you: You talk out of both sides of your mouth, me: if you were intelligent enough to open your mind you would know your insult only holds bearing to those of narrow minds.

Maybe spending money on problems is not the answer! Maybe just letting things work themselves out is the answer.

Nobody in Government cared about Commercial fisherman just to save some Sea Lions.

Nobody in Government cared about Loggers and Mill workers jsut to save a Spotted Owl.

Now it seems like nobody in Government cares that everyone in America is going to have to suffer more "hidden" taxes, because of the so called "Green House" situation, when all the rest of the world that we do business with just keeps on poluting like there's no tomorrow!

Maybe we just ought to say no to whatever the Government says, and every election, vote for the "New Guy" who isn't a Democrat or a Republican.

Hozro

me: Ya know LVKen7, I can’t understand your problem?

you:*** I read the HF Email FIRST.

THEY provide the BEST info I get anplace,

but IT IS THEIR SPIN ON IT THAT BOTHERS ME.

me: They're taking the spin out, my friend. Looking at every angle.

Here is a president elect wording in various ways and subliminally, the dismissal of FREEDOM.

you: *** One of the things I don’t understand about Cs is

THEY SELDOM USE EXAMPLES. me: Another definition of freedom is to live free of the government outside of protection from our enemies and unlawful people. safety and health where the public is concerned. etc. oops.

you: Thomas Soule writes – but I never understand what he means

because he give NO EXAMPLES. me: A country of Freedom ensures people have the opportunities to live free. To be responsible for themselves and the children they bring into the world and under civil law which is the only law for the equally common good of all mankind. For people to know instinctively to adapt to hardships, etc. oops.

you: GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU MEAN.

me: Conservatives stand for freedom. Freedom requires personal and individual responsibilities. As human beings it is our duty to carry out our responsibilities. I hope the above explained.

you: *** But, I see THAT as Cx

DON’T CARE FOR THE SICK,

me: Don't you think we get sick?

you: WORKERS,

me: Don't you think we work?

you: UNIONS,

me: Have potentiality to bankrupt companies and teachers unions are just corrupt.

you: TEACHERS,

me: We love teachers that teach our children the facts and show no bias of what they may be teaching and respect the opinions of our children and use their intelligence to see more money is not teaching our children any better nor is it building higher standards as obama wants to mandate college and preschool due to the failure of elementary school as it turns into social day. And which is taking choices away. Maybe I want to bond and teach my own child from birth to kindergarten. Maybe I've had children in public schools and see the indoctrination put on them. Maybe I don't appreciate the governments will to teach my child from 3 to 22. If mandated, I don't have a choice. The government is taking it away.

You, not sure what?: SCHOOLD,

THE LESS….

me: Are you less of a human to not want to carry out your own existence on your own? You need your hand held by GOVERNMENT?

you:*** No.

The WORSE THING REAGAN EVER SAID WAS

THE GOV’T IS THE PROBLEM.

The Govt is NOT the problem.

me: The government is the problem. There is too much. They took immigrants for granted and caused them to be dependent on government instead of encouraging independence. Welfare recipients, American born think that is all there is to live for.

me: Your so selfish you want to force the hand of government to hold all others hands?

you: *** No,

but The Cs – YOUR SIDE

is against choice

and letting people choose.

me: How wrong you could be. The only choice we're against is the choice to be responsible or irresponsible with no reprimand to the latter but reprimand to the innocent and that being the responsible taxpayers. When I turned 18, I didn't have a choice. College was at my expense one not within my means. I went to work. A job with health insurance that I paid for.

you: You talk out of both sides of your mouth, me:- I don't understand this personal attack?

not sure? Less govt = you: but WE HAVE A BIGGER GOVT NOW

THAN ANY TIME IN OUR HISTORY- me: not our fault. We've been against it all along…

you: Less Taxes = but we are deeper in debt than EVER. me: Blame that on a variety of government intervention and unintelligent decisions. And selfishness. Here's an example: Acorn is also a part of the housing for the poor and is tax funded to at least some point if not entirely. Some of YOUR side accepted 100,000 of dollars to aid in their own self images by taking from the poor.

me:And in your regard to ACORN, yea, why would acorn employees fraudulently register anyone they can?

you: *** THAT is what I would like to know.

me: If it makes no difference? It obviously does make a difference or the acorn employees wouldn’t be doing the opposite of what their job requires…causing needless wastes of time and money for everyone else.

you: *** OK,

but if someone is registered

and DOESN’T VOTE.

