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  • The Green Job Myth Exposed

    Late last year we called into question the credibility of a Center for American Progress “study” purporting to show how how many “green collar jobs” $100 billion in government spending on “green investments” would create. CAP did not take kindly to our criticism.

    Now four academics have taken a closer look at that CAP study as well as reports from three other organizations including the American Solar Energy Society, the U.S. Conference of Mayors, and the United Nations Environmental Programme. York College of Pennsylvania Dean Dr. William Bogart describes their findings:

    Economic analysis is not a matter of justifying policy goals by making optimistic assumptions and ignoring those realities that fail to support your objectives. Our work here clearly shows that the foundations of these “green” jobs claims do not measure up to the kind of research standards we should demand when evaluating change in direction for our economy.

    Their report goes on to identify Seven Myths of Green Jobs, including:

    1. Myth: Everyone understands what a green job is.
      Reality: No standard definition of a green job exists.
    2. Myth: Creating green jobs will boost productive employment.
      Reality: Green jobs estimates include huge numbers of clerical, bureaucratic, and administrative positions that do not produce goods and services for consumption.
    3. Myth: Green jobs forecasts are reliable.
      Reality: The green jobs studies made estimates using poor economic models based on dubious assumptions.
    4. Myth: Green jobs promote employment growth.
      Reality: By promoting more jobs instead of more productivity, the green jobs described in the literature encourage low-paying jobs in less desirable conditions. Economic growth cannot be ordered by Congress or by the United Nations. Government interference – such as restricting successful technologies in favor of speculative technologies favored by special interests – will generate stagnation.
    5. Myth: The world economy can be remade by reducing trade and relying on local production and reduced consumption without dramatically decreasing our standard of living.
      Reality: History shows that nations cannot produce everything their citizens need or desire. People and firms have talents that allow specialization that make goods and services ever more efficient and lower-cost, thereby enriching society.
    6. Myth: Government mandates are a substitute for free markets.
      Reality: Companies react more swiftly and efficiently to the demands of their customers and markets, than to cumbersome government mandates.
    7. Myth: Imposing technological progress by regulation is desirable.
      Reality: Some technologies preferred by the green jobs studies are not capable of efficiently reaching the scale necessary to meet today’s demands and could be counterproductive to environmental quality.
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    12 Responses to The Green Job Myth Exposed

    1. bob radovich no. las says:

      bi-partisanship,transparency,openess blaa blaa. words, just words from the mouth of a habitual liar. they call i t politics, i call it lies. josef stalin would rejoice in seeing this loony in his own image..let the prosecution of us who oppose him begin. we don't want to jossef to be dissapointed with him…

    2. The Green Job Myth Exposed…

      Conn Carroll
      Late last year we called into question the credibility of a Center for American Progress “study” purporting to show how how many “green collar jobs” $100 billion in government spending on “green investments…..
      Oops…forgot to say great post! Looking forward to your next one.

    3. Ron , Derry NH says:

      I was looking up the "going Green" certification in construction. There isn't a thing new involved in the literature accept the cost to become certified. Every part of going green is building the way we do now, with the exception that with going green, you will pay some organization for the proof and if you don't get certified you will be outed.

      This is a marketing scam to force training and licensing onto the public to create another cost structure to industry.

      What ever millions is being spent to go green, is a rouse to infiltrate the work force with more regulation and meaningless expensive training and certification to what is now considered common practice and knowledge.

      Can you smell the union comrades influence??

      We are seeing a complete betrayal of ethics and an infiltration of marketing scam artists to enroll Americans into drones of the state, at their own expense.

      This is surely an infiltration of communist ideas being sold as ecology, energy or stimulus; what aver label works for them. This is becoming cancerous.

      They got the name right. Going green is the government/unionizes, cashing in on civilization by creating fears and offering security from those same man made fears from your pay check to theirs. All of it disguised as needed to make the world a better place.

