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  • Lincoln’s Conservative Vision

    Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865), c1865.

    On February 12, 2009, The Heritage Foundation celebrates the bicentennial of Abraham Lincoln’s birth. Our sixteenth President was one of our history’s greatest statesmen, and continues to serve as an example of the power of conservative principles to change America for the better.

    Abraham Lincoln’s firm and unyielding opposition to slavery grew out of his dedication to the principles of our Founding Fathers, principles which have been under assault by the Left for decades. The Left seeks to reinterpret Lincoln as the father of the centralized administrative state that was actually created by early Progressives such as Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Croly, and John Dewey (among others).

    Those who actually study Lincoln’s thoughts and speeches know that, in his words, he “never had a feeling politically that did not spring from the sentiments embodied in the Declaration of Independence.” He loved and admired “the sentiments of those old-time men,” our Founding Fathers. He was dedicated to their principles – equal rights under the law, economic liberty, and a fidelity to the Constitution, our fundamental law.

    Lincoln was, in short, a statesman who was guided by the principles of our Founding, and therefore he is a model of conservative leadership today. He believed in natural rights, not the expansive definition of positive rights, without any grounding in nature, advanced by today’s Left. He believed in equality before the law, but he also noted that the Declaration of Independence “does not declare that all men are equal in their attainments or social position.” He respected and followed the text of the Constitution, rather than interpreting it as a “living” and evolving document or simply scrapping it altogether.

    He believed in economic freedom, particularly the opportunity to work for a wage. He did not think that the market economy took advantage of those who worked for wages, but rather believed that economic freedom was a ticket to upward mobility for the individual and prosperity for society. He was fond of saying that, in a country with economic freedom, those who begin “poor, as most do in the race of life, free society is such that he knows he can better his condition.” In a free society, a citizen can “look forward and hope to be a hired laborer this year and the next, work for himself afterward, and finally to hire men to work for him! That is the true system.

    Are these the words of a Progressive? Do Progressives defend the principles of natural rights, equality before the law, constitutionalism, and economic freedom? A quick examination of the news cycle suffices to demonstrate otherwise. Lincoln would be at the forefront of the fight against the encroaching power of the national government, were he with us today. We honor his memory by fighting for the same conservative principles that he worked so diligently to pass along to us.

    To mark this occasion, noted scholar Shelby Steele will give remarks at Heritage. In addition, we have compiled a list of papers, lectures, and external links – a wealth of information for anyone wanting to learn more about this great statesman:

    Heritage Papers:

    Heritage Lectures:

    Other Resources for Further Research:

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    14 Responses to Lincoln’s Conservative Vision

    1. Spiritof76, New Hamp says:

      I am no scholar but it is ridiculous to compare Lincoln to Obama. For starters, what has Obama done to make any comparison to Lincoln or for that matter, any other distinctive leaders of American society since its independence?

      Obama is a socialist. He believes in collectivism as opposed to our founding principles based on Lockean individual liberty. Obama believes in unlimited federal governmental powers and given the opportunity will try to declare himself the "El Presidente" for life. He is an anti-Constitutionalist.

      I reached for the barf bag when I saw Lincoln and Obama mentioned in the same article.

    2. Jeremy, Aberdeen says:

      If Lincoln saw America today, he would have allowed the existence of the Confederacy as a haven for conservitism.

    3. Barb -mn says:

      Well, President Obama is in total opposition of Lincoln. Lincoln FREED PEOPLE FROM SLAVERY. Obama INTRODUCES IT AND CONTINUES TO ENSUE MODERN DAY SLAVERY!

    4. Paul D. (Oakland) says:

      Lincoln's words are as inspiring today as they were in the 19th century. If democratic and republican bureaucrats were as honest as Abe, and would adhere to the principles of economic liberty, the US would be in a much better financial situation.

      The rise of B-HO makes me think that Karl Marx might have been right about capitalism. The GOP is dead with the passage of this massive spending bill, and I hope that conservatives will rally around Lincoln's guiding principles to start a new party that really represents the ideals of the our Founding Fathers.

    5. Ozzy6900, CT says:

      President Obama should read this article because if he really knew what President Lincoln was about, President Obama would probably never mention President Lincoln again. My whole feeling is that President Obama's belief of what President Lincoln was about is purely racial!

      When many Americans think of President Lincoln, they think of the freeing of the slaves (which didn't really happen under President Lincoln's Administration).

