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	<title>Comments on: Who&#8217;s Behind the Financial Meltdown?</title>
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		<title>By: Top Ten Reasons America Won’t Miss the 111th Congress&#160;&#124;&#160;The Conservative Papers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top Ten Reasons America Won’t Miss the 111th Congress&#160;&#124;&#160;The Conservative Papers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 07:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bailouts,” makes a TARP-like bailout system permanent, and does nothing to reform two of the biggest culprits behind the financial crisis: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: dave ,seattle , WA</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave ,seattle , WA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry my typing is so bad, I wrote this after coming off work from my third job and only a few hrs sleep</description>
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		<title>By: Anna New Jersey</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/05/07/whos-behind-the-financial-meltdown/#comment-32034</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna New Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 09:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on folks, students of history, etc....have you never seen a dictator in the making?  They prey on people in very devious ways...we had to listen to the libs trashing everything for years and there are way too many people out there who believe everything they say.  I really feel that it is about time AMERICANS stop feeling so guilty about everything. Wake up.  Pay attention to what is going on and stop voting for free ride candidates while you still have the chance to vote freely.  Who is to say that we will ever be rid of what we have in power in government today.  The way I see it, dictators don&#039;t leave. 
The traitors definitely need to be held accountable for creating a worldwide mess. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on folks, students of history, etc&#8230;.have you never seen a dictator in the making?  They prey on people in very devious ways&#8230;we had to listen to the libs trashing everything for years and there are way too many people out there who believe everything they say.  I really feel that it is about time AMERICANS stop feeling so guilty about everything. Wake up.  Pay attention to what is going on and stop voting for free ride candidates while you still have the chance to vote freely.  Who is to say that we will ever be rid of what we have in power in government today.  The way I see it, dictators don&#039;t leave.</p>
<p>The traitors definitely need to be held accountable for creating a worldwide mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken St Louis</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/05/07/whos-behind-the-financial-meltdown/#comment-31881</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken St Louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 10:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you all think things are bad now, you ain&#039;t seen nothin yet!  Obama plans on turning Am erica into another cesspoll like England or France!   He hates America, is a narcisscist  ( loves himself and nothing else)  aND IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST TRAITOR AMERICA HAS EVER SEEN.  yES THE LIKES OF bARNEY fRANK AND cHRIS dODD NEED TO BE IN JAIL,  but we  need term limits to keep this from hapopening again in the future!   REMEMBER:   IF YOU THINK ITS FREE, A SLAVE YOU&#039;LL SOON BE! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you all think things are bad now, you ain&#039;t seen nothin yet!  Obama plans on turning Am erica into another cesspoll like England or France!   He hates America, is a narcisscist  ( loves himself and nothing else)  aND IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST TRAITOR AMERICA HAS EVER SEEN.  yES THE LIKES OF bARNEY fRANK AND cHRIS dODD NEED TO BE IN JAIL,  but we  need term limits to keep this from hapopening again in the future!   REMEMBER:   IF YOU THINK ITS FREE, A SLAVE YOU&#039;LL SOON BE!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry, in the Republ</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/05/07/whos-behind-the-financial-meltdown/#comment-31858</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry, in the Republ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 16:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long story in compressed form-Barney &quot;Happy FEET&quot; Franks and his crony Dobbs are both guilty of theft, fraud, and lieing to Congressional Committees regarding the lending practices and financial &quot;footing&quot; of Freddie and Fannie. Those two along with Maxine &quot;Muddy&quot; Waters, who praised the Clinton push of bad paper through the Fred and Fannie guises,and Nancy &quot;Profit Sharing&quot; Pelosi are responsible for the lies perpetrated on the American people! All I got say is good luck trying to bring charges up on Happy Feet,because He&#039;ll dance his way down to Criminal Court, ACORN and the ACLU to file &quot;HATE&quot; crime charges and bring &quot;Uncivil&quot; suites against any and all who dare to call him out on his lies and dishonor!! Gays and lesbians love this new &quot;SHEILD&quot; of defense which in no way should be misconstrued as the &quot;Badge of HONOR&quot;! Enough said? Oh well, this probaly won&#039;t make the post anyway because it speaks of &quot;special&quot; protections that some people have because of a sexual preference when the rest of us &quot;straight&quot; shooters are held to the Laws and prosecutions of this COUNTRY!! All is well on the &quot;equality front&quot;. Right? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long story in compressed form-Barney &quot;Happy FEET&quot; Franks and his crony Dobbs are both guilty of theft, fraud, and lieing to Congressional Committees regarding the lending practices and financial &quot;footing&quot; of Freddie and Fannie. Those two along with Maxine &quot;Muddy&quot; Waters, who praised the Clinton push of bad paper through the Fred and Fannie guises,and Nancy &quot;Profit Sharing&quot; Pelosi are responsible for the lies perpetrated on the American people! All I got say is good luck trying to bring charges up on Happy Feet,because He&#039;ll dance his way down to Criminal Court, ACORN and the ACLU to file &quot;HATE&quot; crime charges and bring &quot;Uncivil&quot; suites against any and all who dare to call him out on his lies and dishonor!! Gays and lesbians love this new &quot;SHEILD&quot; of defense which in no way should be misconstrued as the &quot;Badge of HONOR&quot;! Enough said? Oh well, this probaly won&#039;t make the post anyway because it speaks of &quot;special&quot; protections that some people have because of a sexual preference when the rest of us &quot;straight&quot; shooters are held to the Laws and prosecutions of this COUNTRY!! All is well on the &quot;equality front&quot;. Right?</p>
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		<title>By: TedN, St. Petersburg</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/05/07/whos-behind-the-financial-meltdown/#comment-31774</link>
		<dc:creator>TedN, St. Petersburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 14:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comments. However, the overall understanding may be incomplete. An element seldom discussed concerns the involvement of the credit rating agencies that measure the quality of the security underlying the financial instrument. If their evaluations had been more objective, the market for the &#8220;toxic mortgage paper&#8221; would not have existed. Or, perhaps ratings were based on the collateralized asset (home) value NEVER declining and could be sold to cover the credit obligation. Therefore, banks could disregard the borrowers ability to repay as they would be bought by the GSE&#039;s or others, repackaged into traunches and sold at good profits. Everyone from end to end made significant money.  
 
