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    25 by 2025.

    That’s the target proposal for a federally mandated renewable portfolio standard RPS (also called renewable electricity standard RES) in which the federal government would mandate to have 25 percent of the nation’s electricity from renewable energy by 2025 – primarily wind, solar and hydro.

    During the Congressional hearings last week, Congressman G. K. Butterfield (D-NC) told Chairman Henry Waxman, “Not only is [a 25% mandate] impractical, it is impossible.”

    By creating a federal renewable portfolio standard, the government is essentially forcing costlier, less reliable energy on the people. This is particularly true for certain states, especially those in the Southeast, where the conditions are not conducive to wind power. It’s this unreliability that especially concerns Midwest ISO’s grid manager, Rob Benbow:

    My biggest fear is if you see 20 percent wind on your system, and then it comes off at a time period where you don’t have resources to replace it — that’s going to, could, result in a blackout situation.

    You can put all that wind in, but I still need to have all this other generation that I need to have available — all my coal, nuclear, all the gas — for my peak load day.”

    Indeed, even if wind is built, reliable backup from the energy sources that provide most of our electricity is necessary. Reliable electricity is a basic need and this may not be a risk people are willing to take.

    NPR’s Elizabeth Shrogan highlights some of the other problems with wind:

    Lots of other things about wind frustrate the Benbows of the world — wind blows hardest at night when electricity demand is lowest, there currently aren’t ways to store wind for later use, and you can’t count on it on hot summer days when you need it most.”

    That’s not to say doesn’t have a role to play in America’s energy profile. But the central criteria should be that it is cost-effective and able to compete without any subsidies, mandates or special tax breaks from the government.

    When happens when the government isn’t there to provide the crutch?

    One of the biggest renewable energy manufacturers in Britain announced yesterday it is to cut more than half its UK jobs – blaming the government for failing to support the sector.

    In a grave blow to the government’s ambitions to create a “green” export industry, Vestas, the world’s biggest manufacturer of wind turbines, will axe about 600 of its 1,100 UK employees, closing its factory in the Isle of Wight and cutting jobs elsewhere in the UK.”

    So far, it’s not passing the test.

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    23 Responses to Throwing Caution to the Wind on Wind Power

    1. Barb -mn says:

      Lift the bans, lift the mandates, lift the regulations, lift the taxes. If it's good enough for the private sector, we'll have a FREEDOM OF CHOICE to buy. Intervening in our independence isn't the American way. Must stop.

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    3. Al, Dayton says:

      Harness all the hot air in DC and we could power the whole world for decades!

    4. Joseph Cummins Carr says:

      America has no shortage of fossil fuels.

      Example: http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news2.13...

      What is in short supply is political integrity and the willingness to be self-sufficient.

      Example: http://www.resourceinvestor.com/pebble.asp?relid=49262

      Social managers and planners create the fires (problems) so they can look like heroes for smothering the flames, which are never totally extinguished.

      Going Green has many side-effects.

      Example: http://www.resourceinvestor.com/pebble.asp?relid=49456

    5. Charles-Odessa, Texa says:

      Let us use what we have-carbon energy, meaning oil, gas, coal. Wind and solar can help a bit but you are trying to stop an elephant of energy with a cap gun of other sources. Ethanol is another source in the back seat that is over rated. Let's encourage developement of nuclear, and carbon sources instead of piling more and more roadblocks in their way.

      Remember that Congress and the Admisistration do not produce energy-they distribute it and support uses that are of small part of our total energy consumption.

      Tax on carbon is a 100% farce as is global warming.

    6. Betty Hanicke, Kansa says:

      WHEN I WAS YOUNG, WE DID NOT HAVE ELECTRICITY ON THE FARM SO MY DAD BOUGHT A WIND CHARGER FOR OUR ELECTRICITY. BACK IN THE EARLY 30'S, WE ONLY HAD A LIGHT IN EACH ROOM, NO ELECTRIC REFRIGERATOR AND STILL THE WIND WAS NOT DEPENDABLE. WHEN ELECTRICITY CAME OUT OUR WAY, WE IMMEDIATELY SIGNED UP. WHY DO WE WANT TO PUT SO MUCH MONEY IN SOMETHING SO INDEPENDABLE WHEN WE HAVE SO MUCH OIL? THINK OF THE JOBS IT WOULD AUTOMATELY CREATE FOR YEARS TO COME. AFTER ALL, WE ARE AN OIL BASED SOCIETY AND IT HAS PROVEN VERY RELIABLE.

    7. don st joe, ar says:

      relying on windpower to make any significant contribution to the national grid, is folly. you only have to ask any recognized civil engineer. if the wind blew constantly, i would not be writing this. the fact that it doesn't creates many more problems that have to be overcome. its a bad idea and should be dropped.

    8. Frank X. Solomon, Fa says:

      The only reliable source of wind power is the hot air blowing out of the White House, NBC, CNN Hollywood and of course the US Congress.

