Comments on: “Wise Latinas” Make Better Judges: Sonia Sotomayor Meant What She Said http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/05/wise-latinas-make-better-judges-sonia-sotomayor-meant-what-she-said/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:29:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: carol b florida http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/05/wise-latinas-make-better-judges-sonia-sotomayor-meant-what-she-said/#comment-41744 carol b florida Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:40:10 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8014#comment-41744 SOMEONE NEEDS TO ASK SOTOMAYOR IF SHE agrees with ANY OR ALL of these scriptures... Psa 64:9 ALL men shall fear, And shall declare the work of God; For they shall wisely consider His doing. Psa 116:11 I said in my haste, "ALL men are liars." Act 17:30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands ALL men everywhere to repent.. Php 4:5 Let your gentleness be known to ALL men. The Lord is at hand. 1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires ALL men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to ALL men.. Luk 18:14 ... for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted." GOD SAYS ALL ARE EQUAL SOMEONE NEEDS TO ASK SOTOMAYOR IF SHE agrees with ANY OR ALL of these scriptures…

Psa 64:9 ALL men shall fear, And shall declare the work of God; For they shall wisely consider His doing.

Psa 116:11 I said in my haste, "ALL men are liars."

Act 17:30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands ALL men everywhere to repent..

Php 4:5 Let your gentleness be known to ALL men. The Lord is at hand.

1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires ALL men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to ALL men..

Luk 18:14 … for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."

GOD SAYS ALL ARE EQUAL

]]> By: Roger S., MA. http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/05/wise-latinas-make-better-judges-sonia-sotomayor-meant-what-she-said/#comment-39530 Roger S., MA. Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:18:47 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8014#comment-39530 C, thanks for the sociological take on Sotomayor, but that's also her very own, and no amount of repetition or apologia, not even in extenso, will make a falsehood true. The quality of life's experience may be a judicial asset at the district court level. Where the rare accused may truly be an underprivileged victim of the system, as well as guilty, insight into particular human nature could be helpful in differentiating a draconian penalty against a hard-core villain from the milder punishment of a defendant who is sorry for a one-time mistake he is not likely to repeat. This much I'll grant you. The rest is leftist-liberal BS. At the Supreme Court-level a judge is faced with interpreting the constitution. That means applying some very abstract legal and philosophical principles to often quite fiendishly convoluted concrete events. Having substantial impact upon the lives of countless citizens for an indeterminable time. Impacting even the lives of generations yet unconceived. Where the most complete rationality and clearness of thought will be required. Where her feelings from race, gender, national origin, or privilege have no place at all. There, a district court judge's attitudes are about as desireable and appropriate as wearing sandals to formal attire. To icono1: You missed the point. She's NOT to be a lawgiver. Do you even understand the difference ? We have plenty of lawgivers in the Congress and the Senate. She's supposed to be a judge, meaning on the Supreme Court an arbitrator of disputes at the very highest level our constitution provides. You may cite as much Burke as you like. It doesn't apply. As it is, we have too many judges who fancy themselves activists, stretching their powers of judicial review to usurp legislative functions. That, among others, would often be the sort of case she'd have to decide. Heaven help us if it's a close opinion and she's having that kind of a day! C,

thanks for the sociological take on Sotomayor, but that's also her very own, and no amount of repetition or apologia, not even in extenso, will make a falsehood true. The quality of life's experience may be a judicial asset at the district court level. Where the rare accused may truly be an underprivileged victim of the system, as well as guilty, insight into particular human nature could be helpful in differentiating a draconian penalty against a hard-core villain from the milder punishment of a defendant who is sorry for a one-time mistake he is not likely to repeat. This much I'll grant you. The rest is leftist-liberal BS. At the Supreme Court-level a judge is faced with interpreting the constitution. That means applying some very abstract legal and philosophical principles to often quite fiendishly convoluted concrete events. Having substantial impact upon the lives of countless citizens for an indeterminable time. Impacting even the lives of generations yet unconceived. Where the most complete rationality and clearness of thought will be required. Where her feelings from race, gender, national origin, or privilege have no place at all. There, a district court judge's attitudes are about as desireable and appropriate as wearing sandals to formal attire.

To icono1: You missed the point. She's NOT to be a lawgiver. Do you even understand the difference ? We have plenty of lawgivers in the Congress and the Senate. She's supposed to be a judge, meaning on the Supreme Court an arbitrator of disputes at the very highest level our constitution provides. You may cite as much Burke as you like. It doesn't apply. As it is, we have too many judges who fancy themselves activists, stretching their powers of judicial review to usurp legislative functions. That, among others, would often be the sort of case she'd have to decide. Heaven help us if it's a close opinion and she's having that kind of a day!