    6. Kevin Bush, Peoples says:

      Lincoln was a tyrant and a biggot. The Liberals have successfully dumbed down masses to believe the Civil War was all about slavery. It was about states rights and the freedom of commerce by the Southern States. After three years of war Lincoln declared the slaves free only in the Southern States. Republicans who perpetuate this falsehood are not much better.

    7. Ron Dodson says:

      Lincoln's shredding of the Constitution to preserve "unity" was neo-con, not con, and Lincoln's children have learned from him well.

    8. Marie Buckno says:

      Lincoln like America is a Protestant ideology which means PROTESTORS OF THE COVENANTS OF G-d! REBELLION!

      The attempts of our founding fathers to make it different resulted still IN THE SAME THING! We have kings and princes! We call them FATHER AND SON, like BUSH AND BUSH JR!

      We seek change but pick up the same old BIBLE MISSING BOOKS!

      No wonder the OLD ROMAN EMPIRE EVOVLES IN THIS END TIME LIVING! Nothing NEW UNDER THE "SON" OR SUN except man's inability to SEEK THE KINGDOM OF G-d NOT GOVERNMENT!

      REAL CHRISTIANS DO NOT FOLLOW MEN BUT CHRIST! REAL CHRISTIANS NO NOT CARRY GUNS BUT BIBLES!

      REAL CHRISTIANS BOW THEIR HEAD ON THE HOLY NAME!

      AND REAL CHRISTIANS ARE NOT PROTESTORS NOR CHANGERS OF THE WORD OF G-d EITHER!

      The Book of Revelations warns NEVER TO CHANGE THE WORD OF G-d and KING HENRY VIII AND HIS MANY FOLLOWERS STILL TODAY REBELLED AND CREATED MANMADE RELIGION!

      THE PROTESTORS CAME TO AMERICA! AND THEY DID NOT BRING WITH THEM THE FULL BIBLE EITHER!

      THE NEW WORLD! IT WAS THE NEW WORLD ORDER AT ITS BIRTH ALL RIGHT!

      FROM OUR CURRENCY AND PRESIDENTS WHICH HAVE NEVER BEEN RIGHTEOUS AND IF YOU LOOK READ GOOD YOU WILL SEE WERE ALL PROTESTANTS OR CATHOLICS PROTESTANTS LIKE JOHN KENNEDY!

      The bible is clear BY RIGHTEOUSNESS IS A NATION EXALTED and there is nothing RIGHTEOUS ABOUT THE TERRORISM OF DIVORCE!

      It began with a family division always remember! Man rebelled since Adam and Eve and even the Old Testament tells the story of repeated wars and leaders that brought nothing HOLY AND GOOD!

      Abortion was the biggest affront to our civil voting rights since we were never given a referendum choice to VOTE TO OVERTURN Roe v. Wade. IT WAS JUDICIAL TYRANNY not OUR VOTE.

      Until you fully understand the workings of it all we are destined to repeat it over and over again.

      THE PRESIDENT PICKS A JUDICIAL SYSTEM THAT ASSURES HE STAYS IN POWER SINCE ONLY THE JUDICIARY CAN DECIDE TO TAKE HIM OUT OF OFFICE IN THE END!

      Our checks and balances are not used today as SEPARATENESS OF POWER would mean no POLITICAL PARTIES since it is those two parties which continue to influence it all!

      DONKEYS AND ELEPHANTS CANNOT RUN NATIONS! ONLY ZOOS!

      A nation divided falls and hence the entire REBELLION WE LIVE UNDER SIMPLY ENHANCES THE FALL!

      In the time of Christ the Roman Empire ruled and man began to say DEMOCRACY was the answer. But history will show NO DEMOCRACY in the entire world lasted from Rome to modern day ISRAEL and all the attempts at man to rule by government have and will continue to fail!

      Men repeat because they are BIBLE DUMB! They use the same lazy ways since it is easier by far and quicker for sure to RULE BY BRAWN AND BUCKS THAN BRAINS!

      G-d instructs HIS FOLLOWERS TO "STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED UNTO G-d, A WORKER RIGHTLY ABLE TO DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH!" THAT MEANS BIBLE STUDY!

      "My people perish from LACK OF KNOWLEDGE!" Israel perishes today since political answers are sought not spiritual ones.

      THE MODERN DAY BIBLE HATRED AND THE LAWS KEEPING CHRISTIANS FROM LEADING ARE SIMPLY A REPEAT OF THE OLD TESTAMENT WAYS STILL!

      NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN OR "SON"EXCEPT DENIAL OF "SON"!

      We NEVER TRUTH OUR LEADERSHIP SINCE WE HAVE FOUND IN THE PAST HISTORY OF MAN TO QUESTION MUCH! MAN FAILS US! BUT INSTEAD OF SEEKING THE HIGH ROAD TO PEACE AND THE "SON" WE SIMPLY GIVE IN!

      WE COMPROMISE! TOLERATE! AND THE LATEST NEGOTIATE!

      ALL BAD ATTEMPTS TO RELATE!

      SINCE G-d WANTS LISTENING NOT REBELLION!

      HE WANTS RIGHTEOUSNESS NOT OUR LAWS MANMADE!

      MANDMADE LAW IS TRUE FASCISM!

      NO FAULT DIVORCE WAS FASCISM AND SINCE 1970 NEW JERSEY (New Jewry) has ruled by LAW AGAINST FAMILY LIFE!

      REBELLION!

      WAKE UP AMERICA AS THE PROPAGANDA ON THE MEDIA AND TV TELL YOU WHO YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR AND THAT IS NOT FREEDOM OF CHOICE BUT DECISION TO PICK FROM WHAT IS ONLY OFFERED TO YOU!

      THEY ADVERTISE THE CAMPAIGN MORE THAN THE PLATFORM'S DETAILS!

      TAKE THE SHORT ROAD AND THE QUICK ROAD BUT LET'S GET ON WITH THE GAME!

      AND WHEN THE GAME IS WRONG! SUDDEN CHANGE UNDEFINED!

      INSANITY RULES WHERE MAN FAILS TO SEE THE NEED FOR G-D AND HIS WORD!

      READ JEREMIAH WELL AS IT WAS ALL DONE BEFORE!

      THE CURE IS STILL THE SAME ANSWER AS THEN "THE WORD OF G-d IN THE HANDS OF MAN" AND THAT IS THE "POWER" THE CHURCHS HAVE NOT PREACHED TO US! INSTEAD THEY JOINED IN TO WAVE A FLAG OF MAN!

      "STEP OUT FROM AMONGST IT" BABYLON MUST FALL!

      BE YE SANCTIFIED AND SET APART!

      CHRISTIANS FOUND IN AMERICA THROUGH THE AGES THEY COULD NEVER AGREE WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF MAN!

      AS THEY NOW STAND BEFORE A FLAG IN A NATION THAT ENDED IN ABOUT 1942 SINCE WWII DID NOT BRING US EITHER ECONOMIC PROSPERITY NOR PEACE NOR PROTECTION OF OUR "GNP" GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT EITHER!

      The 70's brought the odd and even gas lines and the cars bought were JAPANESE!

      We somehow fail to realize OUR GOVERNMENT FAILED TO PROTECT OUR GNP! AND WITHOUT A GNP WE ENDED!

      Reagan saw that answer was now "SERVICES' we could sell like our banking and our other good common sense approach to business" but that ended as soon as they all caught on and we found Europe and its many shops could deal far better than we!

      So today they seek to use Europe's ideas more and we lose our national identity!

      The government under Reagan challenged the CHURCH for the answers to the mess only to find the CHURCH WAS BIBLE DUMB and repeated the world instead!

      POWER LOST!

      WE NEED AN ENERGY BILL ALL RIGHT THAT BEGINS FIRST WITH THE ONLY ENERGY THAT WILL BRING THE ANSWERS TO US TOTALLY! THE BIBLE!

      When was the last time America or any nation picked its leadership BASED ON WHAT BIBLE THEY KNEW BEFORE THEY TOOK OFFICE!???

      IF SUCH WAS THE CASE WORLD PEACE WOULD BE REIGNING NOW!

      REMEMBER THE END TIME WORD OF G-d THE GOVERNMENTS WOULD ALL FAIL!

      GEE DID G-D KNOW BETTER THAN WE ALL ALONG?!

      FUNNY THE VERY G-D WE NEVER SEEM TO PROTECT AT ALL IS THE ONLY ONE WE NEED TO WIN!

      JESUS CHRIST! NOT BUDHA! NOT ALLAH! NOT DEMOCRACY! NOT THE BILL OF RIGHTS! NOT "SOCIALISM"!

      CHRIST AND HIS WORD!