    9. Loretta in Colorado says:

      IS it possible to set up and energy grid to use preferred energy source (wind)then switch to next preferred source (Solar) when wind is not available? I suppose that would take mega bucks.

    10. Lynn B. DeSpain says:

      People go green when they are sick! That's the expression, and now it looks like the reality if Obamalamloo gets his way.

      Water flows according to the seasons, and therefore one can somewhat predict it. Oil, Gas(Neither a fossil fuel) and Coal, are a constant and need no predicting whatsoever.

      Wind? There is no prediciting the wind on any given day, as to velocity and duration, and therefore amount. Very poor choice for Energy!

      Why are we even considering moving towards so called 'Green Energy' anyway? The hypothesis of the Green House Effect was disproven in 2005, by the majority of the World's leading scientist! So again, why are we going green?

      Maybe all those members of the Senate and the House have something personal to gainby it? Who knows for sure? However, one way to make sure is to vote each and everyone of them out of office next time they are up for election, regardless of Party affiliation!

      All of us in every State should also push very hard for "OPEN PRIMARIES." Meaning you can vote for whoever you whant in the primary and not be stuck with just your 'Party's" choice.

      Hozro

    11. Trent, ND says:

      Couldn't agree more Lynn! What's in it for them is money from the lobbyists/environmentalists and power over our independence. They want us to be dependent on them.

    12. c.Hatcher, tx. says:

      If the government wants to go to "wind energy", that is fine. It will take by it's own admission that it will take 15 years to reach a goal of 25% of the nations energy from this source, so what are we supposed to do about the other 75%? Oil, natural gas, and coal are here and are readily accessible. It only takes a matter of months to drill and create a producing well and to build pipelines is a lot quicker than building wind mills…..Seems to me, the government is "tilting at wind mills". Maybe they should not be taking their wisdom from "Don Quiote".

    13. Marshall Hill MI. says:

      Make America PAY, by B.O.!

    14. John Hilderbrand, W says:

      In North Central Oregon we have many wind turbines and here are the true facts. The wind blows mainly during the day and increases in the afternoon. We have the Columbia River over 1,000' below where we have the turbines so we can use pump storage for storage of the excess energy to use when it is needed. Whats more when combined with the dams on the Columbia they can store a lot of energy behind the dams when the wind is blowing but first we have to have it all operated together.

      The pump storage was first designed when they were going to use it in our area in conjunction with the "Pebble Springs" nuclear power plant as these plants need to be operated at close to the max as possible. Pump storage does not have to be adjacent to the wind turbines either, as it can be used on any transmission line in the same system.

      Any generation system has limits and they have been worked out on the older generation systems we just have to put our minds to it. If our forefathers gave up, as many of you have, the West would still be a wilderness and the Indians would be happy.

    15. Lee-White Tanks AZ says:

      Combine Wind Energy with Hydroelectric. Wind blows at night, use that nighttime generated power to pump the water back into the reservoir for use the following day.

      On bad/no wind nights no water is pumped. It becomes a "game" to maintain proper water levels.

      This is trivial in any event. We need to turn on the "Domestic Oil Spigot" right now. No one has said it better than Newt Gingrich: Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less.

      Cap and Trade is the ultimate goal of the ALGORIAN Scam artists. This must be defeated or we are looking down the years right into a modern "Dark Age" of proportions never imagined.

      Going backwards in the technologies of energy and transportation will result in catastrophic displacements in resources. The four horsemen will reign.

      PC is Thought Control

      LEE

    16. Barb -mn says:

      Hi, Loretta in Colorado, I was wondering the same thing and with that, how much "energy" it would take to change the energy source at will? How much "time" in between?

      This DIGITAL or HIGH DEFINITION reception they've FORCED on us is RIDICULOUS. AND USES MORE ENERGY!!!!!!!! GOVERNMENT HAS CONTROL OF THE RECEPTION AT THEIR FINGERTIPS NOW!

    17. nate says:

      T-boon Pickens is the Ross Perot of energy,a

      complete phony.If we could tax stupidity we could

      fix social security.Our country must stop this

      bunch of liberal do-gooders befor they ruin the

      country.

    18. C. Hatcher, Tx. says:

      We all realize than we are in need of alternative energy. It is meerly a question of how we get there. The government studies show it will take 15 years for us to reach a goal of 25% of our energy from wind power…So what are we to do in the meantime while we develop this, not to mention making the infrastructure viable. I don't think there are many that are totally against alternative energy. The concern is more what do we do in the meantime….We must continue to drill for oil, natural gas, and use coal in order to make it to our goals. If we continue importing oil from other countries, we will continue to be enslaved.

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    22. Longvulcan, Alabama says:

      I must agree that the traditional methods for producing energy would be the best proven least cost method to grow our energy grid. Unfortunately, like it or not, our Nation is leaning green. Wind can and will be a player in the future power grid. Travel the country and you will see these monsters everywhere. Time will only tell how much they continue to expand, and how long our Nation's love affair with green will last. I'll guess 7-10 yrs max.

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