]]> By: Michael Crutchfield/ http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/05/wise-latinas-make-better-judges-sonia-sotomayor-meant-what-she-said/#comment-39486 Michael Crutchfield/ Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:21:17 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8014#comment-39486 Some of these comments amaze me!! Richness of experience has nothing to do with the ruling on the firefighters case. As Justice Sotomayor has already indicated, she believes that the role of the court is to set policy! WRONG The court is to interpret and apply the law. By definition those white firefighters were the victims of discrimination. Had the situation been reversed, and minorities been the only ones to pass the promotional exam they would have certainly been promoted. Had they not, and the test thrown out, how do you think this justice would have ruled. This should have been a Slam-Dunk No-Brainer. Discrimination is discrimination. I am glad to see that The Supreme Court got one right. What is discouraging is the fact that four of the nine got it wrong. Guess even a blind squirrel will occasionally find the acorn. Some of these comments amaze me!! Richness of experience has nothing to do with the ruling on the firefighters case. As Justice Sotomayor has already indicated, she believes that the role of the court is to set policy! WRONG

The court is to interpret and apply the law. By definition those white firefighters were the victims of discrimination. Had the situation been reversed, and minorities been the only ones to pass the promotional exam they would have certainly been promoted. Had they not, and the test thrown out, how do you think this justice would have ruled.

This should have been a Slam-Dunk No-Brainer. Discrimination is discrimination.

I am glad to see that The Supreme Court got one right. What is discouraging is the fact that four of the nine got it wrong. Guess even a blind squirrel will occasionally find the acorn.

]]> By: B Houston Tx http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/05/wise-latinas-make-better-judges-sonia-sotomayor-meant-what-she-said/#comment-37772 B Houston Tx Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:07:56 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8014#comment-37772 C, I could not disagree more with what you have written. Hardship, itself, does not make you a better person and it does not make you better able to interpret the Constitution. Josef Stalin, was an oppressed minority. He executed over 1 million Jews. By your comments, he MUST know more and understand more than someone in the same ultimate position. Hardship does not automatically make you wiser, just like being wealthy and White doesn't make you a better decision maker. It's not the experience, it's what you take away from it. That is what you & Sonia do not understand. C,

I could not disagree more with what you have written. Hardship, itself, does not make you a better person and it does not make you better able to interpret the Constitution. Josef Stalin, was an oppressed minority. He executed over 1 million Jews. By your comments, he MUST know more and understand more than someone in the same ultimate position. Hardship does not automatically make you wiser, just like being wealthy and White doesn't make you a better decision maker. It's not the experience, it's what you take away from it. That is what you & Sonia do not understand.

]]> By: icono1, Lexington Ky http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/05/wise-latinas-make-better-judges-sonia-sotomayor-meant-what-she-said/#comment-36845 icono1, Lexington Ky Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:58:07 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8014#comment-36845 "The true lawgiver ought to have a heart full of sensibility. He ought to love and respect his kind, and to fear himself. " Edmund Burke "The true lawgiver ought to have a heart full of sensibility. He ought to love and respect his kind, and to fear himself. "