      ISRAEL MEANS "HOUSE OF G-D" AND IS NOT A NATION! A GROUP OF JEWS! NOR A POLTIICAL GOVERNMENT! IT IS ALL BELIEVERS IN G-D ALONE AND HIS ONLY SON!

      NAME CHANGING LIKE NAMES OF STATES AND NATIONS IS THE OLD ROMAN EMPIRE DIVIDE AND CONQUER MENTALITY!

      FROM MANY! ONE!

      LIBERTY DOES NOT COME SINCE SOONER OR LATER A SINGLE PRESIDENT MUST SPEAK FOR US!

      BUT IS THAT MAN G-D'S CHOICE AT ALL?? BUT MAN'S?

      IS IT ANY WONDER WE ARE ALL FED UP WITH THE PARTIES, THE CHOICES AND THE ANSWERS!

      WE ARE SEEKING LIKE IN THE DAYS OF JEREMIAH! ONLY THE CURE!

      "the awareness that we are all human beings in life together' is lost in both WAR and POLITICS". Albert Schweitzer on receiving the Nobel Peace prize in 1958!

      When Einstein was asked about the need for religion, he pondered a moment and then said he never had the time to study religion in his question for knowledge instead! NEVER TOOK THE TIME FOR G-d is what he was confessing and in the great questions raised by all he discovered and the POWER unleashed in his hands he admitted HIS POWER WAS SO VIOLENT EVEN HE COULD NOT ENDORSE ITS USE ANY LONGER FOR MUCH GOOD!

      POWER FROM ON HIGH WAS NEEDED TO DIRECT HIS PATH!

      WISE MEN STILL SEEK HIM!

      The wise men of the bible were leaders in their world too and they sought answers but found KNOWLEDGE of all things came ONLY FROM G-d in the first place and so they SOUGHT G-d!

      G-d as promised ANSWERED MAN in the form of an infant child born! A MAN THAT WOULD CHANGE THE WORLD FOREVER AND ITS WAYS AND THINKING!

      Why is it MAN today wants to change that MESSAGE?

      NOTHING NEW UNDER THE "SON" OR SUN as you can see!

      Rebellion and Protesting seem inherent in men.

      Christ appeared first after his death to a woman? Did you ever stop to think WOMEN SEEM TO LISTEN MORE!

      Perhaps G-d allowed Queen Esther and His Holy Mother Mary so much adoration and positions of greatness to give the WORLD A MESSAGE STILL!

      In Israel today and in many nations we see Women attempting to bring answers and men seem to cringe to think they just might know something so they test them.

      Women in many nations want the same role as men but G-d tells us clearly WE ARE DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT!

      The bible women did not follow the roles of men at all but told a different story completely. THEIR MESSAGE WAS "OBEY G-d" first!

      Abortion is the entire ballgame folks!

      NO END TO ABORTION! NO OBEDIENCE!

      AND NO END TO DISPLEASING G-d EITHER!

      THE WOMEN OF THE WORLD WANT ABORTION TO REMAIN LEGALIZED AND LIKE THE FIRST EVE STAND IN REBELLION!

      NO WONDER MEN HESITATE TO WANT FEMALE LEADERSHIP?

      SEEKING WOMEN WHO ARE HOLY AND RIGHTEOUS IS NOT THE WAYS OF THE WORLD STILL!

      IF SHE FOLLOWS AND LOVES HIS MOTHER THEN SHE ALONE MUST BE THE ONE!

      FOR TO FOLLOW MARY WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO BE MISLED! SHE WAS THE GREATEST APOSTLE TO THE END! AFTER HIS DEATH SHE REMAINED WITH THE REST! SHE WAS THE FIRST CHRISTIAN RAPTURED!

      THE CHURCHES TODAY WANT MALE DOMINATION! THE GOVERNMENTS OF THE WORLD AS WELL!

      THE EQUALITY THEY SEEK IS NOT BIBLICAL!

      EQUALITY IS SPELT OUT IN PLAIN LANGUAGE FOR ALL IN EPHESIANS!

      Marriage does not mean a person is doing the right thing for many a divorced person disagrees with their spouse on divorce which is why it never works!

      G-d warns us NOT TO JUDGE BY THE OUTWARD APPEARANCE! NEVER JUDGE A MEN OR WOMAN UNTIL YOU WALKED A MILE IN THEIR MOCASSINS!

      Many a woman SAVED and following Christ these days has a spouse doing the opposite since MEN HAVE NOT REPENTED AND AS IN THE DAYS OF MOSES "DIVORCE" IS ALLOWED!