To mitigate risk further, wall street implemented derivatives and credit default swaps. Extensive and complex financial models had been developed to assess risk and price it accordingly. Alan Greenspan also endorsed these products as reliable and basically foolproof. Mr. Greenspan was highly respected and no one in government was capable of (or chose not to) questioning his opinion or positions besides there not being any history to compare the viability of these systems. If the real estate market slowed or simply leveled off, these strategies would have worked. However, no one expected, including many respected economists, for real estate to not only level off but DECLINE.  
 
Models are limited to the variables and data used and obviously in this example incomplete. There was no history to develop mature models and many of the necessary variables could not be identified. Economics and human behavior is a complex business and na&#239;ve and arrogant to assume it can be modeled with reliability sufficient to be betting trillions of dollars and having widespread effects and consequences. 
 
Moreover, real estate is historically a good hedge against inflation and no other investments exists allowing for the same degree of high leverage. So, with the slowing stock market in 2001, the Federal Reserve dropping interest rates to 1% (which in turn provided financing at below market rates or &#8220;free money&#8221; in real terms) a similar problem may have evolved regardless of the CRA. Consider the majority of foreclosures exist in areas where the largest run ups occurred between 2003 &#8211; 2006 and &#8220;subprime&#8221; loans were used to finance the 20% down payment and essentially removing any risk to the buyer / mortgagor. Since they had no skin in the property purchase, they could simply walk away if its value declined to less than the financed amounts. This is obviously a very hazardous metric defying fundamental lending practices. But since Wall Street devised products to offset this risk banks would continue to loan money. It had nothing to do with the CRA buyers in that category. 
 
Finally, Wall Street knew they would not be allowed to fail considering the &quot;too big to fail&quot; mentality in addition to the symbiotic relationship that exists between Wall Street and Washington. Since the Federal Reserve can easily create money to fund any bailout (read &#8220;The Creature From Jekyll Island&#8221; by Ed Griffin for more understanding of the illusion at work) and the staggering amount of money that could be made all along the food chain, Wall Street had little reason to not move full speed ahead. 
 