Edmund Burke

]]> By: C, Missoula http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/05/wise-latinas-make-better-judges-sonia-sotomayor-meant-what-she-said/#comment-36784 C, Missoula Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:46:18 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8014#comment-36784 Far from racist, this statement is based on what is called, in social theory, standpoint epistemology. We can all agree that we come to a decision informed by the richness of our experiences. But groups that are historically oppressed have a different set of experiences and knowledge bases than people who are privileged. People from oppressed backgrounds know not only their own oppression, but must also learn about the lives of the privileged, as has Sotomayor. On the other hand, one of the privileges of wealth, class, gender, race privilege is the privilege of NOT knowing anything about those who are oppressed. Thus, those coming from an oppressed background MUST know more, understand more than those, in the same ultimate position, than those who have never known what it is to deal with evictions, money that runs out before the end of the month, boxes from food pantries that are designed to last three days, soup kitchens, homeless shelters, no escape from abusive relationships, emergency rooms instead of primary care physicians... If the "wise Latina" from Judge Sotomayor's class background hasn't experienced those herself, she personally knows people who have been through that life. It is highly doubtful that a "wise man" from an upper middle class, white background has been through those things, and therefore does not have the same or even comparable knowledge base. Thus one "would hope," as the judge said, that a "wise Latina" would make a better decision. Not that all Latinas similarly situated would make a better decision. We need to pay attention to the "would hope" language which actually places a greater burden on this "wise Latina" than on the "wise [upper middle class, white] man." She had BETTER do better because in a way, she has advantages that the "wise man" does not. Far from racist, this statement is based on what is called, in social theory, standpoint epistemology. We can all agree that we come to a decision informed by the richness of our experiences. But groups that are historically oppressed have a different set of experiences and knowledge bases than people who are privileged. People from oppressed backgrounds know not only their own oppression, but must also learn about the lives of the privileged, as has Sotomayor. On the other hand, one of the privileges of wealth, class, gender, race privilege is the privilege of NOT knowing anything about those who are oppressed. Thus, those coming from an oppressed background MUST know more, understand more than those, in the same ultimate position, than those who have never known what it is to deal with evictions, money that runs out before the end of the month, boxes from food pantries that are designed to last three days, soup kitchens, homeless shelters, no escape from abusive relationships, emergency rooms instead of primary care physicians… If the "wise Latina" from Judge Sotomayor's class background hasn't experienced those herself, she personally knows people who have been through that life. It is highly doubtful that a "wise man" from an upper middle class, white background has been through those things, and therefore does not have the same or even comparable knowledge base. Thus one "would hope," as the judge said, that a "wise Latina" would make a better decision. Not that all Latinas similarly situated would make a better decision. We need to pay attention to the "would hope" language which actually places a greater burden on this "wise Latina" than on the "wise [upper middle class, white] man." She had BETTER do better because in a way, she has advantages that the "wise man" does not.

]]> By: Fiore Files, Long Is http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/05/wise-latinas-make-better-judges-sonia-sotomayor-meant-what-she-said/#comment-36588 Fiore Files, Long Is Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:16:05 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8014#comment-36588 I think that Sonia SotoMayor has a deep seated racist streak that will be dagerous to the majority of Americans when she takes her place on the federal bench. She is a product of the left radicals in this country and will judge, or should we say, legislate from the bench that way. She was chosen by Obama who is in himself a radical left person. This is not the President or the Justice the American people voted for. I think that Sonia SotoMayor has a deep seated racist streak that will be dagerous to the majority of Americans when she takes her place on the federal bench. She is a product of the left radicals in this country and will judge, or should we say, legislate from the bench that way. She was chosen by Obama who is in himself a radical left person. This is not the President or the Justice the American people voted for.

]]> By: Joe White, Quinton T http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/05/wise-latinas-make-better-judges-sonia-sotomayor-meant-what-she-said/#comment-36071 Joe White, Quinton T Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:05:47 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8014#comment-36071 This "Latina" is so-o-o-o NOT qualified to sit in judgement on any issue that affects other Americans; especially with her unspoken, but very clear disregard for the Constitution. Nowhere in it does it specify "empathy" or that there has to be anything such as "affirmative action" which gave rise to her even being in law school....was she even qualified to be accepted as a student? Decent people in Congress, if there are enough, should bounce her application. This "Latina" is so-o-o-o NOT qualified to sit in judgement on any issue that affects other Americans; especially with her unspoken, but very clear disregard for the Constitution.

Nowhere in it does it specify "empathy" or that there has to be anything such as "affirmative action" which gave rise to her even being in law school….was she even qualified to be accepted as a student?

Decent people in Congress, if there are enough, should bounce her application.

]]> By: Barb -mn http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/05/wise-latinas-make-better-judges-sonia-sotomayor-meant-what-she-said/#comment-36043 Barb -mn Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:16:48 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8014#comment-36043 It's the judges' job to see all of the human race as equal and judge according to the crime. Not ANYTHING ELSE. Sonia and her actions, speak something different and therefore, should not be considered. It's the judges' job to see all of the human race as equal and judge according to the crime. Not ANYTHING ELSE. Sonia and her actions, speak something different and therefore, should not be considered.

]]> By: Richard, Spring TX http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/05/wise-latinas-make-better-judges-sonia-sotomayor-meant-what-she-said/#comment-36009 Richard, Spring TX Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:44:29 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/?p=8014#comment-36009 What do you expect from someone educated in a left wing, affirmative action environment. If you think this is bad, it's only going to get worse. What do you expect from someone educated in a left wing, affirmative action environment. If you think this is bad, it's only going to get worse.

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