      Divorce is the REBELLION most hated by G-d! It is the one thing written about even in the bible G-d HATES!

      But the governments of man and women today could not be lead if divorce was not allowed to exist.

      Poverty is caused when divorce is not stopped and AMERICA A PROTESTANT NATION HAS NOT MET G-d's RIGHTEOUSNESS BY PROTECTING FAMILY LIFE SINCE IT BEGAN!

      Washington was not a Catholic but on his death even he questioned the wars and rebellion and Kings and governments! He sought the counsel finally of a GOOD PRIEST!

      Jefferson when drafting the Bill of Rights wanted English ways put aside and when wording his document repeatedly went back to rewrite what he found he was simply repeating instead. In his quest for the TRUTH and WORDS and WISDOM he NEEDED he called on G-d and found the CATHOLIC BIBLE as one source for his thinking.

      I wonder how many rebelled only to find their way back home in the end?

      Not to a Church whose present leadership allows annulments which are contrary to the real faith but to the FAITH AND WORD OF G-d itself.

      Much as Thomas Moore did in the times of Becket and King Henry VIII!

      How many barristers today in this nation do you find like THOMAS MOORE refusing to DIVORCE!

      I met one in my lifetime and I am 60 and he is since deceased, none since then!

      They went to college a/k/a Communist Institutions to learn the ways of law and man and grow up strong and educated until PSYCHOLOGY HAD THEM QUESTION! FINALLY REBELLION WAS SOWN INSTEAD OF COMMON SENSE AND LOGIC LEFT!

      CONFUSION FOUND INSTEAD OF ABSOLUTES! UNDOING JUST WHAT THEY BEGAN WITH ALL ALONG!

      Man seeks answers and when finding one SAYS "AHA" I FINALLY HAVE IT ALL! Only to speak with his peers to find another thought prevails, perhaps to be considered.

      THE UNIQUENESS OF US ALL MAKES US GREAT WHEN WE SEE NO ONE PERSON KNOWS IT ALL AND HENCE WE SEEK FOR THE KNOWLEDGE WE NEED!

      UNTIL WE DIE WE SEEK!

      Along the path we cross the need to go back to where we first began and reassess our path and journey to FINALLY COME TO SOME SOUND CONCLUSIONS AND ACCOUNTABILITY!

      In the youth of our lives we believe. In the young adult time we ASK AND REBEL AND QUESTION AND WANT CHANGE!

      In the wisdom of old age we reflect and realize we are dumber still than we thought we were and there is something we might have missed.

      That path all men and women take! Some stand still and some find the need to move far and wide but we all take the same path and end up the same way. From dust to dust!

      If along that path we find the gifts of G-d and the tools to be used, we find the things we missed and now can employ good judgment which is called by all WISDOM!

      But sometimes we impulsively rush right by and until we learn to slow down we seldom do.

      Youth runs to find the CURE!

      Old ages wishes it could RUN STILL MORE!

      But on the benches of the old men and women and sages we hear much more than we do on life's more advanced STAGES!

      Seldom is a blackberry found nor a microphone or podium when upon that person we finally hear much more than the world talks out loud daily about!

      It seems the more talk there is the more we fail to grasp the meaning and is it any wonder BABYLON fell as they WERE ALL TALKING AND NOT A ONE WAS LISTENING!

      Rhetoric and political language leaves us all baffled today by the terms and meanings! A secret from us their accounting systems even and YET PLAIN LANGUAGE WAS OUR LEGAL GOAL NOT ALL THAT LONG AGO!

      KEEP IT SHORT! MAKE IT CONSCISE AND GET TO THE DARN POINT!

      CUT IT OFF AND CONTROL AND PREDESTINE THE PEOPLE AND ANSWERS AND TIMING ALLOWED!

      We seem to vaccilate between wanting to hear and wanting it silenced?

      Never satisified much with either!

      We are what we speak! And the gifts of the vernacular in ELOQUENCE is sought after by all those in public office.

      BUT TODAY TALK IS NOT CHEAP! WE PAY WELL OVER $70.00 a month for the medium at a time we have no money left for food and clothing!

      Our phone bills outweight our car payments and our cell phone and gadgetry more than our shoes and teeth.

      Yes, we are all in the same game called life! Priorities seem to be always the same MEN AND THE NEW TOYS AND WOMEN AND HOUSING AND FOOD FIRST INSTEAD!

