. We won't even be able to afford to eat, therefor, why worry about health care?

]]> By: Hock Wisconsin http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/22/carbon-offset-program-won%e2%80%99t-offset-farmers%e2%80%99-lost-income-from-cap-and-trade/#comment-53341 Hock Wisconsin Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:10:21 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=9024#comment-53341 Global warming is a myth. It cannot be scientifically proven. The planet has gone trhough many changes in its history. There have been raging fire, volcanic eruptions etc. The Congressmen who are supporting this bill are idiots. We need our farms the corporate and the small farmer. These Congressmen are destroying our way of life. We have to takle this head on. These idiots are having school teachers preach this agenda in our schools. We need to take back our senate and house of representatives by voting the idiots out of office. Unfortunately we have people like Ohara who have drank the poison punch of these idiots. A mighty country brought to its knees by little pieces of socialism introduced little by little. We need to get back to producing things in America. Get government out of the way and let us compete with China and India. When the government says trust us be afraid! When the government says I am here to help be afraid! Watch out America! Save the Farmer!! Save the factories Vote to remove Pelosi and here band of crooks! Global warming is a myth. It cannot be scientifically proven. The planet has gone trhough many changes in its history. There have been raging fire, volcanic eruptions etc.

The Congressmen who are supporting this bill are idiots. We need our farms the corporate and the small farmer.

These Congressmen are destroying our way of life. We have to takle this head on. These idiots are having school teachers preach this agenda in our schools. We need to take back our senate and house of representatives by voting the idiots out of office. Unfortunately we have people like Ohara who have drank the poison punch of these idiots.

A mighty country brought to its knees by little pieces of socialism introduced little by little. We need to get back to producing things in America. Get government out of the way and let us compete with China and India.

When the government says trust us be afraid!

When the government says I am here to help be afraid!

Watch out America!

Save the Farmer!!

Save the factories

Vote to remove Pelosi and here band of crooks!

]]> By: Milt http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/22/carbon-offset-program-won%e2%80%99t-offset-farmers%e2%80%99-lost-income-from-cap-and-trade/#comment-51505 Milt Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:11:25 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=9024#comment-51505 Global warming is nothing more than Chicken Little Science, and a big LIE. The Earth is a living, breathing, dynamic planet, and these are just Mother Earth's normal cycles of change. How can you possibly base the statistics of climate change on about 150 - 200 years of recorded data? You can't. The scientists who are jumping on the Global Warming bandwagon are doing so because if they don't support this big LIE, they won't get funding to do their research. There are no living beings to cause global warming on any of our planets besides mother earth, so explain why there is global warming on these planets? It is just another way for Al Gore and his cronies to fill their pockets with money at our hard working taxpayers expense. It is a sad truth to know that scientific research can be bought and paid for by the rich and elite to help them increase their wealth. If Al Gore and the like are so concerned about their green earth then why are they not concerned about our future kids financial growth? They are breaking their piggy bank and don't care if they do. What a future our kids have to face. What a shame! Global warming is nothing more than Chicken Little Science, and a big LIE. The Earth is a living, breathing, dynamic planet, and these are just Mother Earth's normal cycles of change. How can you possibly base the statistics of climate change on about 150 – 200 years of recorded data? You can't. The scientists who are jumping on the Global Warming bandwagon are doing so because if they don't support this big LIE, they won't get funding to do their research. There are no living beings to cause global warming on any of our planets besides mother earth, so explain why there is global warming on these planets? It is just another way for Al Gore and his cronies to fill their pockets with money at our hard working taxpayers expense. It is a sad truth to know that scientific research can be bought and paid for by the rich and elite to help them increase their wealth. If Al Gore and the like are so concerned about their green earth then why are they not concerned about our future kids financial growth? They are breaking their piggy bank and don't care if they do. What a future our kids have to face. What a shame!

]]> By: Dave Chelsea, MI http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/22/carbon-offset-program-won%e2%80%99t-offset-farmers%e2%80%99-lost-income-from-cap-and-trade/#comment-49727 Dave Chelsea, MI Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:52:21 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=9024#comment-49727 Mr. O'Hara - no one argues whether there is climate change .. always has been, always will be .. However, there remains HUGE differences in data analysis relative to mankind's impact on climate change. However, there is one inconvenient truth that continues to be buried under all the emotions and ideology that is the underpining of dialog on this topic - please access the Report contained at the hyperlink I've provided: <a href="http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data...</a> ...... it is my sincere belief that environmentalism has been elevated to a religion and has less and less to do with science with each passing debate. Mr. O'Hara – no one argues whether there is climate change .. always has been, always will be .. However, there remains HUGE differences in data analysis relative to mankind's impact on climate change. However, there is one inconvenient truth that continues to be buried under all the emotions and ideology that is the underpining of dialog on this topic – please access the Report contained at the hyperlink I've provided: http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data… …… it is my sincere belief that environmentalism has been elevated to a religion and has less and less to do with science with each passing debate.