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    5. Gus Burlimah says:

      I can never figure out this knee-jerk, wholesale criticism of anything related to the environment by the Right. You presumably live in a nice house with trees and grass and birds. You play golf on nice green golf course and take your families on ski trips to pristine mountains with ski houses with views of forests and skies. I'm guessing you like to save money and you don't want your kids to breath bad air and chemicals. Yet you're so delighted to trash ANYTHING that might help make your comfy, tree lined neighborhoods and playgrounds cleaner and safer. Yea, there's a lot of environmentalists that like to lecture people, but then again there are a lot of evangelists who do too. They annoy us because they make us think about things we don't want to think about. But if we ignore the message because we don't like the messenger we may miss out on something really important. Mother Nature isn't a Republican or a Democrat. (unless Republicans have developed mercury proof lungs somehow.) We're all in this together. Entertain the possibility that doing right by the environment might be in your best interest too.

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    7. Sean Keller, Boston says:

      I think the main idea is to get ourselves headed in that direction. If we are concerned about what exaclty something means or how many jobs it will actually create, we're missing the point.

      Let's just head toward a green economy and it will happen before we know it. And we still might not know exactly what a "green" jobs really is


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    9. mike, london says:

      myth #1-a green job is a broad statement- like say diversity, or management, it is a wide topic- but it has specifics, generally revolving around technologies such as solar panels, hybrids etc. myth#2-consuption is not the sole factor of economics, quite frankly offering jobs will increase the flow of revenue allowing the employees to begin to get back on their feet- no matter how much is produced it is worthless if no one can afford to buy the product. the third myth is your opinion- prove that the models are unreliable. myyth#4- green jobs encourage the develoment of technologies that utilze available and replenishable resources and such positions are based around products that follow this code. as for the successful technologies mentioned, define successful.myth#5- their is a difference between reducing and eliminating. learn it.myth #6- not if companies can sell lesser products to uniformed consumers.myth#7- which the free markets will decide, because it is hard to monopolize green products.

    10. Dave, Los Angeles says:

      response to Mike from London:

      Myth 1: You say the concept of green jobs "has specifics" and then immediately use the term "generally"…your statement itself is contradictory from which the assumption can be made that your logic is also.

      Myth 2: You are correct that consumption is not the sole factor, but without it, there is no need for production nor the jobs it creates leading to even less consumption and so on. Pick up an econ textbook. A massive investment in bureaucracy at the cost of jobs creating products for which there is a demand eventually results in a debtor state which has to import everything it needs and, oh wait, we're already at that point.

      Myth 3: You don't have to prove that the models are unreliable. If the assumptions are questionable, so is the model. Faulty assumptions don't turn into good models. Read a logic textbook.

      Myth 4: You have this backwards. Green jobs, or non-green jobs for that matter, do not encourage the development of new technologies. We didn't have millions of people sitting around in factories which encouraged others to invent the computer and other technology products…the development of the products came first. The technology creates the jobs, not the other way around.

      Myth 5: There is a difference between technologies that exist and those that don't. Learn it.

      Myth 6: Amazing. You simultaneously demonstrated a lack of knowledge of capitalism, competition, free markets, government efficiency and consumer behavior all in once sentence. Kudos. Government mandate of production is notoriously inefficient, wasteful and corrupt. Read some history books, start with the USSR. The government does not create anything, much less superior products. The free market and the profit motive encourage innovation. But I somehow suspect that my use of the term "profit motive" will be offensive to you.

      Myth 7: If the government mandates production then there is no such thing as a free market. As far as it being "hard to monopolize green products" try reading a book about Archer Daniels Midland.

      But based on the totality of your comments, I'd say you don't read much except left wing blogs or have logical and informed discussion with friends who are like-minded and, therefore, neither logical nor informed.

    11. Peter Rose says:

      I've really never understood the so-called conservative hostility towards the issue of the emerging green economy. Most major corporations and smart small businesses see the value in moving in this direction. The business opportunities are enormous and given that our industrial economy is gone, what will replace it according to you enlightened conservatives? It's a business opportunity of enormous proportions! What products will the U.S. create now? "The economic advantages of the Green Economy include the macroeconomic benefits of investment in new technologies, greater productivity, improvements in the US balance of trade, and increased real disposable income across the nation. They also include the microeconomic

      benefits of lower costs of doing business and reduced household energy expenditures.These advantages are manifested in job growth, income growth, and of course, a cleaner environment."

      Are you guys just against everything but lower taxes and ….. I can't think what else you are "for".

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