      Men earn the bucks and women keep the budgets from falling apart at the seams!

      Men talk, women want to be heard still and THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH TIME TO GET IT ALL OUT FINALLY AND SOLUTIONS BEGUN!

      THE ART OF LISTENING!

      THE TV DOES NOT LISTEN ALTHOUGH FROM THE MODERN DAY SHOE THROWING YOU WISH IT DID!

      THE CONGRESS HAS TIME CONSTRAINTS AND SESSIONS!

      THE PRESIDENT HAS COMMITMENTS AND IS BUSY!

      SO WHERE DOES IT ALL END!?

      WHEN DO WE FINALLY STOP SCREAMING AND NOT BE HEARD?

      I personally think what this world needs more of is debating before election but I do MEAN REAL DEBATING NOT SHORT TIME ATTEMPTS!

      I think the KAROKE would make more sense than CONGRESSIONAL CSPAN DIALOGUE!

      Our founding fathers had not tv and dancing was the fashion BIG DANCES!

      Holding hands was a time not just for handshakes but for supporting others even as they CROSSED THE STREET!

      TIMES AND MANNERS CHANGED AND OUR MODERN WORLD LEAVES US WONDERING DID WE PROGRESS OR REGRESS WITH MORE SPEED!???

      TAKE TIME TO SMELL THE ROSES BUT MAKE SURE YOU PAYMENT IS DONE ON TIME OR ELSE!

      NO EXCUSES AND NO PROVISION FOR MAKING UP!

      AMERICA BEGAN WITH ITS CREDIT IDEOLOGY TO UNDO THE CASH!

      TODAY THEY CALL FOR JOBS AND MORE CREDIT AND SOLUTIONS MEANWHILE AS THEY TALK THEY HAVE THE JOBS AND THE PAY NOT US!

      WE NEED SIMPLY THE CASH PLEASE NOT THE CONTINUED STALLING AND RHETORIC!

      JUST HAND OVER THE DARN CASH! GIVE IT BACK FOR AFTERALL BY NOW WE OWN THE NATION TWICEFOLD IN TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!

      WE PAY AND THEY SERVE!

      WE CALL IT LIBERTY BUT IN REALITY AS YOU CAN SEE A PUBLIC SERVANT IS HARDLY THAT AT ALL BUT MORE A KING GIVING ORDERS TO THOSE UNABLE TO MOVE!

      THAT IS AMERICA! BABYLON AN THEN SOME! ROMAN GOVERNMENT FALLING APART AND WOMEN STILL SAYING TO THE MEN "PEACE AND THE HOUSING WE NEED FIRST" NOT THE TOYS!

      COME ON BOYS STOP THE GAMES AND THE LANGUAGE AND GET THE JOB DONE!

      IF YOU WANT IT DONE RIGHT GET A WOMAN!

      THEY CANNOT EVEN DRESS AND TIE THEIR OWN TIES ON THAT TV MIRROR YOU ARE LOOKING AT!

      BEHIND EVERY GOOD MAN IS A WOMAN!

      AND BEHIND BOTH OF THEM STILL IS THE SAME FORTRESS REAL "A MOTHER"!

      SO WHY NOT CHOOSE MOTHERHOOD AS THE CRITERIA FOR LEADING US FOR REAL!?

      G-D DID AND CHRIST DID!

      He came first to Mary Magdalene not to SAINT PETER!

      He gave his entire church over to HIS MOTHER!

      He spoke of the need for Jewish men to hear the message!

      AND SO HIS MESSIAH WAS BIRTHED IN POVERTY TO A YOUNG MAIDEN OF THEIR OWN!

      I find it so very strange today JEWISH MEN DENY CATHOLICISM SINCE JESUS WAS BORN OF A JEWISH MAIDEN AND THAT IS THE CATHOLIC MESSAGE!

      THEY ALL CAME FROM JEWISH MOTHERS AND YET WHO DO THEY LISTEN TO? EACH OTHER! NOT EVEN THEIR OWN MOTHER!

      FIND THE FIRST MAN LISTENING TO HIS OWN MOTHER! AND YOU HAVE GOT A WINNER FOR SURE!

      LADY LIBERTY CALLS OUT! GIVE ME YOUR TIRED AND THOSE YOU DID NOT WANT AND COME TO THESE SHORES FOR A NEW WORLD!

      YET ON ARRIVAL THE SIGNS HELD OUT "NO IRISH NEED APPLY" AND IN THE STREETS OF OUR TOWNS BACK THEN BEGAN THE END!