It appears there is an abundance of incompetence and egregious behavior in the GSE&#8217;s and all those involved with preventing oversight. The Bush administration as early as 2002 expressed concern over the risky behavior of the GSE&#8217;s and again in the following couple of years. I believe Karl Rove reports that one last attempt to have safeguards put into place around 2003 were frustrated by a Chris Dodd leading a filibuster. Those at the GSE&#8217;s profiting the most (Franklin Raines $10 million +), et al should all be investigated and thrown in jail for their complete incompetence and egregious behavior allowing these conditions. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments. However, the overall understanding may be incomplete. An element seldom discussed concerns the involvement of the credit rating agencies that measure the quality of the security underlying the financial instrument. If their evaluations had been more objective, the market for the &ldquo;toxic mortgage paper&rdquo; would not have existed. Or, perhaps ratings were based on the collateralized asset (home) value NEVER declining and could be sold to cover the credit obligation. Therefore, banks could disregard the borrowers ability to repay as they would be bought by the GSE&#039;s or others, repackaged into traunches and sold at good profits. Everyone from end to end made significant money. </p>
<p>To mitigate risk further, wall street implemented derivatives and credit default swaps. Extensive and complex financial models had been developed to assess risk and price it accordingly. Alan Greenspan also endorsed these products as reliable and basically foolproof. Mr. Greenspan was highly respected and no one in government was capable of (or chose not to) questioning his opinion or positions besides there not being any history to compare the viability of these systems. If the real estate market slowed or simply leveled off, these strategies would have worked. However, no one expected, including many respected economists, for real estate to not only level off but DECLINE. </p>
<p>Models are limited to the variables and data used and obviously in this example incomplete. There was no history to develop mature models and many of the necessary variables could not be identified. Economics and human behavior is a complex business and na&iuml;ve and arrogant to assume it can be modeled with reliability sufficient to be betting trillions of dollars and having widespread effects and consequences.</p>
<p>Moreover, real estate is historically a good hedge against inflation and no other investments exists allowing for the same degree of high leverage. So, with the slowing stock market in 2001, the Federal Reserve dropping interest rates to 1% (which in turn provided financing at below market rates or &ldquo;free money&rdquo; in real terms) a similar problem may have evolved regardless of the CRA. Consider the majority of foreclosures exist in areas where the largest run ups occurred between 2003 &ndash; 2006 and &ldquo;subprime&rdquo; loans were used to finance the 20% down payment and essentially removing any risk to the buyer / mortgagor. Since they had no skin in the property purchase, they could simply walk away if its value declined to less than the financed amounts. This is obviously a very hazardous metric defying fundamental lending practices. But since Wall Street devised products to offset this risk banks would continue to loan money. It had nothing to do with the CRA buyers in that category.</p>
<p>Finally, Wall Street knew they would not be allowed to fail considering the &quot;too big to fail&quot; mentality in addition to the symbiotic relationship that exists between Wall Street and Washington. Since the Federal Reserve can easily create money to fund any bailout (read &ldquo;The Creature From Jekyll Island&rdquo; by Ed Griffin for more understanding of the illusion at work) and the staggering amount of money that could be made all along the food chain, Wall Street had little reason to not move full speed ahead.</p>
<p>It appears there is an abundance of incompetence and egregious behavior in the GSE&rsquo;s and all those involved with preventing oversight. The Bush administration as early as 2002 expressed concern over the risky behavior of the GSE&rsquo;s and again in the following couple of years. I believe Karl Rove reports that one last attempt to have safeguards put into place around 2003 were frustrated by a Chris Dodd leading a filibuster. Those at the GSE&rsquo;s profiting the most (Franklin Raines $10 million +), et al should all be investigated and thrown in jail for their complete incompetence and egregious behavior allowing these conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Anacortes,</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Anacortes,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 12:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela Ruff ------- thanks for your thoughts and questions......... I have been wondering the same as you ......... how and why all these crooks have gotten away with ruining our Country so easily.  I have to believe that the likes of Geo. Soros and his cronies are behind it coupled with the Saudis (maybe why O bowed to the King) 
 
You&#039;re right they need to be investigated-and hauled off to jail.......along with the ACORN operatives ........... A C O R N =  
ASSOCIATED CORRUPT OBAMA&#039;S RADICAL NUTS 
 
PLS.KEEP SOUNDING OUT ........ AND TELL EVERYONE TO QUIT WATCHING THE NAT&#039;L MEDIA&#039;S NEWS BROADCASTS ....... THEN MAYBE THEY&#039;LL BEGIN TO CHG. THEIR BIASES TO GET THE VIEWERS TO COME BACK 
 