What difference does it make? me: What if they do vote? What if the people that register and the person that registered them meet up at the polling booth and the one who registered them was an election judge? Nothing has been far fetched to this point.

me: You think democrats are going to be truthful and expose the benefit of their ACORN employees lack of WORK ethics?

you: *** HUH?

you quoting me:“benefit of their ACORN employees lack of WORK ethics?” me: Did that sound funny? Well? Isn't Acorn's job to help those that can't help themselves to register to vote? And aren't they run by the majority of the democratic party?

you: ALL they ever do is ASK FOR $$$$.

I just ignore them. me: That's the best thing I've read from you! I don't like Acorn. They are intentionally corrupt. They intimidate and bribe people for their registration. I'd rather have an honest vote of the people who hear what needs to be heard and that of what is not. You know, like freedom being taken away from those that know what it is and those that will never know.

you: Try that. me: I don't donate knowingly. But I do pay taxes.

You: I posted this at -
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgwzbkk9_720c8b6s3g… me: Is that a threat? Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

One more thing conservatives do not like is waste. You sure do like to waste alot of space. I toned it down a bit. Maybe you should also.

The world view that had Chicago in flames during the 1968 Democratic Convention has succeeded in taking over the party of the left. They were called SDS in those days. Now they run ACORN, a multi-million dollar conglomerate involved in voter fraud in more than a dozen states; and they are college professors, like Bill Ayres, who helped groom and finance a far left socialist for the Presidency. They have the reins of control of the Federal Government and of many state governments.

Our media is in the hands of so called 'journalists' who view themselves as social engineers. They are also the product of the Liberal Fascism infecting our universities.

In a discussion with me the other day a young liberal wondered aloud what the framers of our Constitution and Bill of Rights would think of their government today. Without hesitation I said they would say it is past time for another revolution. Big government, greed, and cronyism have our country in a financial spin this computer generation has never seen. The seeds of Secular Humanism, planted and nurtured way back in the 1930's are now bearing fruit.

Obama will make a show of seeking bipartisanship for his Bigger Government, bigger spending plans and will do everything he can to appear to be The One he thinks he is. His brand of government is just Marxist-lite.

FROM – LVKen7

*** Before I start,

please notice,

I include my Email address in what I write

HOPING READERS WILL CONTACT ME FOR DISCUSSION.

SINCE I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU

I WILL REPLY HERE AND PUT IT ON THE HF HATE GDOC.

Ya know LVKen7, I can’t understand your problem?

*** I read the HF Email FIRST.

THEY provide the BEST info I get anplace,

but IT IS THEIR SPIN ON IT THAT BOTHERS ME.

Here is a president elect wording in various ways and subliminally, the dismissal of FREEDOM.

*** One of the things I don't understand about Cs is

THEY SELDOM USE EXAMPLES.

Thomas Soule writes – but I never understand what he means

because he give NO EXAMPLES.

GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU MEAN.

Conservatives stand for freedom. Freedom requires personal and individual responsibilities. As human beings it is our duty to carry out our responsibilities.

*** But, I see THAT as Cx

DON'T CARE FOR THE SICK,

WORKERS,

UNIONS,

TEACHERS,

SCHOOLD,

THE LESS….

Are you less of a human to not want to carry out your own existence on your own? You need your hand held by GOVERNMENT?

*** No.

The WORSE THING REAGAN EVER SAID WAS

THE GOV'T IS THE PROBLEM.

The Govt is NOT the problem.

Your so selfish you want to force the hand of government to hold all others hands?

*** No,

but The Cs – YOUR SIDE

is against choice

and letting people choose.

You talk out of both sides of your mouth,

Less govt = but WE HAVE A BIGGER GOVT NOW

THAN ANY TIME IN OUR HISTORY

Less Taxes = but we are deeper in debt than EVER.

And in your regard to ACORN, yea, why would acorn employees fraudulently register anyone they can?

*** THAT is what I would like to know.

If it makes no difference? It obviously does make a difference or the acorn employees wouldn’t be doing the opposite of what their job requires…causing needless wastes of time and money for everyone else.

*** OK,

but if someone is registered

and DOESN'T VOTE.

What difference does it make?

You think democrats are going to be truthful and expose the benefit of their ACORN employees lack of WORK ethics?

*** HUH?

"benefit of their ACORN employees lack of WORK ethics?"

I subscribe to ACORN Site

ALL they ever do is ASK FOR $$$$.

I just ignore them.

Try that.

I posted this at –
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgwzbkk9_720c8b6s3g…

Send me an email.

KJ