      ENGLISH RULE STILL!

      The first attempt at Irish Cathlic leadership was met with DEATH! A NATION SINCE THEN MOURNING FOR HOPE!

      A NEW KENNEDY WE TRY TO BRING ABOUT NOW! BUT WE STILL FAIL TO SEE THE REASONS HE EVEN FAILED!

      A THREAT TO GOVERNMENT OF MAN!

      WE SAW A CAMELOT TO ONE DAY BE CONFRONTED WITH JUST ANOTHER MAN!

      THE REALITY IS THERE ARE NO CAMELOTS! NO PRINCE IN SHING ARMOUR GOING TO RESCUE SUCH A HUGE MASS!

      IT WAS EASY WHEN WE WERE FEWER AND MUCH HARDER NOW WITH THE MASSES!

      SMALLER WAS BETTER!

      SO KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU READ THIS FOR ME ONE THING PLEASE!

      BY 1960 MY IRISH CATHOLIC FATHER LOST IT ALL AND KENNEDY DID NOT COME! A YOUNGER MAN UNTIL 1963!

      It was OVER ALREADY MY FRIEND AND THE OLD IRISH MAN REPLACED EVEN BY A NEW ONE!

      IT HAS ALL BEEN DONE BEFORE AND YOUTH HAS NEVER MET THE NEED!

      BABYLON!

      NOW IS "NOT THE TIME" FOR YOUTH TO REIGN BUT FOR ALL OF US TO HEAR THE STORIES OF THE PAST IN REALITY FIRST!

      LESSONS LEARNED AND WHY IT FAILED FIRST NOT REPEATED INSANITY AND HOPES BUILT ON A FOUNDATION OF DREAMS NOT REALITY!

      HOPES BUILT NOT ON THE ROCK OF LIFE AND TESTED WAYS BUT ON CHANGE NEVER WORKED IN THE WORLD YET!

      G-D WANTS STABILITY NOT CHANGE!

      AND THE MESSAGE IS LEARN FROM THE PAST AND DO NOT REPEAT THE SAME DUMB MISTAKES!

      G-d forgive AMERICA! FIRST FOR ITS REBELLION AND FOR THE INABILITY OF OUR LEADERSHIP TO NEVER LISTEN FIRST TO THE REAL AND ONLY G-D AND HIS WORD!

      AND FOR DESTROYING STILL WHAT G-D HIMSELF CHOOSE FIRST "MOTHERHOOD"!

      UNTIL ABORTION IS PRONOUNCED ENDED THE ILLUSION OF LIBERTY IS JUST THAT AN ILLUSION!

      AND I THINK PERHAPS WOMAN WILL HAVE TO BE THE ONLY ONES TO DO SO SINCE IT IS A WOMAN'S DECISION!

      WE DO NOT NEED AN EVE! WE NEED A "MARY"!

      CABISH?

    9. ETK, Peoples Republi says:

      ** laughing ** KBush, of the Peoples Republic of Michigan, is so right on about the true Cause of the War Between the States. But, back to business at hand, President B. Hussein Obama is NO President Lincoln. I'm sorry for laughing, Mr. Bush, I'm not sure whether I'm loving the ' Peoples Republic of Michigan ' or, the remarks about Lincoln. Um, you are so correct.

      But we must address this new Administration that is 'Hell-Bent' on Socializing this Wonderful Democracy of ours. The now-president of the USA met, after telling us he was intent on bi-partisanship, only with Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and all the other Democrats (with the taxpayers footing alot of the bill), after which he publically met on TV to bully and cram his beliefs down the throats of Americans who instantly turned their sets to Cable shows. This now-president from Chicago is systematically setting out to destroy any semblance of our Democracy. I would say, God Help America, but unfortunately, he and his party told God to leave, and guess what? He did.

      Who will save this Country, my beloved America, now?

    10. Kathleen, Magnolia T says:

      Exactly right, Kevin. Lincoln may have been a good man in some ways, but not for his waging a war over states' rights and over-taxation. We suffer from that war today over the very issues.

      How much better would it have been if the war had gone the other way. Lincoln may have quoted the founding fathers but he sure didn't have a great command of the Constitution.

      Abolition was used as a punishment of the south, but it was dying naturally in the south anyway. How much better would things have been if that would have been allowed to occur. We certainly wouldn't have all of these 'victims' now. And we might have a good president instead.