FYI - I WILL NOT GIVE ACORN ANY CENSUS INFO. --- I UNDERSTAND OBAMA VIA RAHM EMMANUEL HAS/IS DIRECTING ACORN TO BE IN CHARGE OF COLLECTING THE CENSUS INFO.   ....... NOT IN MY LIFETIME .... BOYCOTT THE CENSUS UNTIL IT IS PROVEN TO BE AN UNBIASED OPERATION AND NOT UNDER THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH....... LOL .......... YOU GO GIRL! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela Ruff &#8212;&#8212;- thanks for your thoughts and questions&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; I have been wondering the same as you &#8230;&#8230;&#8230; how and why all these crooks have gotten away with ruining our Country so easily.  I have to believe that the likes of Geo. Soros and his cronies are behind it coupled with the Saudis (maybe why O bowed to the King)</p>
<p>You&#039;re right they need to be investigated-and hauled off to jail&#8230;&#8230;.along with the ACORN operatives &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. A C O R N = </p>
<p>ASSOCIATED CORRUPT OBAMA&#039;S RADICAL NUTS</p>
<p>PLS.KEEP SOUNDING OUT &#8230;&#8230;.. AND TELL EVERYONE TO QUIT WATCHING THE NAT&#039;L MEDIA&#039;S NEWS BROADCASTS &#8230;&#8230;. THEN MAYBE THEY&#039;LL BEGIN TO CHG. THEIR BIASES TO GET THE VIEWERS TO COME BACK</p>
<p>FYI &#8211; I WILL NOT GIVE ACORN ANY CENSUS INFO. &#8212; I UNDERSTAND OBAMA VIA RAHM EMMANUEL HAS/IS DIRECTING ACORN TO BE IN CHARGE OF COLLECTING THE CENSUS INFO.   &#8230;&#8230;. NOT IN MY LIFETIME &#8230;. BOYCOTT THE CENSUS UNTIL IT IS PROVEN TO BE AN UNBIASED OPERATION AND NOT UNDER THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH&#8230;&#8230;. LOL &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. YOU GO GIRL!</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall Hill MI.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshall Hill MI.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 10:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God did not leave us! We left him! </description>
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		<title>By: Mike, Texas</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/05/07/whos-behind-the-financial-meltdown/#comment-31729</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike, Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 10:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another thought that&#039;s been rolling around in my head for a few days; I believe there is a huge cover-up relating to the stress tests, bailouts, fannie &amp; freddie, barnie franks, geitner, the AIG thing-- I have a feeling that there is possibly in excess of a few trillion dollars in &quot;toxic assets&quot; out there, being hidden(protected from public view) just waiting to fall.  
 
Think about this; the housing boom dramatically increased home values(over inflated) as a direct result of demand. My home in FL tripled in value(not actually but that was what the market drove it to) in five years. Two years after the housing bubble burst, its now worth what it was 8 years ago, and nobody wants to buy it for that price. 
 
How many mortgages in or approaching default status(headed for foreclosure) are homeowners who are upsidedown in their mortgage?  
 
With unemployment hitting 8.9% this week, and El Presidente&#039;s less than stimulating stimulus plan, I don&#039;t believe that the real meltdown has occurred yet. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another thought that&#039;s been rolling around in my head for a few days; I believe there is a huge cover-up relating to the stress tests, bailouts, fannie &amp; freddie, barnie franks, geitner, the AIG thing&#8211; I have a feeling that there is possibly in excess of a few trillion dollars in &quot;toxic assets&quot; out there, being hidden(protected from public view) just waiting to fall. </p>
<p>Think about this; the housing boom dramatically increased home values(over inflated) as a direct result of demand. My home in FL tripled in value(not actually but that was what the market drove it to) in five years. Two years after the housing bubble burst, its now worth what it was 8 years ago, and nobody wants to buy it for that price.</p>
<p>How many mortgages in or approaching default status(headed for foreclosure) are homeowners who are upsidedown in their mortgage? </p>
<p>With unemployment hitting 8.9% this week, and El Presidente&#039;s less than stimulating stimulus plan, I don&#039;t believe that the real meltdown has occurred yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike, Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike, Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 09:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything is relative. Someone in power needs to connect the dots, and there are many. Start with an audit of the Fed, then Fannnie and Freddie, Barnie the banking queen, Geitner, and all the way down to Acorn Housing. Hmm, there&#039;s that name again... Acorn. Seems like where ever there&#039;s Acorn, there&#039;s corruption, and where ever there&#039;s corruption there&#039;s Acorn. And here&#039;s the best part... they&#039;re receiving OUR TAX dollars by way of federal grants. Sounds criminal to me, but then, that&#039;s just me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything is relative. Someone in power needs to connect the dots, and there are many. Start with an audit of the Fed, then Fannnie and Freddie, Barnie the banking queen, Geitner, and all the way down to Acorn Housing. Hmm, there&#039;s that name again&#8230; Acorn. Seems like where ever there&#039;s Acorn, there&#039;s corruption, and where ever there&#039;s corruption there&#039;s Acorn. And here&#039;s the best part&#8230; they&#039;re receiving OUR TAX dollars by way of federal grants. Sounds criminal to me, but then, that&#039;s just me.</p>
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