Comments on: Cash for Clunkers Bill Belongs in the Junkyard http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/10/cash-for-clunkers-bill-belongs-in-the-junkyard/ Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:16:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: chris, new york http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/10/cash-for-clunkers-bill-belongs-in-the-junkyard/#comment-46555 chris, new york Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:35:34 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8265#comment-46555 we don't hate america. most of us care very much about it and that's why we are furious with the incompetance of people who propose these stupid ideas. Before anyone considers this program a success and claim it's good for the environment maybe you should review the following: 1) how much energy is consumed in the process of making a new car with all the plastics, rubber, etc? 2) how many miles will a person have to drive their new efficient car to make up for the consumption of raw materials caused by simply manufacturing that car? 3) Hybrids: can anyone say battery acid? 4) last but not least: cost....let's see, they budget 1-Billion yet in a week they need 2-Billion additional for a simple car trade in program. What was the initial proposed cost of the health care reform? Anyone want to take a guess at how far off they will be on those figures? we don't hate america. most of us care very much about it and that's why we are furious with the incompetance of people who propose these stupid ideas. Before anyone considers this program a success and claim it's good for the environment maybe you should review the following:

1) how much energy is consumed in the process of making a new car with all the plastics, rubber, etc?

2) how many miles will a person have to drive their new efficient car to make up for the consumption of raw materials caused by simply manufacturing that car?

3) Hybrids: can anyone say battery acid?

4) last but not least: cost….let's see, they budget 1-Billion yet in a week they need 2-Billion additional for a simple car trade in program. What was the initial proposed cost of the health care reform? Anyone want to take a guess at how far off they will be on those figures?

]]> By: David, Albuquerque http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/10/cash-for-clunkers-bill-belongs-in-the-junkyard/#comment-46329 David, Albuquerque Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:59:26 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8265#comment-46329 Let me see if I understand this program. If you were a good citizen concerned about the environment and bought a fuel-efficient car some years ago (above 18 mpg), you get no help in purchasing and even more efficient car. But, if you bought a gas guzzler some years ago and have been using more than your fair share of scarce oil resources you get a $4,500 bonus from the US even if you only improve your gas mileage by a few mpg. Brilliant! Who elected these dimwits. Reward good behavior, penalize bad behavior - a principle as old as mankind. Let me see if I understand this program. If you were a good citizen concerned about the environment and bought a fuel-efficient car some years ago (above 18 mpg), you get no help in purchasing and even more efficient car. But, if you bought a gas guzzler some years ago and have been using more than your fair share of scarce oil resources you get a $4,500 bonus from the US even if you only improve your gas mileage by a few mpg. Brilliant! Who elected these dimwits. Reward good behavior, penalize bad behavior – a principle as old as mankind.

]]> By: gob bluth, san diego http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/10/cash-for-clunkers-bill-belongs-in-the-junkyard/#comment-45627 gob bluth, san diego Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:02:49 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8265#comment-45627 So much misinformation to outright lies posted here. The program has been a success, and none of the 'sky is falling' points made in the article have come true. Why do you people hate america? So much misinformation to outright lies posted here. The program has been a success, and none of the 'sky is falling' points made in the article have come true. Why do you people hate america?

]]> By: Steve, Twin Cities http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/10/cash-for-clunkers-bill-belongs-in-the-junkyard/#comment-44798 Steve, Twin Cities Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:30:56 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8265#comment-44798 I am extremely upset that the govt has set a 18mpg or less limit on the program!!! I have a 1999 Ford Taurus that runs great but gets 20mpg. I would love to take advantage and upgrade to a much more fuel efficient vehicle. I don't get the idea behind this limitation. If the goal is to get more fuel efficient vehicles on the roads, should the trade-in's mpg really matter? If I go from a 20mpg car to a 40mpg car, why would the govt not want to help me help the planet? Come on... "help me, help you"!!!! Leave it up to politics to mess up a potentially good thing! I am extremely upset that the govt has set a 18mpg or less limit on the program!!! I have a 1999 Ford Taurus that runs great but gets 20mpg. I would love to take advantage and upgrade to a much more fuel efficient vehicle. I don't get the idea behind this limitation. If the goal is to get more fuel efficient vehicles on the roads, should the trade-in's mpg really matter? If I go from a 20mpg car to a 40mpg car, why would the govt not want to help me help the planet? Come on… "help me, help you"!!!! Leave it up to politics to mess up a potentially good thing!

]]> By: Moc, DC http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/10/cash-for-clunkers-bill-belongs-in-the-junkyard/#comment-44496 Moc, DC Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:35:57 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8265#comment-44496 What about those of us who have been conscientious all along? This is like penalizing us for the effort. I'm in the market for a new car, too, but I'm driving a 15 year old Civic. Thanks for the encouragement! What about those of us who have been conscientious all along? This is like penalizing us for the effort. I'm in the market for a new car, too, but I'm driving a 15 year old Civic. Thanks for the encouragement!