    11. Hozro1, Oregon says:

      "Those who forge their guns into plows will plow for those who did not", Thomas Jefferson.

      Our Forefathers, the signers of the Constitution, knew from history that neither Tyrany, Democracy, nor Socialism, nor Oligracy, last. That is why they created this Nation as a Republic, with Laws limiting Government.

      As ben Franklin told a woman, when asked, "What have you given us?", he answered, "A Republic madam, as long as you can hold it."

      These great and studied men learned that Greece failed because of Democracy, where the Majority ruled. They learned that the Romans held a Republic for many centuries, with laws limiting Government, and allowing citizens to work and profit their own lands, until the later centuries when crooked Politicians discovered the profit of creating new Laws, and reinterpreting old Laws to take away form some and give to others, for favors and Political gain.

      This created a whole new sytem of need from people who no longer had food, clothing, housing and the Government supplied these through higher taxes! Creating more Laws and more decisions though majority vote, in short, a Democracy.

      Later came the series of Ceacars, and the fall of the Roman Empire!

      It seems that we have been on this same path for quite a long time now. Nothing really changes, just new actors, much like Shakespere wrote about struting their hour upon the stage to be heard no more.

      Even our "Green Air" policies are not new! In 1938 it was a very popular Politcal movement to stop all the air polution that was creating the "Green House Effect" and causing the planet to heat up and/or go into another ice age. That was Adolf Hitler!

      All I know is that the Decloration of Independence and the Constitution of the Untited States of America does not mention the word, "Democracy" once in its entirety! So what have we done to ourselves people?

      Do we really want to fall into oblivion and history, or do we wish to live on as the Republic that our founders meant us to be?

      Hozro

    12. Hozro1, Oregon says:

      "Those who forge their guns into plows will plow for those who did not," Thomas Jefferson.

      Our Forefathers, the signers of the Constitution, knew from history that neither Tyranny, Democracy, nor Socialism, nor Oligarcy, last. That is why they created this Nation as a Republic, with Laws limiting Government.

      As Ben Franklin told a woman, when asked, "What have you given us?", he answered, "A Republic madam, as long as you can hold it."

      These great and studied men learned that Greece failed because of Democracy, where the Majority ruled. They learned that the Romans held a Republic for many centuries, with laws limiting Government, and allowing citizens to work and profit their own lands, and endevors until the later centuries when crooked Politicians discovered the profit of creating new Laws, and re-interpreting old Laws to take away form some and give to others, for favors and Political gain.

      This created a whole new sytem of need from people who no longer had food, clothing, housing and the Government supplied these through higher taxes! Creating more Laws and more decisions though majority vote, in short, a Democracy.

      Later came the series of Ceasars, and the fall of the Roman Empire!

      It seems that we, oursevles, have been on this same path for quite a long time now. Nothing really changes, just new actors, much like Shakespere wrote about struting their hour upon the stage to be heard no more.

      Even our "Green Air" policies are not new! In 1938 there was a very popular Politcal movement to stop all the air polution that was creating the "Green House Effect" and causing the planet to heat up and/or go into another ice age. That was headed by Adolf Hitler and his group!

      All I know is that the Decloration of Independence and the Constitution of the Untited States of America does not mention the word, "Democracy" one time in its entirety! So what have we done to ourselves people? Would Lincoln have moved the Cencus from the Commerce part of government to the exclusive power of the White House and one individual? I think not because that is what Ceasar would have demanded, not the Leader of a Republic.

      Do we really want to fall into oblivion and history, or do we wish to live on as the Republic that our founders meant us to be?

      Hozro

    13. Sadie, Arizona says:

      This is in response to the first comment for this article, which irately declared that there is absolutely no connection between Obama and Lincoln.

      Though I personally did not vote for Obama (which I'm assuming from your upset tone, you did not either) he undeniably has various similarities with Lincoln. Both had an egregious lacking of experience before being elected president; Lincoln served four terms in the Illinois state legislature and one year in the House of Representatives while Obama was a Senator for one term. Additionally, both had underprivileged childhoods and were raised by a single parent. As far as policies go, well, Obama simply has not been in office long enough for an analysis. Nonetheless, I find it extremely ignorant to blindly call him a "socialist" and declare that a barf bag is a necessity when an article contains the names Obama and Lincoln together. Lincoln was an extremely open-minded man, and I believe he would be proud to see how far our country has come in electing the first African-American president.

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