Comments on: Morning Bell: Some Early Victories in Stimulus Debate http://blog.heritage.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/ Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:53:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Hozro1, Oregon http://blog.heritage.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12837 Hozro1, Oregon Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:54:51 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12837 You want a great stimulus? Stop taxing everything for a year! Print your money and give it to yourselves! Hozro You want a great stimulus? Stop taxing everything for a year! Print your money and give it to yourselves!

Hozro

]]> By: david richfield http://blog.heritage.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12243 david richfield Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:56:02 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12243 Dear Bell, a trillion with no debate is your issue? That will be spent on American infrastructure? Schools? Roads? Bridges? Broadband? Jobs? Green energy? Saving the world economy? ...there will be oversight. I insist. (and, some money will be wasted. oh well... How many billlions were "lost" in Iraq?...) .. and your complaints about that? Complaints? What, sir, about 12 billion a week charged to THE AMERICAN PEOPLE for six years to occupy a foreign nation that did not attack us because WE THE PEOPLE were lied to about the "intelligence" to invade them to try to steal their oil for the multinational oil conglomerates? For which WE THE PEOPLE are not compensated? With NO OVERSIGHT. Socialize the risks and the costs, and privatize the profits. ...complaints? (That's not a good investment in national security. You have lost that argument, over and over. ) = $312 billion. BUT, According to the Iraq Study group Report, paid for by your tax dollars, and written by the same grungy old oil mongers that were trying to make the oil GRAB happen during the eighties, if we stopped fighting and occupying for oil in 2006, the total cost would have been 3 trillion to the US taxpayer. are you bitching about this? The no oversight 350 Billion dollar bailout of wall street, with all of the bells and whistles, is, without stopping it, going to become eight trillion. Are you hollering about this? I guess not. None of any of the Bush spending 1) addresses the debt (5 trillion in 2000 to 10+trillion in 2008)= republican politics as usual 2)helps us regain our international ethical stature 3)creates any meaningful jobs (want fries with that?) 4) addresses the idiot international fiscal policies of w. 5)creates any incentive for America companies to locate or relocate in US 6) SOLVES THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY CRISIS, CAUSED BY THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WALL BETWEEN BANKS AND CASINOS. I blame Republicans. I blame their lobbyists. I blame Greenspan. I blame Reagan. And I blame Clinton. (there are 150 trillion dollars in crap derivatives out there. Unfortunately, there are only 57 trillion "dollars" on the planet in actual currency.) ... do the math. I blame a philosophy that there is no role for government. You guys have been drinking this koolaid since reagan. ...It's a failure. (And I voted for reagan in 1980) You have bigger fish to fry, than arguing with obama about saving capitalism from ITSELF. This is what FDR did. Now we are going to live that again, if sanity prevails. Dear Bell,

a trillion with no debate is your issue?

That will be spent on American infrastructure?

Schools?

Roads?

Bridges?

Broadband?

Jobs?

Green energy?

Saving the world economy?

…there will be oversight.

I insist.

(and, some money will be wasted. oh well…

How many billlions were "lost" in Iraq?…)

.. and your complaints about that?

Complaints?

What, sir, about

12 billion a week charged to THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

for six years to occupy a foreign nation that did not attack us because WE THE PEOPLE were lied to about the "intelligence" to invade them to try to steal their oil for the multinational oil conglomerates?

For which WE THE PEOPLE are not compensated?

With NO OVERSIGHT.

Socialize the risks and the costs, and privatize the profits.

…complaints?

(That's not a good investment in national security.

You have lost that argument, over and over. )

= $312 billion.

BUT, According to the Iraq Study group Report, paid for by your tax dollars, and written by the same grungy old oil mongers that were trying to make the oil GRAB happen during the eighties, if we stopped fighting and occupying for oil in 2006, the total cost would have been 3 trillion to the US taxpayer.

are you bitching about this?

The no oversight 350 Billion dollar bailout of wall street, with all of the bells and whistles, is, without stopping it, going to become eight trillion.

Are you hollering about this?

I guess not.

None of any of the Bush spending

1) addresses the debt (5 trillion in 2000 to

10+trillion in 2008)=

republican politics as usual

2)helps us regain our international ethical stature

3)creates any meaningful jobs (want fries with that?)

4) addresses the idiot international fiscal policies of w.

5)creates any incentive for America companies to locate or relocate in US

6) SOLVES THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY CRISIS, CAUSED BY THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WALL BETWEEN BANKS AND CASINOS.

I blame Republicans.

I blame their lobbyists.

I blame Greenspan.

I blame Reagan.

And I blame Clinton.

(there are 150 trillion dollars in crap derivatives out there.

Unfortunately, there are only 57 trillion "dollars" on the planet in actual currency.)

… do the math.

I blame a philosophy that there is no role for government.

You guys have been drinking this koolaid since reagan.

…It's a failure.

(And I voted for reagan in 1980)

You have bigger fish to fry, than arguing with obama about saving capitalism from ITSELF.

This is what FDR did.

Now we are going to live that again, if sanity prevails.

]]> By: ella quinn kinston, n.c. http://blog.heritage.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12216 ella quinn kinston, n.c. Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:08:09 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12216 I agree Mutt Romney should be our president.He would be wonderful.He is very smart. Ella Quinn I agree Mutt Romney should be our president.He would be wonderful.He is very smart. Ella Quinn

]]> By: Doris Morgan, Oklahoma City http://blog.heritage.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12207 Doris Morgan, Oklahoma City Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:53:34 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12207 Amazing what a country will do when a big majority is this upset; but there's NO WAY that this can continue the way it has the last two Presidential terms. All we can do now is pay close attention....and hope we learn something new and better. I've never liked the term "change" before; but maybe an "old dog can learn some new tricks". I would've preferred "honest and earnest"..... Amazing what a country will do when a big majority is this upset; but there’s NO WAY that this can continue the way it has the last two Presidential terms. All we can do now is pay close attention….and hope we learn something new and better.