]]> By: Frank, Philadelphia http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/10/cash-for-clunkers-bill-belongs-in-the-junkyard/#comment-37613 Frank, Philadelphia Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:50:23 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8265#comment-37613 So, anyone in the market for a new, fuel efficient car should go to a junkyard and buy a 1984 Crown Vic (or something similar) for $500. Then the government will give you $4500 if you trade it in for something like a Honda Civic. $4000 for essentially very little effort. Then, you can sell the car (let's say a 94 Mustang) that you would have traded in (or donate it to Kars for Kids). In this scenario, the program does nothing to keep old, inefficient cars off the road. The '84 Vic wasn't on the road to begin with. The Mustang is still on the road. And now we have a new Civic on the road. So it really doesn't do anything on the "green" front. It will help stir the auto industry a little. That's a good thing, especially since we've gone all in on GM and Chrysler. ft So, anyone in the market for a new, fuel efficient car should go to a junkyard and buy a 1984 Crown Vic (or something similar) for $500. Then the government will give you $4500 if you trade it in for something like a Honda Civic.

$4000 for essentially very little effort. Then, you can sell the car (let's say a 94 Mustang) that you would have traded in (or donate it to Kars for Kids).

In this scenario, the program does nothing to keep old, inefficient cars off the road. The '84 Vic wasn't on the road to begin with. The Mustang is still on the road. And now we have a new Civic on the road. So it really doesn't do anything on the "green" front.

It will help stir the auto industry a little. That's a good thing, especially since we've gone all in on GM and Chrysler.

ft

]]> By: Joe, Michigan http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/10/cash-for-clunkers-bill-belongs-in-the-junkyard/#comment-37408 Joe, Michigan Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:14:55 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8265#comment-37408 Even if one agrees with the concept, the bill is flawed. As long as your give-up car is rated at 18 mpg or less and you purchase one at 22 mpg ( an improvement of 4 mpg), you get the money. If your give-up car is rated at 19 mpg and you purchse one rated at 25 mpg ( a 6 mpg improvement), you qualify for nothing. The program should have been soley based upon the improvement in mpg between the old and new car. Even if one agrees with the concept, the bill is flawed. As long as your give-up car is rated at 18 mpg or less and you purchase one at 22 mpg ( an improvement of 4 mpg), you get the money. If your give-up car is rated at 19 mpg and you purchse one rated at 25 mpg ( a 6 mpg improvement), you qualify for nothing. The program should have been soley based upon the improvement in mpg between the old and new car.

]]> By: Chris, Iowa http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/10/cash-for-clunkers-bill-belongs-in-the-junkyard/#comment-37200 Chris, Iowa Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:19:59 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8265#comment-37200 Obama really knows how to sell crap sandwiches. He's packaged this, along with all the rest of his "wonderful ideas full of hope and change" with such flowery rhetoric that it's selling. It won't be until it's passed...and make no mistake, it will; until people realize just how big of a mistake it was. Has anybody heard anything on how this will affect people with "antique" or "classic" cars? What about Joe Schlebotnik's '55 Olds land barge? What about car shows? Cruise nights? Can anybody here imagine NASCAR racing the little putt-putt cars Obama Motors will be cramming down our throats? Anybody got some ketchup for this crap sandwich? We're stuck with it...might as well make it tasty. Obama really knows how to sell crap sandwiches. He's packaged this, along with all the rest of his "wonderful ideas full of hope and change" with such flowery rhetoric that it's selling. It won't be until it's passed…and make no mistake, it will; until people realize just how big of a mistake it was. Has anybody heard anything on how this will affect people with "antique" or "classic" cars? What about Joe Schlebotnik's '55 Olds land barge? What about car shows? Cruise nights? Can anybody here imagine NASCAR racing the little putt-putt cars Obama Motors will be cramming down our throats?

Anybody got some ketchup for this crap sandwich? We're stuck with it…might as well make it tasty.

]]> By: mary, nj http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/10/cash-for-clunkers-bill-belongs-in-the-junkyard/#comment-36941 mary, nj Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:57:53 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8265#comment-36941 Another Great Failure from WASHINGTON. The government is suppose to be for the People, not CORPORATIONS!! It would be nice if something was REALLY done for the TAXPAYERS! Another Great Failure from WASHINGTON. The government is suppose to be for the People, not CORPORATIONS!! It would be nice if something was REALLY done for the TAXPAYERS!

]]> By: Tim,TN. http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/10/cash-for-clunkers-bill-belongs-in-the-junkyard/#comment-36774 Tim,TN. Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:02:16 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8265#comment-36774 I personly think this bill does what all others have done so far and simply put more people out of work used car lots mechinics private auto auctions and people that help them opperate.I have watched our goverment dump billions into GM and Crysler to avoid bankruptcy and what happens anyway I don t see this being a good idea ether just one more bite of U.S. freedoms. I personly think this bill does what all others have done so far and simply put more people out of work used car lots mechinics private auto auctions and people that help them opperate.I have watched our goverment dump billions into GM and Crysler to avoid bankruptcy and what happens anyway I don t see this being a good idea ether just one more bite of U.S. freedoms.

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