]]> By: J Torres http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/22/carbon-offset-program-won%e2%80%99t-offset-farmers%e2%80%99-lost-income-from-cap-and-trade/#comment-38872 J Torres Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:36:42 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=9024#comment-38872 The cap and trade program will be too costly to farmers, corporations, and tax payers. I do not support or agree with this Cap & Trade act. I do not see a reason for it, and it will not improve our current situation with regard to economy. I plead for Congress and our US State Reps not to pass this bill, or you will soon be voted out. Thank you, JTorres TX The cap and trade program will be too costly to farmers, corporations, and tax payers.

I do not support or agree with this Cap & Trade act. I do not see a reason for it, and it will not improve our current situation with regard to economy.

I plead for Congress and our US State Reps not to pass this bill, or you will soon be voted out.

Thank you,

JTorres

TX

]]> By: Tucker, Michigan http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/22/carbon-offset-program-won%e2%80%99t-offset-farmers%e2%80%99-lost-income-from-cap-and-trade/#comment-38350 Tucker, Michigan Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:35:06 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=9024#comment-38350 This is going to result in a domestic food shortage making us dependent on the govt for food. They are also trying to make backyard gardens illegal. How much more do we need to see before we Constitutionally, physically remove and prosecute these destroyers of our way of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness???? This is going to result in a domestic food shortage making us dependent on the govt for food. They are also trying to make backyard gardens illegal. How much more do we need to see before we Constitutionally, physically remove and prosecute these destroyers of our way of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness????

]]> By: Michael O'Hara, http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/22/carbon-offset-program-won%e2%80%99t-offset-farmers%e2%80%99-lost-income-from-cap-and-trade/#comment-38256 Michael O'Hara, Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:50:01 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=9024#comment-38256 Folks, I hate to break it to you, but there's no free lunch. Forty years of research has been done by thousands of scientists working for hundreds of different organizations that points very strongly to a serious conclusion: the earth is warming up and we humans are a big part of the reason. This is going to have some very negative effects on agriculture as well as every other aspect of our lives. It's not some political conspiracy - the science is solid. There are critics but their explanations of why things are changing the way they are don't add up. Read up on it yourself - <a href="http://www.realclimate.org" rel="nofollow">www.realclimate.org</a> or <a href="http://www.pewclimate.org" rel="nofollow">www.pewclimate.org</a> are two places to start. Now, can we change the course of the climate now and avoid the worst effects? That's a good question with complex answers. Certainly cutting back on our production of the "greenhouse gasses" (CO2, methane, etc.) is essential. The "cap and trade" idea is what's on the table now. It's a step in the right direction but I think it's too complicated for easy implementation. I prefer a simple "carbon tax" imposed on the energy source (coal, oil, natural gas) at the source. Either way, the slightly higher prices will feed back to the users and they will decide to change their behavior accordingly (use less fuel, do things at a different time of day, car pool, etc.) In any event, it isn't something that someone else is going to pay for. We (all of us) helped cause the problem and all of us need to work together to help fix it and get through this. Folks, I hate to break it to you, but there's no free lunch.

Forty years of research has been done by thousands of scientists working for hundreds of different organizations that points very strongly to a serious conclusion: the earth is warming up and we humans are a big part of the reason. This is going to have some very negative effects on agriculture as well as every other aspect of our lives. It's not some political conspiracy – the science is solid. There are critics but their explanations of why things are changing the way they are don't add up. Read up on it yourself – http://www.realclimate.org or http://www.pewclimate.org are two places to start.

Now, can we change the course of the climate now and avoid the worst effects? That's a good question with complex answers. Certainly cutting back on our production of the "greenhouse gasses" (CO2, methane, etc.) is essential. The "cap and trade" idea is what's on the table now. It's a step in the right direction but I think it's too complicated for easy implementation. I prefer a simple "carbon tax" imposed on the energy source (coal, oil, natural gas) at the source. Either way, the slightly higher prices will feed back to the users and they will decide to change their behavior accordingly (use less fuel, do things at a different time of day, car pool, etc.)

In any event, it isn't something that someone else is going to pay for. We (all of us) helped cause the problem and all of us need to work together to help fix it and get through this.

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