I’ve never liked the term “change” before; but maybe an “old dog can learn some new tricks”.
I would’ve preferred “honest and earnest”…..

]]> By: Danielle McDonald, T http://blog.heritage.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12223 Danielle McDonald, T Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:57:21 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12223 I don't see any problem with a chief performance officer or a chief technology officer. A chief performance officer could hold agencies accountable for performance. A chief technology officer could help unify systems and help promote a seamless government. Agencies could exchange information like IRS with Department of Immigration when illegal usage of social security numbers occurs. It's all in the details, of course, but the concept might work. I don't see any problem with a chief performance officer or a chief technology officer. A chief performance officer could hold agencies accountable for performance. A chief technology officer could help unify systems and help promote a seamless government. Agencies could exchange information like IRS with Department of Immigration when illegal usage of social security numbers occurs. It's all in the details, of course, but the concept might work.

]]> By: mike hutchings texas http://blog.heritage.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12220 mike hutchings texas Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:46:02 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12220 if i think therfore i am. if i think i am wise i am. if i think so much i must be thoughtful. if i am wise and thoughtful i cant be a democrat; I WILL GO ALONG WITH THAT if i think therfore i am.

if i think i am wise i am.

if i think so much i must be thoughtful.

if i am wise and thoughtful i cant be a democrat;

I WILL GO ALONG WITH THAT

]]> By: Darrel Baird, Kent OH http://blog.heritage.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12195 Darrel Baird, Kent OH Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:57:17 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12195 The bottom line is that no or very little money from ANY govnt. program can be allowed to reach tne consumer.If the money is spent inflation will make the added currency worthless.If the money is used to reduce credit the loan institutuions will need more money to make up for the lost fees and intrest. There is no good side of federalism. This idea's first task was for banks to buy defaulted state obligations at 10 cents on the dollar, get the federal government to assume the states obligations,and then taxpayers honour the obligations ( bonds and pensions) at face value. You have just been introduced to Federalism .It doesn't matter if the year is 1789 or 2009, the end result is the same. The Banks become the government, the government becomes the bank and NO ONE responsible . The bottom line is that no or very little money from ANY govnt. program can be allowed to reach tne consumer.If the money is spent inflation will make the added currency worthless.If the money is used to reduce credit the loan institutuions will
need more money to make up for the lost fees and intrest.
There is no good side of federalism. This idea’s first task was for banks to buy defaulted state obligations at 10 cents on the dollar, get the federal government to assume the states obligations,and then taxpayers honour the obligations ( bonds and pensions) at face value.
You have just been introduced to Federalism .It doesn’t matter if the year is 1789 or 2009, the end result is the same. The Banks become the government, the government becomes the bank and NO ONE responsible .

]]> By: E Paul Lian, Scottsdale, AZ http://blog.heritage.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12191 E Paul Lian, Scottsdale, AZ Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:55:19 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12191 I need some professional help...I know I need to accept things as they are....but....Mitt Romney should be sworn in on the 20th as our 44th President. We picked the wrong person. Mitt knows the car business, how government works, health care, taxes, national defense, and most importantly, has the common sense approach our country desparetly needs in this hour of consternation. I'm already tired of this new guy....I'm going to have a long, tough four years ahead of me. I need some professional help…I know I need to accept things as they are….but….Mitt Romney should be sworn in on the 20th as our 44th President. We picked the wrong person. Mitt knows the car business, how government works, health care, taxes, national defense, and most importantly, has the common sense approach our country desparetly needs in this hour of consternation. I’m already tired of this new guy….I’m going to have a long, tough four years ahead of me.

]]> By: LVKen7@Gmail.com - Las Vegas http://blog.heritage.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12186 LVKen7@Gmail.com - Las Vegas Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:15:51 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12186 It is OK, but WHY does the HF and Cs take credit for IMPROVEMENTS IN OBAMA'S PLANS. The REAL place to SEE, with you own eyes, Obama's plans is Change.gov. It is OK,
but WHY does the HF and Cs
take credit for IMPROVEMENTS IN OBAMA’S PLANS.

The REAL place to SEE,
with you own eyes,
Obama’s plans is
Change.gov.

]]> By: Eileen, Alabama http://blog.heritage.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12210 Eileen, Alabama Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:08:03 +0000 http://www.foundry.org/2009/01/05/morning-bell-some-early-victories-in-stimulus-debate/#comment-12210 daniel writes: for the country to prosper we need a thoughtful and wise people, that is our job. >>. So I guess that means Congress is out because most politicians are neither thoughtful nor wise and they only know how to prosper personally and financially, not for our Country. If it’s our job to find these thoughtful and wise people then I guess we are collectively a bunch of failures. More government equals more jobs means there are only more idiots at the helm. When are we ever going to learn? Congress, politics and politicians generally look for trouble and find it even if it's not there, misdiagnosed it and provide an inadequate or ineffectual remedy. daniel writes:

for the country to prosper we need a thoughtful and wise people, that is our job. >>.

So I guess that means Congress is out because most politicians are neither thoughtful nor wise and they only know how to prosper personally and financially, not for our Country. If it’s our job to find these thoughtful and wise people then I guess we are collectively a bunch of failures.

More government equals more jobs means there are only more idiots at the helm. When are we ever going to learn? Congress, politics and politicians generally look for trouble and find it even if it's not there, misdiagnosed it and provide an inadequate or ineffectual remedy.

]]>